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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT3| A How To Guide Of Pulling Out To Avoid Bediles
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Nope. His TM is situationally useful, but he's a garbage pile character.
Shouta
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It's single player but the rest of the game is a gatcha game. I'm talking about more standard game. =P
New Bahamut's Garden is not fucking around. These regular enemies hit like trucks.
I see. I'll remove him from my secondary party. I'll level up Luneth. He is currently lvl 71/80. So when I awaken him to raise his level, I'll just use items to do so right?
Broseybrose
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If Luneth is in your party, just click on him on the unit screen and choose awaken. You wont be able to actually awaken him until hes 80/80, but itll show the mats youll need to do it.
It's kinda fun, I put it on my Charlotte for arena matches and while not amazing~ This is what I CAN tell you. No +Mag or pots does about 300-350 to all targets (its like 2k outside of arena). The activation of Holy can happen MULTIPLE times, while overall low dmg 90-100~ 40 mp back for each trigger was pretty cool. Maybe its hard to see, but I don't recall having seen the third effect (dmg reduction) going off... hard to notice when multiples hit her. Lastly, Alterna looks awesome.
Nothing super fancy in my recording, but https://gfycat.com/WealthyIllDuckling
This Bahamut Garden exploration map is starting to really get on my nerves. It's one thing to make encounters difficult and challenging yet it's completely another when they make it cheap and unfair to stall player progress.
The encounter rate is easily twice as high as your normal exploration and abilities that normally reduce encounter rate seems to have zero effect. Enemies can ambush you on this map and have a variety of ways to wipe your entire party before you even get to act.
End game dungeons should not be like this. The design is pure sadism.
On the other hand, Bahamut itself does 10k dmg with Megaflare. It can only be migitated to non-fatal level by breaking his MAG by over 60% (only Ramza and Delita seems to be able to) on top of using barrier skills (my Rikku rendered semi-useless coz her barrier skill takes 2 turns to be usable). I think this limits the viable choice of characters to even fewer than it was for Aigairon.
edit: I forgot to rant about the fact that I have taken on this mission about 10 times already and have only seen the shadow of Bahamut exactly once. Killed it and didn't even drop a rat's tail for me. Guess the designers really don't want us to beat this boss so soon
At least I could use resets to save my tail...
The encounter rate is easily twice as high as your normal exploration and abilities that normally reduce encounter rate seems to have zero effect. Enemies can ambush you on this map and have a variety of ways to wipe your entire party before you even get to act.
End game dungeons should not be like this. The design is pure sadism.
On the other hand, Bahamut itself does 10k dmg with Megaflare. It can only be migitated to non-fatal level by breaking his MAG by over 60% (only Ramza and Delita seems to be able to) on top of using barrier skills (my Rikku rendered semi-useless coz her barrier skill takes 2 turns to be usable). I think this limits the viable choice of characters to even fewer than it was for Aigairon.
edit: I forgot to rant about the fact that I have taken on this mission about 10 times already and have only seen the shadow of Bahamut exactly once. Killed it and didn't even drop a rat's tail for me. Guess the designers really don't want us to beat this boss so soon
At least I could use resets to save my tail...Advocatus Diaboli
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I'll get it eventually. Guessing I'll stick it on Refia to give her some more offensive/mitigation options, or Lightning since she's hybrid. It's in my TM party, but... after I clean out some of my 5x copies like Xiao.
Shouta
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This Bahamut Garden exploration map is starting to really get on my nerves. It's one thing to make encounters difficult and challenging yet it's completely another when they make it cheap and unfair to stall player progress.
The encounter rate is easily twice as high as your normal exploration and abilities that normally reduce encounter rate seems to have zero effect. Enemies can ambush you on this map and have a variety of ways to wipe your entire party before you even get to act.
End game dungeons should not be like this. The design is pure sadism.
