Sorcerer Supreme
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i dont see how anything can be worse than the way sfv launched for a fighting game
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i dont see how anything can be worse than the way sfv launched for a fighting game
It could've been A LOT worse.
They could've launched a reality show alongside the game and that could've resulted in massive controversy that could've tarnished the scene and the game.
Game could've been broken fundamentally like how the PS4 port was at launch for USF4.
Game could've launched with no spectator mode (although they damn near did that too again).
There could've been gross character imbalances or crazy exploitable bugs that marred the competitive scene.
Some of the DLC could've been on disc and that would've caused people to lose their collective minds.
Game could've been terrible from a spectator point of view where every game ended with a timeout.
Game could've launched with unfinished menu and just plain bad UI that the developer didn't think was important enough.
I am not even pulling these things out of butt, these are things that not only have happened before but Capcom themselves have pulled.
Honestly the only fighting game that Capcom didn't botch at launch in the previous generation was SF4.
QisTopTier
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1.shitty
2. irrelevant
3.shitty
4. they sucked
5. Nah
6. gitgud.gif
7. who gives a shit guest characters were banned and bad
Capcom did this?
It's Cross Assault man...
Congrats, this is why the game you like is dead. Stuff you think is irrelevant is relevant to a lot of people.
Professor Beef
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"Smash is going to stagnate" is only something to believe if you've never heard of Melee.
Professor Beef
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I don't get why people are so ready to pounce on SF5 for having 1.4 million.
Well...I mean, I get it, because all most of GAF does is complain about fighters without actually playing them. But I don't really get it, ya know?
Well...I mean, I get it, because all most of GAF does is complain about fighters without actually playing them. But I don't really get it, ya know?
Baby steps and all, but I am curious how come Capcom stayed at the 500k prize pool like last year.
Was I the only one who thought it was a given that they were going to double it to 1 million for this year's Capcom Cup? Sony not having enough faith maybe?
Every time Capcom makes a fighter that does poorly financially that hurts prospects of future fighters.
SFV being bare bones as it is because SFxT sold only 1.8 million... which is still higher than what SFV has now. SFV performing poorly is going to have its effect in whatever Capcom puts out next in the genre.
So yeah it's a cause for concern.
Now people jumping on SFV performing poorly as sort of a "I told ya so haha game is ass" is pure schadenfreude. But that's not exclusive to SFV on GAF and exactly why Neoxon was admonished in the thread for complaining that SFV gets crapped on too much. You should visit the weekly BO thread in the OT especially when BvS was releasing... oh man what sight to behold.
Then there's the camp that is happy the game sold that bad because Capcom is being punished for producing a rushed product. Which is generally a good thing in my book because A LOT of games and companies are left unpunished for releasing subpar products. But no need to continually kick a dead horse, point has been made loud and clear at this point.
QisTopTier
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Well yeah most people dont play the games they buy to completion either
I have near 0 respect for people who bandwagon and don't take time to figure things out on their own, even less for people that make uneducated blanket statements.
edit: launch sfxt was a mess regardless
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Rice-Eater
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500k is the base prize, it will actually be higher than that. Part of the money from the CPT bundle and the individual items themselves(I think) will go to the prize pot for Capcom Cup. I think last years Capcom Cup had a total pay out of 250k. It might be more like 400-500k this year.
If it doesn't sale gaf can't like it, that's why some people in this forum are stanning certain things
Capcom really overestimated how much bullshit people can take from them. Same thing happened with SFV.
Holy Order Sol
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bruh
Not really the same thing. They thought they had a really cool new system that would merge the mobile style micro-transactions with home consoles with gems. SF5 just needed more time to develop and they didn't have that.
Stick didn't even have a chance to activate v trigger
notworksafe
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doesn't explain the neo-ghostbusters stanning
sixteen-bit
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poongko got mad while playing sfv and punched his stick till it's broken.
edit: he injured his hand too lol
Tekken 7 can't drop soon enough
Yeah. That article is a joke. The only reason smash 4 isn't on Sunday is because the powers that be feel it would be a bit redundant with melee also on Sunday. Anyway most people aren't complaining about it not being on Sunday they are upset with how the tournament ran
There's stanning for that for another reason altogether
its a good movi--
Ha lmaoo couldn't even type it
Ha lmaoo couldn't even type it
skLaFarebear
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Kalamari
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Poongko thought he had an iron fist, but it was more like a jelly fist.
