Professor Beef
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you should keep complaining, i'm sure they'll tell the devs immediately
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you should keep complaining, i'm sure they'll tell the devs immediately
I know shaowebb is on board for this game with how TvCish it looks lol
I don't know yet. I've already accepted it as an experimental offshoot of MvC that's meant to be more casual friendly (something the franchise sorely needs), but I don't know if the skill ceiling has been lowered so far that this is now an unsalvageable product.
The visuals will undoubtably improve and get more consistent (or at least I'm not sure why there is a white glow sometimes, but I doubt it's a gameplay indicator), but I really like the SFxTK-esque instant switching (which can function as an assist... kinda) and it also seems like they've yet to spill on some of the other mechanics like the second ability each Infinity Stone has.
I don't know yet. I've already accepted it as an experimental offshoot of MvC that's meant to be more casual friendly (something the franchise sorely needs), but I don't know if the skill ceiling has been lowered so far that this is now an unsalvageable product.
The visuals will undoubtably improve and get more consistent (or at least I'm not sure why there is a white glow sometimes, but I doubt it's a gameplay indicator), but I really like the SFxTK-esque instant switching (which can function as an assist... kinda) and it also seems like they've yet to spill on some of the other mechanics like the second ability each Infinity Stone has.
but this is what they did, and the branding is still being put to use here
Gunslinger
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I hope Capcom work on the graphics but the game looks like a Wii/Wiiu game AKA TvC. Down to the graphics and gameplay. Is Avengers 3 coming out next year? If so seems like a movie tie in game. The movie is about Thanos and infinity stone too.
MiniBossBattle
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I don't like the Sfxt switch.
There needs to be a risk of some sort.
However we have no idea about what enables you to tag as of yet.
Karsticles
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The interview said that the team wants people to be able to swap characters whenever you want, so my guess is that tagging costs no meter - no reason for it to mid-combo anyway.
It's Donald Trump levels of bad.
Risk = removing 2 features from previous games and calling it a day?
im actually digging the gameplay trailer and the gems seem like could maybe be cool.
anyone have any clue what determines how many times you can tag between partners? will it be meter dependent?
edit: Nvm karst got it
but rwith the gems i could imagine 1 or 2 becoming the only competitively viable ones that will be tough to balance
anyone have any clue what determines how many times you can tag between partners? will it be meter dependent?
edit: Nvm karst got it
but rwith the gems i could imagine 1 or 2 becoming the only competitively viable ones that will be tough to balance
Cosmo Clock 21
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tag2 style switching imo
Graphics remind me of the PBAS blandness.
you should get your eyes check if you think Wii and Wii U are in the same generation. also TvC got way more style than MVCi
yeah tvc def had more character visually than what we seen.
We already have numerous tag switching games on the market, Marvel was one of the very few games with assist based fighting that defined it. If I wanted to play a 2v2 fighter with no assists and mid combo tag combos then I would play SFXT and Tekken Tag 2.
Man the prophecy really has come to fruition. Marvel 2 fans complained about how casual Marvel 3 is and now Marvel 3 fans will say the same about Marvel I. The fighting game cycle continues.
Man the prophecy really has come to fruition. Marvel 2 fans complained about how casual Marvel 3 is and now Marvel 3 fans will say the same about Marvel I. The fighting game cycle continues.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
The patterns say otherwise
Karsticles
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RIP Dormammu and Phoenix. We won't be able to have awesome shit like both of you in a game like this.
I'd say Wolverine, but Magneto is #2 no doubt.
RIP FChamp
Dorm
Doom
Mag
Phoenix
all gone. Even the Sentinel he played in vanilla is gone too/
Not complaining at all. I'm pretty fine with what they are trying to do. I just think that having mvc in the name and not seeing seeing assists aren't syncing for some people which is the cause for the negative reactions some are displaying.
I agree with this. I am very interested in seeing this game version of the groove system.
Team composition is going to be the two best characters on the same team with the best gem.
That or a point character that can open people up really easily and a secondary that can do massive damage. So whoever is best at neutral and whoever has biggest damage/anchor potential with resources.
I don't think team synergy is going to be the focus of this game. They probably want you to play whatever 2 character pair you want and make it work.
There's already a lot of misinformed stuff being spread on gaming side. People think that because it's 2v2 and has no assists that the combos wouldn't be crazy or long and you aren't going to get wasted fast. They also think this game is going to magically be well balanced on launch.
I got news for people:
*Bad people will still get thoroughly wasted in a flash in this game.
*You will still get hit by long ass combos for big damage.
