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Sgt.Pepper

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I wish Firefox didn't need to restart everytime I install a new add-on, not having to restart made Chrome pretty bearable when it came to installing new extensions.
 
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AndyD

aka andydumi
Sgt.Pepper said:
I wish Firefox didn't need to restart everytime I install a new add-on, not having to restart made Chrome pretty bearable when it came to installing new extensions.
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In 4 it allows that. But addons have to support it. Old ones don't.
 
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Shurs

Member
Downloaded 4.0 an hour ago.

It doesn't seem to support "pinch to zoom" on my Macbook Pro's trackpad.

The previous version supported this functionality.
 
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Threi

notag
I ran the cleartype tuner, and it did indeed improve the font rendering. I suggest people do that instead of turning off any hardware acceleration.
 
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Darkatomz

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Threi said:
after installing FF4 on all my computers now it seems that the only one really affected by the poor font rendering is my main comp. Every other one is fine. You can kinda see the anti-aliasing on one of them (my laptop) but nowhere near the mess it is on my desktop. Pretty strange. I wonder if running the cleartype wizard in windows would fix it.
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I forgot to post the fix that I made for the blurry issue.


Open up about:config and find gfx.direct2d.disabled. Set it to True. While you're at it, find gfx.use_text_smoothing_setting (10 or so lines under it) and set it to True as well.

These changes allow you to KEEP hardware acceleration on. From what I've read, this blurry font issue isn't a Mozilla problem, but a Microsoft one. I wouldn't run cleartype since it would de-calibrate how fonts look everywhere other than FF.
 
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CrookedRain

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Darkatomz said:
I forgot to post the fix that I made for the blurry issue.


Open up about:config and find gfx.direct2d.disabled. Set it to True. While you're at it, find gfx.use_text_smoothing_setting (10 or so lines under it) and set it to True as well.

These changes allow you to KEEP hardware acceleration on. From what I've read, this blurry font issue isn't a Mozilla problem, but a Microsoft one. I wouldn't run cleartype since it would de-calibrate how fonts look everywhere other than FF.
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You're making it run slower. Here's a quick little rundown on hardware acceleration in FF4:
http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/09/hardware-acceleration/

Content acceleration speeds up rendering the actual page content, such as the text, images, CSS borders, etc. Content acceleration is also used to speed up the 2D HTML canvas. On Windows Vista/7, we use Direct2D for this and it has been activated in this new beta.
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Slayven

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roxya said:
I dunno what Panorama is but the FF button shows when you right-click a toolbar and choose to remove the menu bar.
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You are a scholar and a gentleman, that fixed it. I got the panorama/tab candy button by right clicking and adding it.
 
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MrBig

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Sgt.Pepper said:
I wish Firefox didn't need to restart everytime I install a new add-on, not having to restart made Chrome pretty bearable when it came to installing new extensions.
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They've added support for that, but it's up to the add-on developers to have developed restart-less addons. Until then enjoy that 2 second extra wait while you are already procrastinating by adding things to your browser.
 
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Threi

notag
Darkatomz said:
I forgot to post the fix that I made for the blurry issue.


Open up about:config and find gfx.direct2d.disabled. Set it to True. While you're at it, find gfx.use_text_smoothing_setting (10 or so lines under it) and set it to True as well.

These changes allow you to KEEP hardware acceleration on. From what I've read, this blurry font issue isn't a Mozilla problem, but a Microsoft one. I wouldn't run cleartype since it would de-calibrate how fonts look everywhere other than FF.
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I originally did that, but just simply running the cleartype config worked better for me. It fixed firefox while everything else that used anti-aliasing was pretty much unaffected.
 
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CrookedRain

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Sgt.Pepper said:
I wish Firefox didn't need to restart everytime I install a new add-on, not having to restart made Chrome pretty bearable when it came to installing new extensions.
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I don't install many extensions so I'm not too sure about this, but can't you just install all the extensions and then restart once instead of restarting after each one?
 
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AndyD

aka andydumi
CrookedRain said:
I don't install many extensions so I'm not too sure about this, but can't you just install all the extensions and then restart once instead of restarting after each one?
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Yep. You can install as many as you want before restart.
 
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DaBargainHunta

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Anyone else having this issue?

If you click on a link, the URL doesn't appear in the address bar.

It's an annoying issue. If anyone knows of a fix, it'd be much appreciated.
 
