Yup. This game NEEDS a datalog. I loved reading about locations and lore in XIII's, because you could get little tidbits that weren't important to the story but were still really fun and interesting to read about, and made it feel more like a real, living world. XV's lore, as far as I can tell, consists of kings and oracles and summons, the end. I'm sure there's more, but the game refuses to tell me ;A;
Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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Yup. This game NEEDS a datalog. I loved reading about locations and lore in XIII's, because you could get little tidbits that weren't important to the story but were still really fun and interesting to read about, and made it feel more like a real, living world. XV's lore, as far as I can tell, consists of kings and oracles and summons, the end. I'm sure there's more, but the game refuses to tell me ;A;
I feel like I missed a lot of the soundtrack because I was overleveled going in to the last few chapters. I just looked up the Ifrit theme and apparently there's 4 phases? I can't remember anything beyond the one where he sits and the one where he fights.
Might have to replay the game when NG+ hits.
Might have to replay the game when NG+ hits.
AkirraKrylon
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The music changes in between the sitting/fighting, and again during the fighting so there are quite a few musical changes you might not notice if you are focusing on the battle.
There's technically three phases - a throwaway fight where he's sitting or might get up, a cutscene with Bahamut, then the fight itself which is >50% and <50% phases, followed by Shiva dealing the finishing blow.
edit: Maybe it's also testament to how smooth the inner workings of the music system are if it's not nearly as grab-you-by-the-head noticeable ;p
Yeah, I noticed the first shift. Can't remember this part (does this play during the Shiva summon?) at all, though. I didn't even realize you had to summon Shiva to end the battle.
Actually, I'm just gonna go replay the fight.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I just beat the game
Please tell me I understood it all wrong
Everyone dying for the world to become a better place and that the last scene was a complete dream (Luna and Noctis)
Please tell me I understood it all wrong
Everyone dying for the world to become a better place and that the last scene was a complete dream (Luna and Noctis)
NoctisVsStar
Member
Nailed it.
I didn't find any of those stories interesting so if meant nothing to me and I didnt' find XII's battle system fun like XII or XV either. XII had the best hunts so far just mostly because they felt the most rewarding and then there were occasional story bits in them that actually mattered like
running into Ba'Gamnan again during one of them.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
It's the afterlife. Where the kings go. Luna is there cuz Oracle. That's my interpretation.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Some people think the bros are dead, but I think their presence in the last scene was a power of friendship moment. Otherwise, Noct's line of "leaving the world to them" (paraphrased) loses value, as does the campfire scene, which is made doubly sad if his bros continue to live without him.
Last scene was the afterlife, I think. NO BEARDS IN HEAVEN!
Gai Murakumo
Member
LOL! Which is weird since God in a bunch of interpretations has a beard.
wait wait wait
noctis gets stabbed by regis and dies in the real world and goes to the afterlife
then he unleashes KOTR in the afterlife which banishes Adryn the accursed for good, then discombobulates in the afterlife due to containing and expending power like that
so he died in the afterlife as well
so the marriage is after-afterlife?
noctis gets stabbed by regis and dies in the real world and goes to the afterlife
then he unleashes KOTR in the afterlife which banishes Adryn the accursed for good, then discombobulates in the afterlife due to containing and expending power like that
so he died in the afterlife as well
so the marriage is after-afterlife?
Deckard Chapel
Banned
It was Heaven. Noctis gave his life to save the world. He then reunites with Luna in Heaven and his friends help bring the World Of Ruin back to normal.
Iris and the rest of the bros Finish off the remaining Daemons and start rebuilding the destruction.
That's my take on it anyway
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
wait wait wait
noctis gets stabbed by regis and dies in the real world and goes to the afterlife
then he unleashes KOTR in the afterlife which banishes Adryn the accursed for good, then discombobulates in the afterlife due to containing and expending power like that
so he died in the afterlife as well
so the marriage is after-afterlife?
Plot twist: They survived. Just kidding
Deckard Chapel
Banned
wait wait wait
noctis gets stabbed by regis and dies in the real world and goes to the afterlife
then he unleashes KOTR in the afterlife which banishes Adryn the accursed for good, then discombobulates in the afterlife due to containing and expending power like that
so he died in the afterlife as well
so the marriage is after-afterlife?
