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[Lostconfused]

General state of first week sales for fighting games in Japan:

Ahem,

but then again if Chrono Phantasma is getting included might as well throw in

01./00. [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.01.30} (¥7.980) - 269.940 / NEW <80,83%>

By that I mean if we are going so many years back.

Edit2:

Not to forget Shin I guess

05./00. [PS4] Dead or Alive 5: Last Round # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.02.19} (¥7.344) - 24.457 / NEW
08./00. [PS3] Dead or Alive 5: Last Round # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.02.19} (¥6.264) - 11.271 / NEW
37./00. [XB1] Dead or Alive 5: Last Round # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.02.19} (¥7.344)

 

[BadWolf]

No wonder Namco doesn't care about a T7 console port.

 

[Beckx]

one list to rule them all:

First week sales for fighting games in Japan:

04./00. [PS3] Ultra Street Fighter IV # <FTG> (Capcom) {2014.08.07} (¥4.309) - 42.327 / NEW
01./00. [PS3] Persona 4: Arena Ultimax # <FTG> (Atlus) {2014.08.28} (¥7.538) - 89.468 / NEW
01./00. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.12.06} (¥7.776) - 227.527 / NEW
06./00. [PS3] Guilty Gear Xrd: Sign <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2014.12.04} (¥7.538) - 27.278 / NEW
04./00. [PS4] Street Fighter V # <FTG> (Capcom) {2016.02.18} (¥7.990) - 41.990 / NEW
01./00. [WIU] Pokken Tournament # <FTG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.03.18} (¥7.200) - 69.675 / NEW
03./00. [PS3] BlazBlue: Chronophantasma # <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2013.10.24} (¥7.140) - 72.464 / NEW <86,36%>
08./00. [PS3] Under Night In-Birth Exe:Late <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2014.07.24} (¥6.264) - 9.171 / NEW
05./00. [PS3] BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Extend <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2015.04.23} (¥6.264) - 15.550 / NEW
09./00. [PS4] BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Extend <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2015.04.23} (¥6.264) - 7.589 / NEW
11./00. [PS4] Blade Arcus from Shining EX # <FTG> (Sega) {2015.11.26} (¥7.549) - 12.469 / NEW
16./00. [PS3] Blade Arcus from Shining EX # <FTG> (Sega) {2015.11.26} (¥7.549) - 8.083 / NEW
22./00. [PS4] Nitro+ Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel # <FTG> (Marvelous) {2015.12.10} (¥7.549)
40./00. [PS4] Koihime Enbu # <FTG> (Yeti) {2016.01.28} (¥6.800)

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Central Fiction should be telling on where console fighting games are in japan now. It needs to put up at least Chronophantasma numbers

 

[Onemic]

SFV did better than Pokken? Wow.

Also wow that Xrd did better than SFV

 

[Beckx]

SFV did better than Pokken? Wow.

Also wow that Xrd did better than SFV

no on both counts, pokken > SFV > Xrd

if you add PS4 to Xrd it might edge ahead of SFV

 

[oneida]

one list to rule them all:

First week sales for fighting games in Japan:

