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Final Fantasy: Record Keeper |OT3| When having no onions makes you cry
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You have Zidane Burst coming out in 2 weeks.
HungOverOnATues
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Cool. Thanks for the heads up. IX is one of my weaker realms for synergy so this is would probably be worth a shot even if I don't end up getting it.
cpp_is_king
Member
Torment Dungeon is pretty rough, don't think i can beat it. Tried with mage team but not enough hones. Phys might work better for me but not sure I want to try again until i see strat posted
Fujin/Raijin banners have a lot of nice stuff on them but I don't know if they'll be as hyped.
zerokoolpsx
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I'm looking at the torment dungeons. Omg, 200 and 250 difficulty. I don't have Bartz, Gilgamesh, Lenna or Faris to 99 either. I don't have any relics for either Galuf or ExDeath. So they are like the old Nightmare dungeons? They come back every month with a new realm? I don't think a party of 80's will cut it this time.
CM's will likely be easier when MC3's for characters are unlocked.
I'm not worried about d200, but d250 seems crazy lol.
I'm not gonna bother with the Torment dungeon for this yet.
I could possibly run my Holy team with Lenna as a second healer, but then I would have to use trash abilities to meet the mastery requirement, and most of my FFV characters with solid gear are still stuck at 80. Unlocking Faris MCIII and getting a good SB for Lenna/Gilgamesh for the future would help a ton.
I could possibly run my Holy team with Lenna as a second healer, but then I would have to use trash abilities to meet the mastery requirement, and most of my FFV characters with solid gear are still stuck at 80. Unlocking Faris MCIII and getting a good SB for Lenna/Gilgamesh for the future would help a ton.
Beat the d200 torment. had to exit out once and come back in after tweaking.
Dropped gilgamesh and brought out beatrix instead.
Krile was on fire bsb duty, onion and beatrix on earth and bartz on ice detail.
Brought yshtola with bsb cure, but lenna might have been better with ssb heal? i dunno, hers raises resistance. Dunno if i can do the d250 one. the 5 rosetta stones were welcome tho, loved that. Kriles whip just about maxed.
Dropped gilgamesh and brought out beatrix instead.
Krile was on fire bsb duty, onion and beatrix on earth and bartz on ice detail.
Brought yshtola with bsb cure, but lenna might have been better with ssb heal? i dunno, hers raises resistance. Dunno if i can do the d250 one. the 5 rosetta stones were welcome tho, loved that. Kriles whip just about maxed.
Something weird happened while fighting Rubicante. I brought Yshtola's Burst and started pounding on the guy ignoring the counter mechanics, so, with the bubble up you're not supposed to receive SB charge, right? Then why the heck at the end of the fight I could cast two full BSSBs for all characters and the ones having Ace Striker/Battleforged could cast THREE? I received virtually no damage once the bubbles were up, mind you, and after they broke I had full charges. It didn't seem the charges came from outgoing damage alone, but probably I'm wrong.
I need to test this further, but it seems strange. Maybe a bug?
I need to test this further, but it seems strange. Maybe a bug?
zerokoolpsx
Member
Didn't you have 6/9 before? Did you get some dupes?
6/9? umm, don't think so, no. I did 5 multis when the banner first came out and got everything on it (and quite a few dupes) except yshtola's burst :/ Scrounged up enough for one more multi (using the new years 25 as a base) and finally got my kitty's burst.
Huh? It sounds normal? Ace/Battleforged greatly increase SB gain from doing Attack/Abilities, so it's normal for them to have more SB gain than those without the RM.
Bubble only prevents SB gains from taking damage. You still get gauge from performing actions.
Star Falcon
Member
Any characters i should prioritise using an empty MC3 on? I have the following at 80:
Pecil
Bartz
Faris
Terra
Celes
Cloud
Squall
Lightning
Ramza
I have some old SSBs for Bartz (Excalibur), Lightning (Peacemaker) and Ramza (Platinum Sword) which i'm not sure how popular they still are. I also have the new(?) SSB for Faris with Imperil Wind.
