First Horizon review [Engadget]
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It's still probably a great game. But we're two days away from the embargo so you'll get your confirmation soon enough
Triggerhappytel
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Is it a proper review, or one of their silly ones?
Ha ha, when you put it like that the concern and trolling around this game has really been something else. I think Tree Density Guy has been my favourite so far.
Equanimity
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You can break down Far Cry wild life in three categories:
1, Harmless - likely to run away
2. Aggressive - likely to attack
3. Deadly - likely to kill
All three categories are mechanically simple and similar to hunt down. Oh and you can use bait to lure some of the aggressive and deadly animals.
As for Horizon Zero Dawn, there are reportedly 25 individual robots to hunt. And most of them are equipped with unique combat weaponry, melee attacks and special abilities.
Almost all of the robots have unique vulnerabilities and require divergent tactics.
Yeah I have played through Mass Effect 1-3, Uncharted 1-4 and Far Cry 1-4.
Here's what I said earlier:
The robot A.I. is working as intended in that clip; Aloy was hiding in the tall grass.
Are we reviewing review threads now?
If anything, this leaked review took away from the magic of the combined meltdown. This is 1000 posts that could have added to the insanity.
7/10 UC4 had a better review thread
Twilight Princess
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I wish it had more than 25 types of robots. Hopefully there are other activities/enemies that make up for it.
Crayon
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I'm honestly thinking about trying to play this alongside Zelda and Nier just to be up to the minute on the drama. I know I can't play all three. I've decided to wait maybe a month on horizon but the prospect of board drama is sucking me in.
Ocarina_117
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That's nice. But you really can't disagree with a reviewers opinion of a game until you've played the game in question.
Breh drama is fun and all, but don't base your purchases on it lol
Frostman
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Yeah, I'm buggered with those 3 games coming out. I've decided I'll play them in the order they'll release finishing 1 before moving on, but when Zelda and Nier turn up it will be a challenge.
I'm not going to rush.
Equanimity
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It is nice. I have seen enough of Horizon to form an opinion on their unreasonable/false comparisons.
10/10 post.Welll...
TheRealTalker
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came back to this thread and lolololol
poor GG they are ridiculed like Crytek even before their game comes out
I remember all those GG should be shut down threads and the anger post on GG earning a hefty profit and being profitable even with ShadowFall
it seems regardless of what overall total score this game gets... be it good or bad or in between the thread will be overly interesting due to the fact that it is GG's game
oh and that recent thread were Kojima was using their engine lol
poor GG they are ridiculed like Crytek even before their game comes out
I remember all those GG should be shut down threads and the anger post on GG earning a hefty profit and being profitable even with ShadowFall
it seems regardless of what overall total score this game gets... be it good or bad or in between the thread will be overly interesting due to the fact that it is GG's game
oh and that recent thread were Kojima was using their engine lol
Crayon
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I cannot tell a lie. I enjoy my gaffing as much as my gaming.
Let me just make this clear, the review is clearly a 8/10 review. It's short, concise and gets the point across. This thread on the other hand, is a 6.9/10. There's way too much Far Cry talk, it needs more Zelda talk. The lack of gifs is also concerning.
The review thread is looking to be a solid 8/10 to 9/10 depending on the meltdowns we get.
I give your comment at 5/10, but you're a pretty solid 7/10 commentator.
onemanasylum
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Reviewing review threads is a great idea, this thread would be a what preview thread then?
DriftingSpirit
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Oh, we getting meta. Reviewing review threads. I kinda like it.
More_Badass
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A pre-review thread
onemanasylum
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Ah yes makes sense.
AnthonypUK
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Silly or serious, they've pretty much lost any talent they had, they're a joke website at this point.
amstradcpc
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Before, people bitched about bad reviews.I dont know what happens with Sony exclusives that we have got the phase in which people bitch about good reviews. Do people want games to be bad?.
This is trolling evolved...
This is trolling evolved...
onemanasylum
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Some want this game to be bad because it's a sony first party game, which is sad, especially considering how good sony's lineup this year is. I want all games to be good and do well for the industry.
Tarextherex
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Yeah this review it's pretty terrible, this has nothing to do with the gender of the person reviewing it, it's simply not well-written and barely talks about the game. People are worried about that game being simply another action-rpg as the market is oversaturated with them, yet the reviewer is someone who basically started playing games in 2014 and has very little experience with the genre. This doesn't answer the worries about the quality of the game, this simply raves about the protagonist. Such a review is about as relevant as the Ni No Kuni reviews made by Ghibli fans that haven't played an JRPG in 20 years that were in love with the game's art and setting and liked how it had "the right kind of anime influence" unlike other modern jrpgs when the gameplay itself is quite mediocre
WordsintheWater
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It's a proper one
Infinite WIN xd
This
Maybe some really want to continue the "no games" narrative. They feel threatened when a game scores high.
