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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT4| Gacha Crystals, Gacha Money
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Advocatus Diaboli
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So, I installed the Windows Creators Update and I got an Easter gift card. (I don't even celebrate Easter.) So I'm back to TM farming. Currently, 4x Sazh and 1x Oldmandu (idk, whatever).
I just see the utility in a perfect evade Ling (not for the arena!!!!), but I'm not sure what other TMs I ought to be going for besides maybe Arsha's Talisman and Freyvia's Needle--ohwaitIdon'thaveher.
I mean, I could start on Letters and Armses, but without anyone to use them, it seems pointless...
Maybe it's finally time for Melodies of Life?
(Or 2x Symphonic Flair? Because they do stack, the dream's alive!)
I just see the utility in a perfect evade Ling (not for the arena!!!!), but I'm not sure what other TMs I ought to be going for besides maybe Arsha's Talisman and Freyvia's Needle--ohwaitIdon'thaveher.
I mean, I could start on Letters and Armses, but without anyone to use them, it seems pointless...
Maybe it's finally time for Melodies of Life?
(Or 2x Symphonic Flair? Because they do stack, the dream's alive!)
Advocatus Diaboli
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Capped at gold? What? I don't think that's a thing.
But as far as materials, yeah: I don't even know what kind of slots you start with, but expanding slots (for items, equipment, abilities, and materials) is a valid use of lapis. I mean, don't go crazy, but getting an extra 5 is fine.
Ah, I must have just lucked out and landed on 9999 gold. Just assumed I capped myself.
It's a sad feeling using lapis to increase the various spaces, but when you're making tons of it and permanent... it makes it a lot easier to do so. I'd recommend putting materials to 100, units to 100 as well, everything else will take a bit longer to cap out. The numbers have some flex, but that also depends on how diligent you are on cleaning your bags occasionally...
Yekshemesh
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FYI for JP anniversary we got a free 50 slot increase for every storage. Chances are global will get the same.
they will probably add Purecryst (not sure what type) for 100K.
Isn't that what JP got after enhancement update?
Daily : blue I don't remember... Vaan
My unlucky streak of daily keep going. I used all my tickets to get Xon and nothing worthy since the beginning of the banner except Miyuki (1st) and Gaffgarion.
With my 2k lapis on my bank account, and my frustration I decided to spend some money for the first time in this game (49.99) and I pulled.
on the first 10+1 so I stop because it's all I wanted.
I hope I'll never spend money again.
My unlucky streak of daily keep going. I used all my tickets to get Xon and nothing worthy since the beginning of the banner except Miyuki (1st) and Gaffgarion.
With my 2k lapis on my bank account, and my frustration I decided to spend some money for the first time in this game (49.99) and I pulled.
Fryevia and 2 Xon
I hope I'll never spend money again.
witchedwiz
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daily.. aiden..
i swear this game has some of the most mind-bogging rates i've seen..
You would expect that with a feast you *WOULD* get what you wanted..
during a godfeast in PAD, you were pretty sure to get all the units in 50 pulls give or take..
i tried like 45 pulls (plus daily) and I still got zero freyia..
I know you shouldn't chase the 5*, but come on.. what's even the point of having a banner if i have to pull 100+ for it?
and i'd love to know who planned the crystal cost.. because 100 pull is not 50 usd by a fair amount..
and even if it was 50, for 50 you can get an aaa game easily :|
i swear this game has some of the most mind-bogging rates i've seen..
You would expect that with a feast you *WOULD* get what you wanted..
during a godfeast in PAD, you were pretty sure to get all the units in 50 pulls give or take..
i tried like 45 pulls (plus daily) and I still got zero freyia..
I know you shouldn't chase the 5*, but come on.. what's even the point of having a banner if i have to pull 100+ for it?
and i'd love to know who planned the crystal cost.. because 100 pull is not 50 usd by a fair amount..
and even if it was 50, for 50 you can get an aaa game easily :|
Alkez
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Got the support cryst. Don't know if I can be bothered to farm another 100 Rainbows for any others. Would like the Power one for Agrias but Ramza is the focus atm.
