Hippopuncher12
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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope
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witchedwiz
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Clearly you're not-hippo!
Yeah he is a trial smoother and while you don't exactly need to bring him together with the trifecta, he unloads the work each one of them have, so depending on how you want to tackle future trials or exploration bosses, he will have all the tools needed to make sure they can do their job.
I see him as the ultimate support for your support, making trials as secure as possible.
Since we are using the trifecta as an example, WoL can break and defend the entire party against PHY attacks. Tilith can AoE heal/revive/mitigate elements and provide MP. Rikku can AoE reraise and provide the mitigation/elemental resistances with set up. All of them work very well together but all of them will run out of MP eventually, this is a situation that Tilith/Rikku can circumvent as long as they are not busy having to heal or set up the reaise.
Zargarbanzo alone can make sure all of them will always be in good condition to keep up what they need to do, be providing MP or taking the turn to do his own healing/mitigation. The core survival skills will be interchangeable, allowing for a lot of room to breath in tight situations.
While he guarantees that your trifecta never runs out of juice, your dps can freely attack together with the friend unit until the boss is dead.
I see him as the ultimate support for your support, making trials as secure as possible.
Since we are using the trifecta as an example, WoL can break and defend the entire party against PHY attacks. Tilith can AoE heal/revive/mitigate elements and provide MP. Rikku can AoE reraise and provide the mitigation/elemental resistances with set up. All of them work very well together but all of them will run out of MP eventually, this is a situation that Tilith/Rikku can circumvent as long as they are not busy having to heal or set up the reaise.
Zargarbanzo alone can make sure all of them will always be in good condition to keep up what they need to do, be providing MP or taking the turn to do his own healing/mitigation. The core survival skills will be interchangeable, allowing for a lot of room to breath in tight situations.
While he guarantees that your trifecta never runs out of juice, your dps can freely attack together with the friend unit until the boss is dead.
Imo, Zarg's was released at the wrong time.
If he was released 2 months ago and came before 6* Tilith, 6* WoL and Rikku, he would've been the God tier of support units.
The 4* trinity are what made him lose the most points. Those 3 complement each other so well that no one can justify replacing 1 of them for Zarg.
The one thing I completely agree with on one reddit comment is, Zarg is very much like Noctis now. Great utility but not a specialist on any field. Which currently is not ideal. Zarg and Noctis are specially good for beginners who doesn't have enough specialist to cover certain roles.
Thanks all for B-Day wishes!
Happy birthday Hippo
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
This was something I noticed unfortunately very soon after getting my Noctis from the guaranteed 5* pull. My Orlandeau hit 900+ ATK shortly after pulling him, then pulled a Wilhelm and already have Rikku and Tillith. That basically puts Agrias as my last slot by default and most of what gets swapped around isn't going to be opening slots for Noctis either.
Alkez
Member
Hmm interesting. A lot of it seems to be the fact he's a 5* base. This I can understand. I don't think he's as game changing as you would like a 5* to be. Though I predict his enhancements to be beast, but it's way too early to talk about that.
Some of it seems to be about replacing The Leading Man. Obviously (from my avatar) I wasn't thrilled but I'm not going to hate his "replacement" because of it lol. I can understand it but it's a little childish imo.
Some of it seems to be comparing him to enhanced Ramza which has always been an issue in this community, even over here in our thread. Anyone else remember when Chizuru was "future proof" lmao.
It's a tough one. If I pulled him I don't think I would use him personally, until enhancements at least. But at the same time unless I was chasing a particular unit I wouldn't be upset that I pulled him either. Though I guess it all has to do with your 5* situation. The only 5* that I really could use now is Marie. There are others for TMs, but for actual usage there's 1 unit that provides substantial value. So any 5*s I get between now and my next chase target are just bonus units. But if you don't have that many, or don't have ones that are really bringing you value, and then you pulled Zarg, I can understand feeling pretty mad because you needed a game changer and he is not it.
