I know how it is, it is so fucking easy, I can kill it in less than 2 minutes if it doesn't do bay. I have my five dark matters now so I just need to farm a few more ingots to have enough money for all the upgrading I need to do(treasure hunter trophy) and be done with this. I need 2,163,000 Gil to buy the gilgamesh shop weapons and adamantites, and that's not counting the other catalysts + materials to upgrade. I'm sitting at 2.4MIL atm so I'm thinking I need at least 3.5M to have enough.
I've been really lucky with Platinum Ingots and I have all the Gilgamesh weapons... I actually NEED Traps only got 3 but I have Fang's Ultimate and I'm going to Disasemble it and make the other 3 Ultimates I'm missing. I want to get EVERY Accessory and then sell / dismantle them and use that Gil to upgrade my weapons. I'm gonna make a seperate save-file, but 3.3 million for my 4 Dark Matters? That's steep... and I may not have enough even after selling EVERYTHING.
Is there any time efficient strategy for beating the Adamantoise/tortise without using the summon trick? That works just fine obviously, but having to fight other battles to replenish TP takes a bit of time.
argh, i love the weapon upgrade system and all, but it's so frustrating not knowing what i should use my components on! i can't make decisions, because i know i'll do something wrong
please... help me.... im losing my mind lol.
at least tell me if the Gladius is worth upgrading! can it be turned into Lightning's best weapon later on, or is that some other weapon..? what about Fang, which weapon should i upgrade for her?
i'm at chapter 11, trying to do hunts etc but almost every monster kills me in 5 seconds. shit is starting to make me sad. i really dislike dying so much. i can't believe a Final Fantasy game is ten times harder than Demon's Souls!
I started a shared Google doc with a weapon upgrade chart and calc function. I haven't been able to finish it because I've been making major home improvements this past week, but feel free to place any missing values.
The formulas are all in place, all you really need to change once the correct values are there are your current level and your current exp.
Is there any time efficient strategy for beating the Adamantoise/tortise without using the summon trick? That works just fine obviously, but having to fight other battles to replenish TP takes a bit of time.
Here's what I've been using, works beautifully (2:00 per kill in Eden, either save/reload or run back to respawn). Just note that I have maxed crystarium and ultimate weapons for everyone (max for Fang); YMMV if you're still working up to that point.
Fang/Light/Hope
Fang & Light with Genji Glove/Royal Armlet/Imperial Armlet/Aurora Scarf
Hope with 2x Royal Armlet/Imperial Armlet/Catalog
1. SYN/SYN/SYN, get haste & protect on everyone
2. RAV/RAV/RAV, stagger one leg to about 650% or so (maybe more depending on your stats)
3. COM/MED/MED, Highwind that leg
4. Repeat 2 & 3 on other leg
5. SAB/SAB/SAB when he drops, hit him w/imperil, slow, deshell and deprotect
6. SYN/SYN/SYN, bravera/faithra everyone
7. RAV/RAV/RAV, stagger at least to 900%
8. COM/COM/COM until he's dead (might want a second COM/COM/COM to paradigm cancel just in case)
This is the only strategy that really works comfortably for me. Until I had all of this together I couldn't beat him consistently. Now I'm killing them quickly but they keep dropping freaking traps! I need gil!
lol I could have done without that guys comments, but yeah, I feel weird thinking that one of the highlights of Vanille is her moans, and groans, and screams (I think she did it randomly whenever I used her in a fight, hence why I couldnt use her).
This times a million. When I was using her and Sazh I was hoping for the enemy to take her out as soon as the battle starts so I wouldn't have to listen to her annoying moans and groans during battle. When she was KO I refuse to revive her.
Wooo! Finally got to chapter 11, though it's a shame the overworld is so fugly compared to, let's say, the canyon part before the Eidolon fight.
I dreaded the Bahamut fight at the end of chapter 10 since I heard so much shit about it, but I finished him easily on my first try. Alexander, on the other hand, which was supposedly an easy boss, was remarkably hard.
Had to fight him 3 times before offing him, ugh.
Anyway, the Behemoth Kings on the field are slaughtering me; am I even supposed to be able to finish them off with ease now, or should I return later?
I know how it is, it is so fucking easy, I can kill it in less than 2 minutes if it doesn't do bay. I have my five dark matters now so I just need to farm a few more ingots to have enough money for all the upgrading I need to do(treasure hunter trophy) and be done with this. I need 2,163,000 Gil to buy the gilgamesh shop weapons and adamantites, and that's not counting the other catalysts + materials to upgrade. I'm sitting at 2.4MIL atm so I'm thinking I need at least 3.5M to have enough.
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I think I'll try and see how close I get to getting all the items and weapons now and create a separate save.