04./00. [PS3] Ultra Street Fighter IV # <FTG> (Capcom) {2014.08.07} (¥4.309) - 42.327 / NEW
01./00. [PS3] Persona 4: Arena Ultimax # <FTG> (Atlus) {2014.08.28} (¥7.538) - 89.468 / NEW
01./00. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.12.06} (¥7.776) - 227.527 / NEW
06./00. [PS3] Guilty Gear Xrd: Sign <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2014.12.04} (¥7.538) - 27.278 / NEW
04./00. [PS4] Street Fighter V # <FTG> (Capcom) {2016.02.18} (¥7.990) - 41.990 / NEW
01./00. [WIU] Pokken Tournament # <FTG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.03.18} (¥7.200) - 69.675 / NEW
03./00. [PS3] BlazBlue: Chronophantasma # <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2013.10.24} (¥7.140) - 72.464 / NEW <86,36%>
08./00. [PS3] Under Night In-Birth Exe:Late <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2014.07.24} (¥6.264) - 9.171 / NEW
05./00. [PS3] BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Extend <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2015.04.23} (¥6.264) - 15.550 / NEW
09./00. [PS4] BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Extend <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2015.04.23} (¥6.264) - 7.589 / NEW
11./00. [PS4] Blade Arcus from Shining EX # <FTG> (Sega) {2015.11.26} (¥7.549) - 12.469 / NEW
16./00. [PS3] Blade Arcus from Shining EX # <FTG> (Sega) {2015.11.26} (¥7.549) - 8.083 / NEW
22./00. [PS4] Nitro+ Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel # <FTG> (Marvelous) {2015.12.10} (¥7.549)
40./00. [PS4] Koihime Enbu # <FTG> (Yeti) {2016.01.28} (¥6.800)

Could you link source? curious how VF5 did during PS3 launch and then later during 360 release.

 

[Lostconfused]

Could you link source? curious how VF5 did during PS3 launch and then later during 360 release.

https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1169225
https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1199912

That list is also missing the PS3 version of Xrd, so the difference between SFV and it isn't that big really.

 

[Beckx]

this stuff is all posted in this week's sales thread https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1199912

there's a database linked in that first post that goes to 2004

 

[Lostconfused]

if you add PS4 to Xrd it might edge ahead of SFV

SFV is still ahead by like 2,000 copies on launch week.

 

[Onemic]

no on both counts, pokken > SFV > Xrd

if you add PS4 to Xrd it might edge ahead of SFV

Ah, that makes a lot more sense

 

[Tizoc]

Only talking about Japanese sales. Famistu has digital sales on PS4. Don't think steam is big in Japan.

Yeah fair enough.

Spoiler

If Pokken released on Steam it'd get triple the Japanese sales, just sayin' :V

 

[oneida]

https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1169225
https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1199912

That list is also missing the PS3 version of Xrd, so the difference between SFV and it isn't that big really.

this stuff is all posted in this week's sales thread https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1199912

there's a database linked in that first post that goes to 2004

01. (PS3, Sega) Virtua Fighter 5 - 48,346 / NEW
360 Virtua Fighter 5 Live Arena&#12288;13000 / NEW

 

[NEO0MJ]

Yeah fair enough.

Spoiler

If Pokken released on Steam it'd get triple the Japanese sales, just sayin' :V

It's about time you bought a Wii U, brah. Pokken is so good.

 

[pixelish]

aris training for dark souls 3 nationals now
https://www.twitch.tv/avoidingthepuddle

 

[Kalamari]

Those Smash numbers though

 

[Tripon]

Sakurai spitting out that hot fyre.

Q: Recently, Smash has risen in popularity as an eSport. What do you think of the fact that Melee is as popular as Smash 4? (Male, Kyoto)

A: First off, it makes me very happy. They’re both games I made, after all. And I’m also surprised. Because it means that the players really understood the concept behind that game correctly. The one where skills gaps become very apparent, the one that’s highly competitive is Melee. But I want to avoid a design where stronger players utterly dominate weaker ones. We should make it so that new players can have fun as well. I’ve touched upon this idea in previous columns.

If you want to enjoy the strategy or competitiveness in playing against another person, then maybe normal fighting games are more suited for you. Virtua Fighter 2 had flashy, showy attacks, but it doesn’t appear at overseas tournaments, I wonder if that’s because of a cultural difference?

http://sourcegaming.info/2016/03/23/sakurai-briefly-discusses-smash-as-an-esport/

 

[mbpm1]

VF love :O

 

[skLaFarebear]

Sakurai spitting out that hot fyre.

http://sourcegaming.info/2016/03/23/sakurai-briefly-discusses-smash-as-an-esport/

NX Exclusive VF6 confirmed.

