Frame advantage is my biggest turn-on.
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Frame advantage is my biggest turn-on.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
i smell an aggressive DLC approach for consoles
Dude, you're still alive! I thought you got perm'd as a junior.
Sounds like you're just not trying hard enough.
GOING INTO OVERDRIVE!
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Everywhere but US PS3.(Ignoring EU, like one does in these discussions)
Maybe.
Probably not though.
BBCP Release Dates:
Arcade
November 21, 2012
PlayStation 3
JP: October 24, 2013
NA: March 25, 2014
ArcSys is juggling 3 games at the moment and They still have to get Persona 4 new version out the door.
I don't understand why ArcSys seemingly enjoys shitting on it's own released games with new games to directly compete with.
SloaneRisette
Member
How big is ArcSys? 3 fighting games to juggle sounds like a lot.
Master Milk
Member
What are you talking about? They give their games plenty of breathing room in the arcades
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Nah. They've tried that before with CS. (Simultaneous DLC and Arcade additions)
and Capcom tried packing almost twice as many characters into console over arcade
Both didn't work out too well, and haven't been tried by anyone since
I expect it to follow suit with BB. Arcade perfect port with like 1 or 2 exclusive characters. Rest will be added gradually in new versions over the next few years.
Sucks but that's what happens when you have to create assets from scratch in a fighting game. Roster cuts. Can't recreate an entire game from scratch in so little time and be expected to add new things as well. Gotta prioritize making the new game
How long will BBCP have been in arcades by next month?
Wikipedia says Nov. 21st of 2012. That personally doesn't seem all that long to me. Then again, I won't pretend to know much about the arcade business, especially the Japanese arcade business.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Since the end of 2012
Yeah. It only seems that way from our perspective because we get ports so late.
but obviously the west is an after thought. Arcades are primary and domestic console releases are secondary.(although this may not be true for Xrd, which had platforms announced before an arcade date was given)
Master Milk
Member
Per Wiki - Release date(s) Arcade JP November 21, 2012
Over a year is plenty. Plus when an arcade game is finally ported to consoles, they usually don't have any more expectations for that arcade iteration.
I gotcha now. Fair enough then, given that their games don't seem to sell amazingly here. I feel like they aren't doing themselves any favors by releasing the games so late, but again what do I know.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
For people worried about the roster there might be a chance of characters being added post release to arcade as well.
Like we have no idea what their plan is for Xrd atm.
Like we have no idea what their plan is for Xrd atm.
SousedLouse
Member
I'm overwhelmed by a sense of empathy because of this post - although the irritation spreads to pretty much all of GAF for me.
Even more so than Virtua Fighter 5? Battle Arena Toshinden? Street Fighter EX3!?
I agree. It's literally the ONLY next gen fighting game, it has to be that by default.
Clearly, you're not real enough to cop the JPSN patch, so for you the answer is no. There's no official date either, although I'm sure Kidooka's looking off to the west, stroking his pet cat and murmuring "soon" and "yes" over and over again, with brief fits of maniacal laughter here and there.
You folks never skip a beat.
Arc makes bank in the arcades, so it's not surprising they have so many games out.
GGXrd appears to be ASW's way of trying harder to establish a presence of the US. I don't think they expected BlazBlue to become as big as it did (at least in Japan), so they had no real plan on how to manage the series in the States. ArcSys is trying to revise their model to be more flexible (to the States at least) while still keeping their identity as a group that puts importance in aesthetic presentation (through Story, Voice Acting and whatnot).
GGXrd appears to be ASW's way of trying harder to establish a presence of the US. I don't think they expected BlazBlue to become as big as it did (at least in Japan), so they had no real plan on how to manage the series in the States. ArcSys is trying to revise their model to be more flexible (to the States at least) while still keeping their identity as a group that puts importance in aesthetic presentation (through Story, Voice Acting and whatnot).
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Retro_
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I think part of the reason is that they aren't that big. Unlike Capcom and Namco they don't have US branches. So they have to rely on partnerships with localization companies like Aksys in the west to translate and distribute their games in those territories, and there's always inherently a period of lag time between releases with 3rd Party localization
3s? I don't know if you heard, but there was just a 3S tournament in Japan. It was kind of big for a game that released 1999 and would be garbage if it was released today
but i guess cuz merca doesn't play it, it sucks.
I'll take your word on it!
Oh, really? For some reason I thought they did have a U.S. branch office. Huh. Now things make a lot more sense.
I always wondered why it seemed like they were cannabalizing their own sales, but I never took the arcades and money/localization issues into account. Thanks for the ArcSys 101, fellas.
