Fighting Games Weekly | July 1-7 | Heel turns, shattered dreams, broken cages

Anyone else getting tired of Vergil and/or Doom teams?
 
QisTopTier said:
He "has won" but is he really winning anything these days? I'll wait til evo comes around to actually consider him out of the top
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I can't help but to see a bare breast instead of a shoulder on your avatar pic, when I scroll through the thread... EVERY TIME. >_>
 
Northeastmonk said:
How does Fchamp place so low? Why didn't Justin win? lol I missed CEO this year. I hope I don't miss out on EVO.
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Champ tried to use his Dorm team against Green Ace (who did really well at CEO) and got bopped free. He then tried to use his Phoenix team against a guy playing Viper/Doom/Ammy and got bopped too. If he had done the opposite the results could have been very different, because Green Ace's team doesn't seem to have anti-Phoenix tech and Dorm does much better against Viper.

Justin didn't win because he couldn't beat Chris G, then PR Rog was obviously extremely familiar with Wolvie/Akuma and bodied Justin quite convincingly. Although he won 1 round due to a drop from J Wong leading to a Dark Vergil comeback.
 
Zukuu said:
I can't help but to see a bare breast instead of a shoulder on your avatar pic, when I scroll through the thread... EVERY TIME. >_>
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You implying noel's neck is broken? Actually her shoulders would be broken in that case as well :lol
 
Sorcerer Supreme said:
You mean CJ Showstoppa, Drew Gimey and the random no name guys that show up to his house?

The problem with FChamp is that he fights nothing but the same people 24/7. That along with the fact that he fights nothing but Vergil's, Doom's and Strider's is hurting him more than it's helping him.

NorCal is also very overrated.
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He gets plenty of guests at his house including many top players. He has had PRRog, Apologyman, Neo, Clockwork, Fanatiq, KBR, Yipes, Zak Bennet, the Japanese players, Combofiend, Killer Kai at his house all of whom he has beaten in long sets. I mean yea yea I know... household advantage but he plays many MMs in tourneys as well and does well in those too.

I will agree though that Norcal is overrated.
 
That BlazBlue gif is getting me curious enough to try and get into the series again (I wasn't so fond of it at first, but now I have more of an appreciation for Arc with Guilty Gear, I'd be down with giving the series another shot) before Chronophantasma comes out.

Urge to get back in... rising...
 
biosnake20 said:
GreenAce has the best Dante.
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I would agree, just on the principal he does all the shit he does with none of his really absurd assists(Vajra, Unibeam, Disruptor, Drones, etc). Still, there are a lot of things he can improve on, imo, but he's still probably the best atm(since Yipes doesn't play anymore).
 
Dahbomb said:
He just won Northwest Majors.

I just think considering FChamp outside the top 5 players in this game is preposterous. There are either 5 gods who tower above everyone else or there is the one true god.
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Chris G, PR Rog, J Wong and Flocker are very blatantly the top 4 ATM, although PR Rog can be prone to being inconsistent and having rusty execution. After them I'll argue that Unknown, Green Ace, Dieminion (debatable since he'll probably lose to Champ in a head to head but post more consistent finishes), Richard N and argubly Rayray and Ranmasama are all above Champ. Heck Neo seems to be more settled and consistent than Champ although Champ is probably still more skillful.
 
scytheavatar said:
Chris G, PR Rog, J Wong and Flocker are very blatantly the top 4 ATM, although PR Rog can be prone to being inconsistent and having rusty execution. After them I'll argue that Unknown, Green Ace, Dieminion (debatable since he'll probably lose to Champ in a head to head but post more consistent finishes), Richard N and argubly Rayray and Ranmasama are all above Champ. Heck Neo seems to be more settled and consistent than Champ although Champ is probably still more skillful.
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Then that's a dumb argument to make. You listed some players who have happened to have done well recently whereas FChamp has done well over years. Its not even close, like no way in hell Richard Fucking Nguyen is better than FChamp, from a tournament, skill or knowledge level.

The reasons the gods are named as such as they have won multiple majors, appeared in at least one EVO top 8 and have gotten many top 8s at majors. None of those players has the resume of FChamp and skillwise I would not put any of them over him. Most of the players you listed haven't even won a major yet.
 
3 questions

-Because of all the talk about Scorpion being too good or not I was looking forward to seeing this tournament's results to see what happened, but I pretty much had to miss everything. How did that go?

-Any idea when we should be expecting the EVO brackets to be uploaded? (God I just really hope I didn't get any of the 8am pools)

-Is an FGC-GAF EVO meetup being planned?

QisTopTier said:
Extend is dirt cheap these days :D
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I'm tempted to get it while I'm in Vegas to warm up for Chrono Phantasma, but I just feel "bleh" about Extend at this point tbh :|
 
Dahbomb said:
Then that's a dumb argument to make. You listed some players who have happened to have done well recently whereas FChamp has done well over years. Its not even close, like no way in hell Richard Fucking Nguyen is better than FChamp, from a tournament, skill or knowledge level.

The reasons the gods are named as such as they have won multiple majors, appeared in at least one EVO top 8 and have gotten many top 8s at majors. None of those players has the resume of FChamp and skillwise I would not put any of them over him.
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This is what matters, the now not the past, players evolve.