Jawbreaker
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What the hell are you talking about? Where are you even getting this from? Jess has been around much longer than Engadget and certainly playing games for longer. Why does she not have experience with the genre? She clearly states that she has played open world games in the past — it's just she hasn't loved them enough to play them for tens of hours.
digoutyoursoul
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This happens with a lot of console exclusive games, not just Sony. How many fanboys on the Sony side just want to rub it in people's faces with their ridiculous "them against us" mentality which I can't stand from fanboys in general not just the PlayStation side of things.
I agree with what you say, it's just common sense and benefits us that games get better but these termites don't see it that way and even worse some are adults.
Tarextherex
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That still counts as not much experience in the genre, either way her reason for loving this one is very poorly justified. It would be like if someone who never played much fighting games did a review for Pokken and loved it because it has easy combos/more importantly it has Pokemon
But characters and story are important to a RPG, action or not, so not really like that. Also based on pretty much all the information we have (which is a lot), the combat and the gameplay in general is one of it's strongest part, only really the human encounters have been not positively received.
Jawbreaker
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No, her review is actually super important. In a medium that has been dominated by male leads without consideration for feminist critique, it's refreshing to read a woman's review of a game where she was able to deeply connect with a character — enough to endear her to a genre she normally doesn't get a lot of enjoyment playing. Her review wasn't speaking to you or a lot of other people, and that's OK. You're making it about you, when in fact, there's a very important segment of gamers this speaks more directly to.
It wouldn't be like that at all. Easy combos don't make a game better. Good writing and compelling characters do
Leaks are fine, magazine scans aren't.
Riposte
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Feminist critique? The review is way too shallow to even approach that.
Jawbreaker
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I'm not saying her article was a feminist critique, I'm talking about games in general. I'm speaking about how little representation — especially good representation — there has been.
You may have noticed that she only referenced lady protagonists. Perhaps because Aloy is a lady protagonist?
DriftingSpirit
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Huh, now that you mention, what kind of consequences come from slipping up on stuff like this?
You can like things outwith your normal tastes, you know.
But i do understand what you're saying. Different strokes.
True!
Riposte
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Unless I'm going blind (just skimmed over it again), this whole aspect isn't brought up in the review at all - it seems to be something you are interpreting from it (I guess since so little is actually said besides "I LIKE THIS! THIS IS COOL!", you have a lot of room to do so). It wouldn't suddenly redeem the review, but I admit I couldn't just disregard that because I couldn't truly speak from that perspective. On the other hand, my problem isn't what the review is aiming to do, I think it's thoroughly shallow, inane, and full of cliches. There's been many reviews in styles I don't appreciate and may even find a bit antagonistic to my views on art, but I don't think they are garbage or automatically poorly written. You also said "Her review wasn't speaking to you or a lot of other people, and that's OK", but that's just a boring dismissal - you can still judge reviews on what they are attempting or whether they come close to achieving it, just like you can judge a game that doesn't "speak to you".
Her review is focused around how much she likes Aloy, but her attempt to explain why is totally vapid. Just read the final paragraph again, it totally side-steps the gender thing and goes with something completely trite instead (The character doesn't know her place in the world sometimes, I don't know my place in the world sometimes - whoa!). Similarly, the fact Aloy's tribe is a matriarchy is mentioned, but it's no more meaningful than a sentence you could pull out from a wiki article or the back of the box; no actual thought is derived from this fact. But whatever, we seem to agree it's not a feminist critique. I didn't really intend to comment on this again, but I found your attempt to elevate it and thus make it seem the problem was with a reaction to feminism to be grating and dishonest.
I don't really agree. Having experience is important but having someone who isn't into open world games or been a gamer for their entire life is as just an important outlook as a hardcore gamer who has played every single open world or ARPG out there. Just because they don't speak to you doesn't mean their views are any less important. Diversity in game reviews is just as important as anywhere else in the industry. If anything I think the fact that non open world fanatics are having a great time about this game says even more than people who have played every single open world game ever liking it. Its a game that appeals to many people for many different reasons, nothing wrong with that and I consider it a plus.
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