.la1n
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poongko got mad while playing sfv and punched his stick till it's broken.
edit: he injured his hand too lol
Come on man your better than that. When I reach that point in fighting games I take a nice long break because I always feel really stupid afterwards. Yesterday I played about 15 straight matches with a player on KI and could not win a single match even when using my main. It's days like that can be demoralizing. Going back to watch the replays I can see all the mistakes I was making because of frustration.
Been saying this forever, and it really did come across when you played it.
Poorly thought out everything.
SFxT had some interesting ideas and some not so great ideas for me.
Prepatch alpha counters were a bad idea. You shouldn't be doing that much damage off of 2 bars. It was like 50 percent health with some teams lol. It blew up people that thought they could get away with walk jab xN on me at least. Pandora was very meh to me. They knew people in the community had knee-jerk reactions to comeback mechanics, but they were too careful on this one. Really bad that activating into Pandora and going straight into super wasn't viable all the time because of how long some supers were.
Charging moves until they flash and then dash canceling to make your next hit a Counter Hit was cool in SFxT (especially when spending 1 bar to make it fast in pressure). Made characters like Juri so much fun. Only issue was you'd lose it if you ended up whiffing any normal/special. They fixed that in SFV with Alex V Skill which is nice.
Game got much better in 2013 patch, but I felt like it was 1 more patch away for it to get me to really really like it. It was fun post patch, but i was too late for me to invest lots of time.
Prepatch alpha counters were a bad idea. You shouldn't be doing that much damage off of 2 bars. It was like 50 percent health with some teams lol. It blew up people that thought they could get away with walk jab xN on me at least. Pandora was very meh to me. They knew people in the community had knee-jerk reactions to comeback mechanics, but they were too careful on this one. Really bad that activating into Pandora and going straight into super wasn't viable all the time because of how long some supers were.
Charging moves until they flash and then dash canceling to make your next hit a Counter Hit was cool in SFxT (especially when spending 1 bar to make it fast in pressure). Made characters like Juri so much fun. Only issue was you'd lose it if you ended up whiffing any normal/special. They fixed that in SFV with Alex V Skill which is nice.
Game got much better in 2013 patch, but I felt like it was 1 more patch away for it to get me to really really like it. It was fun post patch, but i was too late for me to invest lots of time.
Immortal Technique
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Wow, what a mess.
If mass-renames can't be rolled back, then that's a fantastic tool for hackers to permanently screw over a channel. Much better than just deleting all the videos or whatever.
True. I just meant that they thought people would accept the games in the state they were when first available. That they'll let the flaws slide.
Professor Beef
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So, like Marvel players?
It's not great, but I'm just glad they tweaked it a little.
Professor Beef
Banned
He's not wrong, I suppose. I like the controller well enough, but it's still totally weird. That dpad though...garbage.
Bandai-Namco just said early 2017. That can be Jan. to all the way to June if they really wanted to.
Cosmo Clock 21
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The current gen controllers give it a run for its money. Those sculpted L/R triggers though Kreygasm
call_kotaku
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I sort of wonder what kinds of input devices the Melee community would be using now if the rules allowed modified/custom controllers
Never understood the love for the GC controller. I think the left analog and the face buttons are the only good thing about it. From the placement of the start button, weird asymmetry with the Z button, triggers that depress weird, how far down the c-stick and d-pad are from the analog and face buttons, etc. Everything always had a cheap build quality to it too, which is probably the biggest con (especially with the triggers).
N64 controller to Wiimote are dark times for Ninty controllers. They sort of got their heads together for the nunchuck, gamepad and pro controller using more ergonomic designs and sensible button placement.
N64 controller to Wiimote are dark times for Ninty controllers. They sort of got their heads together for the nunchuck, gamepad and pro controller using more ergonomic designs and sensible button placement.
I think people have been guessing March 2017 as they figure that Bamco wants it out before the end of their fiscal year, and that would give them the most time to get the game out while still doing that. Not sure how well that plays with regards to release timings, though.
But the problem is that the Pro Controller isn't wired, hence why it's not used as often at tournaments.
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