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TM farming survived the night, wooo! Hopefully it will still be running when I get home later tonight which would be some awesome TM progress if so. I haven't used the trust moogle from the current event yet, was going to throw it at Excalibur but now I'm thinking I'll wait and see how far along it gets on it's own by the time another particularly challenging boss comes along because it'd be nice if it could just finish naturally and I could throw this and the one we'll get on the 28th for logging in on someone else for a quick 20% jump. I'll have to do the math to see if Sakarafabuki or Chiji with Blade Mastery would increase my attack more so I know whether to throw the moogles at Sakara or BM.

Finally finished going back through all the old story missions, phew. Now I can just simply do the new stages as they are released and boy was it nice to get a large lapis boost after spending the farm on Noctis. I think I'm back in the 13k range atm plus should be back up in the upper twenties in tickets I'd think. I should have a nice stockpile saved back up by the time the FFX banner hits as I don't think there will be any other banners worth pulling on before then unless we get the player's choice but I'd think that won't happen before Orlandu and hopefully Tidus hits. It'd be nice to have one with Orlandu and Tidus both in the lineup.

I also knocked out all the side quests that were in my queue including the Charlotte quest so I guess besides dailies, arena, and TM farming, I might as well start magicite farming to get those espers maxed. I need to max out Chorizo's level also so I can get her in the lineup but might just wait for the next dunes as there's no rush unless a brutal trial comes. From what I've looked up, seems like Phantom Forest is still the way to go for magicite farming. Yipee.... ;p


Chrono, what's your favorite FF game? Is there a banner you're really looking forward to based solely off of the characters? If all else failed, I'd still be pining for the FFVIII banner.
 

chrono01

Member
Chrono, what's your favorite FF game? Is there a banner you're really looking forward to based solely off of the characters? If all else failed, I'd still be pining for the FFVIII banner.
The first Final Fantasy game I finished, from start-to-finish, was Final Fantasy VII. I played a bit of Final Fantasy VI (which, as you know, was Final Fantasy III in NA) growing up, but for some reason or another (don't know why), I never finished it. As for my favorite, that's really difficult to settle on, I like so many. :/

If they ever did a Chrono Trigger event gatcha though...no joke, I'd re-roll until I got Crono/Chrono (or whatever the base 5* is/was), as well as all of the other supporting characters. Nothing would stop me.
 
Thanks, this means a lot.

I'd never deprive another of a 5* just so I could have one, though. My conscience could never allow it. No, we must both get Orlandu, as well as everyone else here who tries for him. Let us settle for nothing less!

Really hoping the rng gods shine upon you for Orlandu! I know its all rng and shit but FFS let the man get a good 5*. We already lost one, we cant lose another.
 

Muku

Member
The first Final Fantasy game I finished, from start-to-finish, was Final Fantasy VII. I played a bit of Final Fantasy VI (which, as you know, was Final Fantasy III in NA) growing up, but for some reason or another (don't know why), I never finished it. As for my favorite, that's really difficult to settle on, I like so many. :/

If they ever did a Chrono Trigger event gatcha though...no joke, I'd re-roll until I got Crono/Chrono (or whatever the base 5* is/was), as well as all of the other supporting characters. Nothing would stop me.


Oooooh ssshhiiiit. Don't even get me started. If they did a CT cross over, I would pull so hard for both Crono and Frog. I would do whatever it took for Frog specifically. There would be no prisoners.
 
Oooooh ssshhiiiit. Don't even get me started. If they did a CT cross over, I would pull so hard for both Crono and Frog. I would do whatever it took for Frog specifically. There would be no prisoners.

You know Gumi would find some way to fuck it up, though. The first batch wouldn't be Crono and Frog. It'd be Gato and Jonny, with a 5* Tata.
 

Muku

Member
You know Gumi would find some way to fuck it up, though. The first batch wouldn't be Crono and Frog. It'd be Gato and Jonny, with a 5* Tata.

