sixteen-bit
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Maybe they can get a second chance. Kickstarter or something, lol.
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Fighting Games Weekly | June 15-21 | 16 is barely okay
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Maybe they can get a second chance. Kickstarter or something, lol.
Karsticles
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Nope, I don't think there was anything new. But gootecks is playing and supposedly LI Joe showed some Nash play.
EDIT: Also Editors tournament was interesting Spanish player Nacho showed some solid play.
That's a lot, especially considering they added crush counter to the game. I imagine the damage on punishes is already high enough as is.
I'm still sitting here daydreaming of ways to limit throw OS in the game that aren't flat out TRM. I still like Yata's way a lot, and the way DFC and Skullgirls require you to be standing to tech is cool.
You're being a presumptuous jackass posting like you actually know my stance on the character being in the game.
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KidA Seven
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from kappa
Snax too fosho.
It's only been 3 weeks and we already haveYou mean these are the only competitors this week
rigged
I think it comes down to hit detection and footsies. It's just easier to read and translate in a 2D game when hits connect when there is only one plane of view.
3D fighters did take over the genre during the late 90's all the way up to the release of SF4.
I think the biggest reason why 2D fighters regained the crown from 3D fighters is that 3D fighters are more complex by default. That and the draw of a fighting game being in 3D lost its appeal because everyone was already so used to it. It wasnt the new kid on the block like how it was when Tekken 3 was selling like hotcakes.
ST, Alpha 2/3, and Yatagarasu
Any Street Fighter game really. Any fighting game focused on grounded footsies really.
Super TURBO
Good thing muliple studios exist
2D only fell off because the arcade tech outpaced consoles, leaving home players behind. 3D games are almost all 2D games with additional movement options anyway.
call_kotaku
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fuckin' called it, man
He said he might be able to talk about it during the summer. If it's a fighting game maybe evo?
Throw range in 5 seems really short, and tick throw setup seems worse than 4. I like this. In the ground game it seems like you have to walk up point blank range and make a hard read and go for the grab. After a jump-in you it looks like most jabs push out of grab range. I saw many people whiffing grabs in situations where tick throw setup would have worked in SF4, and in SF5 it looks like jump-in followed by throw is the better option.
If any future characters have a kara throw, that will be huge and make their pressure insane.
If any future characters have a kara throw, that will be huge and make their pressure insane.
give me Ken back with his kara throw so the salt can flow
call_kotaku
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I thought combo said Chun had a kara throw? maybe I'm misremembering
Maybe, but from what I've seen so far it looks like most non-command grabs have really short range.
I can't wait for the PC beta.
I agree. It's much cooler to do a "hard read" close range throw than a throw where I'm about two arm lengths from the opponent anyway.
I'd say the Ultimax throw range is about perfect for an anime fighter, but I don't think SF has ever had a throw system I've liked. ST throws are incredibly ridiculous, 3S kara throws are unbelievable, SF4 throws look visually deceptive and lead to oki bullshit. I guess Alpha series throws were cool?
Many people I've talked to that picked up fighters and asked why don't you play Tekken or VF they always tell me looks boring.
Looking at Tekken 7 the animations and style of game I don't appeals to new comers the game does not excite them. Last time I seen the casual gaming public mad mad hype over Tekken was Tekken 3.
Also, Namco has hard on to always put Tekken out on Arcades months, months, AND MONTHS before console that by the time it does come to console casual people don't give a fuck.
I'm calling it right now Tekken 7 is gonna sell like trash on next gen consoles it won't grow it's numbers by much you'll have the same old Tekken players buying the game and a few casual gamers but they are doing jack fucking shit to excite people that don't even play fighters to pick the game up.
Like I really enjoyed the 3 day event @E3 Namco held for Tekken 7 promoting it on twitch tv...oh wait they did not do jack shit.
Namco: How come these Capcom guys get so many casual players to get excited for this SFV?
Sega: Because their game is stupid easy and not super complex and arcade first like us HAHAHAHAHAHA. WE HAVE RESPECT AND HONOUR
Capcom & SONY: PRE-Orders are off the charts.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Like I really enjoyed the 3 day event @E3 Namco held for Tekken 7 promoting it on twitch tv...oh wait they did not do jack shit.
Namco: How come these Capcom guys get so many casual players to get excited for this SFV?
Sega: Because their game is stupid easy and not super complex and arcade first like us HAHAHAHAHAHA. WE HAVE RESPECT AND HONOUR
Capcom & SONY: PRE-Orders are off the charts.
holy cow did i walk into the smash thread
Master Thespian
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As guy who has loved 3d fighters in the past...2D games are better. Not inherently so, just as they are are currently constructed.
Advantages of 2D games:
- Classes of moves are easier to understand
- Use of vertical space
- Long range gameplay
- Faster
- Meter and various subsystems
- Stylized art
- Close range mix ups
- Sidestep
- Background interaction
- Camera shenanigans
Don't worry about him, he likes to say dumb things like "this guy who was a tester until February for a game that came out in April had an unfair advantage at a tournament in late May because he used secret techniques also used by a different player at a tournament in early May."
The Lone Dragon
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You're personal opinion on the matter wasn't really what was important to me.
I used your post as an opportunity to make a point to others, regardless of what you said or feel:
Just because Chun wasn't used a lot doesn't mean A) she wont be used in the future when people actually learn to play SF5, or B) that she's not popular.
We have lots of concrete proof of Chun's popularity in the fanbase. It's not really debatable at this point.