Ardyn says "I'll wait for you in the afterlife" like he knew Noctis would have to make a death-deal with the Kings of old to save the world.
He destroys Ardyn "the immortal" once and for all in Purgatory before going to Heaven.
The Emperor
Member
Bhunivelze didn't in LR:FFXIII
wait wait wait
noctis gets stabbed by regis and dies in the real world and goes to the afterlife
then he unleashes KOTR in the afterlife which banishes Adryn the accursed for good, then discombobulates in the afterlife due to containing and expending power like that
so he died in the afterlife as well
so the marriage is after-afterlife?
He looked like he was in the Crystal to kill Ardyn. Then he really died and went to heaven.
Also, don't think about it.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Do we know why Solheim was scrapped? We had an incredibly ambitious world map... hell even Altissia was said to be huge and of considerable scale. It is really disappointing the only area you're really gonna stay in is Duscae. Ironically, they also showed Duscae constantly in trailers. That was all they had for open world design and copy pasted gas stations.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
wait wait wait
noctis gets stabbed by regis and dies in the real world and goes to the afterlife
then he unleashes KOTR in the afterlife which banishes Adryn the accursed for good, then discombobulates in the afterlife due to containing and expending power like that
so he died in the afterlife as well
so the marriage is after-afterlife?
He doesn't die until he uses the ring's power to actually kill Ardyn. He summons the kings of lucis to juice up his/the ring's power. When it's complete it opens a portal to where Ardyn is where Noctis then throws his sword down into it to warp.
There he uses the power of the kings to kill Ardyn then actually dies. Just like Nyx you can see the effect spreading throughout his body as he uses the power. It's the same place he was in when he was inside the crystal.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
I asked this before, but did anyone else notice that when you camp at the area right before the Malboro fight, that Prompto was holding a large katana and it looked like he was going to give it to Noctis - but he doesn't - what's going on there?
APZonerunner
Member
IIRC, He's holding Ignis' stick, which he gets after he's blinded and uses to feel his way around the world as real blind people do. He just seems awkward - Ignis has sat down, he has the stick, he doesn't quite know what to do with it.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Yes, that's what I mean.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
The final scene is so hard to justify in any way. It looks even more ridiculous since it follows the sun rising on the world of ruin making it look like they are somehow alive. Thats obviously not the case, but I cant find any reason for that scene to exist.wait wait wait
noctis gets stabbed by regis and dies in the real world and goes to the afterlife
then he unleashes KOTR in the afterlife which banishes Adryn the accursed for good, then discombobulates in the afterlife due to containing and expending power like that
so he died in the afterlife as well
so the marriage is after-afterlife?
I also hate where they placed the campfire scene. Why did they not place it during the actual final camping. This game flashes back so much (especially with Luna) instead of showing things as they happen, and delaying the campfire scene delays the punch of everything. The final scene before walking away from the bros, and the death on the throne wouldve been so much better if the camp scene already was shown.
The ending still would feel like Tabata style "gotta kill em all" regardless
You didn't read the notes scattered about in Chapter 13?
Whoaaaaaa, hold on there; you've been around long enough to know when I drop the caps I'm generally not being super serious and looking to elicit a sensible chuckle or two.
I thought the ending worked fine. Sunrise after 10 years of darkness was kinda powerful (even if green vegetation doesn't quite make sense from a real-life perspective), and who can say no to using the FF main theme as wedding music?
Prompto DLC, already announced in the Season Pass.
FFVII ending left it up for interpreation. AC was made to milk the franchise but it also continues the story so we know what happened afterwards. Always hated the FFVII ending even after I first played it so I'm glad AC exists even if it's just fanfic.
Just GIVE me more cutscenes with this guy.
Now that I think about it, I don't think I really like any of the FF endings.
But it's about da journey!
I love FF fans.
Yea, I get that but I hated it especially after the greatness of FFVI's ending. It'll always be one of the worst endings in the series for me.