Then they wouldn't give us the second half citing "The Chrono Trigger banner didn't seem to cause much excitement so..." And then I would rage my way over to Gumi HQ.
 

tuffymon

Member
The first Final Fantasy game I finished, from start-to-finish, was Final Fantasy VII. I played a bit of Final Fantasy VI (which, as you know, was Final Fantasy III in NA) growing up, but for some reason or another (don't know why), I never finished it. As for my favorite, that's really difficult to settle on, I like so many. :/

If they ever did a Chrono Trigger event gatcha though...no joke, I'd re-roll until I got Crono/Chrono (or whatever the base 5* is/was), as well as all of the other supporting characters. Nothing would stop me.

Incoming 5 star Lavos... lol
 

Alkez

Member
Watching people mass pull is disheartening sometimes. It's one thing to not get the banner 5*. It's another thing to just not get a rainbow at all. I've got enough to do 7 11-pulls. It's scares me that I could get jack all from that.
 

Muku

Member
Watching people mass pull is disheartening sometimes. It's one thing to not get the banner 5*. It's another thing to just not get a rainbow at all. I've got enough to do 7 11-pulls. It's scares me that I could get jack all from that.

And sad thing is you may not even get Golds. :/

Just did three ticket pulls for jollies.

- Bedile (go DIAF plz)
- Krile (plz also go DIAF)
- Locke

The Locke is my fourth. Bwa haha. Saved all. Now to get Rising Suns for both of my capped 6* CoD's.
 

Celegus

Member
Watching people mass pull is disheartening sometimes. It's one thing to not get the banner 5*. It's another thing to just not get a rainbow at all. I've got enough to do 7 11-pulls. It's scares me that I could get jack all from that.

It's pretty depressing. I set my limit to how much lapis / tickets I'll use on the first day of the banner and stick to it. If it doesn't happen in that limit, too bad so sad try again next time.
 

mstevens

Member
So I've been going along in the story just fine but I just hit the village of Ambel where you have to fight Veritas. Apparently I'm really underleveled or something because I do like no damage to him and I can't use any friend characters on him. What's my next step.. Just go level a bunch?

Any better way to level at this point in the game than the chamber of experience adv?
 

Ken

Member
So I've been going along in the story just fine but I just hit the village of Ambel where you have to fight Veritas. Apparently I'm really underleveled or something because I do like no damage to him and I can't use any friend characters on him. What's my next step.. Just go level a bunch?

yeah. there are some pretty crazy difficulty spikes in the story imo
 

Muku

Member
Yeah, if you aren't really leveling, some of the story fights can be a pain. I'd also recommend taking a look at your gear. Can you craft something better than you are currently wearing? Or is there something better at the store?
 
Damn Hippo. Who or what did you sacrifice to get that kind of luck lol? Dark Fina, Luka, Zidane, double Miyuki, and Ludmille all in 1 11 pull. That's crazy. Congrats dude.

Thanks Lol I sacrificed my pull luck in Brave Frontier/Tales of Link and FFRK for FFBE....which I am fine with :).
 

mstevens

Member
Yeah, if you aren't really leveling, some of the story fights can be a pain. I'd also recommend taking a look at your gear. Can you craft something better than you are currently wearing? Or is there something better at the store?

I haven't grinded at all. Pretty much just putting all NRG toward the story besides daily stuff.

Rank 4 Agris is 36
Rank 5 Noctis is 59
Rank 3 Zidane is 32
Rank 3 Exdeath is 35
Rank 4 Rosa is 35

They all have either gear from the last town or from events.

I don't mind going and grinding levels for a few days. I heard that exploration is the most efficient way to do it. Anyone know of a good map at this point in the game and a resource that will tell me how many battles to cap the xp there?
 

Muku

Member
I haven't grinded at all. Pretty much just putting all NRG toward the story besides daily stuff.

Rank 4 Agris is 36
Rank 5 Noctis is 59
Rank 3 Zidane is 32
Rank 3 Exdeath is 35
Rank 4 Rosa is 35

They all have either gear from the last town or from events.

I don't mind going and grinding levels for a few days. I heard that exploration is the most efficient way to do it. Anyone know of a good map at this point in the game and a resource that will tell me how many battles to cap the xp there?

I did some early exploration grinding initially which was great. Ended up being a two fold thing that I didn't realize until later. Good on the EXP, but I also ended up with a lot of shards for my Espers.

