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Fed Court Orders NC to redraw districts, Hold New General Assembly Elections

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Fox Mulder

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All he needs is one.

No.

It does sucks that he gets to appoint any at all, given the tremendous picks he's already made for his cabinet. Still, any pick will just replace Scalia's awful ass.

He'll need two or three to do what people think is possible on day one. The court is also big on precedent.
 
No.

It does sucks that he gets to appoint any at all, given the tremendous picks he's already made for his cabinet. Still, any pick will just replace Scalia's awful ass.

He'll need two or three to do what people think is possible on day one. The court is also big on precedent.

The next justice to leave (which given their ages is very likely to be a liberal leaning one) is going to be when things really start to get bad. Ideologically, the court we're going to see until then will very much be like the court we already had the past few years.
 

Blader

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No.

It does sucks that he gets to appoint any at all, given the tremendous picks he's already made for his cabinet. Still, any pick will just replace Scalia's awful ass.

He'll need two or three to do what people think is possible on day one. The court is also big on precedent.

Thomas and Alito are conservative ideologues to the bone, as was Scalia and as will Trump's replacement will surely be. No amount of precedent is going to keep them from overturning Roe v. Wade or gay marriage or whatever else if given the chance. Roberts is almost as bad but seems to take a longer, more institutional view of the court.
 
For those bringing up "Trump's SCOTUS" you do know right now he only has one pick and the pick will be replacing a very conservative justice. Ideologically SCOTUS doesn't really change.....yet.

So the 5-4 VRA split? I wouldn't be hopeful. (Or condescending for that matter)
 
All he needs is one.

No, he needs two. Right now he's just replacing Scalia, which changes nothing. The Supreme Court will be roughly as it was before, with Kennedy as the swing vote (which largely means a slight conservative lean, but progressive on some issues such as LGBT rights).

He's only changing the makeup of the court if Ginsburg, Breyer or Kennedy die or retire during his Presidency. Replacing Scalia with a young justice is obviously damaging in the long run (since Trump's pick can serve for the next 40 years, most likely), but it doesn't change anything in the short term.
 

Dishwalla

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Yeah the thing with SCOTUS was we were all banking on Hillary to replace at least two justices with liberal picks, one for Scalia's empty seat and one for Ginsberg who was hinting at retiring after Hillary took office. For now the SCOTUS won't change much with Trump as president.

We don't know Ginsberg's intentions now that Trump has been elected but I don't think she wants to give up her seat to a Trump pick.
 
Yeah the thing with SCOTUS was we were all banking on Hillary to replace at least two justices with liberal picks, one for Scalia's empty seat and one for Ginsberg who was hinting at retiring after Hillary took office. For now the SCOTUS won't change much with Trump as president.

We don't know Ginsberg's intentions now that Trump has been elected but I don't think she wants to give up her seat to a Trump pick.

The problem is the Ginsburg is 83 and has had health problems in the past. It may not be her choice whether she serves on the court for the next 4 years.
 

JoeBoy101

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Quick update: For those worried about the Supreme Courts ruling towards this, the court will be hearing arguments about the gerrymandering case... tomorrow.

The court will hear oral arguments Monday in Harris v. McCrory, the case that sparked a do-over congressional primary in June. It is one of several federal cases that has rewritten the rules for North Carolina elections over the past year and could help set the rules for how legislatures here and in other states divvy voters into districts for years to come.

If the eight justices deadlock, the lower court's ruling will stand.

This is not the case the recent court ruling came from, but it is a very key one as it held the ruling that race was used to draw congressional districts.
 
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