Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Ah, you're right :lol How is he nowadays anyway?
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Final Fantasy XIII PC |OT| Lightning must not be forgotten
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Ah, you're right :lol How is he nowadays anyway?
legacyzero
Banned
I want to believe it's because the game is pretty old.
Not sure. I don't follow his videos. That last interaction with anything TB was rolling with an outfit in Planetside 2 that loved fighting and disturbing his on the battlefield
I would assume a 4 year late port isn't his thing
From 4 days actually.
https://steamdb.info/app/292120/history/
Someone even posted a screenshot of the controller instructions (you can find them on the Steam Store Page anyway).
Ah my bad, i'm probably going for mouse / keyboard first anyway, hope it does not sucks.
Tizoc
Member
The game isn't $10. It's $16 but is currently discounted.
Don't talk outa yo ass if you don't have proof.
Also, Outland is $10, you wanna call that a lazy port too?
Tizoc
Member
Yoshi, kudos for the tips mentioned in the first post, I'm writing up a mini guide/tips and tricks and post it later here and in the Steam thread.
Thing is I'm at work so the images in the OP don't show up for me unless I use some proxy website XP. I'll post it later once I'm done with it, it's mainly the culmination of my experience with the game from the half dozen times I've played it :V
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Excellent stuff man!
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
It was my pleasure! Well deserved :3!Yoshi, received your Steam message.
Thank you! <3
Tizoc
Member
Here's what I wrote Yoshi, what do you think?
One thing to keep in mind in FF13 is that battles only award you items and CP (equivalent of Experience points in the game). You do not get any money (Gil) from battles.
Even before you start getting CP from battles, the early battles could end without getting a single item drop from an enemy. It is for this reason you should avoid any battles unless the enemies are protecting an item box (which you will see a lot of in this game, they appear as floating spheres), in the first prologue.
Dat Toriyama munay
So how do you get Gil in this game? Simply put, you either get them from item boxes, or by selling your inventory items. However, dont go selling your weapons or armor willy-nilly, as there is an Achievement/Trophy that requires you to have all equipment in the game! In a way thats not too hard to achieve but can be time consuming.
What you should primarily sell, however, are any items whose description reads sold at a premium, as these are items that generally give you the most Gil. You can also sell synth/upgrade items as well (read further down about these), which give a decent amount of Gil, though you shouldnt do that so early in the game. You really wont be spending much Gil unless you need potions, etc. but as you get accustomed to the combat system and battles, you will prob. Never spend any Gil at all until very much later.
The first (and shortest) of the 2 prologues
Now, if you skip cutscenes and avoid most battles, you can finish the first prologue within 30ish minutes unless you keep dieing to the first boss a lot.
After defeating the first boss youll start accumulating CP from battles to learn abilities and strengthen your characters.
Now the game breaks out stuff to you slowly, and of those things are Upgrading/Strengthing weapons and armor.
Weapons and tips on upgrading them
Notice how some enemies drop various odd named items like Sturdy Bone, Monstrous Fang, etc.
These items are used to upgrade your weapons and armor, but heres the thing: You dont really have to do any upgrading until much later in the game. Note that each item offers a set amount of EXP to the weapon or equipment youre upgrading and each item has level cap. To exceed this level cap, you will need to use a Catalyst item. These are gotten from enemies, treasure chests and can be bought from the specific shop, however some cost a fuckton of Gil.
Granted upgrading weapons, at least, early on will give you an advantage but I personally never had issues with the weapons and equipment I had on my characters when against bosses or enemy encounters.
At any rate, the best time to bother with upgrading weapons (upgrading armor is a waste IMO since in the endgame I would use specific equipment that werent defensive in nature) is once you are able to purchase Superconductor & Ultracompact Reactor items from the specific shop.
Each character has 10 weapons, but Ive found that focusing on one weapon to upgrade is cost efficient. I sadly cant remember exactly which weapons were the ideal ones for each character atm, BUT all weapons have 3 forms- Their initial form which is when you get that weapon, and 2 more that are achieved by upgrading them using items & catalysts.
Note that each form maxes out at a set level when upgrading it, so youll obv. need a catalyst to further upgrade it.