Exvius Wiki - Not sure of good one NRG vs EXP at this point since I haven't done that in a while. But if you go to the Explorations page it tells you the zones and what info you need before going into next zone to maximize your EXP in there.
 

Syrus

Banned
I said yolo and used 12 tickets , all of mine.

Im happy as hell.

2 more elles , so i got 4 to farm two TM
Celes - minerva buster is great!
Ludmille - i have 2 now. Will probably use them for just one dual cast.
Lani - dat equip axe for mercedes tm
Medius - gotta get dat Egg
Amarant - have two , may merge for one TM

Rest was trash lol


Its sad but really miss not getting Lunas , would love 2 more
 

Muku

Member
I haven't grinded at all. Pretty much just putting all NRG toward the story besides daily stuff.

Rank 4 Agris is 36
Rank 5 Noctis is 59
Rank 3 Zidane is 32
Rank 3 Exdeath is 35
Rank 4 Rosa is 35

They all have either gear from the last town or from events.

I don't mind going and grinding levels for a few days. I heard that exploration is the most efficient way to do it. Anyone know of a good map at this point in the game and a resource that will tell me how many battles to cap the xp there?

I am curious as well, do you do any of the Colosseum stuff too? At higher end, once you work through it to go up ranks, you start getting pieces of gear for completing things and all. Also get some things to put in ability slots, like ATK 10% and all.

Colosseum Info
 

mstevens

Member
I am curious as well, do you do any of the Colosseum stuff too? At higher end, once you work through it to go up ranks, you start getting pieces of gear for completing things and all. Also get some things to put in ability slots, like ATK 10% and all.

Colosseum Info

Yeah I've been doing all of my orbs each day for colosseum. I think I'm up to A rank BEG

I think a lot of it is just being underleveled. Just been plowing through the story with overpowered friend units.
 

Muku

Member
Yeah I've been doing all of my orbs each day for colosseum. I think I'm up to A rank BEG

I think a lot of it is just being underleveled. Just been plowing through the story with overpowered friend units.

That'll do it. XD I didn't have that in very beginning, just a few friends. But now they're way overpowered. I'm weird in beginning of RPGs though too. I'll go grind a bit so stuff isn't ridiculous, which is probably what I did here too.

Edit: Also, thinking about it, I had two 5* right off the bat. First two pulls was rainbow Garland and rainbow Kuja. So that probably had some help as well.
 
The first Final Fantasy game I finished, from start-to-finish, was Final Fantasy VII. I played a bit of Final Fantasy VI (which, as you know, was Final Fantasy III in NA) growing up, but for some reason or another (don't know why), I never finished it. As for my favorite, that's really difficult to settle on, I like so many. :/

If they ever did a Chrono Trigger event gatcha though...no joke, I'd re-roll until I got Crono/Chrono (or whatever the base 5* is/was), as well as all of the other supporting characters. Nothing would stop me.

I figured as much with CT ;p So no clear favorite FF, eh? How about characters? Any absolute stand outs that you'd want regardless how good they are in FFBE? It's going to be a straight up party in here when you finally get a 5* base. No joke.
 

Muku

Member
I figured as much with CT ;p So no clear favorite FF, eh? How about characters? Any absolute stand outs that you'd want regardless how good they are in FFBE? It's going to be a straight up party in here when you finally get a 5* base. No joke.

I think we would have a party for real. Our sacrifice will be Tillith as well. Maybe if we do it right we can bring our fallen comrade back as well.
 

Lyrian

Member
So...... who wants to discuss controversial subjective ratings?

I know that's what Exvius-GAF **loves** to discussion, especially when it revolves around TMRs.


Using newly created subjective assumptions to create objective ratings, Exvius-Wiki has completely re-rated all of the TMRs on Global.