Does anyone have a strong mage with Thundaga they could put as their friend unit for the next 30 mins or so? Want to attempt the Ariana battle and planning to Thundaga chain it to victory.
Does anyone have a strong mage with Thundaga they could put as their friend unit for the next 30 mins or so? Want to attempt the Ariana battle and planning to Thundaga chain it to victory.
Put my Emperor up if that helps, though I can only get him to 747 MAG.
Alkez
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Alkez
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You're welcome
Haha thanks dude
I find it very interesting that the FF6 banner represents the single largest departure from the JP schedule so far in GL's history. Doesn't seem to be generating much discussion, though, here or on Reddit.
I can't tell if they're simply slotting the banner into its proper place in the power ramp (who's going to pull for a 5* base mage who still hasn't received enhancements in JP... after Tidus and Aileen go in?) or what the deal is, though.
I can't tell if they're simply slotting the banner into its proper place in the power ramp (who's going to pull for a 5* base mage who still hasn't received enhancements in JP... after Tidus and Aileen go in?) or what the deal is, though.
Alkez
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Yeah I've been thinking about that. I mean there have been some minor changes (I think BF was before tactics in JP?) but nothing as major as this. I think you're right on the money tbh.
I think there's also the issue of Monsters Super Light, because as I said yesterday it was not a Dragon Quest collab, it was a collab with that specific game, so potentially they're trying to time that event with a different DQ release, or just holding off until they decide what to do with that event?
Always appreciate your videos, man.
Yeah the delay of WoL is obvious. Anyways so far the contents can be done without the units(or upgrade), so I ain't complaining.
Muku
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Because no matter how you put it: it's an ass statement. That's why it'd be better just to kind of go around or maybe find a less assy way to state it. Sorry but the response of "just keep playing" on an already frustrated player is just wrong. Yeah, maybe that's the nature of gatchas, but it sure as hell doesn't make the player feel any better. I'm not saying 5* have to be given away like candy, I just feel the response isn't cool, despite gatchas being what they are.
They haven't delayed any of the above. WoL and Garland will be the next update units this months(early next one). One goat said they were next, everyone else followed, while Lasswell came first in JPN.
This week should be a Mogking. Rather, they delayed the DQ(If they decide to do it), and FFZero P3. Since they bumped up the VI. It's a pretty significant upgrade too, since Sezter and Terra are both extremely strong characters. In comparison to DQ and ZeroP3, where Rem is the only pull. And the DQ banner being great for TMs and a future enhanced character.
Eileen should be the next exploration, which would have been if they didn't do the Easter Event in place of it.
Tidus is still a while off and could just be pushed back to the X event, since the BE banner he comes on doesn't need him. By that, it would only delay him a month or so.
Changes to those characters have only been altered by them adding in new content. The bit to note is them bringing up the VI event. This is the first massive change to the line up of mogking and explorations since the first BF banner. But even that wasn't like this since there still was a BF banner then. This means they are comfort enough with state where they can start to free shift around events from JPN.
Pejo
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Broke the seal!
Regarding that Q&A session, Gumi sounds really greedy, is all I got from it. Anything that benefits the players they're consciously holding back. Kinda shitty, honestly.
Lyrian
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Daily : blue I don't remember... Vaan
My unlucky streak of daily keep going. I used all my tickets to get Xon and nothing worthy since the beginning of the banner except Miyuki (1st) and Gaffgarion.
With my 2k lapis on my bank account, and my frustration I decided to spend some money for the first time in this game (49.99€
on the first 10+1 so I stop because it's all I wanted.Fryevia and 2 Xon
I hope I'll never spend money again.
Congrats on the very lucky pull!
Now, don't expect that to happen ever again.
There's that JP precognition rearing its ugly head again. Calm down, Veruca Salt.
