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Tripon

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzfO7vnMENw

Team Razer (Xian, Gackt, and Infiltration) vs. Fans at the Singapore launch event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3NRwjk2hg

Infiltration (nash) vs Jianhao (laura)

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Also, this guy has opinions on SFV.

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https://twitter.com/Lamesama/status/704034440285134848

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https://twitter.com/ScrubQuotesX/status/704165587094638592
 
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oneida

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here's a link to that round
you'll note that lion's throw doesn't do nearly as much damage - most throws in VF5FS do about 50-60 damage, or about 25% of a health bar. some characters - Taka, Akira, Goh, Wolf - can do 80 to 100 damage with their throws.

the throw in that round is situational - it's a back throw, which means it cannot be escaped, but it's also the slowest throw in the game (16 frames instead of 10). you really have to set it up. people turn around quickly so back throws are pretty rare. in that round the wolf player sets it up by reversing a low from the lion player, which guarantees BT and the throw.
 
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Shouta

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oneida said:
here's a link to that round
you'll note that lion's throw doesn't do nearly as much damage - most throws in VF5FS do about 50-60 damage, or about 25% of a health bar. some characters - Taka, Akira, Goh, Wolf - can do 80 to 100 damage with their throws.

the throw in that round is situational - it's a back throw, which means it cannot be escaped, but it's also the slowest throw in the game (16 frames instead of 10). you really have to set it up. people turn around quickly so back throws are pretty rare. in that round the wolf player sets it up by reversing a low from the lion player, which guarantees BT and the throw.
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Goddamn, that reverse into the Burning Hammer was amazing, lol
 
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oneida

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As it happens I've got my first VF tourney of 2016 this upcoming Saturday at CECC3. after that probably nothing til toryuken.
 
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N4Us

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VF is the most satisfying game to land a command throw in since they're for more situational uses than in other fighting games.
 
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Fraeon

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I've always lamented the fact that throws are getting worse with every iteration of Tekken and Street Fighter. T7 throws are ridiculously bad at this point unless you're playing a character like King and even his throws would be nothing special in any other game.
 
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ShinMaruku

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So great to see the DOA activity at Final Round. As we can see the community is trying to build something. Big E has always seemed to be welcoming and fits the community in. :)
 
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Shouta

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Fraeon said:
I've always lamented the fact that throws are getting worse with every iteration of Tekken and Street Fighter. T7 throws are ridiculously bad at this point unless you're playing a character like King and even his throws would be nothing special in any other game.
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Throws are generally pretty bad in most fighting games with the exception of VF and DOA. They're built into the game's core mechanics much more with those games.

But as Anne points out, SF5's throws are much better overall for a variety of reasons. Not just regular throws but command grabs are much better too.
 
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Dahbomb

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Fraeon said:
I've always lamented the fact that throws are getting worse with every iteration of Tekken and Street Fighter. T7 throws are ridiculously bad at this point unless you're playing a character like King and even his throws would be nothing special in any other game.
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Throws are both better and worse than in SF4 when taken in isolation, however due to the overall system changes throws are WAY WAY WAY better (offensively) in SFV.


Also throws are insane in UMVC3. Some characters can kill off a 1 frame option selected 1 button throw.
 
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Rhapsody

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Watched the Winterbrawl X archives. Wow, so much great SFV play right there.

You can see all the matchup knowledge and mechanics are coming together.
 
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NEO0MJ

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Teknopathetic said:
"Wait, how did that throw do half bar damage."

Because VF is a game for adults who can handle that shit.
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If VF is so good why isn't it successful?

Personally, I think it's the character design and lack of story. And how unpopular Sega consoles became by the time it launched on consoles. Tried to get my friends into it but they wanted to go back to Tekken ¯_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Oichi

I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce!
NEO0MJ said:
If VF is so good why isn't it successful?

Personally, I think it's the character design and lack of story. And how unpopular Sega consoles became by the time it launched on consoles. Tried to get my friends into it but they wanted to go back to Tekken ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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It was successful until VF5? VF1 - 3 were revolutionary and the stuff they developed in those games have become standard in all fighting games that came after. VF4 is the reason why games like Street Fighter and all ArcSys games can use internet in the arcades. Sega forced it on all arcades for VF4. No other game at the time would've been able to do it.
 
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oneida

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N4Us said:
VF is the most satisfying game to land a command throw in since they're for more situational uses than in other fighting games.
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by command throw do you mean catch throw? like the unbreakable ones characters like wolf shun and el blaze get out of stances? if so idk if id call them situational, its just a matter of training your opponent to block. feels gr8 to land for sure but most don't do a lot of damage
NEO0MJ said:
If VF is so good why isn't it successful?
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if quality and success were cause and effect ex machina wouldve at least been nominated for BP and made more money than the martian

the martian sux
 
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NEO0MJ

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Success in the arcades isn't the same as mainstream success, though. Part if the series' problem was that it arrived on the wrong console. Saturn was a mess and 3 arrived too early on Dreamcast for the wow factor like SC did.
 
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RockTurtle

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VF is so intimidating doe.

it's like, showing up to a table-top game competition, and you choose tic-tac-toe cause there are grandmasters present.
 
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Ludens

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Game a-cho just got Dissidia Arcade machines it seems.

3+ Hours of Dissidia Final Fantasy Arcade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pu8HTwJ5Qk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhurImn2vlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC_0OG8AliA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAqut0Bu14A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWa2MBCEf1w

2+ Hours of Blazblue CF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gSgOKflDxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjsF3qRDLlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs2oIihgkw

1 Hour of Guilty Gear Xrd R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs2oIihgkw

3+ Hours of Melty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ypubFUl4i4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGXDO071pg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqaE88qmlo

An extra 3 Hours of BlazBlue CF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i07Q9sjaDmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45NDnu14K6w

1 Hour of Sengoku Hime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crcjED2Ncfk
 
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NEO0MJ

Member
Why is Lau Chan the only character to age? I mean I appreciate the design more thanks to that change but it's so weird.
 
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pizzacat

Banned
Rev is probably going to be jump in point for me and guilty gear. I remember getting it cheap for PS3 and getting started but then a week later I sold all the last gens for current gen and no cross buy smh :(

Thinking of buying online due to demo

oneida said:
As it happens I've got my first VF tourney of 2016 this upcoming Saturday at CECC3. after that probably nothing til toryuken.
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Hope you do well
 
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RockTurtle

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Looking at the shadaloo stage in sf5 i wonder who was i charge of the shadaloo uniforms.

Bison should give that person a promotion for the little tie decision on the female uniforms.
 
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sixteen-bit

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I like how on the Shadaloo stage all the NPCs slaute Bison if he wins. Do any of the other stages have touches like that?

Reminds me of the kid in Sakura's A2 stage who slams down the Super Famicom controller if she loses, lol.
 
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pizzacat

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sixteen-bit said:
I like how on the Shadaloo stage all the NPCs slaute Bison if he wins. Do any of the other stages have touches like that?

Reminds me of the kid in Sakura's A2 stage who slams down the Super Famicom controller if she loses, lol.
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The kids in Brazil almost faint when Laura has her alt on
 
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Manbig

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Glad I watched Winterbrawl. Was a fun tournament that really re-enforced my sentiments from earlier. Crouch techs will only severely fuck up the offensive flow of this game and I hope any of them that get found end up getting removed promptly.
 
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Beckx

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I didn't get to watch as much of WB as I'd have liked but what I saw was good. Skullgirls top 8 was entertaining, wish SonicFox had run SoloBella farther than just the first match though. Champ v. Moons was good stuff in SFV (crush counters, everywhere) but I didn't get to see many other matches.
 
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