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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope

Kakaroach

Member
Thanks for the advice from everyone in this thread! I rerolled a Chizuru and Wakka account so I think I'm good to go until they start adding characters I'm more familiar with. Looks like turning chizuru into a 6 star is gonna be mad hard though.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
All power Gians got, tickets, and cacturs got with about 20k left over. Support Gians, Weapon, 6* Mats, and Materia are left.
 

Vashetti

Banned
Anyone on iOS familiar with this?

I have 'Background App Refresh' off in iOS settings. Anything I need to do in Brave Exvius itself?

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Agrias has no Enhancements yet, but is she worth maxing with ATK pots if I already have 2x Orlandeau?

Can she chain with them yet?


I ask because I have tons of ATK pots piled up and nobody to use them on.

I'll save them if it's not worthwhile.
 

Muku

Member
Hmm, thank you guys. Anyone remember when [JP] Bravely Default banner ends? I know they give us a ton of tickets, but not sure I want to blow the whole wad (and 99% still not get what I want) on the banner. Will have to consider.

OK has been my lead, but right now thinking of swapping to Tidus, just because I have a bit better gear on him ATM. Easier for him. Plus he doesn't die like a little bitch every time.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
You and me both. Someday, but right now, I think Bushido Freedom works fine and I don't feel like fighting Aigaion again!

As I said, just chain Blade Blitz. Every unit has it. With your Agrias and a friends decently equip and since most are rocking a team of gaff/Agr. It works out nicely.
 

Syntsui

Member
Hmm, thank you guys. Anyone remember when [JP] Bravely Default banner ends? I know they give us a ton of tickets, but not sure I want to blow the whole wad (and 99% still not get what I want) on the banner. Will have to consider.

OK has been my lead, but right now thinking of swapping to Tidus, just because I have a bit better gear on him ATM. Easier for him. Plus he doesn't die like a little bitch every time.
It ends tomorrow I think, the raid should end today.
 

Muku

Member
It ends tomorrow I think, the raid should end today.

Ahhh I thought Raid ended August 1st? Which would then end about tomorrow our time.

And crap gotta make up my mind quick. Will finish Mog King runs on alt and take a look at what I got and figure out what to do
 

Syntsui

Member
Ahhh I thought Raid ended August 1st? Which would then end about tomorrow our time.

And crap gotta make up my mind quick. Will finish Mog King runs on alt and take a look at what I got and figure out what to do
In game it says July 31 23:59, how that translates to your location's date I don't know lol. For me it should be right after I wake up.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Dailies have decreased a lot now to me. Since every daily is worth about 375 nrg.... more than a day's worth of energy, It was easier when I had 70 or 80 NRG. Putting it into perspective, for a single TM. It takes about 33 days of energy with 1 unit. This reduces it down to about 15 days if I burn it on energy instead.
 

Muku

Member
Well, fark. You might be right. I may be getting dates mixed up. Ahhhhh.

Plus, don't keep my iPad on Japan time since I moved back to States. Since it's my alarm clock, can't really go back right now. >_<

Edit: Sweet baby Cecil. OK .. I love him, but dear god. On a new account with no + HP shit to give him, what a damn floor licker.


Just checked. The 11 tickets I spent this morning that yielded the gold was Yu! Woo! Ended up having 25% of Moogle's for the TM, so 25% into Yu's Trust now. Guess I'll end up selling the rest of the TM Moogles. :( Want that Katana, but ugh. Gotta pull a Rainbow. Then it's gotta be on banner. ;_;
 

Lyrian

Member
Dailies have decreased a lot now to me. Since every daily is worth about 375 nrg.... more than a day's worth of energy, It was easier when I had 70 or 80 NRG. Putting it into perspective, for a single TM. It takes about 33 days of energy with 1 unit. This reduces it down to about 15 days if I burn it on energy instead.

