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Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood |OT| Y'all Need to Calm Down
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Omega never really struck me as hard so much as busy. Run here, run there, run the other place! The healer stuff is pretty straightforward. It's "harder" in that we can actively do stuff during Final Battle that involves pushing buttons instead of just doing mechanics, but eh.
Managed to check off two of my remaining O4S bucket list items: Exdeath kill pre-second-Black-Hole, which then rolled into killing Neo without resetting between Exdeath and Neo (which is interesting because everybody's big CDs are all misaligned; the Double Attacks that got invuln'd needed to be moved, etc.) Also slowly inching my Neo kills out of shameville. Very slowly.
Things we still cannot figure out how to do: Kill Neo without multiple people dying to dumb.
Managed to check off two of my remaining O4S bucket list items: Exdeath kill pre-second-Black-Hole, which then rolled into killing Neo without resetting between Exdeath and Neo (which is interesting because everybody's big CDs are all misaligned; the Double Attacks that got invuln'd needed to be moved, etc.) Also slowly inching my Neo kills out of shameville. Very slowly.
Things we still cannot figure out how to do: Kill Neo without multiple people dying to dumb.
DontTouchMe
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ken-sama nerf when
Fat Moogle Mount Giveaway!
Okay so I have two of these mounts to give away. Instead of just randomly doing it, I figured we could have a kind of screenshot contest. To enter, just quote this and post your screenshot in the thread. The theme is just well... anything related to Stormblood! Can be a cool moment or just your character posed a certain way. You get the idea. If you don't have Stormblood, whatever else will work too, haha.
I'll pick one winner that I like the most and the other mount will be randomly given to someone that enters.If no one enters I'll just post both codes here buuut I'd rather not have lurkers take them
Deadline is in a week so there's time!
Ninki Gauge is from SB
Question about Savage... my partner and I really enjoy the raid/trial content in XIV. This weekend we finished up our farms for both Susano and Lakshmi EX, and I would classify both those fights as relatively straightforward but with an average of 1 mistake each on our parts every 2 fights or so (something like getting hit by the dice countdown or panicking with dice + knockback marker on Susano). Back in early HW days we were doing Coil with a level 50 group who didn't own the xpac, and we all got stuck on Twintania (at that point we had 4-5 regulars and 3-4 PUGs).
Based on that level of competency, is Savage something we should look into? In HW we avoided it out of fear, but Stormblood has seemed easier/smoother. We don't currently have a static but have been keeping an eye out. MNK/AST mains, if it matters.
Based on that level of competency, is Savage something we should look into? In HW we avoided it out of fear, but Stormblood has seemed easier/smoother. We don't currently have a static but have been keeping an eye out. MNK/AST mains, if it matters.
Zomba13
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Fat Moogle Mount Giveaway!
Okay so I have two of these mounts to give away. Instead of just randomly doing it, I figured we could have a kind of screenshot contest. To enter, just quote this and post your screenshot in the thread. The theme is just well... anything related to Stormblood! Can be a cool moment or just your character posed a certain way. You get the idea. If you don't have Stormblood, whatever else will work too, haha.
I'll pick one winner that I like the most and the other mount will be randomly given to someone that enters.If no one enters I'll just post both codes here buuut I'd rather not have lurkers take them
Deadline is in a week so there's time!
Took advantage of a fall I had climbing the Kugane tower.
You should have relatively little trouble with O1S, provided you are willing to spend some time wiping while learning. It's a fairly straightforward fight and easier IMO than Susano. There are still some basics to learn, and the tank damage is a step up from a healing PoV, but it's still an extremely PUG-friendly fight.
2 is a step up from 1, but still pretty managable. The penalties for failure are a little harsher, the mechanics are slightly more involved, and it's easier for one person to wipe the whole group, but it's still not too bad.
3 and 4 step it up from there; both can be done in PUG groups but will take longer to learn and be a little more demanding when it comes to precise execution of job stuff while juggling mechanics.