 

[SamVimes]

Man capcom with the sub only archives. I have the flu and I just want to see some blowups on capcom pro talk, is that too much to ask?

 

[jbug617]

Chris Ceg has a podcast with FGC folks called Being Free. Both were recorded during FR.

Episode 1: RS Black Rose and UA|Brandon Alexander
https://soundcloud.com/chrisceg/bei...19-31916-feat-rsblackrose-bifuteki-xboxviking

Episode 2: Hadou
https://soundcloud.com/chrisceg/being-free-ep-02-final-round-day-2-31916

 

[Gunslinger]

Pokken flopped because it came out for a failing system IMO.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Pokken flopped because it came out for a failing system IMO.

Doesn't really explain why Smash sold so amazingly well.

 

[Gunslinger]

Doesn't really explain why Smash sold so amazingly well.

Very true. I am not sure why it failed then..Not enough SP?

 

[skLaFarebear]

I just don't think there was much interest for pokken, even if it's a fun game. The people who really wanna play it competitively can just go to an arcade, unlike Smash.

Very true. I am not sure why it failed then..Not enough SP?

Doesn't really explain why Smash sold so amazingly well.

.

 

[Lostconfused]

Very true. I am not sure why it failed then..Not enough SP?

Probably it, I mean no fighting game will ever sell those numbers, ever. The only thing that even gets close is Blazblue and one thing that Q won't ever shut up about is all the hundreds of hours of single player content in that series.

Doesn't really explain why Smash sold so amazingly well.

Probably same reason something like this sold so well.

01./00. [PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.29} (¥7.980) - 425.718 / NEW <80,95%>

04./00. [PS3] J-Stars Victory Vs # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.03.19} (¥7.980) - 118.240 / NEW <86,55%>
05./00. [PSV] J-Stars Victory Vs # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.03.19} (¥6.980) - 97.821 / NEW <89,25%>

 

[sixteen-bit]

2 new additions to the Brook family

I already have Wii/WiiU arcade sticks, but I like the implication I can play Bayonetta 2 on an X1 Elite pad

 

[skLaFarebear]

Probably same reason something like this sold so well.

It seems like it's just the branding. I don't fully understand why things do/don't sell, but I know that Jojo/Nintendo characters are super popular in Japan.

 

[Lostconfused]

It seems like it's just the branding.

Yes?

 

[Tripon]

I already have Wii/WiiU arcade sticks, but I like the implication I can play Bayonetta 2 on an X1 Elite pad

Might pick up the ps3/ps4 converter. The wii U fight stick I have need to connect though a wiimote anyway

 

[skLaFarebear]

Yes?

Well i did say i don't fully understand sales

 

[Tizoc]

It's about time you bought a Wii U, brah. Pokken is so good.

Not with NX on the horizon

Sakurai spitting out that hot fyre.



http://sourcegaming.info/2016/03/23/sakurai-briefly-discusses-smash-as-an-esport/

Nobody plays VF anyways.
And wasn't tripping added in Brawl to troll the competitive scene?

 

[Tizoc]

Double post sorry.

 

[Master Milk]

to troll everyone

 

[Lostconfused]

Well i did say i don't fully understand sales

Look all the best selling games are based on licenses, or as you decided to put it branding.

The only original game that sells close to that is Blazblue right now. This is after ASW spent years building up their game and characters.

So yes, it's all just branding. 16 Pokemon just isn't appealing enough to sell the same number of copies as a bunch of other Nintendo characters on top of Pokemon.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Brawl was the best.

Look all the best selling games are based on licenses, or as you decided to put it branding.

The only original game that sells close to that is Blazblue right now. This is after ASW spent years building up their game and characters.

So yes, it's all just branding. 16 Pokemon just isn't appealing enough to sell the same number of copies as a bunch of other Nintendo characters on top of Pokemon.