/nods

Yeah, it was a lot easier to make that decision at 75ish NRG. Now that many of us are at 150+ NRG.... the value proposition on a paid half price daily isn't so great anymore. It's outright bad, actually. As you mentioned, a single refresh at 150 NRG is ~7.5% worth of TMRs in ES, or that's 6 extra runs of the Mog King event, which can be easily 10-20k (or more in bonus waves appear) of event currency.

Getting harder and harder by the day to justify that half price daily.


Failed a max chance A-rank tough pot mission today. /feelsbadman

Had another show up last night and just finished it with a Great Success. Retribution is sweet. But, wait.... they changed the bonus reward? Really, Gumi? Was it REALLY that much too rewarding to grant an extra mini tough pot on a Great Success for that mission? I don't mind the 5 Advance Tokens for the Great Success, but I'd rather have the extra mini tough pot.

On that note, I'm highly suspicious that the difficulty of explorations in general are still further ramping up, as I'm on the cusp of Adventurer III. Either RNG has been slightly broken for me this week on explorations, or I'm starting to see an ungodly number of giancryst, tough pot, and burst pot missions showing up to clog my selection of missions for the day.

Got a sinking feeling that it's only going to get worse in the future...
 
/nods

Yeah, it was a lot easier to make that decision at 75ish NRG. Now that many of us are at 150+ NRG.... the value proposition on a paid half price daily isn't so great anymore. It's outright bad, actually. As you mentioned, a single refresh at 150 NRG is ~7.5% worth of TMRs in ES, or that's 6 extra runs of the Mog King event, which can be easily 10-20k (or more in bonus waves appear) of event currency.

Getting harder and harder by the day to justify that half price daily.


Failed a max chance A-rank tough pot mission today. /feelsbadman

Had another show up last night and just finished it with a Great Success. Retribution is sweet. But, wait.... they changed the bonus reward? Really, Gumi? Was it REALLY that much too rewarding to grant an extra mini tough pot on a Great Success for that mission? I don't mind the 5 Advance Tokens for the Great Success, but I'd rather have the extra mini tough pot.

On that note, I'm highly suspicious that the difficulty of explorations in general are still further ramping up, as I'm on the cusp of Adventurer III. Either RNG has been slightly broken for me this week on explorations, or I'm starting to see an ungodly number of giancryst, tough pot, and burst pot missions showing up to clog my selection of missions for the day.

Got a sinking feeling that it's only going to get worse in the future...

My biggest issue is the Gil drain

If we dont get a raid soon Im going to be in big trouble

I actually might consider running gil snappers cave in off weeks my god
 

Lyrian

Member
Welp, guess it had to happen sometime, although I wasn't even actively trying anymore.

Trophy #71 obtained. Ugh.

/holds head in shame and fills out the playbook entry for the day he knew would come months ago...

That's all the free lapis there is from trophies for me. Unless something new is added, I guess the next ones would be the two 10k arena win/battles in maybe another year or so?
 

Lyrian

Member
My biggest issue is the Gil drain

If we dont get a raid soon Im going to be in big trouble

I actually might consider running gil snappers cave in off weeks my god

Now that's a thought, lol.

Though, there should be a raid this coming Friday in one form or another.


That said, there's been a crazy amount of tickets thrown at us in the last few weeks. I was completely broke on tickets after pulling for Tilith, and if Nier is this coming weekend, I could be sitting on as many as 75-80 tickets. Unbelievable.
 

Muku

Member
[JP] Well, got Agrias to 5* shortly ago. Feels good. Capped her out with some Cactaur I had. Gotta work on last bit to get Bikkini Fina to 5* as well. Working on 6* mats where I can. Got most, if not all?, from the raid. Not bad considering I started a couple days late. Once I start getting folks 6*, I'll feel better. Though, if I can get Fina to 5*, I'll use NRG on story again. Paused that on only the second island in-game to work on leveling. Not too bad though.