Link to New Ratings Page

Your NEW Top 10 TMRs to farm (under the new rating system):
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1) Genji Glove (Gilgamesh, Rating 12)
2) Dual Wield (Zidane, Rating 11)
3) Dual Cast (Ludmille, Rating 9.5)
4) Ice Rosetta (WK Noel, Rating 9, no longer available)

T-5) Deathbringer (DK Cecil, Rating 8.5)
T-5) Magistal Crest (Vanille, Rating 8.5)

T-7) Asha's Talisman (Elle, Rating 8) <--- Currently ON banner this week, 3* base
T-7) All ATK 100+ TMR weapons with an element (Excalibur, Viking Axe, Moonblade, Demon Scythe)
T-7) Champion Belt (Snow)
T-7) Blade Mastery (Chizuru)

<All other TMRs rated at 7.5 or lower>

Notable TMRs that missed the cut:
------------------------------------------------

Ring of the Lucii
Power of Creation
Any non-elemental ATK 100+ TMR weapon (ex: Save the Queen)
Any top-tier mage TMRs outside of Dual Cast(ex: Omnirod, Lordly Robe, MAG + 30%)
All other 5* base TMRs (Brave Suit, Celestial Gloves)
HP +30%
Doublehand (even for 6* Garland)
Bracer


Popcorn, anyone?
 

chrono01

Member
Really hoping the rng gods shine upon you for Orlandu! I know its all rng and shit but FFS let the man get a good 5*. We already lost one, we cant lose another.
Thanks man, here's hoping!

Oooooh ssshhiiiit. Don't even get me started. If they did a CT cross over, I would pull so hard for both Crono and Frog. I would do whatever it took for Frog specifically. There would be no prisoners.
Same here. Imagine if they made it so those characters (in particular) had shared Limit Breaks for additional damage/effects. Having Crono/Chrono + Frog use X-Strike...

OH MAN!

You know Gumi would find some way to fuck it up, though. The first batch wouldn't be Crono and Frog. It'd be Gato and Jonny, with a 5* Tata.
I'd probably still take em'.

Incoming 5 star Lavos... lol
His Limit Break would literally end the world.

I figured as much with CT ;p So no clear favorite FF, eh? How about characters? Any absolute stand outs that you'd want regardless how good they are in FFBE? It's going to be a straight up party in here when you finally get a 5* base. No joke.
I mean, of the ones that haven't been released yet, I guess it's Cloud. I know, stereotypical answer given by many, but as mentioned FFVII was the first title in the series I played to completion, so it kind of holds a special place in my heart. Given that his 5* base hasn't even been announced yet (or 6* base, given his popularity), I'm not holding my breath for him, haha.

I also really like Vivi. It's a damn shame what they did to him in this game. :mad:
 

Valentus

Member
Brave suit 7.5
Blade mastery 8.0

I just dont care about this. The Guy are just doing it for baitclick.

Im just feeling sad that when a New player ask for advice, more than one here Will put the link of "that" thing.
 

robotuw

Member
So...... who wants to discuss controversial subjective ratings?

I know that's what Exvius-GAF **loves** to discussion, especially when it revolves around TMRs.


Using newly created subjective assumptions to create objective ratings, Exvius-Wiki has completely re-rated all of the TMRs on Global.

Link to New Ratings Page

Your NEW Top 10 TMRs to farm (under the new rating system):
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1) Genji Glove (Gilgamesh, Rating 12)
2) Dual Wield (Zidane, Rating 11)
3) Dual Cast (Ludmille, Rating 9.5)
4) Ice Rosetta (WK Noel, Rating 9, no longer available)

T-5) Deathbringer (DK Cecil, Rating 8.5)
T-5) Magistal Crest (Vanille, Rating 8.5)

T-7) Asha's Talisman (Elle, Rating 8) <--- Currently ON banner this week, 3* base
T-7) All ATK 100+ TMR weapons with an element (Excalibur, Viking Axe, Moonblade, Demon Scythe)
T-7) Champion Belt (Snow)
T-7) Blade Mastery (Chizuru)

<All other TMRs rated at 7.5 or lower>

Notable TMRs that missed the cut:
------------------------------------------------

Ring of the Lucii
Power of Creation
Any non-elemental ATK 100+ TMR weapon (ex: Save the Queen)
Any top-tier mage TMRs outside of Dual Cast(ex: Omnirod, Lordly Robe, MAG + 30%)
All other 5* base TMRs (Brave Suit, Celestial Gloves)
HP +30%
Doublehand (even for 6* Garland)
Bracer


Popcorn, anyone?

