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First Madden 360 [RENDERED] shot!

midnightguy said:
image of Nike CG television commercial
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image of EA realtime Madden videogame
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:D

but! I still stand by what I said a few pages ago. that NO football game in the coming Xbox360, Revolution, Playstation3 generation (2005-2010/11) will look like that commercial.
Your pics suggest otherwise but animation will be the big determinant.
 
I remember FMT was apparently the only person to report the Xbox slowdown before release last summer. You know, it really is mind-boggling that not a single preview (or pre-release mag review) mentioned it. How can that happen? That's another example why sports reviews are worthless.
 
m0dus said:
How long have you been on the internet? Or, for that matter, the GAF? I wrote "you are teh bias" How you manage to take that seriously is beyond me, from where I stand, I was poking harmless fun, braniac, because you guys continuously harp on ESPN's animations--and I really don't give two shits about them. I'm not retreating to anything, as I've already said I don't give a flying fuck what you think. I also already mentioned I have NO INTEREST IN ESPN MLB. How blind do you have to be to KEEP missing the joke? :lol


most likely because youre always acting like a retard, its hard to tell if you are being serious or not.
 
m0dus said:
You know, you're right--I've had a hard time taking anything you've written seriously as result of that little fact.

needless to say, you guys are taking this shit a bit too seriously.

no ur dumb
 
Guileless said:
I remember FMT was apparently the only person to report the Xbox slowdown before release last summer. You know, it really is mind-boggling that not a single preview (or pre-release mag review) mentioned it. How can that happen? That's another example why sports reviews are worthless.
Number 1 reason why renting sports games is the ONLY way to go.

DCX
 
that NO football game in the coming Xbox360, Revolution, Playstation3 generation (2005-2010/11) will look like that commercial.
No doubt about that. I would say that commercials in some ways (lighting, ambiance, cameras) looks better than even live footage could. The animation and modelling is also insanely good.
 
I don't know how anyone would've been able to play Xbox NCAA 2005 and not see the slowdown. Plain as day after like 2 snaps.
 
Madden will be great! The visuals will be outstanding, the Franchise is going to be great and Madden is Madden. I'm looking for new inovations in sports when it comes to animation. Especially in football where the momentum of each play dictates the results. Power, pyschics, field conditions, wind...that is what is going to seperate this gen from the next. How much more can you do with visuals, it's all going to be about AI and psychics.

DCX
 
i really dont know why no one was reporting it either.

again fellas im not trying to brag, i dont know the first thing about journalism or how to write a comprehensive article to be published. but that isn't what reporting on sports games (or any games really) should be about. as far as i'm concerned you should gather the information as you see it, and then post what you see. there are only 2 LOGICAL explanations as to why no one reported the xbox slowdown issue:

1. They only played the ps2 version and figured "hey, xbox is basically the same, we can go ahead and report on it!"

2. They had reservations about bad-mouthing an EA game (i.e. not receiving betas, promos, etc)

good thing for me that i have never received an EA promo nor do i have any ties to EA in anyway (except that i love madden :D )

rest assured friends the real dirt is going to come out regardless.... on 49ers-age.com! you lose GA!



p.s. jk i will post here first
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i really dont know why no one was reporting it either.

again fellas im not trying to brag, i dont know the first thing about journalism or how to write a comprehensive article to be published. but that isn't what reporting on sports games (or any games really) should be about. as far as i'm concerned you should gather the information as you see it, and then post what you see. there are only 2 LOGICAL explanations as to why no one reported the xbox slowdown issue:

1. They only played the ps2 version and figured "hey, xbox is basically the same, we can go ahead and report on it!"

2. They had reservations about bad-mouthing an EA game (i.e. not receiving betas, promos, etc)

good thing for me that i have never received an EA promo nor do i have any ties to EA in anyway (except that i love madden :D )

rest assured friends the real dirt is going to come out regardless.... on 49ers-age.com! you lose GA!



p.s. jk i will post here first


Well you better report to us on all the sports games in E3, we need to know it all!!