On the other hand, Bahamut itself does 10k dmg with Megaflare. It can only be migitated to non-fatal level by breaking his MAG by over 60% (only Ramza and Delita seems to be able to) on top of using barrier skills (my Rikku rendered semi-useless coz her barrier skill takes 2 turns to be usable). I think this limits the viable choice of characters to even fewer than it was for Aigairon.
edit: I forgot to rant about the fact that I have taken on this mission about 10 times already and have only seen the shadow of Bahamut exactly once. Killed it and didn't even drop a rat's tail for me. Guess the designers really don't want us to beat this boss so soon
Yeah, this dungeon is really stupid. I hope they patch this down the line because it's just silly. I like the concept but the execution is really sloppy. It's been easier just to do Tonzura with Rikku to avoid all the battles as I go. It doesn't cover when the enemy gets the advantage but oh well. I think they also patched the Stop trick a few hours ago which sucks.
Yeah Tonzura is the only way to make it a bit less painful. Ambush rate is really high tho (im guessing 30%?) and on some maps its REALLY easy to get ambushed and then a game over. I'm really dreading to having to farm for rat's tail
I saw the youtuber Misoshiru defeat Bahamut by just stopping it over and over, which is stupid and makes the fight unfun, but perhaps it's for the better so you don't have to suffer the pain. They just announced it as a bug - don't think they fixed it yet??
I think my Rikku can actually be useful if she could survive after the first Megaflare as I just tested that her Alchemy skill remains active even after being dispelled, so I can hopefully cast her barrier right as Megaflare count reaches 1. Will try later.
BTW I just put up my Beefed up Ramza with Mindbreak+2 as a friend unit, hope you and others find it useful!
Shouta
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Yeah Tonzura is the only way to make it a bit less painful. Ambush rate is really high tho (im guessing 30%?) and on some maps its REALLY easy to get ambushed and then a game over. I'm really dreading to having to farm for rat's tail
I saw the youtuber Misoshiru defeat Bahamut by just stopping it over and over, which is stupid and makes the fight unfun, but perhaps it's for the better so you don't have to suffer the pain. They just announced it as a bug - don't think they fixed it yet??
I think my Rikku can actually be useful if she could survive after the first Megaflare as I just tested that her Alchemy skill remains active even after being dispelled, so I can hopefully cast her barrier right as Megaflare count reaches 1. Will try later.
BTW I just put up my Beefed up Ramza with Mindbreak+2 as a friend unit, hope you and others find it useful!
I saw some message in the notifications about some things they changed but I'll have to check it again.
I've only got 2 Tails so I've got 2 tries on this Bahamut before I have to pull teeth and farm them.
I just did too. Got him down to 15% hp before i got a chance to revive Rikku so i'm out of barrier and party revive. Kinda a crapshoot coz he has some lightning attack that does over 10k dmg on my Rikku during countdown T_T
I gotta say though after enhancing Ramza's mindbreak to +2 it really made a difference. Some of my party actually managed to survive even without any barrier!
edit: since u got it already i think i should delete what I just said. Don't feel like getting banned hehe
I don't use friend at all. So I wont get the issue If I suddenly need some good friend and Ive used them all in TM farming and its faster without friends. Tho Snows attack is slow
.This Bahamut Garden exploration map is starting to really get on my nerves.
End game dungeons should not be like this. The design is pure sadism.
On the other hand, Bahamut itself does 10k dmg with Megaflare. It can only be migitated to non-fatal level by breaking his MAG by over 60% (only Ramza and Delita seems to be able to) on top of using barrier skills (my Rikku rendered semi-useless coz her barrier skill takes 2 turns to be usable). I think this limits the viable choice of characters to even fewer than it was for Aigairon.
edit: I forgot to rant about the fact that I have taken on this mission about 10 times already and have only seen the shadow of Bahamut exactly once. Killed it and didn't even drop a rat's tail for me. Guess the designers really don't want us to beat this boss so soon
Wtf
. If this comes to global in this form the whine will be huge
. We can't do those "super strong" units JP can and well player base will be crying aloud.Lets hope that Gumi balances (wut) things before it comes in 6-9 months time or so.
Pejo
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Are any of you guys dreading waking up in the morning because you know you have to burn NRG and arena orbs before you can really start your day? I absolutely hate that I can't just wake up and snooze my alarm and wake up naturally anymore. It's always "fuck, i better spend my orbs before I take a shower".
I'm past the point that my NRG won't be full after 8 hours sleep, but those damn orbs...
