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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT4| Gacha Crystals, Gacha Money
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jasminlovesyoux
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I'm in a weird mood and just spend my remaining 35,000 lapis on this banner.
Got 1 rainbow, and it was a Queen. I'm hating life right now.
Now I'm broke, but I do have loads of TMs which made me want to keep pulling. So,whatever.. fml kinda sorta.
Got 1 rainbow, and it was a Queen. I'm hating life right now.
Now I'm broke, but I do have loads of TMs which made me want to keep pulling. So,whatever.. fml kinda sorta.
What weapon do you have on Rain?
I killed Gilgamesh last night so maybe I can give you some reminders. You probably don't need these notes but hey it's fresh on my mind.
- Don't forget to Dispel when necessary.
- You don't need to seal Lightning until he is at 50%. Also remember that Lightning weapons and Lightning (the unit, her attacks are physical) do not work.
- His water attack is single target, and I find that you can generally tough it out (unless your unit is weak to water), so you don't have to seal it.
- ... because if you seal it 3 times, he wastes a turn doing "Break" (a buff)
Speaking the truth. The real problem with ifrit is not the fire attacks.
Its the fucking aoe that paralyzes
Thats why the atk break is ESSENTIAL un here. More than barfira i would say.
Thats why its important to bring 2 break sources. Rain/ling/wol/Noctis are the best picks.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
Wow. Gotta retool my ELT Ifrit approach considerably. I thought bringing Marie along would help, but I think I need Ling for mana regen.
And I'm not sure Olive is even that great in this...
And I'm not sure Olive is even that great in this...
I give up on beating ELT. Embolden + Focus + Barfira are all up and both his ATK and MAG was defuffed by Ling (I checked!) and he still kills everyone except Cecil on turn 3 with Radiant Plume. At least I always get his HP down to a little bit more than halfway so I get more points and coins than in than PRO. It's nice to know that I can continue messing around on this difficulty.
I just wish I knew what the hell is up tho. I see people with the same exact sets I'm using managing to survive.
I did but it didn't change much. He always ends up killing Refia afterwards in the same turn.
I just wish I knew what the hell is up tho. I see people with the same exact sets I'm using managing to survive.
I did but it didn't change much. He always ends up killing Refia afterwards in the same turn.
DrROBschiz
Member
Its like Val says
the straight physical attacks are the larger threat
so def takes slight priority over magic reductions
you want a powerful physical and magic breaker. honestly Ramza might be the ticket if some of you have him
5 turn 40% reductions will give you plenty of breathing room
the straight physical attacks are the larger threat
so def takes slight priority over magic reductions
you want a powerful physical and magic breaker. honestly Ramza might be the ticket if some of you have him
5 turn 40% reductions will give you plenty of breathing room
Tried ELT again, was surviving but dealing almost no damage for about 6/7 turns, then he just OSed 3 units, and he definitely had all debuff + I had all buff applied. (with a Marie's Barfiraga!)
He's bugging and doing double plume or something, that can't be right, and we can't check thing everything go so fast and damage numbers are delayed compared to the animations.
Oh and I'm debuffing with Ramza, too.
He's bugging and doing double plume or something, that can't be right, and we can't check thing everything go so fast and damage numbers are delayed compared to the animations.
Oh and I'm debuffing with Ramza, too.
Euphoria14
Member
The whole "unit data has been updated" thing is so aggravating. Keeps stopping my Switch Control auto farming.
I swear some of the debuffs aren't activating even if the icon shows up. It's the only explanation I have at this point. Once my second Flame Mail is done, I'm bringing Rain and spamming debuffs with him and Ling every single turn.
indigo-cyclops
Member
So I have a dilemma. I merged a bunch of my Zidanes into another and it's currently at 78%, I thought I had 35% in Moogles but only have 30 (3x10s)...I really want that second dual wield but not sure I can stomach losing 8% worth! That's precious stuff!
I also feel like, in the grand scheme of things though, it's really not that big of a deal considering those 3 are all from January on.
Would I be crazy to just do it and take the hit?
I also feel like, in the grand scheme of things though, it's really not that big of a deal considering those 3 are all from January on.
Would I be crazy to just do it and take the hit?
ModernBoxes
Banned
Great pointers actually, I had not read why Lightning would not work until now. I was going to rely on a hammer for that element(rain). Back to the drawing board there.