Got Katana from Raid rewards, so gave that to Tidus early on. Made the +61 Attack sword that Tidus used until the katana. Then gave that sword to OK. Have mats to make another thing or two, but going to power what I can down to see what all I can make at end. Got the sword, armor, and Moogle hat from Mission rewards. Feeling kinda good, even though lots more work to go on JP.



I haven't felt like the half priced daily has been worth it unless it's on a really good banner, or something I want on it. Otherwise, despite being able to use it for Refreshes, we all know we're one pull away from Bedile. Friends don't let friends pull Bedile.
 
man you know this is a bad banner and when the 5 stars are so rare on my FL during mog king, just a sea of Agrias

I hope no one spends money on these double 5 star banners, send GUMI a message dammnit

god if they put Balthier on a double banner..........
 

bonkeng

Member
man you know this is a bad banner and when the 5 stars are so rare on my FL during mog king, just a sea of Agrias

I hope no one spends money on these double 5 star banners, send GUMI a message dammnit

god if they put Balthier on a double banner..........

Yeah. Even my whaliest friend (and Yoshi as well) who've consistently pulled for every 5* base didn't bother getting one of the 5* base now. He's just sharing Agrias like everyone.
 

robotuw

Member
Nier's probably going to be a double as well. Hm, maybe they will put the 3% out early if they're going to keep this crap up.
 

tuffymon

Member
Double 5* is going to be the norm going forward.

Dark Veritas will be behind a double 5* banner too :((((((

Very true on both... it feels kinda scary knowing that too


Nier's probably going to be a double as well. Hm, maybe they will put the 3% out early if they're going to keep this crap up.

i wouldnt put it past em to make it a double 5* with the addition of A2... but we don't know for certain yet... 3% rainbow would be an awesome way to bring this banner to light... although that just seems a bit too early
 

Doctor_No

Member
Yeah. Even my whaliest friend (and Yoshi as well) who've consistently pulled for every 5* base didn't bother getting one of the 5* base now. He's just sharing Agrias like everyone.

When I saw this banner announced I went ahead and hard pulled for a second Lunera. Double 5* banner is a massive disincentive.

I'm at the point where if the unit doesn't bring something unique to the table, I'm not going to bother pulling it because I'm never going to use the unit. I'll pull hard for Nier and Veritas of the Dark, maybe Prishe because of her nice hat, but I'm not really interested in the other units until Onion Knight and Ayaka appear.

I haven't even bothered sharing Agrias. There are too many of her, and adding mine wouldn't be helpful. But I've noticed other big whales on my FL, like Dyer, have gotten these FFT 5*s. Also noticed Ziss hasn't logged in in a month (I guess he quit the game); so I deleted him today.
 

across

Member
Double 5* is going to be the norm going forward.

Just to touch on this a bit, it's not actually true. From where we are currently, evaluating against JP banners (so GL exclusives can certainly throw this out of alignment) - first number is amount of 5* units, second 4*, third 3*.

Veritas banner (2/2/1 - by the way, schedule-wise, this is likely to be the next banner after whatever the raid is this week...)
FFXI banner (1/1/1)
FFIII banner (1/2/1)
Veritas banner 2 (1/2/0)
Noctis banner (1/1/1, but who knows what this will be in GL)
FFXV banner (1/2/1)
Ayaka banner (1/2/2)
Cloud banner (2/1/1)
Roy banner (1/1/1)
JP custom unit banner (1/5/0? we already got the 1 and who knows if the others will come)

... etc. The double 5* banners don't really start in earnest until FFIX, with Eiko/Beatrix. Exactly one month and two double 5* banners after FFIX, JP got the 3% rainbow change. The banner after that was 1/2/0, with Sage Sakura. Everything after that has been double 5*.

So it's more accurate to say that it will be the norm eventually, but we aren't at that point yet, touch wood. Nier seems likely to be a double 5*, though, yes.
 