Ive used Drogan13s guide on GameFAQs for upgrading weapons and heres how you can upgrade each weapon to its max level along with what catalyst and items you would need to do so:
To max out initial form, you should use the following items in the following order
36 x Sturdy Bone
50 x Superconductor
Then you use 1 Scarletite to upgrade to the 2nd form. Afterwards you can use the following items in this order-
36 x Sturdy Bone
2 x Ultracompact Reactor
15 x Sturdy Bone
27 x Superconductor
to max out the 2nd form.
Try to at least transform your weapons to their 2nd form once you have access to buying the 2 items I mentioned before (Superconductor & Ultrcompact Reactor), as then theyd give you good enough stats to do greater damage to enemies.
I should point out that you may not have enough Gil to upgrade ALL your 6 characters' main weapon. As such focus on upgrading it for at least the 3 characters you are comfortable with using in battles. In my case it was Light+Fang+Vanille. Read further on on why I prefer these, as I personally recommend utilizing those 3 from the mid game onwards
Now to reach a weapons final and 3rd form (note that the name of each characters weapons 3rd form is the SAME, but their passive bonuses are different depending on the weapon), you will need 1 Trapezohedron as the catalyst which FYI is a super rare and expensive item, but dont worry about grinding for it just yet, as theres a quick-ish-er way to get more of this item.
To max out the 3rd form, the following items are recommended
36 x Sturdy Bone
26 x Ultracompact Reactor
36 x Sturdy Bone
2 x Particle Accelerator
12 x Superconductor
I should point out that SOME weapons might require some more exp or items to be maxed out, in this case, just use up any spare upgrade items youve collected along the way.
You know how everyone says the game opens up by Chapter 10/11? Well that would be the ideal time to start spending Gil to upgrade your weapons, so long as the items I mentioned are available for purchase.
CP and leveling up
Now lets back up and talk about the leveling up system. The game uses a similar concept to Final Fantasy Xs Sphere Grid system.
Basically you spend the CP you earn from battles to strengthen your character and learn abilities. Sounds simple enough, but to save yourself some time, just upgrade once you have accumulated like 1000/2000/3000/etc. amount of CP then spend them all on whatever abilities and stats are available to earn.
The game has 6 Roles, which you can read more about in the games OT here-
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=904919
Let me tell your right away that Sab and Syn are the BEST roles in the game, so if a character has that role among their main 3, get all stats and abilities for that role first, then focus on the latter.
One thing some players have complained, if not noted/had no problems with, is that the game in reality, encourages being aggressive.
By the mid to late game, I was rocking Light, Fang and Vanille especially against Hunts and bosses (at least if the boss is vulnerable to Negative status effects). Fang and Vanille are the only members who have the Sab role as part of their main 3 roles.
Utilizing these 3 characters offensive roles can lead to defeating bosses and strong enemies real quickly.
Another do-able strategy is to utilize your 2 Synergists, Sazh and Hope, and I will confess that I used their Syn roles during specific chapters and against bosses who were immune to negative status effects, along with certain enemy groups.
Now that I think about it, utilizing Light+Fang+Vanille team was more the result of me figuring out how to use these 3s roles offensively/effectively to finish most battles, so first timers might have difficulty getting accustomed to them.
None the less, its worth investing in if you could put the time into it.
Grinding/Farming for CP
Far as CP grinding is concerned, I found myself grinding for CP only on 2 occasions, aside from an endgame area:
1- Hopes house. There will 3 groups of soldiers in his house which respawn after a few seconds. Only grind here if you want to get a final set of stats and abilities for your roles before progressing in the game.
2- The Behemoth in front of the cave entrance in Gran Pulse. This Behemoth enemy will be fighting another big monster, and will ALWAYS be a pre-emptive strike, meaning you go first and will have the monsters Stagger gauge at 98/99%. This battle yields 6,600 CP, and will respawn if you leave it for a few seconds then come back to where you fought it.
There are different strategies on how to finish off this battle, but the general idea is to focus on the behemoth enemy first, preferably using Sab abilities on it. After it dies, focus on the other giant enemy.
Chances are you will die a few times before being able to win the fight, but with practice you will utilize a proper strategy and win the fight, after subsequent battles, youll be finishing these 2 monsters much faster.
Spend a few hours here to max out your stats and abilities, and then feel free to proceed with completing the Hunts/Marks and/or progressing through the game.