What happens when a trial requires a 5 man crew? You're only left with 1 slot for dps. That's not gonna work.
Ramza enhancements or Roy, the evade equipments that will allow WoL to get 100% evasion, Ayaka/Fina and finally Sakura.
Those aside, is there anything that could be considered game changing coming in the foreseeable future?
Unless Gumi creates a unit that either match or exceed what any of those can do, people's first reaction will probably be ''it's trash''.
Those aside, is there anything that could be considered game changing coming in the foreseeable future?
Unless Gumi creates a unit that either match or exceed what any of those can do, people's first reaction will probably be ''it's trash''.
Sack the one you think is less needed. I don't think all trials will require constant PHY mitigation + elemental mitigation + MP administration. Zarg will still have tools for pretty much all situations.
Alkez
Member
Yeah. I'm tempted to not play this week. Just a complete waste of time. I don't know why they do this nonsense. It's like they want arena to take half an hour.
It means that I'd be disappointed by a 5* support, since that doesn't do much to change the reach of my capabilities. That's the first part of the thesis as to why Zarg is seen as disappointing. The other...
is that Zarg has a lot of strong support abilities, but not that one singular ability that makes you go, "Wow, I really want him for that!" Most of his abilities have stronger versions seen elsewhere: Bastion -> Love You All, Word of Law -> HyperNulAll, Rejuvenate -> Use elixir.
Archadian Light was probably intended to be that, but 60% to all doesn't look all that special when you have Delita's enhanced Meditate for 65% MAG/SPR, Cecil's LB for 74% STR/DEF/SPR, Rikku's LB for 74% DEF/SPR, and so on. The ailment resists are a nice bonus, but the Blind and Disease resists are rather wasted. They aren't loss of control ailments so they're more inconveniences as opposed to run ending disasters. In addition, most relevant physical units are already immune to Blind and for those that aren't there's Ifrit's Claw. For Disease, instead of resistance to a debuff that lowers stats by 10%, most would rather just have 10% more stats. If Archadian Light was 70% or had a longer duration (or both) you wouldn't see this much hate.
Then there is building him out which is a pain for most players. I don't even know the purpose of giving him such an awkward MAG build other than for flavor or to neuter the damage on Word of Law. It would be one thing if, say, he had a MAG-based Fire Hammer as his TMR or a Mog King reward to help with that, but we don't. Instead his TMR is a tanking helm that is way down on everyone's priority list.
I have beaten most trials shortly after release, which is why I get confused and slightly annoyed when someone with double Orlandu can't figure out how to crack Dark Espers. I beat Titan Trial by leveraging my 5* max Cupid Luna for breaks and chainsaw chains. I have the imagination. I'm starting to lack the will. I said it in the previous thread, but slow rolling these trials is painful, and it's getting worse with each one.
A sufficiently stacked ATK-based Zargabaath can one-shot every single enemy in ELT with Full Break support from Vaan (or Liberating Flash from Ashe). If you aren't BIS or close to it you might need Attack Song from Siren for the last enemy.
Of course if you have a friend unit Zarga throwing down Hero Crest on yours (or vice versa if they're strong enough) then it's basically a wrap.
Bring Dragon Killer, Excalibur, and as much ATK boost stuff as you can. Large Sword Mastery, Dark Knight's Soul + Phantasmal Blade (or better), etc. Shoutouts to qon for the build.
Exactly. A versatile unit is great, unless all the specialists have already been out and made available to you and are more likely to be acquired and have more unique utility and...
This is likely why I'm not too fussed. I don't need anyone, so it's not a 'troll rainbow' or whatever to me. He might be riding the bench but hey, he can join his 'replacement', Ramza, on it!
I agree with almost all of this post but I really want to highlight that for a 5* base his TM is basura. I have trouble seeing myself ever letting him into Earth Shrine, nevermind eating Moogles.