My biggest issue is the Gil drain

If we dont get a raid soon Im going to be in big trouble

I actually might consider running gil snappers cave in off weeks my god

Yea I'm seriously running low. Hovering around 2.3 million only. Enhancements and expeditions are really draining...
 

tuffymon

Member
@Across, I'm guessing your list doesn't seem nearly as bad with the double 5 star banners... but that is without the collabs that would have been there. MHX is 2, an RS had 2
 

across

Member
@Across, I'm guessing your list doesn't seem nearly as bad with the double 5 star banners... but that is without the collabs that would have been there. MHX is 2, an RS had 2

Intentionally left out. Wouldn't affect my overall point even if I'd put them in. Since Nier is looking likely to be a double 5* banner, the only difference will be +1 double 5* on JP's side. RS3 has 0% chance of coming here unless it's after or concurrent with a GL release and I don't rate MHX's chances much higher. DQ is far more relevant than RS3 and is a property that Squeenix actually owns, vs. MH. DQ didn't come and isn't coming. So...

When people complain about double 5* (or double 4*, even) the unspoken assumption is that it's a problem because one of the two, or both, is desireable. As much as I generally abhor putting too much stock in Altema/Famitsu rankings, neither collaboration's 5* units seemed to set JP on fire. The only one I saw much talk about on Reddit (very small sample size, granted) was Hunter Fina for Reraise...

Contrast this with Dark/Fire Veritas both being powerful units, or Cloud/Elfreeda being desireable for TDH antics, etc.
 

tuffymon

Member
Intentionally left out. .

I just meant as a whole, 4/11 seems worse off than 2/9 and more could have been there, I didn't have the time to fully look over the list.

It's hit and miss in the future, but your numbers show that like always we're over freaking out (like every event >.> )
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
If half-price dailies aren't worth it, 1) how are you drawing new units? and 2) i can't imagine how bad of a deal the 10+1s are to you, then.
 

Rixa

Member
If half-price dailies aren't worth it, 1) how are you drawing new units? and 2) i can't imagine how bad of a deal the 10+1s are to you, then.

1.) Aim for some / one banner (Nier cough cough) or use tix or have everything you need and knowing you don't want to use small amount of resource to small chance via daily.
 

across

Member
If half-price dailies aren't worth it, 1) how are you drawing new units? and 2) i can't imagine how bad of a deal the 10+1s are to you, then.

Half-price dailies aren't worth it because (or when) you don't need new units. Aside from Ashe, who is now some fraction of a percent chance from a daily pull, I have every non-5* unit in the game (that I care about, sorry Bran). Many other players in this thread will be in similar circumstances.

Daily rainbow is a 1% chance - and it's 50/50 on banner/off-banner. If the banner rainbows are not appealing (as is the case currently) then you're spending 250 lapis for a 0.5% chance at something good. Except not, because when you factor in troll rainbows, dupe rainbows, and okay-I-guess-but-not-likely-to-make-my-team rainbows, we're hitting microscopic return on investment.

Conversely, if you've pulled enough units to get to this point, you probably have plenty of TMs in the backlog. They're 100% reliable power boosts. No, Arsha's Talisman isn't as good as Aileen, but I know I'll get one in... what is it, 6000 lapis or something, plus four other TMs? Spend some time on the summon simulator to see how many off-banner Aileens you're pulling with 6000 lapis.

Which leads nicely to your other point: 10+1 summons are pretty bad deals for all of the same reasons I just outlined. You do them for the guaranteed 4* that will hopefully either be the banner 4* or the banner 5* (or Gilgamesh or whatever, but not Lightning). Otherwise they're nearly twice the price of 11 dailies. It can be the best option and a bad deal at the same time.

This isn't even getting into nebulous personal stuff like 'I like to summon each day' or 'This banner has my favs' or 'I have enough disposable income to do 10+1s on FFT3' and the such. Some people prefer a safer return on investment (TMs), others prefer the low chance of high reward (daily pull), others will hoard multiples of 5,000 for valuable banners or even for the 3% rainbow change.

