sixteen-bit
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If SFV has cross platform play does that mean PS4 users will be subject to bot-controlled Sagats and the like from PC?
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Lostconfused
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Most definitely.
Someone has to make those bots first though, and make sure they don't trip whatever anti cheating counter measures Capcom has in place.
Holy Order Sol
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it also means no one is safe from LTG
notworksafe
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Just PC? Get pretty much any 360 MCZ TE stick out there and you're set
The new TE-S+ for 360 will work great on PC
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B011DBHLOM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The new TE-S+ for 360 will work great on PC
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B011DBHLOM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Well if it could work on Xbox one or PS4 it would be great. Do makes or models matter much? Too many parts and sticks get promoted on streams.
notworksafe
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Well it depends if you are set on having Sanwa (jp arcade standard) parts. If this is your first stick, then it won't really matter tbh.
The Hori HRAP 4 Kai will work on PS4/PS3/PC. It uses Hori parts but imo those are very solid, especially for a first time user.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SULMRI4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Mad Catz does make sticks that work on PS4/PS3/PC but they are regularly sold out and tbh more than a little overpriced.
The Hori HRAP 4 Kai will work on PS4/PS3/PC. It uses Hori parts but imo those are very solid, especially for a first time user.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SULMRI4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Mad Catz does make sticks that work on PS4/PS3/PC but they are regularly sold out and tbh more than a little overpriced.
irfaanator
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if you want uniel practice. guiseppe and ral are good for that. Idk if ral plays bb anymore but he plays iyazoi and axel in xrd.
Or Troll Sagat
ShinMaruku
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You will have console and pc only options.
Nah, I was originally gonna go, but I decided not to because I don't wanna run the risk of spending time with the anime community and I didn't wanna miss school.
I laughed.
why? :/
hitsugi
Member
I presume at running the risk of spending time with the anime community.
Oh okay lol sorry I was just a bit off tilt.
nbd, I understand.
MiniBossBattle
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My friend is seeing a girl named Annie May and I have written, deleted but have not posted several jokes. This is what happens when IRL & GAF mix.
Kalamari
Member
Maybe he was playing Iron Banner and forgot.
lol
I watched a bit of sp00ky playing Disgaea 5 yesterday and I thought he said he was doing NBLC tonight, so not sure what's up.
cj_iwakura
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Uh, is anyone from here going to CEOtaku?
I may have lost track of a large amount of time with FGC developments, but I thought Sp00ky said that he was stopping NLBC.
I'll be there for Xrd, +R and VSav
cj_iwakura
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Cool. If you know anyone who needs a room, I have extra space at the La Quinta.
I'm in BB, Catherine, Chaos Code, and AH.
Send him the fuckanime.gif and see if he FETs it
ShadowSoldier89
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BB and persona are my main games. Someone on facebook was saying they play persona
irfaanator
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yea not sure of many persona/bb players in pittsburg
If you really wanna learn him don't give up for a bit. There's a bit of a learning curve around controlling him and doing the mode switch, once you get over that hump and have those skills it gets much easier.
Yea i figured as much. Theres been certain characters ive learned in the past like Zato and Magneto that were super overwhelming at first but then were relatively easy once i got over that initial execution barrier but goodness if Valk isnt on a whole other level 0_o
Edit: GREED SEVER
If you're talking about the Next Level issues a couple months back I think sp00ky said he would continue doing it until the place shut down in I think January/February (?) or so. He's certainly still been doing them, and sp00ky streamed the SFV beta earlier today under the title "Street Fighter V Netplay before NLBC". I hope nothing happened to sp00ky
ShadowSoldier89
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ive finally found a fighting game group at all, ill be trying my damndest to get them playing BB with me
sixteen-bit
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shaowebb
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Been going over the Guilty Gear Xrd dissertation on how to achieve 3d that looks properly like 2d and trying to do some of it... Holy hell there is some brilliant stuff here, but man is it a lot of hard assed nonstop shader painting on the tint and normals. No way can I use this for my shit because its too many extra hours to get anything done and thats BEFORE the specialized UV structuring, carefully scripted pin lighting and frame by frame stop motion-esque keyframing.
To prevent shadows from flopping around and making ugly slashes on the model you gotta go and paint every individual feature's normals for each angle in some scenarios. Thats a lot of work. Its entirely necessary to achieve what they did though. There is no way to fake it with in game lighting covering for you.