Do you bet on a horse that has won 30 races but lost the last 5, or do you bet on the horse that won the last 5?

SolarKnight said:
I'm tempted to get it while I'm in Vegas to warm up for Chrono Phantasma, but I just feel "bleh" about Extend at this point tbh :|
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I felt that way about it at first too, after taking a break from it for a long time and trying a bunch of other games I came back and warmed up to it a lot more.
 
scytheavatar said:
Chris G, PR Rog, J Wong and Flocker are very blatantly the top 4 ATM, although PR Rog can be prone to being inconsistent and having rusty execution. After them I'll argue that Unknown, Green Ace, Dieminion (debatable since he'll probably lose to Champ in a head to head but post more consistent finishes), Richard N and argubly Rayray and Ranmasama are all above Champ. Heck Neo seems to be more settled and consistent than Champ although Champ is probably still more skillful.
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one of the dumbest posts ever lmao
 
QisTopTier said:
This is what matters, the now not the past players evolve.

Do you bet on a horse that has won 30 races but lost the last 5, or do you bet on the horse that won the last 5?
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Its still a dumb argument because they have not won anything either.

Do you bet on a guy who has won several majors, has gotten top 8 in every EVO including an EVO win plus many top 8 finishes or do you bet on a guy who made top once or twice with no actual wins?

If you want to spin this then spin this correctly.
 
QisTopTier said:
I felt that way about it at first too, after taking a break from it for a long time and trying a bunch of other games I came back and warmed up to it a lot more.
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It's not even that I'm burned out of it, from the beginning I've only been able to play it on and off because of the damn retailers never getting a single copy. Hell, if anything taking a break from it and playing other things is what made me feel "bleh" about it when I came back tbh.
 
Dahbomb said:
Then that's a dumb argument to make. You listed some players who have happened to have done well recently whereas FChamp has done well over years. Its not even close, like no way in hell Richard Fucking Nguyen is better than FChamp, from a tournament, skill or knowledge level.

The reasons the gods are named as such as they have won multiple majors, appeared in at least one EVO top 8 and have gotten many top 8s at majors. None of those players has the resume of FChamp and skillwise I would not put any of them over him. Most of the players you listed haven't even won a major yet.
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They have done well recently because they have all leveled up tremendously recently, while Champ who was far ahead of almost everyone last year has plateaued. And his shortcomings mentally and how unsettled he is in his team selection is becoming increasingly obvious. It doesn't matter that these guys haven't won a major yet, because chances are most or even all of these guys will finish above Champ in EVO, if they come to EVO. The odds of Champ finishing top 8 at EVO looks pretty bleak ATM, he's like last year's Yipes. You can't help but feel that he'll self destruct against some lesser player anytime.
 
Dahbomb said:
Its still a dumb argument because they have not won anything either.

Do you bet on a guy who has won several majors, has gotten top 8 in every EVO including an EVO win plus many top 8 finishes or do you bet on a guy who made top once or twice with no actual wins?

If you want to spin this then spin this correctly.
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Depends on how they are performing recently. I'm not betting on a sick horse no matter how good it performed before.
 
QisTopTier said:
He "has won" but is he really winning anything these days? I'll wait til evo comes around to actually consider him out of the top
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Seen this before in other games- the fire's gone in tournament play for him (except EVO) because he makes such a comfortable living. He just literally doesn't need to win anymore because of his sponsorships and FGTV setup.
 
vulva said:
asking if we're wagering just now? Are you new to fighting game threads? :O
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i must admit i've been neglecting the FGC related things past couple of months because of EVE online. but that ish is boring now and i need that HYPE directly hooked to my veins
 
Dahbomb said:
Because FChamp sandbagging/prepping/saving tech for EVO and Justin not having a proper counter team to ChrisG.
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Pretty much Dahbomb.

I was worried about Camp till we found out he bodied the great white hope GreenAce 10-0 in a runback. Clearly he is saving all his tech for the only tournament title that matters. :)

FGTV house gonna be crazy before Evo.
 
Dahbomb said:
That was a troll though about the FT10. That's FChamp playing mind games so he can get a bigger MM going.
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Wait what? It was?

Wow hella mind games going on now.

I still don't think anyone in the world can truly defeat ChrisG going by his form right now. But, if I made a list of people who might be able to knock him into losers or the like FChamp would most def be at the top.
 
Dahbomb said:
Because you can be a god and still not make top 3 at EVO. There are 5 gods remember? Plus top 8 is still a huge accomplishment for EVO and a nice cut off.


FChamp gets top 8 I win, he gets eliminated before you win. Amount can be decided upon.
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He'll probably make it up to where he meets another "god" and I'll take whichever guy except for Yipes over him. I need to see a bracket first.
 
xCobalt said:
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lolol Mike "Cagecrusher" Ross.
 
Officer Dahbomb is 100% on that F.Champ train. Losses = sandbagging, etc.
mesmerMAN said:
fanatiq turning a new leaf and getting back to his FGC roots without needed drama, Fchamp being friendly and accommodating to him on camera.
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That's not a heel turn, that's a face turn. smh enzo, don't you do research? Oh who am I kidding, expecting research from someone who reads Eventhubs.
 
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