Rating all the TM's on one axis is kind-of a fool's errand, regardless of how the final ordering ends up. That said, I'm not sure how else they could do it. Create groups of TM's that go together? So you have the "ultimate physical set", the "ultimate mage set", the "ultimate healer set" etc. That still doesn't easily answer the question most people go to the page with, which is "I just got some dude, his TM any good?" I assume that's what they are trying to target with the ratings as they are now. Good luck to them, it's a thankless job.
 
That'll do it. XD I didn't have that in very beginning, just a few friends. But now they're way overpowered. I'm weird in beginning of RPGs though too. I'll go grind a bit so stuff isn't ridiculous, which is probably what I did here too.

Edit: Also, thinking about it, I had two 5* right off the bat. First two pulls was rainbow Garland and rainbow Kuja. So that probably had some help as well.

I wish we could see pull history. So, since we're in a lull, let's chronicle our pull history!

I'll lead with this:

Alkez said:
It's weird that I when I read your posts it's in Keanu's voice in my head lol.

Whoa.

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After launch, was originally planning on rerolling, because I had a fairly shitty team starting out. Initially, I had NO physical attackers. Remember, this is back when people were rerolling for Vaan.

I started with Kefka, Golbez, Zidane (!), Cecil (!), Terra, Rydia, Krile, and Kain. And I remember thinking the game was only giving me protagonists and antagonists -- Terra/Kefka, Cecil/Golbez, and after I drew Warrior of Light, I kept waiting for a 3* Garland, which happened months later. I remember getting Lenna; she was a clear upgrade. So was Exdeath.

And this choice quote:

Me said:
[FFT Event] PRO down with a team of Celes, Golbez, Tellah, Exdeath, Kefka, and Kefka. The Loffrey in the 5th battle just didn't die, but I rode out the last round with the Kefkas doing Hyperdrives.

Apparently I got balls-deep drunk after the first Presidential debate, which caused me to do an 11-pull for Ramza. (And yet, I had the temperament to stop there, so I'm a functioning drunk.) And around that timeframe, as the country turned to shit, I somehow got Lightning. I don't remember,
except my best pulls are in the bathroom
. Yeah, it's a superstition now.

As far back as October, my team was "pure" and things were challenging. I baked Mogcakes in airports in China and in my hotel in South Korea as I attended a friend's wedding, where actual human people dressed up like dragons and beat drums. Despite being shit-tier devs, I was uniformly impressed with how FFBE can run on slow data connections. (I couldn't play Record Keeper except in my hotel with wifi.) This is back when Ramza was my MVP.
Miss you, bro.

Around this time, we had this, on November 6:

Chrono said:
I figured it couldn't get worse after yesterday, did a daily summon anyway (despite only having 3,000 Lapis).

Shadow.

Holy. fuck. Gumi.

END THIS MAN'S SUFFERING.

I'm now wondering two things. Why don't gacha games have some kind of "pity counter" that try to keep people hooked? It makes business sense! Also, I understand the rationale behind not gifting units, but why can't we donate lapis? Anyway, the FF3 event!

Me said:
Well, Xande wiped the floor with me thanks to Quake. I should probably think things through rather than brute forcing it.

Lightning, Ramza, WoL, Celes, Kekfa + Lightning/CoD isn't cutting it. It's rather humbling, to be honest!

I just got my Luneth to 6*, so he's useless for now, and Refia's 14 Sacred Crystals away from reaching 5*. My Cecils are 5* max and 3* grinding, respectively, so they're not realistically an option.

Will sub Lenna in for Celes and see if healing actually makes a difference. This could be her swan song. If I use a CoD with Omniveil, then I should be good.

I eventually triumphed. Then Gumi predictably shat the bed, Chrono pulled a Tilith, and Xande was bugged for a week and had like 800 hp, so everyone else triumphed too. Cue 8 hours of scheduled maintenance and 14 hours of unscheduled maintenance fixing the scheduled maintenance.