Pecil
Bartz
Faris
Terra
Celes
Cloud
Squall
Lightning
Ramza
I have some old SSBs for Bartz (Excalibur), Lightning (Peacemaker) and Ramza (Platinum Sword) which i'm not sure how popular they still are. I also have the new(?) SSB for Faris with Imperil Wind.
Star Falcon
Member
Thanks, Luneth one seems super handy...
Ive done most my CMs with lvl 65 ppl. So you should overkill it if you have some synergy weapons/good hones/soulbreaks.
ActStriker
Member
Or you can be like me and wait until you get a burst for someone useful.
And then proceed to not unlock their MC3 anyway.
So far I've only used my MC3 lodes on Luneth (for the RM) and Y'shtola (b/c I got her BSB)
And then proceed to not unlock their MC3 anyway.
So far I've only used my MC3 lodes on Luneth (for the RM) and Y'shtola (b/c I got her BSB)
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
Speaking of, when do we get Greg's MC3 and more 4* motes?
Greg MC3 comes in the next batch next week.
4* motes are given with apocalypse multiplayer stages. We should get the next one with XIV bonus battles.
cpp_is_king
Member
Do mote dungeons ever come back around? I'm starved even for 3* motes, but it seems like everyone else has no problems diving new characters through the 3* stages into the 4* stages.
They're on a cycle like the nightmares. When they come back they will all be open.
Starwolf_UK
Member
So with torment dungeons not costing stamina until you beat them you can hit and run for SB gauge. Still that will make it all the worse if you lose as you lose all the time that takes. I think later on they introduce enemies you can't flee from or something.
A funny thing regarding record spheres is Krille. Her Bard sphere uses 3* motes despite being unlocked like a 4*. Enjoy equip instruments and 4* bard abilities on the cheap I guess...plus 4* mote stats for spending 3* motes.
A funny thing regarding record spheres is Krille. Her Bard sphere uses 3* motes despite being unlocked like a 4*. Enjoy equip instruments and 4* bard abilities on the cheap I guess...plus 4* mote stats for spending 3* motes.
Both Torment dungeons down. Really tough and enjoyable content, and I'm glad it's there since the game was becoming a bit rote as of late due to the power creep. Really reminds me of pre-SSB days of hanging on by a thread with bosses and running super low on abilities.
Barely made it through D250, Maria kicked the bucket about 70 percent of the way through and Alphy had to do all the DPS while Aeris had to use her BSB nearly every round to keep the healing up.
OK running Wraith and Entrust let me keep my AOE DPS with Tiamat going through the fight and Maria was there to meet medal conditions and add extra damage using her BSB. I don't think I could've beaten the dungeon without Shell, Wall and Magic Break,
Barely made it through D250, Maria kicked the bucket about 70 percent of the way through and Alphy had to do all the DPS while Aeris had to use her BSB nearly every round to keep the healing up.
OK running Wraith and Entrust let me keep my AOE DPS with Tiamat going through the fight and Maria was there to meet medal conditions and add extra damage using her BSB. I don't think I could've beaten the dungeon without Shell, Wall and Magic Break,
cpp_is_king
Member
I just realized I have Strago's Sabre Soul (#608) and Fran's Shatterheart (#610). If you stack both of these two with Full Break (#609), and then apply Magic(#601)/Power(#603)/Armor(#604) on top of it, is that basically the same as 3 stacked Full Breaks?
Wouldn't you just be doing 9999 / hit at that point like the old school VIT0 exploits?
Wouldn't you just be doing 9999 / hit at that point like the old school VIT0 exploits?
Starwolf_UK
Member
Like most combat things in the game there is a softcap and a hardcap and that applies to debuffs as well. Old ass thread but I don't think it has changed a lot:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKe...hanges_to_the_combat/?st=ixhxkdr1&sh=ffc48884
However, remember harder bosses have break resists which make reaching the softcap very hard even with breakdown+full breakdown+other debuff.