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hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
I don't know if they will actually make the 16-week cycle, but they've released a new alpha.

DyBwt.png
 
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CrookedRain

Member
hateradio said:
I don't know if they will actually make the 16-week cycle, but they've released a new alpha.

DyBwt.png
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So glad that FF4 finally got released so that they could start landing a bunch of patches again. Scrolling seems a lot better with the latest nightly.
 
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maeh2k

Member
CrookedRain said:
I'll never understand why people keep a browser open for 4 days straight without ever closing it...
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that's because closing and reopening a browser is a pain in the ass.

I currently have probably 100+ tabs open spread out over 5 windows. When I close the browser and restart it, all those pages have to be reloaded :)
 
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SnakeXs

about the same metal capacity as a cucumber
CrookedRain said:
I'll never understand why people keep a browser open for 4 days straight without ever closing it...
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Why should anyone ever have to worry about completely closing a browser? Even in Windows world where just closing the last tab quits the program, a user shouldn't ever feel obliged to do such a thing.
 
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Adam Scott Aukerman

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maeh2k said:
that's because closing and reopening a browser is a pain in the ass.

I currently have probably 100+ tabs open spread out over 5 windows. When I close the browser and restart it, all those pages have to be reloaded :)
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Why on Earth would you need, or even want, to do that?
 
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maeh2k

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rogue_pigeon said:
Why on Earth would you need, or even want, to do that?
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why would I not want that? It can be really practical.

I have one browser window dedicated to college websites. So, e.g., one tab for every class I've taken this semester, one tab for every course I consider taking next semester, ...
Makes around 30 tabs.

So I have all the college stuff in one place where I can easily find it. I don't have to organize or manage bookmarks for all those tabs. They are just there whenever I need them. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to bookmark every website of a course I might be interested in.


Then I'm trying to learn some Android programming. For that I also have a dedicated window with lots of tabs. For example for various tutorials and online-documentation. All that is easily accessible and just as I left it, whenever I need it.


Leaving everything open is just the most convenient way to do it. There isn't much of a downside to that.
 
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Adam Scott Aukerman

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maeh2k said:
why would I not want that? It can be really practical.

I have one browser window dedicated to college websites. So, e.g., one tab for every class I've taken this semester, one tab for every course I consider taking next semester, ...
Makes around 30 tabs.

So I have all the college stuff in one place where I can easily find it. I don't have to organize or manage bookmarks for all those tabs. They are just there whenever I need them. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to bookmark every website of a course I might be interested in.


Then I'm trying to learn some Android programming. For that I also have a dedicated window with lots of tabs. For example for various tutorials and online-documentation. All that is easily accessible and just as I left it, whenever I need it.


Leaving everything open is just the most convenient way to do it. There isn't much of a downside to that.
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...you're just plain weird.
 
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Doopliss

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maeh2k said:
why would I not want that? It can be really practical.

I have one browser window dedicated to college websites. So, e.g., one tab for every class I've taken this semester, one tab for every course I consider taking next semester, ...
Makes around 30 tabs.

So I have all the college stuff in one place where I can easily find it. I don't have to organize or manage bookmarks for all those tabs. They are just there whenever I need them. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to bookmark every website of a course I might be interested in.


Then I'm trying to learn some Android programming. For that I also have a dedicated window with lots of tabs. For example for various tutorials and online-documentation. All that is easily accessible and just as I left it, whenever I need it.


Leaving everything open is just the most convenient way to do it. There isn't much of a downside to that.
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Firefox Panorama was made for you... You can just have one window and switch between your tab groups, and it can save it all when you close the browser.
 
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maeh2k

Member
Doopliss said:
Firefox Panorama was made for you... You can just have one window and switch between your tab groups, and it can save it all when you close the browser.
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But I like using more windows :) Works great in OS X using expose and spaces.

Actually, my main browser is Opera. It has tab groups and it does save sessions.
 
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trineo_feo

Member
maeh2k said:
why would I not want that? It can be really practical.

I have one browser window dedicated to college websites. So, e.g., one tab for every class I've taken this semester, one tab for every course I consider taking next semester, ...
Makes around 30 tabs.

So I have all the college stuff in one place where I can easily find it. I don't have to organize or manage bookmarks for all those tabs. They are just there whenever I need them. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to bookmark every website of a course I might be interested in.