Then this happened:

DrROBschiz said:
Put... Counter... On your tanks guys

:)

An actual strategy! For the Maxwell fight! Doing something different! Thanks to this piece of sage advice, which I probably wouldn't have discovered myself, I obtained that 5* monstrosity of a Maxwell that looks svelte only next to White Knight Noel, who can go fuck himself for all eternities because he should've been Christmas Tree Exdeath.

This is still my most favorite thing about the game, next to Rain commenting on the sheer absurdity of the FFXIII plot.

Around here, I was fucking around at work (as one does) and pulled a Greg on a Daily Summon on the first day of the FFV banner.

Me said:
... daily Gold to Rainbow. Greg (!!). I'm at work (no one's here) and I nearly shouted like crazy. First and last pull on this banner!

Ordinarily, you'd be utterly jealous, right? Well, maybe there is a built-in pity counter, because this was right after (drunkenly) whaling for Elza and I don't even know why now over Thanksgiving, because I didn't have anywhere to go. (I didn't post about that. Maybe I should've!) Let's humanize our pulls! We're all friends here.

December was basically a repeat of November: playing a lot at work because apparently it's an entire month-long holiday for people in the federal government. Over Christmas, because (again) I was spending it alone and because my sole Christmas present purchase was a $10 book entitled Men with Cats for my best friend Heather (which featured pictures of men with cats), I probably spent $200 for Noctis, then dropped another $300 for a PS4 Slim and FFXV.

Now, here we are. My computer is slaying millions of Dire Rats. I enjoy multiplayer in Record Keeper, I miss Ramza, and I have managed not to drop 50 tickets for Dark Fina.

How has your journey progressed?
 

tuffymon

Member
Everyone will have different opinions on what is the top 10 best Tm's. Some I agree with, some I don't, but I don't run the site.

Did I miss/not see Dark Fina's listed on the page yet?

After reading the ^ post, sometimes I wonder if there is such a thing as a pity pull. I know having a new buddy join the game that has the craziest of luck, I wish he'd make pull videos especially with now having spent money... I think he's around $500 and has at LEAST 15 5 star bases (Like for real, make his own raid party), he started playing the first week of November. Hearing someone have that sorta luck, buddy or not makes you demoralized about your own pulls. I know I've personally avoided the forums (as great as they are), for the exact reason. That doesn't mean I'm not happy or excited hearing others 5 star / Tm progress though. I had a crazy string of luck during the Noctis banner, Pulled Greg first day I believe on a 10+1, but than pulled Noctis on a ticket the last day. It's crazy how things can flip so quick, and I truly hope everyone gets to have their moment to shine (for some, sooner than later) T.T

Thanks to Bonkeng's Noctis, I easily smashed DF, giving me a sweet pair o Genji Gloves.
 

Muku

Member
Thanks man, here's hoping!


Same here. Imagine if they made it so those characters (in particular) had shared Limit Breaks for additional damage/effects. Having Crono/Chrono + Frog use X-Strike...

OH MAN!


I'd probably still take em'.


His Limit Break would literally end the world.


I mean, of the ones that haven't been released yet, I guess it's Cloud. I know, stereotypical answer given by many, but as mentioned FFVII was the first title in the series I played to completion, so it kind of holds a special place in my heart. Given that his 5* base hasn't even been announced yet (or 6* base, given his popularity), I'm not holding my breath for him, haha.

I also really like Vivi. It's a damn shame what they did to him in this game. :mad:


1. OH GOD THE COMBOSSSSSSSSSSSS! Okay, this has to happen now. Knowing my luck I'd pull one off CT banner while game spits in my face and laughs how I couldn't combo.

2. Vivi was shat on. As was the whole crew of FF9. Have they no compassion?! FF9... why do they hate you so? They took you to the dumpster out back, threw shit on you, added some gasoline, then lit you on fire. Whyyyyyyyy... ;_;
 

Celegus

Member
Crap, 245 xp until I rank up and I have 0 energy. Anyone know the lowest amount of energy to get 250 xp? Already did all my daily quests and turned them in.
 

Muku

Member
Crap, 245 xp until I rank up and I have 0 energy. Anyone know the lowest amount of energy to get 250 xp? Already did all my daily quests and turned them in.

Laz Highlands Exploration is like 281 for 10 NRG.

