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February Wrasslin' |OT| WrassleGAF. In 2016.

Sephzilla

Member
I hate the current WWE announce tables. When they don't give way, they look like they hurt a ton when you slam into them, when they do give way it doesn't feel like there's as much impact since those tables are built to break apart.
 

Verendus

Banned
Why won't the WWE give us that Roman and insist on giving us goofy "pretend to be Cena" Roman, Verendus?
I think WWE forgot there can be different kinds of faces. It's been like this for almost a decade now. At least, that's how it feels like.

Everyone defaults to goofy cornball when they reach the top. It's the template.
 

Ithil

Member
Why won't the WWE give us that Roman and insist on giving us goofy "pretend to be Cena" Roman, Verendus?

Because they want him to be the top guy, and have an extremely specific idea what "top guy" entails. This includes talking a lot, which he can't do at all, and being very family friendly Cena-esque, which doesn't work for him at all.

So in a manner of speaking, the same very specific narrowminded thinking that got them to peg him as the next top guy is the same thing that's causing them to book him in such a way that he never will be. They want "Cena 2". They forget none of the top guys have been a copy of the previous top guy, and those attempts that were failed.
 
Do you want the crowd to shit on Roman? Because that's how you get the crowd to shit on Roman.
Via schadenfreude, yes, actually, but that's beside the point. It would indeed be the ultimate heat.
I think they're savvy enough not to do that. Brie-Charlotte-Flair-Steph-Triple H? Sure. Reigns? No.
You "think" that? Because I know you know better. But in all seriousness, I do agree that even the WWE is wise enough to not do it. It'd be the biggest possible insult going out. Funny thing is that if Cena came out I'd find it sincere. Triple H coming out for some hugs would be nice.

The rest of RAW is going to be terrible because no one is going to care about any of it, no matter how hard anyone else tries.
 

Verendus

Banned
Reigns needs the old school Batista booking. Keep your words short and sweet, and just go and murder people out there every week. It worked then, and it even worked before then for others like Goldberg. It'll work now too. It always works.

Look at Barack. He's basically getting that, and it's worked really well. Fans went from being indifferent to genuinely liking him. Granted, he's only there about 12 times a year, but it's similar in principle.

You can't be an underdog with no emotions or reactions and a badass at the same time. Pick one. In this case, the latter fits Reigns.
 

Jamie OD

Member
Mike Quackenbush is a guest trainer in the WWE performance centre today. So if everybody in NXT all of a sudden does the Chikara Special on the next show you know where to point fingers.
 

Toki767

Member
Reigns needs the old school Batista booking. Keep your words short and sweet, and just go and murder people out there every week. It worked then, and it even worked before then for others like Goldberg. It'll work now too. It always works.

Look at Barack. He's basically getting that, and it's worked really well. Fans went from being indifferent to genuinely liking him. Granted, he's only there about 12 times a year, but it's similar in principle.

You can't be an underdog with no emotions or reactions and a badass at the same time. Pick one. In this case, the latter fits Reigns.

When were fans indifferent to Brock?
 

DMczaf

Member
Why do they still have huge ass monitors that can really fuck up someone's back if they are not removed from the table?
 

Verendus

Banned
When were fans indifferent to Brock?
Pretty much all the time after his first match with Cena. He basically became irrelevant until Joan Cena was squashed by him two years later. Crowds didn't react, and were mostly either silent or giving him that light interest reserved for the jobbers on the roster.

It was all about his opponents. It's a huge difference compared to now when it's pretty much all about him.
 

Ithil

Member
Mike Quackenbush is a guest trainer in the WWE performance centre today. So if everybody in NXT all of a sudden does the Chikara Special on the next show you know where to point fingers.

"Now you're going to want to pick a durable brand of trash bag to cut up for your tights, here's the brands I've found to be best..."
 
Pretty much all the time after his first two match with Cena. He basically became irrelevant until Joan Cena was squashed by him. Crowds didn't react, and were mostly either silent or giving him that light interest reserved for the jobbers on the roster.

It was all about his opponents. It's a huge difference compared to now when it's pretty much all about him.

Wow I don't remember it that way at all.
 

Kaladin

Member
Mike Quackenbush is a guest trainer in the WWE performance centre today. So if everybody in NXT all of a sudden does the Chikara Special on the next show you know where to point fingers.

That's a name I'm surprised to see there. Carniest promoter that ever carnied if you ask me.
 

I Wanna Be The Guy

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I still maintain the opinion that Brock's best match of his modern run was the one against Punk in 2013. That match also had the best buildup of any other modern Brock match. Punk vs Brock was hype.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Wow I don't remember it that way at all.

He came back and F5'd Cena, people were hot for Brock, then he lost to Cena at Extreme Rules. After that he was kayfabe breaking HHH's arm at minor PPVs and then losing to him at Mania. Outside of one really good match with Punk, his return run was really unremarkable until he squashed Cena at Summerslam.
 