That makes sense. I think they chose some of the more fan favorites (like Pikachu, Lucario, Charizard, etc.) to try to appeal to as many people as they could, but it doesn't seem like it was that successful regardless. I wouldn't be surprised if it got an NX revision with more pokemon sometime down the line.

 

[Beckx]

Pokken flopped because it came out for a failing system IMO.

i've got good news and i've got bad news

the good news: it's not a flop in the context of what fighting games sell in japan

the bad news: this is what fighting games sell in japan

So yes, it's all just branding.

even with branding you see declines if there are concerns over quality. JoJo's ASB had amazing sales; but it was soooo bad, and in the wake of that, iirc Eyes of Heaven didn't hit ASB's sales despite having more characters and better environments.

 

[Anne]

Oi, thinking about trying out doing SFV top 8 recap same as those other pubs, just try to do it from the more technical and play analysis angle. Do it for FR this week and have one for NCR next week. Yay or nay?

 

[mbpm1]

Oi, thinking about trying out doing SFV top 8 recap same as those other pubs, just try to do it from the more technical and play analysis angle. Do it for FR this week and have one for NCR next week. Yay or nay?

yea

 

[skLaFarebear]

Oi, thinking about trying out doing SFV top 8 recap same as those other pubs, just try to do it from the more technical and play analysis angle. Do it for FR this week and have one for NCR next week. Yay or nay?

Definitely.

 

[Nightii]

Oi, thinking about trying out doing SFV top 8 recap same as those other pubs, just try to do it from the more technical and play analysis angle. Do it for FR this week and have one for NCR next week. Yay or nay?

Yay, I'm always down for a good read on the technical side of play.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Oi, thinking about trying out doing SFV top 8 recap same as those other pubs, just try to do it from the more technical and play analysis angle. Do it for FR this week and have one for NCR next week. Yay or nay?

yes

 

[Kumubou]

Oi, thinking about trying out doing SFV top 8 recap same as those other pubs, just try to do it from the more technical and play analysis angle. Do it for FR this week and have one for NCR next week. Yay or nay?

This sounds like one of those things that would be really useful but would not produce any hot sound bites or drama, and would take way longer to produce than the news window for the event.

That and I wonder how many people really want -- or can even process -- in-depth analysis.

 

[Anne]

This sounds like one of those things that would be really useful but would not produce any hot sound bites or drama, and would take way longer to produce than the news window for the event.

That and I wonder how many people really want -- or can even process -- in-depth analysis.

Its 100% something that isn't going to get the general audience. It's more niche, but the people who want this type of content don't have it so I might as well try and point out the critical moments.

 

[pizzacat]

I already have Wii/WiiU arcade sticks, but I like the implication I can play Bayonetta 2 on an X1 Elite pad

Would play the Wii u more with this, but still kinda want to get the ps4 to xone for KI, but what if KI on PC isn't trash


Idk what to do anymore brooks go for $40 ;_;

 

[Exr]

Oi, thinking about trying out doing SFV top 8 recap same as those other pubs, just try to do it from the more technical and play analysis angle. Do it for FR this week and have one for NCR next week. Yay or nay?

Would be appreciated

 

[Infinite]

Oi, thinking about trying out doing SFV top 8 recap same as those other pubs, just try to do it from the more technical and play analysis angle. Do it for FR this week and have one for NCR next week. Yay or nay?

Would read, link, share, and retweet

 

[NEO0MJ]

Would play the Wii u more with this, but still kinda want to get the ps4 to xone for KI, but what if KI on PC isn't trash


Idk what to do anymore brooks go for $40 ;_;

In just a week we'll know how good (or bad) the PC port of KI is going to be.

 

[The Blackrose]

Episode 1: RS Black Rose and UA|Brandon Alexander

People always butchering my name. I swear.

 

[Tripon]

Well, with FGs as a genre continue to be ninche, it's kinda nice to know that new MOBAs are also shitting on the bed.
https://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1200064