I'm past the point that my NRG won't be full after 8 hours sleep, but those damn orbs...
Nope, my life is easier if I remember to do 5 Arena battles per day. There has been days where I haven't remembered done those and well that feels good too
. The feeling that you _don't_ need to do if you don't want to .
Pejo
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Nope, my life is easier if I remember to do 5 Arena battles per day. There has been days where I haven't remembered done those and well that feels good too
Yea you're totally right, but I just really want to stay under that 30k mark for the pots and eventual moogle. It's worth the time put in to do it, imo.
Still, I wish those orbs accumulated slower or we had more of them. 5 hours to fill is a cruel joke.
Have you counted the time it takes you to try stay under 30k vs staying monthly for the 90k Moogle? I mean being weekly < vs > 30k is not huge difference in prizes but time saving & avoiding frustation are huge factors (at least for me). In weekly chart I hover somewhere 60k - 70k, easy life
Just defeated Bahamut.
Think my game was bugged or something. He is supposed to unleash Megaflare every turn when his hp is lower than 20%, but after 2 turns of MF he went back to his countdown routine again so I guess I lucked out and beat him like that.
Guess i'll come back to this dungeon when I need those megacrysts and mission rewards!
Edit: Wow Bahamut eats a crapton of megacrysts to get to lv 30. Probably 5x as many as the other summons. A liiitttle bit disappointed that his vanilla attack stat is lower than my Odin. I know he's only lv 30 + vanilla compared to a lv 40 and decked out Odin, but given how hard it is to get Bahamut I expected juusst a little more
Think my game was bugged or something. He is supposed to unleash Megaflare every turn when his hp is lower than 20%, but after 2 turns of MF he went back to his countdown routine again so I guess I lucked out and beat him like that.
Guess i'll come back to this dungeon when I need those megacrysts and mission rewards!
Edit: Wow Bahamut eats a crapton of megacrysts to get to lv 30. Probably 5x as many as the other summons. A liiitttle bit disappointed that his vanilla attack stat is lower than my Odin. I know he's only lv 30 + vanilla compared to a lv 40 and decked out Odin, but given how hard it is to get Bahamut I expected juusst a little more
Lyrian
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Top 30k seems like casual mode to me compared to when I chased top 3k.
I can miss like 6-8 orbs a day, toss 3 at the Colosseum for the 5 lapis, and still land ~20k spot easily. Sleep in? No problem. RL issues cause me to miss refreshes? Whatever. So nice to not need to chase the rainbow all the time and crazy 1.50x teams with 5 Nocti/and or other 5* base DPS units.
I can get myself into plenty enough trouble with this game without needing to be on it 24/7.
Were you here when the max number of orbs (pre-Arena) were only 3? That was cruel and unusual punishment.
Malakhov
Banned
Shintoki got me hyped about the FFII banner:
Shine 4*
TM : ATK +30% and chance to negate physical damage taken (10%)
Shera 3*
TM: HP/ATK +15% and increase fire resistance (20%)
Leon 4*
TM: Increase ATK (30%) when equipped with a sword and (20%) when equipped with a heavy armor
Guy 3*
TM: HP +30%, ATK +10%
Then you have the Emperor as well on that banner and finally Firion 6*
Best banner ever. I'm skipping Orlandu, this is where all my tickets and 10+1 pulls are going. All the TMs are very, very good.
Shine 4*
TM : ATK +30% and chance to negate physical damage taken (10%)
Shera 3*
TM: HP/ATK +15% and increase fire resistance (20%)
Leon 4*
TM: Increase ATK (30%) when equipped with a sword and (20%) when equipped with a heavy armor
Guy 3*
TM: HP +30%, ATK +10%
Then you have the Emperor as well on that banner and finally Firion 6*
Best banner ever. I'm skipping Orlandu, this is where all my tickets and 10+1 pulls are going. All the TMs are very, very good.
Oh shit... I should totally go for a few Shines but two 4*s and two 3*s on the banner will make this fucking impossible.