Personally whenever I fought a Shao Long Gui it used a really devastating Bay->Quake combo. Unless I switch to SEN/SEN/SEN and use Renew, it's pretty much a guaranteed Game Over for me.
New page. Also I'm a bit confused about upgrading weapons. The guide says from lvl1 to star requires 50,000 exp for first lvl. Thats what I dump into a weapon and use the catalyst to change it to the next weapon. What I don't get is how the weapon if lvl 10 or higher after adding the catalyst. Does it carry over from the previous upgrade?
There's another floor you have to shuffle around that wasn't required the first time around. Once that's in place, you need to ride the elevator from the very top of the tower down to the bottom.
Finished, thought the ending was awesome. Thought the whole game was awesome actually! Exactly what I was expecting +1.
Gonna go for the platinum, for those who have achieved it, what would you suggest is the best method of going for it?
Mark missions first or build up characters and weapons completely before going on the missions?
You have the paradigm shifts, the chain gauge, the stealth element to get pre-emptive attacks, the eidolons. That's more depth than most other FF games. It took me around 20 hours to fully understand the system.
Just beat the game. I barely understood the motives/actions of certain characters near the end of the game. Any story guide out there? Wikipedia has nothing.
Finished, thought the ending was awesome. Thought the whole game was awesome actually! Exactly what I was expecting +1.
Gonna go for the platinum, for those who have achieved it, what would you suggest is the best method of going for it?
Mark missions first or build up characters and weapons completely before going on the missions?
I finally beat mission 64! I think I have a good grip on the paradigm system now. Tutorial complete!
Sadly I only got 4 stars. Anyone 5 star this? I have 2xGeneral's belt, 1x Sylpheed ring on each of my party. Should I put more magic and physical resistance items in the 4th slots or should I add str+ items?
I think I didn't 5 star it because I didn't hit hard enough. The par time was 20 min and I beat it in 15. But still only 4 stars. Now I have the Gold watch. Would that increase the par time or only when you have the final weapons. I only have tier 2 max weapons.
I finally beat mission 64! I think I have a good grip on the paradigm system now. Tutorial complete!
Sadly I only got 4 stars. Anyone 5 star this? I have 2xGeneral's belt, 1x Sylpheed ring on each of my party. Should I put more magic and physical resistance items in the 4th slots or should I add str+ items?
I think I didn't 5 star it because I didn't hit hard enough. The par time was 20 min and I beat it in 15. But still only 4 stars. Now I have the Gold watch. Would that increase the par time or only when you have the final weapons. I only have tier 2 max weapons.
Really? So I guess I shouldn't bother with str accessories. Is your crystarium completely maxed? I only have the first three jobs maxed on everyone. The rest are a level 1 and 2.
My crystarium was maxed out, I posted my entire strategy for taking him down about a week ago (somewhere in this thread :lol ). Basically just keep poison on him and then stay in the tortoise formation unless you need to heal, and then its sent/med/sent only for as long as necessary.
Personally whenever I fought a Shao Long Gui it used a really devastating Bay->Quake combo. Unless I switch to SEN/SEN/SEN and use Renew, it's pretty much a guaranteed Game Over for me.
It's the two buffs that bay removes. It forces me to rebuff again and sometimes he does bay while I'm rebuffing and it's like a never ending game. Surviving bay+quake is not hard since I have all roles maxed out. Like I said a couple of times, though, it was simple other than that and I got my 5 dark matters in one hour.
celcius said:
My crystarium was maxed out, I posted my entire strategy for taking him down about a week ago (somewhere in this thread :lol ). Basically just keep poison on him and then stay in the tortoise formation unless you need to heal, and then its sent/med/sent only for as long as necessary.
I was just thinking about playing this game as much as I can (see everything, do everything) and since there are no in-game achievements, I was thinking about getting the Platinum Trophy. Is one playthrough enough or can I miss Tropies that I can't get later in the game. I actually really want to see everything SE created but I don't want to see stuff twice or three times... Thanks in advance!
I was just thinking about playing this game as much as I can (see everything, do everything) and since there are no in-game achievements, I was thinking about getting the Platinum Trophy. Is one playthrough enough or can I miss Tropies that I can't get later in the game. I actually really want to see everything SE created but I don't want to see stuff twice or three times... Thanks in advance!
Yes, once is enough, just don't sell any accessories you get. I think there are a few charms you can only get once that you need to upgrade for the Treasure trophy.
Am i supposed to save CP and spend only on the classes the character will benefit most on or should i just max it out as i have been doing up to chapter 7 for each character/class?
Am i supposed to save CP and spend only on the classes the character will benefit most on or should i just max it out as i have been doing up to chapter 7 for each character/class?