Then I'm trying to learn some Android programming. For that I also have a dedicated window with lots of tabs. For example for various tutorials and online-documentation. All that is easily accessible and just as I left it, whenever I need it.


Leaving everything open is just the most convenient way to do it. There isn't much of a downside to that.
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I don't think that's how you have to use a web browser...
 
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Ultimatum

Banned
maeh2k said:
why would I not want that? It can be really practical.

I have one browser window dedicated to college websites. So, e.g., one tab for every class I've taken this semester, one tab for every course I consider taking next semester, ...
Makes around 30 tabs.

So I have all the college stuff in one place where I can easily find it. I don't have to organize or manage bookmarks for all those tabs. They are just there whenever I need them. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to bookmark every website of a course I might be interested in.


Then I'm trying to learn some Android programming. For that I also have a dedicated window with lots of tabs. For example for various tutorials and online-documentation. All that is easily accessible and just as I left it, whenever I need it.


Leaving everything open is just the most convenient way to do it. There isn't much of a downside to that.
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well at least someone here isn't stuck in the old days of web browsing, that's exactly how I use my browser, and it's so much more efficient.
 
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carlosp

Banned
maeh2k said:
why would I not want that? It can be really practical.

I have one browser window dedicated to college websites. So, e.g., one tab for every class I've taken this semester, one tab for every course I consider taking next semester, ...
Makes around 30 tabs.

So I have all the college stuff in one place where I can easily find it. I don't have to organize or manage bookmarks for all those tabs. They are just there whenever I need them. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to bookmark every website of a course I might be interested in.


Then I'm trying to learn some Android programming. For that I also have a dedicated window with lots of tabs. For example for various tutorials and online-documentation. All that is easily accessible and just as I left it, whenever I need it.


Leaving everything open is just the most convenient way to do it. There isn't much of a downside to that.
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yeah me to:

Uni Group
Forums Group
MISC Group
Porn Group

;)
 
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pestul

Member
Bummer, I had to disable hardware acceleration due to a bug in AMDs graphics drivers (since 11.1). GPU usage sticks at 99% when HTML5 or some random pages that use the D2D are engaged.
 
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ScOULaris

Member
maeh2k said:
that's because closing and reopening a browser is a pain in the ass.

I currently have probably 100+ tabs open spread out over 5 windows. When I close the browser and restart it, all those pages have to be reloaded :)
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That is patently ridiculous. I can't imagine any reason whatsoever why someone would need that many tabs open. Ever.
 
UltimaKilo

UltimaKilo

Gold Member
How does in compete against Safari? Nothing has yet surpassed Safari, at least for me and yet I still really like Firefox 3.8.
 
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Road

Member
hateradio said:
I don't know if they will actually make the 16-week cycle, but they've released a new alpha.

DyBwt.png
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That's not really an alpha. That's the nightly build, which is built every night (derp) since forever; the version numbering has never been that important here. It is the equivalent of Chrome's Canary in terms of development.
 
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maeh2k

Member
UltimaKilo said:
How does in compete against Safari? Nothing has yet surpassed Safari, at least for me and yet I still really like Firefox 3.8.
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In my opinion, everything has surpassed Safari :)

I prefer Opera / IE 9 / FF 4 / Chrome to Safari. Handling tabs and gifs has always seemed very slow in Safari.

Why is Safari your first choice?
 
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raebodep

Member
maeh2k said:
why would I not want that? It can be really practical.

I have one browser window dedicated to college websites. So, e.g., one tab for every class I've taken this semester, one tab for every course I consider taking next semester, ...
Makes around 30 tabs.

So I have all the college stuff in one place where I can easily find it. I don't have to organize or manage bookmarks for all those tabs. They are just there whenever I need them. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to bookmark every website of a course I might be interested in.


Then I'm trying to learn some Android programming. For that I also have a dedicated window with lots of tabs. For example for various tutorials and online-documentation. All that is easily accessible and just as I left it, whenever I need it.


Leaving everything open is just the most convenient way to do it. There isn't much of a downside to that.
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You sir are doing it right.
 
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kaskade

Member
So after using it for a few days I do like it, it's pretty comparable to chrome now. The only thing I miss is the omnibar. Specifically the search. I liked being able to type, neo hit tab then search gaf, or any other site.
 
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Slayven

Member
Man they really improved from the beta, 4 use to suck down memory like a vamp. But now it running lighter then 3 did.
 
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