DCX
 
dont worry i will. truthfully sports games are all i really care about, thats about all i'll play. for some reason no one reported AT ALL on nba live last year until JUNE! if i had realized it i would've payed more attention at the time. I played 4 or 5 games and gave DM impressions of it, but why didn't any of the sports site report on it? i still dont know why.



i am strangely looking forward to seeing Football 2k6. i have an overwhelming feeling that it's going to be the 2004 chargers of football. what i mean by that is now that the NFL has been taken away, now that there is no officially licensed players/teams, they are going to fix most of the problems and release a great game (not unlike the chargers sucking balls the year before then all of a sudden being great). one thing i can't resist is football, whether it is officially licensed or not. i will buy the game for $19.99, hopefully 2K sports is still interested in making it (there has to be SOME money there...)
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
dont worry i will. truthfully sports games are all i really care about, thats about all i'll play. for some reason no one reported AT ALL on nba live last year until JUNE! if i had realized it i would've payed more attention at the time. I played 4 or 5 games and gave DM impressions of it, but why didn't any of the sports site report on it? i still dont know why.



i am strangely looking forward to seeing Football 2k6. i have an overwhelming feeling that it's going to be the 2004 chargers of football. what i mean by that is now that the NFL has been taken away, now that there is no officially licensed players/teams, they are going to fix most of the problems and release a great game (not unlike the chargers sucking balls the year before then all of a sudden being great). one thing i can't resist is football, whether it is officially licensed or not. i will buy the game for $19.99, hopefully 2K sports is still interested in making it (there has to be SOME money there...)


So they still are going ahead and releasing a football game anyway? Man they could have done great if they had a fan contest where we could send in some head shots, simple info like hometown player number, real name and be on these rosters....that would have OWNED !!!

DCX
 
sp0rsk said:
also the lighting on the arms is a little weird...

I noticed that too. It reminds me of the effect EA's been using this gen to simulate lighting. Gawd, I don't want to see that next gen as well.

The bad thing about these screens is that they've killed my interest in Madden and NCAA 2006 on the current platforms. A week ago I was looking forward to this season's games, now all I want to play is next gen Madden.
 
Goreomedy said:
"Gee, how can I twist a complement into scathing criticism so that I'm not betraying my japanophile brethren?"
O_o Are you an insecure EA whore? I've said a number of times already that this game looks phenomenal. And unlike the doubters, I actually expect it to look quite close to these shots here. And personally, I think if EA can do this, that the powerhouses with the better art talent are gonna shame what we've seen of UT3. I said it a few months back and some replied that UT3 was the foundation of lots of different engines, and how it would probably be one of the best engines when it's done. I'm starting to doubt it. I think UT3 might be geared more to a generation of PC cards that's not quite on the level of the next-gen hw. It's all based on sketchy demos so far with no actual game footage yet. But wow, when you're throwing 22 players on the screen with this nice detail (LOD notwithstanding), then the likes of MGS4, GT5, Tekken6, DOA3-ish or whatever. Then again, Madden and the rest could just as easily fall apart in motion, while UT pics up ground there or something. Meh, just random speculation. But I'm not convinced the balance of power will suddenly tip in favor of the PC devs. PEACE.
 
I noticed that too. It reminds me of the effect EA's been using this gen to simulate lighting. Gawd, I don't want to see that next gen as well.

Yeah...you'd think they'd get away from doing that in the next gen. It's pretty gross.
 
With each screen, the game keeps looking less like concept art and more like what I'm expecting from next gen consoles. Not that that's bad, it's still beautiful, but the latest screen seems more down to reality.
 
either way i have only been back to that site once in the past year, and that was a few weeks ago to tell a developer from VC that he is full of shit and espn mlb 2k5 sucks nuts

:lol

Bless you sir...

And Modus,if you don't care about the topic at hand,why post in here to begin with?
 
Iamthegamer said:
With each screen, the game keeps looking less like concept art and more like what I'm expecting from next gen consoles. Not that that's bad, it's still beautiful, but the latest screen seems more down to reality.

fuck I thought I was the only one who saw this. On the same note, notice how with each pic the arms look less detailed and more plastic. But just as you said, it's not a bad thing, it just helps balance the blind hype.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i am strangely looking forward to seeing Football 2k6. ...i can't resist is football, whether it is officially licensed or not. i will buy the game for $19.99, hopefully 2K sports is still interested in making it (there has to be SOME money there...)

So they're still going through with making a football game this year? I thought you said you were through with the 2K stuff and had given them enough chances.
 
newsguy said:
fuck I thought I was the only one who saw this. On the same note, notice how with each pic the arms look less detailed and more plastic. But just as you said, it's not a bad thing, it just helps balance the blind hype.
I don't see any decrease in detail on the arms and more plasticy is not less impressive since its more difficult to do a surface with specular highlights than it is to do one with a matte finish.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Boy...am I gonna be right about Japanese devs shaming those Unreal3 shots when they start putting some delicious artwork in their games. If EA is even thinking about doing something like this with their hack employees, then the likes of Namco, Tecmo and KCEJ are gonna blow our socks off. MGS4, get! PEACE.
PEACE.
 
