Fighting Games Weekly | Sept 23-29 | Beauty and the Beast

you guys do realize the interview/tutorial without the footage isnt new right? gootecks and others have done it before and it is still an informative format.
 
Oh nice - I think I'll actually drive the 20 minutes to NEC this year.
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Probably won't play any games but it'll be fun to troll.
 
LOVE MAX!!!!! won't be out for a while. Examu just started working on the console version. And if the trend is the trend it'll be a PS3 exclusive.

Phantom Breaker: Extra is region free on 360 Disc & DD! Now you know. And a easy 1000/Platnium if that's what your into.

Girl Fight may not be as bad as it looks. Maybe this changes after the demo finishes downloading.

And something about Gundam SEED Destiny on GBA,
 
LOVE MAX!!!!! won't be out for a while. Examu just started working on the console version. And if the trend is the trend it'll be a PS3 exclusive.

Phantom Breaker: Extra is region free on 360 Disc & DD! Now you know. And a easy 1000/Platnium if that's what your into.
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Still sucks AH3 came out for both systems everywhere except the US.

You expect PS3 player base to be stronger for Phantom Breaker Extra?
 
i proposed this 5 months ago and everyone here said it was dumb: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56836620
Read my post just a few spots down. I basically said that you had to do it MOBA style, do it all the way or not at all so I was sort of supportive to the idea especially for weeklies first. That said banning has its pros and cons which I detailed in my post.

People are definitely aware that the game's kinda both broken and stale.
This isn't a new concept or a new situation... people have been dealing with SF3 Chun Li or MVC2 Storm for DECADES. The difference is that now with stream monster and online information being so instant... games get figured out faster and people want to see different stuff. For most other games... this is not an issue because they can just patch the game and suddenly you will see different characters being played. UMVC3 is in a unique situation where licensing issues are preventing regular patches so we are stuck with the game that came out 2+ years ago.
 
Read my post just a few spots down. I basically said that you had to do it MOBA style, do it all the way or not at all so I was sort of supportive to the idea especially for weeklies first.


This isn't a new concept or a new situation... people have been dealing SF3 Chun Li or MVC2 Storm for DECADES. The difference is that now with stream monster and online information being so instant... games get figured out faster and people want to see different stuff. For most other games... this is not an issue because they can just patch the game and suddenly you will see different characters being played. UMVC3 is in a unique situation where licensing issues are preventing regular patches so we are stuck with the game that came out 2+ years ago.

People want something different NOW NOW NOW

nerf superman
 
Damn, that Flux douchebaggery PogChamp.


edit: If Capcom actually patched Marvel then we wouldn't need goddamn bans. It's a band-aid for a broken bone, it doesn't really work well.
 
bans do not belong in a fighting game. they don't belong anywhere actually

The whole point of competition is to beat the best, at their best.

You're mad someone keeps beating you, find a way to stop it. If not, go sit in a corner and shut the fuck up
 
LOVE MAX!!!!! won't be out for a while. Examu just started working on the console version. And if the trend is the trend it'll be a PS3 exclusive.

Phantom Breaker: Extra is region free on 360 Disc & DD! Now you know. And a easy 1000/Platnium if that's what your into.

Girl Fight may not be as bad as it looks. Maybe this changes after the demo finishes downloading.

And something about Gundam SEED Destiny on GBA,

http://examu.co.jp/chronicle/

Looks like they're starting work on a new Arcana Heart. It will be using the EF-12 engine mentioned a few weeks ago, and is abandoning sprites.

Hopefully Love Max hits PC.
 
People want something different NOW NOW NOW

nerf superman
Pretty much yeah. The Deathstrokes nerf were cringe worthy to read.. As if Deathstroke was destroying people in tourneys...

they don't belong anywhere actually
They definitely belong in the MOBAs though as the games are balanced around drafting (ie. DOTA 2 is balanced around Captain's Mode not All Pick).
 
bans do not belong in a fighting game. they don't belong anywhere actually

The whole point of competition is to beat the best, at their best.

You're mad someone keeps beating you, find a way to stop it. If not, go sit in a corner and shut the fuck up

You're right, we SHOULD unban ST Akuma.
 
Gill is also banned in SF3 (console).

I am pretty sure that if Vanilla MVC3 survived Phoenix would've been banned.

Hilde was banned in SC4 as was Algol IIRC. And of course the infamous Metaknight ban which was apparently rescinded.
 
But you said nothing should be banned.

Ok.. Obviously in extreme cases like ST Akuma there's an exception.

Also if you need bans (on normal characters. Not God-tier characters like ST Akuma/Gill/etc.) to make a game "interesting", it's not worth playing or watching in the first place. Maybe if Merca! wasn't so fixated on playing Capcpom games and only Capcpom games this wouldn't be an issue.
 