Like the Matrix, no one can be told what the value of lapis is. You have to see it for yourself (based on unit luck, unit counts, nostalgic fetishism for sprites, annual salary, susceptibility to gambling, desire to impress people on Reddit/GAF, etc.).
 

fionel

Member
Last time I complained here about the lack of my rainbow luck I got rainbows in 2 days in a row (Emperor Shera and CG Jake, off banner). I think complaining here really works! Should have done it before I blew my last free pull and 5 of my remaining 10 tickets on the last day of the BD banner though. I just want that Agnes TM goddamit!

I'm gonna complain some more in the next few days until I can the new Kain!
 

Syntsui

Member
It seems 30%MAG materia will be on sale this time on JP Mog King. There goes my dream of a permanent DW/DH/DC on rotation :(

It feels really bad to lose the chance to get those for free even though I was able to get DC.
 

Alkez

Member
It seems 30%MAG materia will be on sale this time on JP Mog King. There goes my dream of a permanent DW/DH/DC on rotation :(

It feels really bad to lose the chance to get those for free even though I was able to get DC.

That's stupid. Why put mag + 30% as the mog king TM when we just got a bunch of free mag + 25%? I'm not wasting time for 5% lol.
 
Half-price dailies aren't worth it because (or when) you don't need new units. Aside from Ashe, who is now some fraction of a percent chance from a daily pull, I have every non-5* unit in the game (that I care about, sorry Bran). Many other players in this thread will be in similar circumstances.

Daily rainbow is a 1% chance - and it's 50/50 on banner/off-banner. If the banner rainbows are not appealing (as is the case currently) then you're spending 250 lapis for a 0.5% chance at something good. Except not, because when you factor in troll rainbows, dupe rainbows, and okay-I-guess-but-not-likely-to-make-my-team rainbows, we're hitting microscopic return on investment.

Conversely, if you've pulled enough units to get to this point, you probably have plenty of TMs in the backlog. They're 100% reliable power boosts. No, Arsha's Talisman isn't as good as Aileen, but I know I'll get one in... what is it, 6000 lapis or something, plus four other TMs? Spend some time on the summon simulator to see how many off-banner Aileens you're pulling with 6000 lapis.

Which leads nicely to your other point: 10+1 summons are pretty bad deals for all of the same reasons I just outlined. You do them for the guaranteed 4* that will hopefully either be the banner 4* or the banner 5* (or Gilgamesh or whatever, but not Lightning). Otherwise they're nearly twice the price of 11 dailies. It can be the best option and a bad deal at the same time.

This isn't even getting into nebulous personal stuff like 'I like to summon each day' or 'This banner has my favs' or 'I have enough disposable income to do 10+1s on FFT3' and the such. Some people prefer a safer return on investment (TMs), others prefer the low chance of high reward (daily pull), others will hoard multiples of 5,000 for valuable banners or even for the 3% rainbow change.

Like the Matrix, no one can be told what the value of lapis is. You have to see it for yourself (based on unit luck, unit counts, nostalgic fetishism for sprites, annual salary, susceptibility to gambling, desire to impress people on Reddit/GAF, etc.).

while i agree technically..
given the current rainbow pull situation, 10+1 gives you a slim chance of hope, whereas tix pull is really "yolo mode"..
but yes, daily are usually NOT worth it..
250 crystal is a lot... I'd rather buy a tix (via this 300cryst for 2 tix, or via events.. 300 cryst for a tix? dunno at times i cave, at times i don't) and use my chances there..
IF the game had some sort of mileage pull system (e.g. every 100 or even 200 pulls with tix//lapis you get a random 5*), as is, this is just TOO random..
plenty of games have a mileage system.. ffbe? nope...

luckily i have a LOT of defensive tmr and mage oriented tmr to farm, so worst case i can farm the tmr :)
 
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