Slamtastic
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Capcom's best fighting games would not be appreciated by plebian 09ers, yes, we don't need them to come out today to see that, we can observe it already.
How come no one told me cvs2 chang is cheap as fuck?
He has an assist(choi). He has ridiculous high priority normals. Choi forces you to play weird. His moves take 20%-30% off the guard bar. You block the assist you eat a mix up, you block you can eat a command grab. You block your guard is broken. A groove chang? YOU JUMP YOU DIE. Anti air into assist marvel combos. So good.
This game had so much untapped potential that never seen the light or day in the competitive scene. What a god damn good game with ridiculous amount of depth, and complexity.
He has an assist(choi). He has ridiculous high priority normals. Choi forces you to play weird. His moves take 20%-30% off the guard bar. You block the assist you eat a mix up, you block you can eat a command grab. You block your guard is broken. A groove chang? YOU JUMP YOU DIE. Anti air into assist marvel combos. So good.
This game had so much untapped potential that never seen the light or day in the competitive scene. What a god damn good game with ridiculous amount of depth, and complexity.
SolarKnight
Member
Alternatively it could be like Chronophantasma and come out an entire year later
.la1n
Member
You forgot to add Dengeki in March!
I know you didn't forget...
They can juggle 3 fighting games just fine. In Japan. Other territories? Not a chance. They can't even keep up support for one at a time.
but alstein said it would be laughed at
Arcsys has a US office, but it might as well not exist.
We got like... 2 tweets of news written on a shoe I think? lol
sixteen-bit
Member
Anime is real
Time for anime fighters to finally be respected.
Because among their primary audience theses games do not compete among one another
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Arcsys has a US office, but it might as well not exist.
haha I forgot about that
I think both are rare
CT and CS both released around 7-8 months after arcade on console. but that was when BB was their sole focus and their flagship game.
With Persona to consider now probably a little closer to the longer side like CP. All depends on when Persona actually releases really. Xrd isn't going to come out before or probably anywhere near when it drops
I gave my reasoning too!
Ultimately, everything new/different ODST did well was either pretty minimal in the grand scheme of things or was not executed very well. I definitely had much bigger hopes for a concept players have been begging for for years only to be treated to lifeless characters and probably one of the most boring open worlds ever, so bad it even begins cutting into the atmosphere when you become cognizant that wherever you are now looks exactly like the place you just left.
The idea they sold was VERY different than the game we got, that's why it's more disappointing to me than Halo 4, where you could see pretty much every flaw coming outside of the mid-campaign info dump and terminals still being pieces of shit that don't belong in these games.
The campaign was alright IMO. The level design was very good and reminiscent of Halo 1 and the story was much more developed than any other Halo. It's just the Promethean design was absolutely horrendous and one dimensional which made gameplay suffer at large.
The multiplayer was more offensive than Reach not just because it introduced more unpredictable elements into gameplay but it also began to steer away from the core of the design where now you had to unlock guns. Big fucking no-no.
I have faith that 343 can make a good game (ultimately, Halo 4 is a pretty impressive achievement taking the reigns of such a franchise, who else has ever had that much pressure?), but until they change the pillars they decided were what makes a good Halo, you might not ever see the multiplayer especially back anywhere close to as tight as it was in Halo 3.
Well that's a surprise. Could even see a JP console release in the next 6 months and maybe a domestic release before 2018.
before the 5th character announcement probably
Wait, what? Were DS3's not allowed at EVO? If so, why was that rule put in place?
I think we can safely assume that if EVO has a game on a console that doesn't support wired controllers of any kind, they will allow wireless controllers.
Or maybe they'll require participants to act out their matches in pantomime.
It's because there's no easy way to unpair the controller & they're afraid someone will interfere. (Apparently)
Or maybe they'll require participants to act out their matches in pantomime.
It's because there's no easy way to unpair the controller & they're afraid someone will interfere. (Apparently)
theprodigy
Member
MrWizard would know the situation better than I would, but here's how I interpreted it. Wireless controllers that can't desync easily are not allowed because someone in the audience can hit the PS button and bring up menus. Definitely not something you want to experience during finals. I'm guessing xbox controllers would be allowed because you can pull the batteries, but still.
Orpheus Telos
Member
Speaking of controllers, the DS4 is allowed at tournaments right? I can't see any reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but I just want to double check, cuz if it's not I'll need to get another controller.
SloaneRisette
Member
But Brawl had Olimar though.
.la1n
Member
Yeah I honestly have no clue what either player is doing but it looks fun as hell.