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RunWhiteBoyRun

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I'm liking FF4 except after an hour or so of browsing, the page up and down buttons stop working. Up and down arrow keys work, but not the page button. And it is not F7 Caret browsing. It's driving me nuts, almost ready to uninstall.
 
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pestul

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Okay, I still find FF4 to be great even with hardware acceleration disabled, so I guess they did a lot to improve the coding even over the betas. Hopefully AMD will be able to patch that bug pretty soon in their drivers so I can get back to accelerated goodness.

Opera 11 is still my browser of choice on a 1GB Atom netbook though. Much smoother than all the alternatives.
 
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Yami

Member
Still hogs memory on my Macbook like a leech though. Had it up yesterday, sucking nearly 2GB of memory, with only about 10 tabs open. :/
 
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hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
Road said:
That's not really an alpha. That's the nightly build, which is built every night (derp) since forever; the version numbering has never been that important here. It is the equivalent of Chrome's Canary in terms of development.
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I was simply pointing out the new number, whether or not it has significance.
 
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scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
Yami said:
Still hogs memory on my Macbook like a leech though. Had it up yesterday, sucking nearly 2GB of memory, with only about 10 tabs open. :/
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You might have a shitty profile with extensions that leak memory. Firefox has been shown to be quite judicious with its memory usage since 3.x when compared to Chrome and Safari.
 
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SolidusDave

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Installed in on my Netbook with XP. I like it, it's also a tiny bit faster.
While I was at it I took the time to further customize the toolbars so that I have more space (good for my Netbook's low vertical resolution when I'm not using additional monitors).

aPXCJ.jpg


Though I didn't like the new addon bar at all, glad there's an addon to revert that.
 
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Mechanical Snowman

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I think this is the first Firefox I've used that doesn't need add-ons to make the UI nicer and more practical - http://i.imgur.com/0tTZJ.jpg

And opening tabs and switching between them is lightning fast now, no load times.

Edit:

wtu60w.jpg


Is that arrow a new addition to GAF / Firefox or is it just a weird coincidence that I've only just noticed it after downloading Firefox 4?
 
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Hot Coldman

Banned
WTF happened to the awesome bar? It used to be that I could type anything into the address bar and it would automatically go straight to an appropriate website/page of a website. I could type into obscure Pokemon and it'd jump straight to their page of Bulbapedia. Now it just googles it. Fuck that...
 
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Yami

Member
scorcho said:
You might have a shitty profile with extensions that leak memory. Firefox has been shown to be quite judicious with its memory usage since 3.x when compared to Chrome and Safari.
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Only extension I use is AdBlock, but I haven't really looked into profiles. I'll backup my bookmarks and try it tomorrow.
 
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MrBig

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Green Scar said:
WTF happened to the awesome bar? It used to be that I could type anything into the address bar and it would automatically go straight to an appropriate website/page of a website. I could type into obscure Pokemon and it'd jump straight to their page of Bulbapedia. Now it just googles it. Fuck that...
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It googled it before, it just used "I'm Feeling Lucky" and used the first result instead of letting you choose the most appropriate one.
 
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Mr_Zombie

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Mechanical Snowman said:
Is that arrow a new addition to GAF / Firefox or is it just a weird coincidence that I've only just noticed it after downloading Firefox 4?
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New feature in FF4 - you can resize all textbox form fields.
 
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Hot Coldman

Banned
MrBig said:
It googled it before, it just used "I'm Feeling Lucky" and used the first result instead of letting you choose the most appropriate one.
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I prefer that. It felt awesome to type in, say, facebook and go straight there. If I want to Google something, well, that's what the Google bar is for isn't it? Bizarre decision there by Mozilla.
 
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Treefingers

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Green Scar said:
Not surprising for someone with an Adventure Time avatar, but you sir are awesome. Thanks!
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No problem dude. I'm equally as baffled by their decision.

Mechanical Snowman said:
wtu60w.jpg


Is that arrow a new addition to GAF / Firefox or is it just a weird coincidence that I've only just noticed it after downloading Firefox 4?
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It's new to Firefox 4. =)
But it's been in Chrome and Safari for ages :p
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
Yami said:
Still hogs memory on my Macbook like a leech though. Had it up yesterday, sucking nearly 2GB of memory, with only about 10 tabs open. :/
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Yeah, I've noticed it leaking memory on both Win7 and OSX, much more than 3.6 anyway.