Water fucked up the Noctis i had with me. Does it also not debuff the targets abilities?
Also i have no idea what you mean by seal it three times
new:
Rain: Icebrand, fire, earth
Firion: Light, waterblade
Cecil: None
Refia: DC Lightning
Ling: None
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
New ultra-defensive attempt with Yun, Ling, Marie, Refia, Cecil, and friend Noctis. We'll see how this rolls... it may take a while.
Nice to know it's not only me. I just know there's something else going on here. I shouldn't be having so much trouble with the units and TMs I have.
Lyrian
Member
At this point, after trying so many times now, that I wonder if the game is expiring buffs/debuffs between your turn and Ifrit's turn.
On the last run, I was checking full buffs and debuffs on the status screen every single turn. I'm still trying to figure out what expired and caused an immediate wipe.
About water: Ah, sorry. I ran my setup with two tanks (Cecil + Snow), so the water attack always went to him and I didn't notice the debuff.
After you attack him with water element for the third time, he wastes a turn doing the buff instead of his usual attacks. This only happens once per battle, though, so you may find it valuable to control when this happens.
DrROBschiz
Member
ATK break is the secret
must be on at all times
you will want MAG reduction but you can slack a bit if you have either focus, barfira or mag break up
his physical attacks are whats the worst. Def buffs and attack breaks must be maintained at all costs
must be on at all times
you will want MAG reduction but you can slack a bit if you have either focus, barfira or mag break up
his physical attacks are whats the worst. Def buffs and attack breaks must be maintained at all costs
I have it on first turn and he still wipe me. I have rain and friend Noctis to make sure of it.
Anyways I'm just going to stick to Pro.
The Silver
Member
that vulcan AOE attack is the thing that can screw you, he decides to start going HAM with that and you're in for some pain.
Also Rain, stop trying to cover Cecil you damn idiot, I wish I had Ling.
Also Rain, stop trying to cover Cecil you damn idiot, I wish I had Ling.
Lyrian
Member
Ok, well.... the Reddit mods are now saying that the seemingly weird buff/debuff behavior is "working as intended".
Per the mods there, player buffs tick down 1 turn at the start of their turn, while enemy debuffs tick down 1 turn at the start of their turn.
This means that a debuff can be shown as "up" on your turn, and then expires at the start of Ifrit's turn, causing a total wipe.
So, pretty much you have to debuff every single turn, even if the debuffs appear over Ifrit, because there's no guarantee (because you can't see how many turns are left on the debuff) that the debuff will be still valid on Ifrit's next turn.
I think I need some Alka Seltzer.
Per the mods there, player buffs tick down 1 turn at the start of their turn, while enemy debuffs tick down 1 turn at the start of their turn.
This means that a debuff can be shown as "up" on your turn, and then expires at the start of Ifrit's turn, causing a total wipe.
So, pretty much you have to debuff every single turn, even if the debuffs appear over Ifrit, because there's no guarantee (because you can't see how many turns are left on the debuff) that the debuff will be still valid on Ifrit's next turn.
I think I need some Alka Seltzer.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
Yun, Ling, Cecil, Marie, Refia + Noctis - cleared. It wasn't difficult, just tedious; however, at the end, Refia died, Noct was out of MP, and only Yun, Cecil, and Marie were hanging around, thanks to their +Fire.
Killed Ifrit on Yun's LB, which dropped a giant coin on his ass, which caused him to explode in raid coins.
That was amazing.
Killed Ifrit on Yun's LB, which dropped a giant coin on his ass, which caused him to explode in raid coins.
That was amazing.
Great.
It's always been like that. The buff starts on your turn, so you are tick one.
Basically, Ling putting in work again with her ATK/MAG break.
With atk break (better if its ramza's or ling's) and embolden, really ifrit should not be a problem.
Its the vulcan attack that breaks all the pace, and theres times that ifrit does it 3 times the same round.
Im not using batshit insane equip, you know i dont like it during trials, and with all buffs and debuffs on, ifrit only does 1000 damage with vulcan.
Its the vulcan attack that breaks all the pace, and theres times that ifrit does it 3 times the same round.
Im not using batshit insane equip, you know i dont like it during trials, and with all buffs and debuffs on, ifrit only does 1000 damage with vulcan.