HungOverOnATues
Member
Any boss that you'd consider employing this on would have break resistance cutting each break value in half.
Full Break -30% => -15%
Power/Armor Breakdown/Shatterheart -40% => -20%
Magic/Mental Breakdown/Sabre Soul -50% => -25%
Which leaves you with:
DEF = 0.85*0.8*0.75 = 0.51
RES = 0.85*0.75*0.75 = 0.48
ATK = 0.85*0.8*0.8 = 0.54
MAG = 0.85*0.75*0.8 = 0.51
All of which are above their respective soft caps (ATK/MAG = 0.35, DEF/RES = 0.3). Due to break resistances, bosses having very high stats, and the way the stat soft caps work in this game, it's not quite as effective as you were imagining. They're still useful SBs though - I've regularly used Agrias' Cleansing Strike (-50% ATK/MAG) since I'd gotten it almost a year ago.
You guys are too good for me ;_;
I took a 3 months break from the game and now I can't do anything because I didn't get MC3 for my characters.. I just have Cloud's and Aerith's thanks to give aways/casino. Ultimate versions of bosses destroy me since all my abilities are rather 3 or 4 stars and I don't have enough of them to kill the bosses (who also completely destroy me anyway).
The good thing is, I've gotten every single item out of the casino for this festival event so I'll be able to focus on the new dungeons (I restarted playing for this event actually).
I'm such a scrub :/
I took a 3 months break from the game and now I can't do anything because I didn't get MC3 for my characters.. I just have Cloud's and Aerith's thanks to give aways/casino. Ultimate versions of bosses destroy me since all my abilities are rather 3 or 4 stars and I don't have enough of them to kill the bosses (who also completely destroy me anyway).
The good thing is, I've gotten every single item out of the casino for this festival event so I'll be able to focus on the new dungeons (I restarted playing for this event actually).
I'm such a scrub :/
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
You can do pretty much everything with L80 characters. In fact, you can probably do everything (relic dependent). If you have leftover Mythril stashed away, you might want to try pulling on XIV or the OSBfest banners.
The Torment dungeons, especially the Cid Missions for them, are the hardest content available, which many people won't clear. That's why they rotate, just like the Nightmare Dungeons; you can attempt them later on.
I'm not even attempting the Torment dungeosn yet, I'm trying to clear the Ultima bosses so that I can get a shot at a new memory crystal.
I have poor equipment, poor relics (vecause most of the very high level relics were gated behind Ultimates which I have never beaten so far).
But hey, at least I'm not spending on the game so I can't really complain
This orbfest was a total shitshow for me in terms of orbs (even with some refreshes on later phases I was still getting one Gigantaur every ~300-400 stamina or so which is fucking absurd), but at least I'm back up to having everyone at level caps including all of my MC3s (which are spent right now) with all RM's obtained and SB's mastered. So I'm not honing anything anytime soon, but at least leveling is done which is nice.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
OSB fest has been pretty good to me, got Terra OSB, Refia BSB, Maria BSB, Eiko BSB, Agrias BSB, a couple random uniques, and the crown jewel, two OSBs in the same pull, Butz and Tyro. I'm only planning to do 1 or 2 pulls on the last banner, would absolutely love to come away with Onion Knight BSB.
Is Edward's BSB any good? I didn't even know I had it until I started mastering Soul Breaks. I knew I had his Faithga/Hastega, but not his BSB. I never run a pure support character; I always use Tyro for that. Edward's is the only holy burst I have though. Both commands are only single hit, but it has Imperil Holy and a large attack boost when first used.