Definitely try them out; clears in PF should be managable and if you can do Susano you should be fine to start Savage. AST in a pug situation will likely mean needing to understand how both shield healing and Regen healing work in the fights, since you may get paired with another healer of either type, but it's not too bad. Worst case, getting your feet wet in PUG 1 and 2 will give you a leg up if you end up trying out for a static.
There's nothing in O1S as complicated/tricky to execute as Dice+Knockback+Stack, IMO. The dodging is a scripted, set pattern and there's not really any having to watch and see if you're 'picked' for a mechanic since everyone gets all the mechanics (I guess the stack marker goes on a random healer but since everyone always stacks together that doesn't really count. Having the marker or not changes nothing.) Charybdis into Roars seems less frequent than Ukehi, and is easier to heal through. The only part that stands out causing PUGs issues is one specific Clamp tending to punt new MTs off the arena, but if somebody shows you the trick to dodging it even that becomes a non-issue. It specifically does not have the Susano thing of one person screwing up and whacking the rest of the party.
I seriously think anybody comfortable with the EX Primals who doesn't mind a lockout of wiping should try the first couple of Savage floors out.
Stone Ocean
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v1s is basically the same as the normal fight but with higher numbers and no railings
Trojita
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Being out of the game for end game stuff for awhile I was really apprehensive to do the Primal Ex's since the video explanations made it look difficult. Queue my surprise when after my 2nd clear I mastered both fights and stood here flabbergasted at how people can fuck up the fights as bad as they do. Perhaps the one mechanic I was still wary of, but never fucked up, with push back and cloud storm angles. Being a melee it was hard to gauge whether I needed to move, but I just make sure to check real quick if I'm selected.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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I cleared it in a PUG too. It was lots of hours of wiping but now it's just so easy to beat the dps check.
Should I be melding my gear with materia for O1S? One thing I've liked so far of this expansion is I've had to farm very little, got almost full 320 gear and a few 330 pieces just from doing shit I think is fun. The side effect is I have very little money for materia...
*edit* I suppose I should just test if I pass Earth Sea Sky...
*edit* I suppose I should just test if I pass Earth Sea Sky...
The problem most of the parties I was in was not being able keep themselves alive and missing at the end with like 1%-8%. I'm also fully melded on my blue gear and double melded on my green, so I hope I should be keeping up decently with people who did do v1s and v2s while I was gone for a couple of weeks (also I accidentally bought tank earrings this week, so now I'm even further behind XD).
Susano' big stand out was mostly that other people derping could severely hurt the run, and generally after the first misplaced mechanic people started freaking out. 2 has a couple mechanics that kind of work like that--what you have to do is simple, but somebody else doing their bit wrong can murder you--but in 1 the worst case scenario is people stacking AOEs which is survivable with decent gear, almost always just melee greed, and doesn't give anyone vulnerability so NBD.
This is a weird area. In theory, yes, you absolutely should because unmelded gear is just throwing damage away. VIs being 40 secondary stats is pretty significant and can make a difference.
That said, nothing in 1 or 2 is really going to require being super geared or melded (we did 1 with 7 people week 2 of the tier, and still had a while before enrage, it's pretty forgiving.) 320 gear is mostly just there to be replaced and not worth spending significant money on. 330 gear may last you longer, but will still be superceded by 340 in the end. You probably don't need it to clear, but being totally unmelded may cause people to not take you seriously/remove you from groups if things are going poorly.
Vs should be dirt cheap now; I'd suggest at least filling all your open slots with V materia. Save VIs for 340 gear you get, as that gear will last you another 4+ months and VIs drop from stuff like EXDR so you may build up a stash over time. Vs aren't as good (12 points instead of 40), but are better than nothing and a fine fit for temporary gear. The main story chucked a crazy amount of materia at you while leveling, so that may work out.