~15 tickets and 2 4* tickets got me a mess of Vaans and 3 Raslers. I'm set on bonus units, especially as my TT can solo ELT. I would have liked an Ashe but I don't need her. I have better chaining options and her TM is still inferior to magistral crest except when you need light resist. 3 Rasler TM's on the other hand...WoL is going to become a brick shithouse. +90% hp and +60% def oh lordy.
Oh, also did the free 10+1 finally. It was mostly crap except for a dupe Rikku.
Oh, also did the free 10+1 finally. It was mostly crap except for a dupe Rikku.
just wanted to thank you for this, you basically made chaining easy mode for me lol
Also today my free pull was a rainbow!!! It ended up being a 2nd Rem though, wouldve liked a 5* I dont have (or maybe 2nd orlandu cough cough)
Broseybrose
Member
Total shit luck...
25 tix + (2) 4* tix + 11 pull = 1 Rasler and 11 Vaans.
Never so much have I had the "I give up" attitude toward this game as I do now.
25 tix + (2) 4* tix + 11 pull = 1 Rasler and 11 Vaans.
Never so much have I had the "I give up" attitude toward this game as I do now.
Yeah thanks, I'm already clrearing it with full bonus units. With a friend Zarsbgsdas reaching 425% bonus, really nice.
Also, two separate Thunderbugs can appear in one run (And/or golden bombs), just had a 7 battle run with two thunderbugs.
Thanks Rixa, worked out nicely with your Ace - that LB move hits hard.
Also the first Battle where i could use 6* WoL - he is great.
PS. Happy Birthday Hippo...that last Multi of yours was crazy lol.
Oh wow...completely missed that one - thanks, will look into it later. Seems like there isnt a "easy" answer to that question heh.
Those are the best kinda pulls though...that unexpected awesomeness lol.
I pulled my Gilgamesh like this....was so happy back then and he is still my MVP.
StrikeNinja24
Banned
Yeah the rates really are trash this time around.
2 Gold so 2,37% chances to land on Ashe. At least it's not Tilith level but still really low.
StrikeNinja24
Banned
I'm happy I got one with just 7 or so tickets after that dismal 10 +1 pull
DrROBschiz
Member
Muku
Member
Happy Birthday, for real, Hippo! LOL.
Congrats on all the pulls! Going back in save mode after Tidus. ;_; Guess I'll be waiting on OK next. So, can't afford to give up any resources for these banner units. Plus, who am I kidding. I won't get them ON banner. I'll be getting them on a banner I want actual on banner units and Ashe will be raining from the sky.
Edit: Husband told me this morning he pulled a Sabin. I was like "Well, that means I'm getting a Clyne." I think he thought I was kidding. I seriously though I was going to get one. Did the free pull. Blue -> Clyne. CALLED IT!
Congrats on all the pulls! Going back in save mode after Tidus. ;_; Guess I'll be waiting on OK next. So, can't afford to give up any resources for these banner units. Plus, who am I kidding. I won't get them ON banner. I'll be getting them on a banner I want actual on banner units and Ashe will be raining from the sky.
Edit: Husband told me this morning he pulled a Sabin. I was like "Well, that means I'm getting a Clyne." I think he thought I was kidding. I seriously though I was going to get one. Did the free pull. Blue -> Clyne. CALLED IT!
Started to plateau during week's 4 and 5 (though I wasn't as invested in the anniv. event as I did with the others). At rank 42, got WoL to 6* lvl72. My pulls including 10+1, guaranteed 5* and 4* tix for the previous banner and this current banner have yielded nothing special (though I did get Gilgamesh during all of that and used my moogles to get Genji Glove for my Setzer). I couldn't even get Wakka, which I actually really want because his TMR is really good for Setzer. Hopefully moving forward, my early game luck returns. I'd like at least one 5* banner character.
Shouta
Member
Zarg seems like he's really fantastic. Until Ramza's enhancements get released, he's probably the best buffer while backing up the party with element resist/damage cut as well as tossing in damage. He's not going to do as much as the DPS only chars but he should do a solid amount for a support one.