As much as everyone wants game-breaking unit upgrades and wants them NOW, Gumi/Alim have learned at this point what broke the game in JP and is taking active steps to prevent such giant leaps of power from occurring at once on Global. As such, desired unit upgrades are going to be held back for awhile to smooth out the power curve increases for Global. They are going to happen, for sure. Learning from past mistakes to craft a better game (ignoring the gacha business model), can be a good thing.
You don't want situations where power creep just suddenly leaps up so massively that everyone was to have the newest OP 5* base unit to even be able to clear current content. That's bad for the long-term life of the game.
Just look at Orlandeau. He was delayed on Global for months and he still is ridiculously OP even after the power curve has caught up somewhat. It is an easy assertion to suggest that Gumi is looking at Ramza/Agrias/Tilith/WoL enhancements/awakenings in the same light.
Alkez
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Good equipment yeah. Usually good stuff comes from events. On Friday there will be a new event and will probably come with some decent basic gear for you to obtain.
They did a livestream in Japanese I believe. I think someone posted the video a couple of pages back.
Lyrian
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Early game? Yeah. Later store vendors in cities will get you basic upgrades for your units.
Later on, you'll start running events to buy upgrades to the vendor stuff from Mog King events, and then Trust Master rewards after that eventually.
EDIT: Beaten by Alkez by just a second or two
Pejo
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Not even looking at units dude, they're holding back INT maze and PRO dunes, shit like that. Stuff that hurts nobody, doesn't impact power creep, and just reduces grind. Unit stuff is whatever, since I've made peace with Global being different than JP, but this kind of stuff is what makes me salty.
Besides, you act like people already don't act like not having the hotness 5* makes you a loser. That's what makes Gumi all the money.
Alkez
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Anyone have a strong character to be my friend? I have no friends
Drop your code (if you know how to find it).
Lyrian
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People want the hotness 5* because it enables easy mode and avoids having to actually play the game.
How many people would rather just EZ-mode trials and ELTs with 2-3 Orlandeau versus actually clearing the events the way they were intended? A person really does not have to look any farther than the first page of r/FFBE to see that the vast majority of players just want a giant I WIN button for content, instead of referring to videos like the ones Valentus consistently posts showing that all content can be cleared with non-whale tier units.
In regards to PRO dunes, look at it from the devs' perspective.
Let's assume the average long-term player on Global has 90-100 energy capacity at the moment.
-- PRO dunes costs 30 EN to run.
-- Dunes takes maybe 30 seconds to run.
So, it is easy to see that a player can check in for 2~3 minutes 2-3x a day, burn all their energy and simply log out at that point. From the devs' perspective, that is really poor player engagement with the game and is not good for the long-term health of the game. Players won't refill when it only takes seconds to dump a whole energy bar, which makes the rewards relatively meaningless (even if they are actually powerful) because players did not do anything more than just hit AUTO to claim them.
From the stream, the devs are acutely aware of this problem on JP and are trying to actively avoid the same scenario on Global.
Note how in this current event, the rewards from INT maze and PRO Dunes and Gil Snappers are present in the egg gacha as rewards from playing the game.
Yes, but as noted in the dev Q&A, the devs are very apprehensive about releasing INT Maze on Global. It may be awhile before we see it, and may be a reasonably safe assertion to suggest that it won't come with the Eileen banner like it did on JP.
Lyrian
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I fear that GL will never get as much limit pots as JP then, gotta carefully plan on how to use them.
Lyrian
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For now. In the future, Global will likely catch up with JP on limit pots, but at a more measured, drawn out pace.
Let's dust off the Rarity-O-Meter, from 2 or 3 OTs ago.
-----> Power of drop/unit increases ---->
0------|------|------|------|------5------|------|------|------|------10
<----- Rarity of drop/unit becomes more common <-----
Stuff at Rarity 0 is trivial to obtain. Beast meats, story vendor gear, etc.
Stuff at Rarity 10 are either unique drops from trials or very expensive Mog King purchases that are significant power bumps for players.
Over time, the meter is constantly moving to the right. The longer something is out in the game in one form or another, the more common it or a similar drop becomes and the less power it is in terms of meta shifting. This is the same rating scheme as the one to assign power numbers to units on Exvius Wiki.