It's not mandatory, but no melds just kind of looks bad given how freeflowing materia is now. Especially if you start looking for a static; not melding your gear is kind of like being undergeared. Just kind of looks unprepared.
https://clips.twitch.tv/VictoriousThirstyMageCclamChamp
that rng >.>
about the primal ex talks. Lakshmi and susano ex is a cake walk compare to bismark and ravana ex. (Mainly comparing the difficulty of a exp launch primal ex fight. Ie 3.0 vs 4.0 not 3.x vs 4.x afterward)
O4S prog is going well. We're starting to make it past GC Delta, and I think we were close to seeing Omega for the first time when we ran out of time. I just feel bad for our healers because we're trying our best to handle stuff in a way that suits them, but they are definitely handling the bulk of the work in this fight. Our WHM was away last night and we filled in with a PF WHM who turned out to be very good. He pulled aggro like a motherfucker with Cure 3, but this fight hurts so much I'm not even sure if it counts as overhealing.
Hoping to get more progress tonight. It's very much a set Simon Says type of fight that seems to have very little variation once you get used to each batch of mechanics it throws at you.
And yes, refining your rotation is more important.
Hoping to get more progress tonight. It's very much a set Simon Says type of fight that seems to have very little variation once you get used to each batch of mechanics it throws at you.
You should be fine without materia for O1S. It's easier and more straightforward than EX primals. It's just kind of long and easy to space out in because the fight drags for a long time. Basically, try it out first and then adjust your gear as necessary if you hit a wall. But O1S and O2S are easy enough that you shouldn't need to fine-tune your gear much at this point.
And yes, refining your rotation is more important.
PunishedOkabe
Member
Holy crap, just noticed all the armour sets from the level 69 dungeon are all Tactics Ogre gear. God I love this game
EDIT:
Oh lord have mercy
EDIT:
Oh lord have mercy
Battle Litany
Banned
Keep in mind that Neo doesn't auto-attack, so its okay if the WHM pulls threat, just as long as the MT gets it back in time for the next aero 3 or double attack.
Also if you have a PLD you can always cover the healer as well. This is particularly useful during the aero 3 + earthshakers right after almagest.
Have you guys started doing Cover strats at all? We managed to deal with some of the aggro issues during prog by having me handle most of the Almagest healing (nAST's passive aggro reduction + the bulk of Aspected Helios being shields + Earthly Star being a Cure 3-sized heal that doesn't generate aggro at all means I could healbomb without registering as a blip), and then timing the WHM's Lucid usage. End result is 6-ish Cure 3s used in the fight, usually around Grand Cross stacks. We also tend to finish with a pretty close healing split most of the time.
But I know Cure 3 bombing + Cover is a pretty popular way of handling the aggro chokepoints, and something our PLD has been pushing for since it functions as a free bonus cooldown for him and let's them somehow aggro combo even less (you can use one Cover to hit an Aero 3 and Earthshaker, although the WHM needs to leave the stack as the AOE still goes through them with Cover.) If the WHM is healing the bulk of the Almagests it's way less stressful to just let them stay in first or second and Cover than try to voke-shirk sometimes.
Pretty much; there's one Almagest in the back half that exists to break pattern and see how you handle not having all your mitigation back from the last one, but for the most part it's an endurance test for execution above all.
To be more specific, the level 69 dungeon is all Ogre Battle gear. The two level 60 dungeons available at Heavensward launch (Neverreap and Fractal Continuum) drop Tactics Ogre gear.Holy crap, just noticed all the armour sets from the level 69 dungeon are all Tactics Ogre gear. God I love this game
EDIT:
Oh lord have mercy
And it's probably safe to say that the 24 man raid being added soon will drop FFT inspired gear.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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We haven't discussed Cover yet, but we'll look into that. We do run WHM + AST so we could try that.
Our DPS fill-in last night (who has cleared) also suggested that both tanks drop Shirk and pick up the AoE provoke skill to make it easier to voke for aggro, so I think we could try that too.