Wolfsgang Exploration is 300 or so for 11 NRG.

Lanz Ruins Basement Lv 1 is 248 for 10 NRG. Lv 2 is 252 for 10 NRG.

So looks like around 10 NRG.
 

Lyrian

Member
Brave suit 7.5
Blade mastery 8.0

I just dont care about this. The Guy are just doing it for baitclick.

Im just feeling sad that when a New player ask for advice, more than one here Will put the link of "that" thing.

Rating all the TM's on one axis is kind-of a fool's errand, regardless of how the final ordering ends up. That said, I'm not sure how else they could do it. Create groups of TM's that go together? So you have the "ultimate physical set", the "ultimate mage set", the "ultimate healer set" etc. That still doesn't easily answer the question most people go to the page with, which is "I just got some dude, his TM any good?" I assume that's what they are trying to target with the ratings as they are now. Good luck to them, it's a thankless job.

Everyone will have different opinions on what is the top 10 best Tm's. Some I agree with, some I don't, but I don't run the site.

Did I miss/not see Dark Fina's listed on the page yet?

Yup. Some of the ratings make very little sense at all. For example, many would consider Miyuki's katana to be a key TM farm for a physical unit at the moment. Yet, it is rated horribly under the new system. This is what happens (as correctly noted by robotuw) when everything is reduced to an one-dimensional formula.

For example, how many here would actually argue that Asha's Talisman is superior to Power of Creation (which is strangely rated the same as MAG +30%)? Doubtful, anyone. But that is what happens when the numbers are coldly assessed in a vaccum without context.

Still, I can see a lot of headaches forming in the future over this list in the future.

And yes, tuffymon, I didn't see Dark Fina's TM listed anywhere on the list yet. An accidental omission (Luka's TM is missing as well from the list)?
 

Celegus

Member
Laz Highlands Exploration is like 281 for 10 NRG.

Wolfsgang Exploration is 300 or so for 11 NRG.

Lanz Ruins Basement Lv 1 is 248 for 10 NRG. Lv 2 is 252 for 10 NRG.

So looks like around 10 NRG.
Dang, that's getting a little late for me. Ah well, guess I'll wait till morning.
why not just do alluring peaks at 11 nrg for 500?

I usually go to bed in half an hour :(

Edit: Looks like Electric Tower in the newest area will get me there for 7.
 

NomarTyme

Member
I've been thinking about the Gilgamesh trial team setup. I know that we won't probably get this trial for a long while.


Rain - Covers Fire and Earth with Ground Lava
Firion - Dual Wield - Water axe and wind fist
Refia - heal, dispel, and revive
WoL - For Breaking/debuffing and provoking. May gave him the Safety bit(Death proof)
OP companion - Most likely going to be Orlandu with Excalibur of course.

Look like I cover all 5 elements.

Doing 5 people only for the 30 % attack material.

This sounds good in my head.....
 

Lyrian

Member
I have 6600 lapis and 30 tickets. Anyone wanna guess what the next couple banners are?

Well... Let's see....

The next event on Friday should be a Mog King event, so the next one the list should be FF Zero, Collab 1.

1/13 FF Zero Mog King
1/20 Ariana Grande One-off Exploration or however she going to be handled?

Afterwards, gets shaky quick.

1/27 EITHER

1) FF Zero, Collab 2 (Why, though??? Gumi could completely mix the 2 collabs for Global as in Collab 1 there is only 1 unit that can reach 6*, which is very bad)

2) FF Tactics, Collab 2 (Orlandu banner).


2/3 FF2 Exploration (Emperor, Chilly plz)


Or, as always, Gumi could throw a Global curveball at any time.
 

Doctor_No

Member
Personally scared that they are going to make Ariana super strong and I'm going to be tempted to spend a lot of laips to get her. I'm sure the devs know that they are not going to get another high-profile collab (that will get this level of attention) like this for awhile.

Unless they plan on making her a free unit, there is serious incentive to maker her strong.
 

NomarTyme

Member
I really think Ariana is going to be free unit like Maxwell. Hopefully she has a great TM like Maxwell too. I don't see Ariana being a 5 star base character.
 
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