Edit - The only new extension I've used is the status bar thing. I've been using Panorama/tab groups a lot - is there any related issues with that?
 
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AndyMoogle

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firehawk12 said:
Yeah, I've noticed it leaking memory on both Win7 and OSX, much more than 3.6 anyway.

Edit - The only new extension I've used is the status bar thing. I've been using Panorama/tab groups a lot - is there any related issues with that?
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I have 4 tab groups, with a total of 26 tabs, and Firefox uses 526MB or RAM right now. I also have 30 extensions.

Edit: At the same time Chrome eats up 670MB of RAM with only 13 tabs open.
 
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Yami

Member
Made a new profile, got 14 tabs open right now. Firefox is hovering at around 671MB memory and 30% CPU usage. Hmm.
 
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MrBig

Member
After having it open without closing for the last two days the commit size (the highest it would have been at any point) is only 200mb. Mostly visiting, gaf, news sites, wikipedia, and random websites in searches.
Since that is 4.8% of my total RAM I'm not worried about it.
 
longdi

longdi

Banned
I am having a major problem with FF4 gpu acceleration. It is turned off yet gpu-z shows my 6950 (cat11.4) spiking at full 3d clocks every now and then! This is a game breaking bug! Why is my gpu forced to run full speed (thus more fan noise) when i did not even enable hardware acceleration!!

FF3.6 and IE9 with hardware acceleration off, does not bother my gpu. IE9 does spike up the 3D clocks more but no where as often as FF4.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
AndyMoogle said:
I have 4 tab groups, with a total of 26 tabs, and Firefox uses 526MB or RAM right now. I also have 30 extensions.

Edit: At the same time Chrome eats up 670MB of RAM with only 13 tabs open.
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Yeah, I left my machine on over night with the exact same tabs and extensions I used in 3.6.15 and the memory went up to 900MB from 500MB.

The only other thing that I can think of are the neogaf greasemonkey scripts I installed, but I've been using them in 3.6.15 without problems as well. I might just go back and wait for the update.
 
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YYZ

Junior Member
How do I decrease the height of the text in the tabs (I have tab mix plus). Also can't figure out how to change the colour of the font on the menu options (file, edit, vew, history, etc...)


33 tabs, about a dozen extensions. 673MB. Everything seems to load a lot faster though.
 
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Darkatomz

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CrookedRain said:
myself said:
I forgot to post the fix that I made for the blurry issue.


Open up about:config and find gfx.direct2d.disabled. Set it to True. While you're at it, find gfx.use_text_smoothing_setting (10 or so lines under it) and set it to True as well.

These changes allow you to KEEP hardware acceleration on. From what I've read, this blurry font issue isn't a Mozilla problem, but a Microsoft one. I wouldn't run cleartype since it would de-calibrate how fonts look everywhere other than FF.
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You're making it run slower. Here's a quick little rundown on hardware acceleration in FF4:
http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/09/hardware-acceleration/
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Hmmm...

Threi said:
I originally did that, but just simply running the cleartype config worked better for me. It fixed firefox while everything else that used anti-aliasing was pretty much unaffected.
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I still don't want to do this to wreck the font rendering in things other than Firefox.



So is there another option to fixing this without using Windows cleartype, disabling hardware acceleration, or changing the command line I used?
 
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magicalsoundshower

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While I like the feel of FF4 so far, this feels like the slowest browser on this face of the earth on my netbook, pages even load slowly, like I'm on a 56k modem or something. Using the TYPO3 admin panel in particular is pure torture, it almost drove me up the walls. Guess I'm going back to using Opera on my netbook.
 
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CrookedRain

Member
Darkatomz said:
Hmmm...

I still don't want to do this to wreck the font rendering in things other than Firefox.



So is there another option to fixing this without using Windows cleartype, disabling hardware acceleration, or changing the command line I used?
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What's the downside to changing your ClearType settings so that ClearType fonts look as good as they possibly can on your display?
 
Schrade

Schrade

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CrookedRain said:
What's the downside to changing your ClearType settings so that ClearType fonts look as good as they possibly can on your display?
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Some people don't like to have Cleartype enabled for some reason. They prefer the bitmapped look.