Star Falcon
Member
I was in a similar boat (haven't played since April/May) but just managed to do the CM for Ultimate+ FF5. Which fight in particular is giving trouble? I have however dumped about 30 mythril yesterday and today into stamina refreshes for the orbfest to improve a few abilities that were not upto scratch.I'm not even attempting the Torment dungeosn yet, I'm trying to clear the Ultima bosses so that I can get a shot at a new memory crystal.
I have poor equipment, poor relics (vecause most of the very high level relics were gated behind Ultimates which I have never beaten so far).
But hey, at least I'm not spending on the game so I can't really complain
Starwolf_UK
Member
Orbfest over for me. Used 3-5 refreshes (don't remember) to make sure I got all the casino chips. I have 12320 now so that is about 100 stamina "wasted" but proves I did need to refresh to get enough chips for everything.
All in all an interesting idea to softcap orbfest itself in a way.
The dark matter equipment reforge also helps you get some extra mileage out of 3*++ and 4*++ equipment.
As for abilities. While it is nice to have 5* at R3, R2 can usually make do but having missed ++ battles giving these away you have the added cost of getting them to R1 so you have to tread more carefully. Also BSSBs being a thing take pressure off needing high ability ranks but you need the BSSBs in the first place of course
All in all an interesting idea to softcap orbfest itself in a way.
While pulling is obviously the best way to get equipment save your mythril for good all round banners for you and pull on those (but don't go crazy, that just leads to regret...and tin armour). Lucky draws are a very good idea as well. These generally only come around with dungeon updates as of late and they half price, one pull only 11 relic draws and the last one was curated to have SSB or better relics.I'm not even attempting the Torment dungeosn yet, I'm trying to clear the Ultima bosses so that I can get a shot at a new memory crystal.
I have poor equipment, poor relics (vecause most of the very high level relics were gated behind Ultimates which I have never beaten so far).
But hey, at least I'm not spending on the game so I can't really complain
The dark matter equipment reforge also helps you get some extra mileage out of 3*++ and 4*++ equipment.
As for abilities. While it is nice to have 5* at R3, R2 can usually make do but having missed ++ battles giving these away you have the added cost of getting them to R1 so you have to tread more carefully. Also BSSBs being a thing take pressure off needing high ability ranks but you need the BSSBs in the first place of course
I decided to start playing this since I'm also playing BE. I've been reading the guides in the OP. Following the reddit one. Who should I pick in the Hall of Rites? Should I wait to pull relics before choosing someone. Seems like I should pull the player choice 2 according to reddit.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help.
cpp_is_king
Member
Running a couple of mythril refreshes on equipment dungeon before orbfest ends so that I can upgrade future relics.
Keeper's Choice 2 has a bunch of good relics to build a team around, and the bonus list has some generally useful stuff like armor with shared aoe heal soul breaks you can use with anyone. It's a good choice.
If you go that route use your hero souls on whoever you get items for. In fact, even if you don't get items for them the characters featured on that banner (Bartz, Terra, Gilgamesh, Vanille, Ramza, Squall) are generally pretty good in their respective roles.
Bartz and Gilgamesh are available in the 2 difficulty dungeon of the current FFV event, though, so you can just grab them there and save yourself hero souls. Try to get them and the other currently available event characters; should be easily doable before they expire.
Yes. Best Burst to stack ATK with Vessel of Fate.
Fuck these two last bosses of the XIV dungeon. I couldn't master any of them and I will have to throw 60 stamina in the trash.
These slow/poison requirements are atrocious, the chance to work is pathetic and they just become a fucking nuisance instead of a challenge.
After more than 5 resets I just gave up and hoped I could master without them, of course I couldn't.
These slow/poison requirements are atrocious, the chance to work is pathetic and they just become a fucking nuisance instead of a challenge.
After more than 5 resets I just gave up and hoped I could master without them, of course I couldn't.
cpp_is_king
Member
Slowga works like 100% of the time, don't use the regular slow ability. For poison put the Poison Shell ability on Tyro (Other -> Group 2 -> 4*)