Please do a video.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Lol Cecil wouldn't leave me alone today went from 1 Excalibur to 3 and 60% of a 4th.
I finally did it with a defensive team, kinda of tedious depending on the friend unit. I've used Rain, CoD, Refia, Cecil and Noctis + high DPS friend.
This is the most RNG heavy fight we've had so far, he can wipe key units which might dismantle your entire strategy if you are not careful. To avoid this, simply don't be shy to soft reset the game before his animation is over, as long as Cecil tank most of the hits, you will be fine.
When my second Flame Mail gets ready, there won't even be a need to soft reset because Rain won't die anymore, then the real grind begins. I also lack HP% materias, with a few more this could've been much smoother, Thancred TM will take care of this.
This is the most RNG heavy fight we've had so far, he can wipe key units which might dismantle your entire strategy if you are not careful. To avoid this, simply don't be shy to soft reset the game before his animation is over, as long as Cecil tank most of the hits, you will be fine.
When my second Flame Mail gets ready, there won't even be a need to soft reset because Rain won't die anymore, then the real grind begins. I also lack HP% materias, with a few more this could've been much smoother, Thancred TM will take care of this.
:|
Damn, I didn't realise Genji Blade came under a Katana weapon type. Equipped that on shared Noctis instead. I always have one unit that gets paralysed each round I need to sort out, real annoying lol. I've swapped from Cloud of Darkness to Firion, now to Rain.
DrROBschiz
Member
I have my Cecil keep provoke up after the first turn
even with a solid Defense buff, atk break and BArfira/mag break you still want the majority of strikes to go against him
Defense across the board is truly king in this fight but so is ATK breaking
even with a solid Defense buff, atk break and BArfira/mag break you still want the majority of strikes to go against him
Defense across the board is truly king in this fight but so is ATK breaking
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
Yeah, agreed completely. I think that with a breaker + Minfilia's Flame Guard, this is really doable. I used Marie, and she mostly DC'd Barfiraga and Protectga.
I didn't bother to Bushido the -50% fire. Refia was better served Curaja'ing.
Ling, per usual, was a breaker + mana battery.
I had some pretty good +fire gear (Crimson Slayer, Flame Shield, Flame Mail, Rainbow Robe, Minerva's Bustier), and I suspect that if I'd had more of it, Marie wouldn't have been necessary. A DC Cecil with Barfira/Curaja might work too. Could've added more DPS (like CoD, who can alternate) that way and done it faster.
ModernBoxes
Banned
So Bushido freedom just wiped my full health party.
Am i supposed to see it trigger and block with everyone but the threshold breaker?
DrROBschiz
Member
so what you want to do is
slowly build up to each threshold
If he buffs himself even better since you know he wont take as much damage
Before crossing a threshold have Golem up, Buff up, and guard with any weak units
The Silver
Member
Is Minfilia beefier than Cerius, she's the one that dies all the time when Ifrit decides to start spamming vulcan
Minfilia is better than Cerius. For this fight, just get her HP to about 5k if you want her to survive.
ModernBoxes
Banned
By golem you mean the esper summon? would a cecil limit break work too? Its level 10+
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
Yes, ceriusly.
Even if you only account for the fact that you can slap a Muscle Belt on her instead of a Jeweled Ring because she resists all statuses. If you get her exclusive materia (later on in the raid...), it's a counter-heal. She can also do (almost, it's only 40%) Focus/Embolden. The only downside? Her "magic" is skills, and she doesn't get auto-refresh. (Neither does Cerius.)
Marie is still the best Green Mage, but even Marie can't boost ATK/MAG.
DrROBschiz
Member
yup just make sure your ass is stacked defensively and cross the threshold deliberately
You do not need to worry about sealing on threshold crosses
I highly recommend putting black belt on your tank and other sealing units to get free seals so that you can free up more actions per turn
Finally decided on my team for elite. Cecil, Refia, Noctis, Yun, Ling. Was trying to use Marie but only having 2 jeweled rings makes it hard and she was always the one to die before anyone else, even with almost 6k hp. This way I can handle all the breaks and make do with barfira, and take either a Noctis or Yun friend.
The units I own that are naturally immune to paralysis are Refia... and Queen.
I guess Minfilia too, once I level her up.
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