I'm sitting at 20k Lapis and 65+ tickets. I feel like I can either chase Orlandu or a few Shines but not both... :/
Malakhov
Banned
I am going after the FFII banner. All the units have good TMs, you can't lose. On the Orlandu banner you can lose all of your assets and come out of it without anything to show for it.
Both 4* have insane TMs. Having Gilgamesh, one single Leon would mean a whole lot to me and getting Shine would be a bonus. I never was able to get Karl for the 20% ATK materia so this is so good for me.
Stop making so much sense! >_<
Malakhov
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Malakhov
Banned
Soleil 4*
TM Increase MAG/SPR (10%), MP (20%) and chance to negate physical damage taken (5%)
Lawrence 3*
TM: Monster breastplate DEF+46, ATK+12, MAG +12
Ovelia 3*
TM
reamwaker (staff) ATK+19, MAG+15, SPR+49, MP +15%Meh :/
Malakhov
Banned
Yes, Firion gets his 6* upgrade. Becomes a beast with his killer passives and weapon masteries.
Slap dual wield on him and he will get two bonuses like Gilgamesh does with his weapon collector skill.
Freebie pull was Rainbow, just to be troll Refia
That is my 3rd non base 5*. Would like to get the Rainbow gacha change asap. Thanks for the 5% TM I guess...
Daily Vivi = Firaga 100% with pulling too many Vivi's.
Now I can sell all the Vivi's I get in the future.
Time to let my nrg rot, not in the feeling to use them.
That is my 3rd non base 5*. Would like to get the Rainbow gacha change asap. Thanks for the 5% TM I guess...
Daily Vivi = Firaga 100% with pulling too many Vivi's.
Now I can sell all the Vivi's I get in the future.
Time to let my nrg rot, not in the feeling to use them.
Meh. Thank you!Soleil 4*
TM Increase MAG/SPR (10%), MP (20%) and chance to negate physical damage taken (5%)
Lawrence 3*
TM: Monster breastplate DEF+46, ATK+12, MAG +12
Ovelia 3*
TM
Meh :/
I'll likely do Dailies in hope of getting Lawrence for the Monster Breastplate. Everything else is total meh
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Freebie pull was Rainbow, just to be troll Refia
That is my 3rd non base 5*. Would like to get the Rainbow gacha change asap. Thanks for the 5% TM I guess...
Damn. Sorry.
Hey all, just curious, but what's everyone's gold situation like? I know there's going to be a lot of variances, but I'm asking because I heard it costs a TON to upgrade skills down the line. I've been playing since day one and I have 3.7 mil. From what I gather I'll burn through that upgrading skills in no time. So for those with tons of gold, how do you get so much?
Shouta
Member
You'll use Soleil more than any other person in the FF2 banner though, lol.
Anyway, JP stream is gonna happen in a few hours but I'll be asleep. I'm expecting either FF7 Collaboration down the line or teasing Season 2 stuff. That's in addition to Ariana Grande stuff
The big question is, is that plate considered Heavy, or Normal? Normal would make it highly desirable, where as being heavy 1 or 2 units in any given party, and we just got a 12 attack heavy plate... I kept hearing that the banner minus Orlandu was pretty terrible, this put it in perspective though... are the units any good?
Shouta
Member
It's norma/Light armorl as I recall.
I have around 8.5m gold. Started in soft launch 16.5.16, TM farming has given shitton of gold.
Malakhov
Banned
It's all about the TMs
Shouta, since you play jp, what would be best for Firion?
Kaiser knuckles + Sakurafubuki with two champion's belt as accessories and Blade Mastery with Dual Wield as TMs?
Is the Esper last hit Challenge bugged again ? Failed 3 times in a Row lol.
That sucks man...we really need the change soon. Those troll Rainbows are getting too much.
Erm...yeah i meant if his drop rate was boosted during the banner - since you just listed the new units. I really need to pull Firion lol.
Freebie pull was Rainbow, just to be troll Refia
That is my 3rd non base 5*. Would like to get the Rainbow gacha change asap. Thanks for the 5% TM I guess...
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That sucks man...we really need the change soon. Those troll Rainbows are getting too much.
Erm...yeah i meant if his drop rate was boosted during the banner - since you just listed the new units. I really need to pull Firion lol.
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