Am i supposed to save CP and spend only on the classes the character will benefit most on or should i just max it out as i have been doing up to chapter 7 for each character/class?
Just use it towards the three main classes until you max them out. The other classes are ridiculously expensive to upgrade so you can save them for after you max the three mains. At some point you can earn the Growth Egg to get 2X CP per battle and grind to max out all the other levels for the achievement. If you don't care about the achievement, there's no need to mess with them at all.
I was going for: a) kill it very fast or b)get killed really fast. I never really came close to dying, I even stayed under com/rav/rav for two entire attack phases without healing.
I'm a little overwhelmed by the weapon upgrading. It seems like I get a weapon once every blue moon, but upgrades can happen as often as I can afford them. What's the end-game here? Right now Lightning has a Gladius at level 11...am I going to switch that weapon out for something completely different later on or does it upgrade into her best weapon eventually? I don't want to upgrade something too much if it will be discarded later. If certain weapons are the "choice" for end-game upgrading, what are they so that I can look for them and know how to handle them?
Same goes for accessories. I have a level 5 power bracelet(sp?). Should I keep upgrading that or will it become useless at some point?
Most of the weapons are equal in one way or another. There might be one or 2 that do give better stats overall that you can get at the end of the game (ch. 12)
My battles are going relatively well but I'm not completely sure that I'm optimizing the performance of my party. Right now, with Hope and Lightning, I go in as COM(Lightning) and RAV(Hope). I stay that way unless I need to switch Hope to MED. I use COM/RAV to build the chain and I also use it to maintain the chain. Should I be doing something different? Would RAV/RAV be better to build the chain? Are Synergists that important for basic battles?
In a three-person party, should I really worry about support roles? Right now I just pretty much go in for damage, with RAV/RAV/RAV or COM/RAV/RAV depending on the characters involved. If things look like they're getting messy, I switch the most capable character over to medic for a round or two to clean everyone up and then switch back. Will RAV/RAV/RAV build the chain more effectively than COM/RAV/RAV? It seems like COM/RAV/RAV is definitely the ideal situation for an enemy that is staggered, since COM holds the chain up and knocks the enemy into the air.
What role do SYN and SAB's play? They don't seem very important to me so far. I used Vanille as SAB when
she and Sazh were moving through that industrial level with the switches. There were lots of bombs, but I used Vanille's SAB role for the robots who have high defense.
So I would start with RAV/SAB and switch to RAV/RAV when the situation (protect and shell were eliminated) was more in our favor.
There's just a lot going on with this game's battle system and development and I want to make sure that I'm doing it right lol. What I'm most confused about really is the role of COM and RAV with a building chain and with each other. Is there really any timing involved?
SAB will be pretty much vital for the later enemies when Com/Rav alone won't do a dent in damage to an enemy.
SYN will save you from being annihilated in seconds & can quicken a battle as well.
Rav/Rav/Rav will build the chain faster later on the game when you get more attacks per turn for each character, but where you are at the chain will just drop if you just use Rav/Rav. Com will always do more raw damage than a Rav also, so switch to a Com/Com when the enemy is staggered to deal extra damage if you can.
Yeah I offed mission 64 using Genji gloves and str/mag+ accessories, none of this defense stuff, until he used Wicked Whirl I pretty much wailed on his face.
Sentinels are extremely useful. They can absorb most of the damage while the other 2 party members focus on attacking. Make sure to destroy the turret and side tanks first before the main body.
A timely summon can do massive damage as well when it is staggered.
Grinding takes a bit of time, but I'll consider it an extra reward that fights like mission 64 end up being a lot more fun to me, since you have a more level playing field and more freedom to go all out.
Alright I beat it. I feel that I could have taken it out faster if I would have used Ruin as a COM instead of magic as a RAV, but whatever, it's done. Thanks.
I'm actually tempted to go back and 5-star all of the missions. The bad thing is, that will pretty much kill this game's replay value pretty fast (and it sucks that the story, for better or for worse, is not one that lends itself to replays very well since the main appeal of the story are the twists and there's not much you could catch on a second playthrough that you couldn't on the first).
How dynamic is the target time calculation? I'm trying to 5 star some of the low level marks before heading off to chapter 12, but with the increase in time requirements I'm actually getting lower scores on some of them? There don't seem to be many FAQs about, or at least the ones there are seem to focus on the higher level hunts, but I've read some general advice that equipping lower level weapons can help raise the target time, but won't that affect my party's damage output as well?
So I'm back in Gran Pulse at Chapter 13, but I don't know where to go for the missions. I went everywhere on the map, but I haven't made it to the field where you encounter your first mission yet. What am I doing wrong?
Edit: Okay, nevermind. I went up the wrong trail apparently. =/