WoL, Rikku, Zarg, DPS, DPS, Healer would be a pretty great setup with Zarg finishing chains for a little bit of extra damage between buffing duties.
WoL, Rikku, Zarg, DPS, DPS, Healer would be a pretty great setup with Zarg finishing chains for a little bit of extra damage between buffing duties.
Alkez
Member
LOL. Today was definitely one of those days. I pulled all of the usual trash. Sabin, Anzelm, Freya, Fran...it wasn't a good morning lol.
Zera_Bloodwinter
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Arica_jade
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Did a Vaantastic 10+1 pull today
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Thanks, Rixa!
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Thanks, Rixa!
Did a Vaantastic 10+1 pull today
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There I fixed it, you need to copy the link in picture (click right mouse button in pic and choose copy image address).
That really is alot of Vaans
Glad that it did work for you
Did a Vaantastic 10+1 pull today
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Thanks, Rixa!
That's a lot of painted abs.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
Please follow my advice. Going forward, any unique event materia for units during an event please be sure to get them. Don't be like Zera who pulls a fucking Rem and did not pick up Siphon Delta. Damn near broke the door when I punched it.
Please follow my advice. Going forward, any unique event materia for units during an event please be sure to get them. Don't be like Zera who pulls a fucking Rem and did not pick up Siphon Delta. Damn near broke the door when I punched it.
For Arena? It's not really a big deal as you pretty much one round everyone anyway. Now look at me, that completely neglected Tabby Suit and Soul Crown.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Thanks guys.
Is Zarg's TM worth Farming? The 15% elemental looks nice but the Def/Spr seems a little weak.
Thanks guys.
Is Zarg's TM worth Farming? The 15% elemental looks nice but the Def/Spr seems a little weak.
It's pretty solid since a tank's weakness is usually magic. Probably shouldn't be at the top of your priorities though
Awesome. I think I'm doing three Rikkus, Ashe, and Rasler next after this batch finishes.
Zarg can wait until I do Black Cowl 5 & 6.
Glad that it did work for you
btw. What are you running right now ? Since you also need to level a bunch of units...Cactuar Dunes this weekend and Henne Mines after that or just Henne now and hoping to get enough exp from the Cactuar Raid down the line ?
Muku
Member
Got DW on my alt just a bit ago. TT is now up to 728 Mag. Feels good. She blows shit up. She's babysitting my 2 Vaan (at one point had 3.. merged them... then decided to go down to 1 months ago... daily today though was Vaan just in time), some pretty shit low guests I've found, and Fohlen and Delita just sit there and look pretty. TT is the boss now in this group obviously. Gave my 1% Moogle this morning to Ace to work on that for her.
Going to spoil TT.
Feels good. She blows shit up. She's babysitting my 2 Vaan (at one point had 3.. merged them... then decided to go down to 1 months ago... daily today though was Vaan just in time), some pretty shit low guests I've found, and Fohlen and Delita just sit there and look pretty. TT is the boss now in this group obviously. Gave my 1% Moogle this morning to Ace to work on that for her.Going to spoil TT.
Zippedpinhead
Member
If the leading man comes out next week (and Ashe stays as his 4*), I'm dropping an 11 pull.
Spent most of the mog king tickets and got not a whole lot...
Spent most of the mog king tickets and got not a whole lot...
Happy Birthday for today Hippo! Hope you're enjoying your crazy good luck.
Firstly, Welcome! What's your player ID? I'll go ahead and make one room to add you. Secondly...damn that's a crazy amount of Vaans...
Did a Vaantastic 10+1 pull today
Sorry, new here and not sure why image is broken
Thanks, Rixa!
Firstly, Welcome! What's your player ID? I'll go ahead and make one room to add you. Secondly...damn that's a crazy amount of Vaans...
indigo-cyclops
Member
Same here. At least I got Rasler and Ashe because otherwise I'd be very disappointed with my pulls!
Luck comes and goes though. I do hope Balthier is coming next week tho
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Probably buffed too, considering they are buffing almost all non-chaining 5* characters.