Note that CP maxes out at 999,999 CP. If you ever reached 900,000 CP during the late game while your main roles stats and abilities have all been learned, just dump them into your secondary roles. Only reason they cost 10 times more CP than your main roles is cuz the developers wanted to pad the game longer.
Id say thats about it for now. Keep these pointers in mind and you should have a less tedious time with the battles.
Also note, that early on in the game, you should fight every enemy group that you see, but if youre in a dungeon and the enemies seem too annoying for you to fight, feel free to ignore them but if a boss starts giving you trouble, just go back and grind for a bit. I should note that you dont really HAVE to grind for CP to beat bosses. I did a playthrough where I didnt grind for CP and managed just fine albeit with one or two retries.
One thing to keep in mind in FF13 is that battles only award you items and CP (equivalent of Experience points in the game). You do not get any money (Gil) from battles.
Even before you start getting CP from battles, the early battles could end without getting a single item drop from an enemy. It is for this reason you should avoid any battles unless the enemies are protecting an item box (which you will see a lot of in this game, they appear as floating spheres), in the first prologue.
Dat Toriyama munay
So how do you get Gil in this game? Simply put, you either get them from item boxes, or by selling your inventory items. However, dont go selling your weapons or armor willy-nilly, as there is an Achievement/Trophy that requires you to have all equipment in the game! In a way thats not too hard to achieve but can be time consuming.
What you should primarily sell, however, are any items whose description reads sold at a premium, as these are items that generally give you the most Gil. You can also sell synth/upgrade items as well (read further down about these), which give a decent amount of Gil, though you shouldnt do that so early in the game. You really wont be spending much Gil unless you need potions, etc. but as you get accustomed to the combat system and battles, you will prob. Never spend any Gil at all until very much later.
The first (and shortest) of the 2 prologues
Now, if you skip cutscenes and avoid most battles, you can finish the first prologue within 30ish minutes unless you keep dieing to the first boss a lot.
After defeating the first boss youll start accumulating CP from battles to learn abilities and strengthen your characters.
Now the game breaks out stuff to you slowly, and of those things are Upgrading/Strengthing weapons and armor.
Weapons and tips on upgrading them
Notice how some enemies drop various odd named items like Sturdy Bone, Monstrous Fang, etc.
These items are used to upgrade your weapons and armor, but heres the thing: You dont really have to do any upgrading until much later in the game. Note that each item offers a set amount of EXP to the weapon or equipment youre upgrading and each item has level cap. To exceed this level cap, you will need to use a Catalyst item. These are gotten from enemies, treasure chests and can be bought from the specific shop, however some cost a fuckton of Gil.
Granted upgrading weapons, at least, early on will give you an advantage but I personally never had issues with the weapons and equipment I had on my characters when against bosses or enemy encounters.
At any rate, the best time to bother with upgrading weapons (upgrading armor is a waste IMO since in the endgame I would use specific equipment that werent defensive in nature) is once you are able to purchase Superconductor & Ultracompact Reactor items from the specific shop.
Each character has 10 weapons, but Ive found that focusing on one weapon to upgrade is cost efficient. I sadly cant remember exactly which weapons were the ideal ones for each character atm, BUT all weapons have 3 forms- Their initial form which is when you get that weapon, and 2 more that are achieved by upgrading them using items & catalysts.
Note that each form maxes out at a set level when upgrading it, so youll obv. need a catalyst to further upgrade it.
Ive used Drogan13s guide on GameFAQs for upgrading weapons and heres how you can upgrade each weapon to its max level along with what catalyst and items you would need to do so:
To max out initial form, you should use the following items in the following order
36 x Sturdy Bone
50 x Superconductor
Then you use 1 Scarletite to upgrade to the 2nd form. Afterwards you can use the following items in this order-
36 x Sturdy Bone
2 x Ultracompact Reactor
15 x Sturdy Bone
27 x Superconductor
to max out the 2nd form.
Try to at least transform your weapons to their 2nd form once you have access to buying the 2 items I mentioned before (Superconductor & Ultrcompact Reactor), as then theyd give you good enough stats to do greater damage to enemies.