Have Sirlin patch in Rare Akuma then.

Genius.

Ok.. Obviously in extreme cases like ST Akuma there's an exception.

Also if you need bans (on normal characters. Not God-tier characters like ST Akuma/Gill/etc.) to make a game "interesting", it's not worth playing or watching in the first place. Maybe if Merca! wasn't so fixated on playing Capcpom games and only Capcpom games this wouldn't be an issue.

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This post is fascinating. By your own admission then, ST isn't worth playing/watching. Shin Akuma is a normally selectable character that has a lot over the rest of the cast and isn't just an insta-win button. People just respect the idea that he shouldn't be played because of how IMBA he makes things.

Mind you I'm not advocating for Marvel or any other game but the hoops you have to jump through to make that first amendment then the following statement are too real.
 
People would just put Dante everywhere then
People would've put Dante every where even if Phoenix was unbanned because he built like 3-4 meter in a combo, perfect for Phoenix. Just slap Haggar with him and you have the best team in the game.

The reason Phoenix would've been banned was because she changed the way the game was played completely. Not to mention 60% of the characters couldn't even touch regular Jean thanks to saltu balls. The absurd meter gain and lack of other top anchors to counter (and lack of meter removal technology) made her the obvious best in the game.

In every precedence of character bans in FGs before, Phoenix qualified for it.
 
Ok.. Obviously in extreme cases like ST Akuma there's an exception.

Also if you need bans (on normal characters. Not God-tier characters like ST Akuma/Gill/etc.) to make a game "interesting", it's not worth playing or watching in the first place. Maybe if Merca! wasn't so fixated on playing Capcpom games and only Capcpom games this wouldn't be an issue.

hilde in sc4 says hi.

France has also viola banned.
 
Ok.. Obviously in extreme cases like ST Akuma there's an exception.

Also if you need bans (on normal characters. Not God-tier characters like ST Akuma/Gill/etc.) to make a game "interesting", it's not worth playing or watching in the first place. Maybe if Merca! wasn't so fixated on playing Capcpom games and only Capcpom games this wouldn't be an issue.

Japan has used ratios or specifications for tourneys much more than America.
 
Still sucks AH3 came out for both systems everywhere except the US.

You expect PS3 player base to be stronger for Phantom Breaker Extra?

At least it came out. That'll have to do.

The base for Extra I'm not really sure about. The original PB was a 360 exclusive but let the trend tell it and the PS3 will be where the people are. For the next week.

http://examu.co.jp/chronicle/

Looks like they're starting work on a new Arcana Heart. It will be using the EF-12 engine mentioned a few weeks ago, and is abandoning sprites.

Hopefully Love Max hits PC.

I don't think that's what that is. I just think Heart being there is nothing more than a proof of concept of what EF-12 can do. From the video I saw of EF-12 in action is that Arcana Heart wouldn't be nothing like itself unless the case is like KoF: MI where experimenting with 3D is a side thing and not the future of the core franchise.

With EF-12 though it may be time for that Arcana Heart X BlazBlue X Daemon Bride game that was an April Fools joke some years ago. Or hell, just Daemon Bride. Still surprised that Examu hasn't released Additional Gain by now.
 
Can you expand on this with examples?

At EVO, the ST team tourney was ratio based. So for example, you have 7 points.

Ryu would be worth 4. Ken 4. Honda 2. Chun 3. DeeJay 2.

So you can have a team of Ken/Honda/DeeJay. Total of 7 points. A team of Honda/Chun/DeeJay would be 7 points. You cannot do Ken/Ryu/Honda as they add up to 10.

Back in the arcade vs console days, there were lots of arguments in regards to console exclusive chars. Basically chars that are in the home version but not in the arcade. Sometimes they were banned because the arcade didn't have them.
 
Can you expand on this with examples?
Most recent example would be KoF XIII (vanilla arcade).
In order for people to not just throw K' on every team, they had a ratio system for many tourneys for the sake of variety.
Top and high tier were good, but nothing like a Marvel game.
 
bans do not belong in a fighting game. they don't belong anywhere actually

The whole point of competition is to beat the best, at their best.

You're mad someone keeps beating you, find a way to stop it. If not, go sit in a corner and shut the fuck up

In some cases, I agree with you.

In other cases, Petshop.
 
bans do not belong in a fighting game. they don't belong anywhere actually

The whole point of competition is to beat the best, at their best.

You're mad someone keeps beating you, find a way to stop it. If not, go sit in a corner and shut the fuck up


Are people really that afraid of becoming the new smash? lol
 
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