Best thing I've found though is their mad scientist way of doing precision inner line shaders. They use the UV map. Instead of looking like a nice round pseudo shape like a peeled orange for stuff's UV maps you set them up as boxes and put black between each UV...then you can just tug the seams of the UV's more or less per vertex area into the black to increase or decrease lineweight to properly simulate hand drawn linework that will NEVER look bad even during extreme closeups where as normal maps and textures used for this would get grainy and jaggy.
So now...tons of extra UV work on top of multiple extra maps and multiple hours more on painting shaders...then you add TONS more bones than normal and use NO tween stuff and keyframe every frame by hand like stop motion.
....
Jeez man. Maybe for a reel or if I had a whole team lol . Respect knuckles though to them for doing all this. They took EVERY aspect of a model and went as far as they could with how those tools function to figure this out. Sooooooooo much extra work per character to get all that 3d stuff to look so clean. Just absolutely insane the amount of dedication they showed for this. You have nooooo idea how tedious this shit is to do the way they set it up. Definitely not a one man operation.
I'll have to just work with my shaders and make my own look work. Wish I could deal with all this but damn thats too much for me. I'd never get anywhere once the keyframing finally happened. May as well draw it at that rate.
ASW needs a fucking host of awards for what they achieved with that setup though. The UV map setup with Box shapes and overlapping seams on black was a major stroke of fucking brilliance...just crazy.
To prevent shadows from flopping around and making ugly slashes on the model you gotta go and paint every individual feature's normals for each angle in some scenarios. Thats a lot of work. Its entirely necessary to achieve what they did though. There is no way to fake it with in game lighting covering for you.
Best thing I've found though is their mad scientist way of doing precision inner line shaders. They use the UV map. Instead of looking like a nice round pseudo shape like a peeled orange for stuff's UV maps you set them up as boxes and put black between each UV...then you can just tug the seams of the UV's more or less per vertex area into the black to increase or decrease lineweight to properly simulate hand drawn linework that will NEVER look bad even during extreme closeups where as normal maps and textures used for this would get grainy and jaggy.
So now...tons of extra UV work on top of multiple extra maps and multiple hours more on painting shaders...then you add TONS more bones than normal and use NO tween stuff and keyframe every frame by hand like stop motion.
....
Jeez man. Maybe for a reel or if I had a whole team lol . Respect knuckles though to them for doing all this. They took EVERY aspect of a model and went as far as they could with how those tools function to figure this out. Sooooooooo much extra work per character to get all that 3d stuff to look so clean. Just absolutely insane the amount of dedication they showed for this. You have nooooo idea how tedious this shit is to do the way they set it up. Definitely not a one man operation.
I'll have to just work with my shaders and make my own look work. Wish I could deal with all this but damn thats too much for me. I'd never get anywhere once the keyframing finally happened. May as well draw it at that rate.
ASW needs a fucking host of awards for what they achieved with that setup though. The UV map setup with Box shapes and overlapping seams on black was a major stroke of fucking brilliance...just crazy.
Gets all his meter looking down at these basic opponents that think they hot shit.
Dude is fun.
Lostconfused
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Well that's why they only got so far as a proof of concept demo before starting development where they outsourced a lot of the asset creation work.
Obviously also why there won't be new costumes, might as well make a new character probably.
Of Course the best thing about all of this is that they seem still interested in refining this visual style with all of the improvements they made in revelator.
Edit: In honor of RoI closure being announced I played some EXVS today, yay! It's been a while.
I'm going for Xrd, Yata too probably. Might enter +R and Vsav
Emergnecy reg for BB too.
No. As amusing as it might be, no.
I still got it folks. Time to get bodied at my local and rise as the phoenix that I am to slay fiends. The day I meet Combofiend, I'm going to show him the clip where I got a P on him and ask him for a rematch on top of the stage and get it streamed just for the lulz. Dreams can happen.
Professor Beef
Banned
Fuck, Hearthstone is kinda fun.
They pretty much said it's as much work as making sprite characters, that was a nice read. Xrd is about the only game EPIC keep showing in UE4 reels even though it's using UE3, that's probably the most recognition they'd ever get, lol.
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