So they're still going through with making a football game this year? I thought you said you were through with the 2K stuff and had given them enough chances.

i said i was finished w/ their crappy products after last year. and let me tell you something, if ESPN NFL/NBA/MLB 2k5 would have been anything over $19.99, i wouldn't have thought twice about skipping them. but $20 ain't a hell of a lot of money to me. if their games stay $20 i will likely try them out regardless. when it comes to sports games, especially football, i have a hardtime passing up budget games. but in the future if VC/Take 2 ever charge anything over $19.99 (even for Xbox 360/ps3/rev games) i will pass regardless.

in baseball it's to the point where i will honestly buy EA College Baseball MVP 2006 for $49.99 over MLB 2k6 by 2k sports for $19.99


so, at the end of the day even though i despise most of VC's products, i am a sports fan at heart and i will always give sports games a proper chance. call it a character flaw or me not learning my lesson after being burned by VC time and again, but what can i do
 
Wow. I think 2 and 4 look more like CG than 1 and 3.
1 has a really blocky nose and 3 has some 'this gen' arms.

:lol

olimario why are you in this thread? do you even play sports games? im not saying you need to be a sports pro to comment on graphics, but maybe you should stick to links camel toe in regards to graphics in games. you have no business in a sports thread my friend
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
:lol

olimario why are you in this thread? do you even play sports games? im not saying you need to be a sports pro to comment on graphics, but maybe you should stick to links camel toe in regards to graphics in games. you have no business in a sports thread my friend
The majority of the people in this thread have probably never touched a football title in their gaming careers, but their in here to turn the thread into an early next gen console wars/ea bitch thread. How do you think we got to 15 pages. ;)
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
so, at the end of the day even though i despise most of VC's products, i am a sports fan at heart and i will always give sports games a proper chance.

FMT +1 in Dsal's book. I do the same thing with the Live series. I haven't liked many of them this generation, but that won't stop me from always checking out what they offer. Same thing with the 989 stuff. They had a very rough run for a while and then they suddenly craft a baseball game that everyone's talking about.

I just have a lot of fun seeing what everyone comes up with every year. That's why all this exclusivity stuff is ruining a lot of my fun as a sports game fan.
 
midnightguy said:
Is the Day 5 picture around yet? the Day 4 Pic came out way early....
Waiting for Day 5 but with the leaks recently i'm sure we won't see any tonight and they will actually wait til Day 5.

DCX
 
DCX said:
I wonder if EA can render this bad boy with brow and all!
TIKIMAYBEN150.JPG

:lol :lol :lol

DCX

holy shit :( Is it that hard just to put a razor between your eyes and fix that abnormality. Anyway, 10:30 now, central time. Next half hour it should be up right?
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
in baseball it's to the point where i will honestly buy EA College Baseball MVP 2006 for $49.99 over MLB 2k6 by 2k sports for $19.99

I would so buy that in a heartbeat. Do it EA! Do it!
 
I swear I think that is the actual game,look at Reid's finger!You telling me that couldn't make that look 10x better if it was CG?But,I still don't know why they wouldn't just say yea it's next gen,unless they can't actual reveal that it's an Xbox 360 title yet or whatever so they have to label it CG.

Awesome pic though,that looks alot more like McNabbs face than the play barking one in the day 3 pic :P
 
Well, they could likely make his finger look better on 360 too, it's just how thorough the developers are. Still very nice though. I'm excited for Saturday :D
 
op_ivy said:
Well, I guess it's possible that actual gameplay could look better than this, because this shot is really, really ordinary looking.

Honestly though, it's just so coincidental that shortly before the final pic was released, IGN broke the news that these pictures AND the commercial are just "interpretations". If we'd known that from the start, would anyone even give a shit?
 
vatstep said:
Well, I guess it's possible that actual gameplay could look better than this, because this shot is really, really ordinary looking.

mcnabb looks great still, but the coach lacks all the great lighting seen in the player models, including any self-shadowing. that could possibly be expected for sideline models though.

Honestly though, it's just so coincidental that shortly before the final pic was released, IGN broke the news that these pictures AND the commercial are just "interpretations". If we'd known that from the start, would anyone even give a shit?

no. its just fucking mock ups. dissapoitment all around. i dont care how many EA employee/industry vets chime in and say the final looks better. i feel like i was taken for a ride

*cry



:P
 
Yep, that was really stupid of EAsports. My main concern was how clean they would be able to get the game to look and it now it seems that the perfect AA was due to the fact that its a render. The coach's model has advanced as much as the player one if you compare coaches from the older games.
 
Hype was high and now it's pretty low...hopefully the teaser at the Draft will run it high again and carry it into E3.

DCX
 
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