I should point out that you may not have enough Gil to upgrade ALL your 6 characters' main weapon. As such focus on upgrading it for at least the 3 characters you are comfortable with using in battles. In my case it was Light+Fang+Vanille. Read further on on why I prefer these, as I personally recommend utilizing those 3 from the mid game onwards
Now to reach a weapons final and 3rd form (note that the name of each characters weapons 3rd form is the SAME, but their passive bonuses are different depending on the weapon), you will need 1 Trapezohedron as the catalyst which FYI is a super rare and expensive item, but dont worry about grinding for it just yet, as theres a quick-ish-er way to get more of this item.
To max out the 3rd form, the following items are recommended
36 x Sturdy Bone
26 x Ultracompact Reactor
36 x Sturdy Bone
2 x Particle Accelerator
12 x Superconductor
I should point out that SOME weapons might require some more exp or items to be maxed out, in this case, just use up any spare upgrade items youve collected along the way.
You know how everyone says the game opens up by Chapter 10/11? Well that would be the ideal time to start spending Gil to upgrade your weapons, so long as the items I mentioned are available for purchase.
CP and leveling up
Now lets back up and talk about the leveling up system. The game uses a similar concept to Final Fantasy Xs Sphere Grid system.
Basically you spend the CP you earn from battles to strengthen your character and learn abilities. Sounds simple enough, but to save yourself some time, just upgrade once you have accumulated like 1000/2000/3000/etc. amount of CP then spend them all on whatever abilities and stats are available to earn.
The game has 6 Roles, which you can read more about in the games OT here-
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=904919
Let me tell your right away that Sab and Syn are the BEST roles in the game, so if a character has that role among their main 3, get all stats and abilities for that role first, then focus on the latter.
One thing some players have complained, if not noted/had no problems with, is that the game in reality, encourages being aggressive.
By the mid to late game, I was rocking Light, Fang and Vanille especially against Hunts and bosses (at least if the boss is vulnerable to Negative status effects). Fang and Vanille are the only members who have the Sab role as part of their main 3 roles.
Utilizing these 3 characters offensive roles can lead to defeating bosses and strong enemies real quickly.
Another do-able strategy is to utilize your 2 Synergists, Sazh and Hope, and I will confess that I used their Syn roles during specific chapters and against bosses who were immune to negative status effects, along with certain enemy groups.
Now that I think about it, utilizing Light+Fang+Vanille team was more the result of me figuring out how to use these 3s roles offensively/effectively to finish most battles, so first timers might have difficulty getting accustomed to them.
None the less, its worth investing in if you could put the time into it.
Grinding/Farming for CP
Far as CP grinding is concerned, I found myself grinding for CP only on 2 occasions, aside from an endgame area:
1- Hopes house. There will 3 groups of soldiers in his house which respawn after a few seconds. Only grind here if you want to get a final set of stats and abilities for your roles before progressing in the game.
2- The Behemoth in front of the cave entrance in Gran Pulse. This Behemoth enemy will be fighting another big monster, and will ALWAYS be a pre-emptive strike, meaning you go first and will have the monsters Stagger gauge at 98/99%. This battle yields 6,600 CP, and will respawn if you leave it for a few seconds then come back to where you fought it.
There are different strategies on how to finish off this battle, but the general idea is to focus on the behemoth enemy first, preferably using Sab abilities on it. After it dies, focus on the other giant enemy.
Chances are you will die a few times before being able to win the fight, but with practice you will utilize a proper strategy and win the fight, after subsequent battles, youll be finishing these 2 monsters much faster.
Spend a few hours here to max out your stats and abilities, and then feel free to proceed with completing the Hunts/Marks and/or progressing through the game.
Note that CP maxes out at 999,999 CP. If you ever reached 900,000 CP during the late game while your main roles stats and abilities have all been learned, just dump them into your secondary roles. Only reason they cost 10 times more CP than your main roles is cuz the developers wanted to pad the game longer.
Id say thats about it for now. Keep these pointers in mind and you should have a less tedious time with the battles.
Also note, that early on in the game, you should fight every enemy group that you see, but if youre in a dungeon and the enemies seem too annoying for you to fight, feel free to ignore them but if a boss starts giving you trouble, just go back and grind for a bit. I should note that you dont really HAVE to grind for CP to beat bosses. I did a playthrough where I didnt grind for CP and managed just fine albeit with one or two retries.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Tizoc, mass HYPE! Excellent stuff right there bro!