Tuning ClearType if you have it enabled is just the right thing to do. It'll make it match what looks best on your display.
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Sweet mother of God, downloaded this today and my mind is fucking blown to bits.

I loved Firefox 2, absolutely HATED 3 (went to Chrome during that time) and came back for Firefox 4. Simply amazing, super quick, smooth and everything with it is flawless at the moment.
 
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CrookedRain

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Schrade said:
Some people don't like to have Cleartype enabled for some reason. They prefer the bitmapped look.

Tuning ClearType if you have it enabled is just the right thing to do. It'll make it match what looks best on your display.
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Yeah, I'm talking about when ClearType is already enabled. I believe it's enabled by default in Vista and 7.
 
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Mechanical Snowman

Member
Just noticed that right clicking on a url that hasn't been linked gives the option to open the link directly. No more copying and pasting into the url bar I guess =D
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Mechanical Snowman said:
Just noticed that right clicking on a url that hasn't been linked gives the option to open the link directly. No more copying and pasting into the url bar I guess =D
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Wow, this is insane.
 
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Korey

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Mechanical Snowman said:
Just noticed that right clicking on a url that hasn't been linked gives the option to open the link directly. No more copying and pasting into the url bar I guess =D
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Boo, you still have to highlight it first I guess?

Code: 
http://www.google.com
 
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nomoment

Member
OSX FF user here. I've pretty much resigned to the fact that Firefox will never be a low memory footprint browser. Tried to create new profile, RAM usage was exactly the same as my default profile. I thought they'd get this sorted out after the memory problems from FF3, but it seems to have only gotten worse.

I typically see Firefox occupying about 500 megs of RAM after an hour or two usage and about half a dozen tabs often. Insanity.
 
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Winterblink

Member
Its been a while since I've touched FF (Chrome user here), have they added some ability to better manage the uninstallation of add-ons? I always hated that other programs could dump something into your FF addons and you couldn't remove that browser tie-in for some of them without uninstalling the original program.
 
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MrBig

Member
Winterblink said:
Its been a while since I've touched FF (Chrome user here), have they added some ability to better manage the uninstallation of add-ons? I always hated that other programs could dump something into your FF addons and you couldn't remove that browser tie-in for some of them without uninstalling the original program.
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You have always been able to disable those addons...
 
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Mechanical Snowman

Member
Korey said:
Boo, you still have to highlight it first I guess?

Code: 
http://www.google.com
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Ah, yes indeed.

But triple click, right click and then left click is better than triple click, crtl+c, open new tab, ctrl+v, enter.

Though knowing add-ons, I bet that there's been something to turn any url into an active link for years.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
nomoment said:
OSX FF user here. I've pretty much resigned to the fact that Firefox will never be a low memory footprint browser. Tried to create new profile, RAM usage was exactly the same as my default profile. I thought they'd get this sorted out after the memory problems from FF3, but it seems to have only gotten worse.

I typically see Firefox occupying about 500 megs of RAM after an hour or two usage and about half a dozen tabs often. Insanity.
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After switching back to 3.6.16, it's using about 170 megs for me. There's definitely some giant overhead on 4 and some kind of massive memory leak on the OSX side.
 
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nomoment

Member
firehawk12 said:
After switching back to 3.6.16, it's using about 170 megs for me. There's definitely some giant overhead on 4 and some kind of massive memory leak on the OSX side.
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I'm very tempted to revert back, but knowing that this is probably one of those things that Mozilla is never going to address, having to upgrade to FF4 also is an inevitability.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
nomoment said:
I'm very tempted to revert back, but knowing that this is probably one of those things that Mozilla is never going to address, having to upgrade to FF4 also is an inevitability.
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I'm hoping it gets fixed. Having to restart my browser every half day or so just to free up memory is bad, especially when it takes my poor old Mac a few minutes to even register that I wanted it to shut down Firefox in the first place.

It certainly has a bigger footprint on my PC, but at least it doesn't leak... and on that I can't complain too much.
 
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AlmostMilk

Member
does anybody else have the problem where the webpage has to completely load up before it shows up or for videos, it has to completely load before it is able to play at all. i never had this problem til firefox 4
 
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bigcheese

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What is the purpose of switching the position of "Open Link in New tab" and "Open Link in New Window" other than pissing off people that have used FF for years? Grr...

Otherwise, I'm liking it.
 
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