*At launch some broken stuff will be discovered and will be abused to death until people get sick of it and Capcom has to patch it.
*This is still going to be harder to play/learn than SFV because you still have to learn 2 characters and you still have to practice combos/set ups/situations in lab. You are going to be punished even harder for dropping combos.
CommandThrower
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I predict we see Dante/Leon Kennedy vs Starlord tomorrow, then.
Look at all this salt. I guess the people that were looking forward to drinking fan tears at the prospect of no MvC4 announced still got their wish fulfilled.
I liked MvC3 but it was filled to the brim with bullshit. It was a fun game but not what I would call a good, honest fighting game. I would have been fine with more of that style I guess but the direction Infinite is taking is also exciting.
I liked MvC3 but it was filled to the brim with bullshit. It was a fun game but not what I would call a good, honest fighting game. I would have been fine with more of that style I guess but the direction Infinite is taking is also exciting.
If people wanted to play an honest fighter they would be playing Tekken or VF.
And this game is not going to be that honest either. Expect to get hit and be put in a long combo. Or random comeback with Infinity stones while the character teleport around you and then puts you in a pseudo infinite with the speed gem.
And this game is not going to be that honest either. Expect to get hit and be put in a long combo. Or random comeback with Infinity stones while the character teleport around you and then puts you in a pseudo infinite with the speed gem.
MiniBossBattle
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Pretty much. Tag in is only useful for combos vs assits can be used to extend combos AND use in neutral or make unsafe moves safe. There is a risk when calling an assist vs dropping a combo.
FadedRevolution
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So the time gem is basically Juri's Feng Shui Engine.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yeah I don't remember them showing off combos that long and dumb in marvel 3's early gameplay videos.
If early stuff is that long I can only suspect it will get dumber later on
If early stuff is that long I can only suspect it will get dumber later on
Karsticles
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FadedRevolution
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I wonder if the space gem will be a more defensive gem. Based off what it did in MSH. Would that possibly be the gem for a combo breaker?
ZeroTheShadow
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This honestly feels like some corrupt a wish shit.
"I want a new Marvel vs. game!"
"Granted but there are no x-men, no assist, it's 2v2, looks like shit, & has gems"
"I want a new Marvel vs. game!"
"Granted but there are no x-men, no assist, it's 2v2, looks like shit, & has gems"
Clockwrok's twitter impressions seem like the reasonable attitude. RTed something like "sucks assists are gone" but is still saying it could be a good game anyways. Literally the only real thing we have to go on mechanically is gems are like grooves and assists are gone.
The minion tears are kinda ridiculous.
The minion tears are kinda ridiculous.
Immortal Technique
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I can't stop watching it and laughing every time
He worked a game. He knows.
thanks doggo
Professor Beef
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Karsticles
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2 days ago, I had a thought: "Finally, something good in 2016."
But MvC1 and TvC had assists.
Cosmo Clock 21
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It could be a good game but it still wouldn't be Marvel. I guess we'll have to see just how important the things missing are to the monolithic concept of "Marvel hype"
FadedRevolution
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well to be fair people said the same thing about marvel 3
Shouta
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I said they weren't as big of a deal in the 2v2 not that they didn't exist. You should probably focus more on grading papers if you're not reading what I wrote correctly. =P
MSHvSF had Assists as well. I think XvSF did too but it's been so long since I played that game, I don't remember.
MSH was the first game to feature the "variable assist" mechanic. The assists weren't nearly as central of a thign until MvC1 right? And in MvC1 it was a pretty poor implementation of just a few hyperly powerful ones? I don't even know how people knew how to select assists back then tbh. I just look up the codes. I guess if you only needed to know like 3 of them it was p easy.
Karsticles
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I was focusing on you saying you had fun with TvC, which had assists. It isn't clear to me how you enjoying TvC is relevant here. I read what you wrote just fine.
Shouta
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Makes sense MSHvsSF was the first. It's been so long since I played XvSF. It came out when I was in middle school, lol.
It wasn't as central until MvC2 as I recall. MSHvSF had one flavor of assist per character as I recall and it could be used to extend combos but it really didn't revolve around it. MvC1 had a ton of assists and extremely powerful ones at that. So it started to become part of the meta but because assists were limited usage. That made it hard to center your entire gameplan around. MvC2 was real paradigm shift in regards to them because of multiple varieties, unlimited usage, and two assists available to you if all your chars were still alive.
How is not clear? Everyone is moaning about losing assists and I point out that the 2v2 games, where assists are not as central, are still really fun to play. TvC is one of those games.
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