In terms of Global, 4* LB pots before this event were sitting at near or at the 10 rating. Ultra rare, and normally impossible to obtain freely outside of event rewards in very limited quantities. With this event, the LB pots have started to slide down the meter. I'd probably place them at a 7 now, as they are rare, but technically unlimited subject to the whims of being a very rare pull from the event gacha. The same could be said for the introductory positions of King Minitaurs and Gil Snapper Families.
The problem, as I see it from being a past DM who designed loot tables, is that INT Maze and PRO Dunes greatly devalues these drops as they become near trivial to obtain. They immediately power creep these drops all the way down to maybe 1 or 2 on the scale, as the only limiting factor in getting unlimited numbers of these items is waiting for the weekend rotation (assuming every weekend like on JP doesn't happen) or the number of refreshes a player is willing to spend to drown in these items. In terms of power creep, this is very bad game design as once this happens, the devs can **never** walk this back because of player expectations.
My expectations on the matter is that the devs will take a more measured approach for Global, and slowly walk these drops down the rarity scale over time. INT Maze and PRO dunes will show up eventually on Glonal, but not until these drops have been moved down the rarity scale at more measured pace until they are naturally at rarity rating less than 4 or 5 at a minimum.
Sent you an invite. I actually cleared a few slots of inactive friends so if anyone else wants a 972 atk Cid friend, I'm 911,468,888.
Hmm..
It says "This user has reached their friend request capacity." My ID is 576.267.377 if you want to add me.
I added you. You should change your info to something about GAF so we know. Go to Menu -> Player Info -> Edit Greeting.
Muku
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God I love the Vestment of Mind for Refia. Got it yesterday. Took Refia for a spin doing The Stage for some of the rewards. Wondering why Refia wasn't going down that far overall. Forgot Vestment has it. Look at it afterward and appreciate it more. Damn. Would be hard to go back to whatever she was wearing before.
It's usually the 2nd slot of whatever party you're currently using. However, you can go and set a party to *always* use that character.
Go to Menu -> Options -> Scroll down to "Select Party" and you can pick which party you want your Companion to be picked from (It'll still be the character in the Leader slot). You can also set an Arena and Colosseum party, which is also useful.
Must be becuase I added a bunch of "Find" requests for people with Xon and Marie. Didn't know it prevents people from adding me. I manually added you though because my friend list still has 20 spots open.
creid
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I wish events were more like this. "Having" to play 60+ minutes a day to "keep up" makes me like the game less, not more.
Thanks u guys! I don't plan to adopt bad habits anyway so it was a - lucky ' one shot.
Also it makes playing the game a bit less painful since it asks a lot of dedication lately.
I hope DQ or other collabs are in for the GL version. They have nothing to lost anyway. Fans will probably drop money and sprites are already done so... it's a win-win situation.
For the DA event, you can't use abilities for the achievement but Dual Cast still works? It's weird since it's in a Special move. Anything to mitigated the boss damage, especially after 50%?
Lyrian
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It's a balancing act, for sure.
If players can dump their energy too quickly, then they don't become engaged with the game.
On the other hand, if it takes an hour plus to dump energy efficiently, then players will perceive the game as a slog. That's also bad.
For me, part of the event being a "miss" in terms of performance is that the most efficient dungeon to farm eggs is a 6 EN floor. With close to 120 EN at max, that is a crapload of runs for me to get rid of my energy stockpile 2-3x daily, and can take almost an hour.
Aintnoonegottimeforthat.jpg
Conversely, the devs have stated that events are generally fine-tuned to newer players (trials and ELTs being the exception to the rule). As such, the 6 EN floor being the most efficient might be a nod towards allowing lower ranked players to farm somewhat efficiently in this event. Still, the effect of that is making the grind for longer-term accounts very uncomfortable.
IMO, the devs should have made a 12-13 point floor from Zoldaad (as none exist yet in Mysidia on Global) that had the same effective egg drop rates as the Snow Planes. That would have solved a lot of grind problems many vets are experiencing in this event.
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