So how do you think they handle the Bryan stuff later?

Save it for the end of the show? Get it done at the start and just do a regular RAW for the rest of the show?

No matter what the crowd is going to be chanting his name for most of the show.
 

DMczaf

Member
I still maintain the opinion that Brock's best match of his modern run was the one against Punk in 2013. That match also had the best buildup of any other modern Brock match. Punk vs Brock was hype.

Punk/Taker and Punk/Brock were legit great.

Punk heeled the fuck out for that Taker storyline and STILL got half the crowd to chant his name against Taker in a WM match.
 

Striker

Member
The Cena-Brock first match back for him was a good one. More believable than the one against Punk. The ending was terrible, but you expected that from them since he left them like he did and he went out and succeeded without them. The first Triple H match was alright though the last two were terrible. It came down to the whole thing with Triple H-Taker of while he lost, he wanted to still keep himself on their level. "You won the battle, but I won the war!" ??? Fuck off.
 

Anth0ny

Member
So how do you think they handle the Bryan stuff later?

Save it for the end of the show? Get it done at the start and just do a regular RAW for the rest of the show?

No matter what the crowd is going to be chanting his name for most of the show.

I think right at the beginning in an attempt to shut the crowd up.

Bryan chants will be strong the entire night. He's fucking retiring in his home town. Even if Bryan wasn't on the show in any capacity there still would have been chants.
 
Mike Quackenbush is a guest trainer in the WWE performance centre today. So if everybody in NXT all of a sudden does the Chikara Special on the next show you know where to point fingers.

La Sombra is sitting there, "Hello darkness my old friend" playing in his head.
 

Scottify

Member
I'm going to chime in and just say that I'll miss Bryan wrestling. Not only would I pay attention to his matches because of his amazing skills, but he also came across as human and not a caricature. That said, I still laugh a lot at the old Kane skits they did.
 
John Cena had a horseshoe up his ass in that Extreme Rules match and two years later Brock pulled it out and beat him over the head with it
 
So how do you think they handle the Bryan stuff later?

Save it for the end of the show? Get it done at the start and just do a regular RAW for the rest of the show?

No matter what the crowd is going to be chanting his name for most of the show.
Probably near the beginning, like they did with Michaels and Edge. Doubt he's getting the Flair treatment with the whole locker room coming out.
 

Kaladin

Member
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I Wanna Be The Guy

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Did people actually watch that Brock Cena match at Extreme Rules? Cena may have won, but Brock looked like a fucking monster and was booked almost exactly the same as the rematch where Brock beat Cena for the title. Cena has a comeback at the end with use of a chain and steel steps. For the rest of the match Brock was murdering him. It wasn't until Brock fought HHH that Brock looked like a human, and even then he broke his arm and won. Lost at Mania but got the win back immediately. Brock looked very strong even early in modern run.
 

somedevil

Member
Probably near the beginning, like they did with Michaels and Edge. Doubt he's getting the Flair treatment with the whole locker room coming out.

The show was 2 hours back then and they did the edge retirement at 10pm. The show is now 3 hours so I don't know when they are going to do it now.
 

UberTag

Member
The show was 2 hours back then and they did the edge retirement at 10pm. The show is now 3 hours so I don't know when they are going to do it now.
Edge's retirement announcement wasn't in his hometown, either. It was in Bridgeport, Connecticut.

Not sure they can wait here because they announced the news in advance.
 
Did people actually watch that Brock Cena match at Extreme Rules? Cena may have won, but Brock looked like a fucking monster and was booked almost exactly the same as the rematch where Brock beat Cena for the title. Cena has a comeback at the end with use of a chain and steel steps. For the rest of the match Brock was murdering him. It wasn't until Brock fought HHH that Brock looked like a human, and even then he broke his arm and won. Lost at Mania but got the win back immediately. Brock looked very strong even early in modern run.

The booking was so similar to Mir/Lesnar I and II that Dana probably had grounds to sue
 
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-...zealand-pro-wrestling-live-show-in-five-years

WWE announce they're finally coming back and doing a show live in my country (New Zealand) for the first time in 5 years...

...on the same day my favorite wrestler retires.

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I'm really quite upset over the Daniel Bryan stuff. I always held out hope he'd at least be HBK and come back randomly years later for another awesome run. Really just have such an empty feeling.

:( It is not fair at all.
 
I don't really think this is a work at all, but it's interesting that wwe still have Bryan scheduled in for signing appearances towards the end of Feb.
 
Did people actually watch that Brock Cena match at Extreme Rules? Cena may have won, but Brock looked like a fucking monster and was booked almost exactly the same as the rematch where Brock beat Cena for the title. Cena has a comeback at the end with use of a chain and steel steps. For the rest of the match Brock was murdering him. It wasn't until Brock fought HHH that Brock looked like a human, and even then he broke his arm and won. Lost at Mania but got the win back immediately. Brock looked very strong even early in modern run.

He also looked pretty fallible facing CM Punk.
 
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