I'll be adding this to the second post OP!
edit: added a link from the original post as well (tips and tricks-section)~
I'll be adding this to the second post OP!
edit: added a link from the original post as well (tips and tricks-section)~
Dick Justice
Banned
Have there been any screenshots or footage from the PC version yet?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Not yet~
Dick Justice
Banned
4 days from release, that doesn't exactly inspire optimism as to the quality of the port.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Eh, Square Enix and Steam ports usually just gets released without prior release footage. Look at FFVIII, III and IV. (They did show VII however).
Square simply know that the game will sell regardless if they show it or not
killatopak
Gold Member
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I want to see everyone
Vanille
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Last Remnant got a similar treatment (maybe a bit more, since the screens of the store page seems to be from the PC version) and was an excellent port....
of course that was UE3 and XIII is Crystal Tools....
let's hope for the best.
I dont know what people are expecting. Its not a remake.
Expect at least the quality that you saw at the PS3 version (which is already pretty good) and you should be fine.
Tizoc
Member
I'm hoping for 60 FPS @3@
FF13 had no screen tearing on the PS3 so I believe that'll be apparent here too.
Which reminds me...I'm gonna get a new 2 TB HDD soon, and don't want to take much space on my lappy's HDDs, hope it'll run fine from a USB 3.0 external HDD with no issues >_>;
killatopak
Gold Member
Are mods possible?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
There we go! Sorry for the delay, but you're in the OP now as well :3!Yoshi, you broke my heart
/cry
notworksafe
Member
I can't seem to get any GMG codes to work with this. Guess I'll wait for a sale.
Guess I'll wait for a sale.Ganon Dragmire
Member
Original Japanese site is back up.
http://web.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/FF13_Portal/ff13/
put it on full-screen and enjoy
http://web.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/FF13_Portal/ff13/
put it on full-screen and enjoy
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Dunno if the music is random but I got Yaschas Massif - which just happened to be my favorite song in the game! Soooooooooo good!
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Dunno if the music is random but I got Yaschas Massif - which just happened to be my favorite song in the game! Soooooooooo good!
yeah it's random. I tried to go to the music series page but that seems down. (just takes me to the portal page)
Tizoc
Member
I just remembered another thing:
Summons in this game are for the most point, worthless and I've barely used them at all from their acquisition, and Gran Pulse onwards, aside from certain battles but even THOSE escape me atm :V
For that matter, using summons also revives your other party members, so that's one plus to them.
Summons in this game are for the most point, worthless and I've barely used them at all from their acquisition, and Gran Pulse onwards, aside from certain battles but even THOSE escape me atm :V
For that matter, using summons also revives your other party members, so that's one plus to them.
killatopak
Gold Member
Love the song.
Looking at the prices on the pics back in 2010, I'm very surprised that they sold the PS3 version for twice the price on the Xbox 360.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yup, Tizoc! Summons have always had gimmicky uses in recent Final Fantasy-games :lol
FFX = Survive insta-death actions
FFXIII = Revive party members + turtle bashing
FFX = Survive insta-death actions
FFXIII = Revive party members + turtle bashing
you can use summons to knock tortoise butt to the ground.
I honestly think they are pretty fun to use ,but I don't think they are vital obviously.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Ganon Dragmire
Member
not really, the sites were down(for some reason) around the time the pc versions were announced. the us one is still down, but the Japanese sites are waaaaaaay better
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Tizoc
Member
killatopak
Gold Member
lol!
Man, I'm gonna waste so much time just staring into the horizon while listening to the music and watching chocobos running around. Not to mention staring at... ehem.
Can't wait!
you know that this is possible actually D:
If it was all a ruse to "test the waters" lol
yeah because no media yet 4 days before release is encouraging right?
threelights
Member
So I'm guessing the people you play as are extremely OP (in terms of story), because from what I know from Type-0, l'Cies are superpowered badasses, and if Vanille is a l'Cie and you play as Vanille, that should mean everyone is super strong... right?
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Also Playstation Home. Hahaha
You could buy XIII related items for it.(among other things)
Yes they are.
Arguably they are even stronger and more dangerous than Fal'cie(Their "masters") but they are stuck with a ticking time bomb if they fail or succeed their in their given task.
If they fail they become c'ieth, if they succeed they become crystals and gain eternal life(or that's what the game says at first)