Our DPS fill-in last night (who has cleared) also suggested that both tanks drop Shirk and pick up the AoE provoke skill to make it easier to voke for aggro, so I think we could try that too.
PunishedOkabe
Member
Damn, looking up the gear and it's amazing. Glad to see Ogre Battle get some love
Battle Litany
Banned
is that the show or the telltale game?
Stone Ocean
Member
The more I play v4, the more I regret playing melee
FUCK
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FUCK
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Athreous
Member
Can`t wait for the Ivalice update... I wonder what kind of content we`ll see...
Btw, if anyone needs a PC Collector`s edition Stormblood key, check the buy/sell topic, I put my US mogstation key for sale there!
Posted it here because it might be a good deal for people looking for it, delete this please if it`s not allowed, mods.
Btw, if anyone needs a PC Collector`s edition Stormblood key, check the buy/sell topic, I put my US mogstation key for sale there!
Posted it here because it might be a good deal for people looking for it, delete this please if it`s not allowed, mods.
hikarutilmitt
Member
No no no. Meliadoul. I want it all.
Battle Litany
Banned
Would rather have a SOVIET HAMMER drg guide tbh
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I wouldn't mind Ramza's Dark Knight armor set for my Dark Knight and while they're at it they can use this opportunity to add Balthier's outfit to the game since he was present in War of the Lions.
RPGCrazied
Member
I hate MMO's sometimes. During the first storyline dungeon in stormblood I die at the 2nd boss.Then I was berated how I hit like a wet noodle.
Last I checked this wasn't a dps race. I'm in here because I have to be in order to move the story forward. :/
Last I checked this wasn't a dps race. I'm in here because I have to be in order to move the story forward. :/
Fat Moogle Mount Giveaway!
Okay so I have two of these mounts to give away. Instead of just randomly doing it, I figured we could have a kind of screenshot contest. To enter, just quote this and post your screenshot in the thread. The theme is just well... anything related to Stormblood! Can be a cool moment or just your character posed a certain way. You get the idea. If you don't have Stormblood, whatever else will work too, haha.
I'll pick one winner that I like the most and the other mount will be randomly given to someone that enters.If no one enters I'll just post both codes here buuut I'd rather not have lurkers take them
Deadline is in a week so there's time!
this is my entry for the give away :
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Who else has taken a break till 4.1 and what are you playing?
I'm switching between Guild Wars 2, Warframe, Overwatch and League of Legends at the moment.
I'm switching between Guild Wars 2, Warframe, Overwatch and League of Legends at the moment.
Stone Ocean
Member
Bless that Momo guide. Did almost 300 more DPS in v1 with the uptime tips.
Now if only my tanks would stop eating clamps so I can get a fast kill.
Now if only my tanks would stop eating clamps so I can get a fast kill.
fyi what you're doing is one of the most common reasons why statics break up, just be careful
Ehh, we know each other IRL anyways, the only reason I even started playing the game was because they invited me anyways, plus our glorious leader already told me not clear this week without them. In the end, the only reason we decided to try and clear v3s again on Monday was because the two people who couldn't be there said it was okay.
My break starts on Saturday. Likely won't resub til 4.2 at the earliest. Don't know if I'll ever return to raiding seriously.
In the meantime, just gonna knock out some games in my backlog and do as much stress-free stuff as possible, continue writing/working on novels, and get back to discussions with a friend about a potential site/channel/podcast. Awaiting the onslaught of games coming up and it'll be nice to focus on them without devoting 9-12 hours a week to raiding.
Shanaynay
Member
Not 100% on break, i usually tend to log in to run expert roulette though most of the time i don't feel like it. If i play for more than 30 mins it's because it's raid night.
I'll wait 4.1 to play more but knowing how patches are i'll be back to good ol' tome capping within 2 or 3 days and will probably take a break again beside for 24-man weekly loot/EX.