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_Isaac · Nov 2, 2011

Van Owen said:
It was a first for me too.

Did you get a lot of weird looks? I know I'd be red as a tomato.

Van Owen · Nov 2, 2011

_Isaac said:
Did you get a lot of weird looks? I know I'd be red as a tomato.

Luckily I was in the corner of the room and it was late so there weren't many people there. The guy next to me spotted me for the first set lol.

Jason's Ultimatum · Nov 2, 2011

Yeah, you're doing way too much, chief. You should check out the routines in the OP, like the A/B splits.

Luscious LeftFoot · Nov 2, 2011

Mully, take a look at Layne Norton Training or maybe even Lyle McDonald bulking program from the OP. They both seem to have more volume than the strength training programs, might be more up your alley

Like MJFrancis said you're far removed from being a beginner, if you want to continue to see gains, you're going to need a more solid program than what you're currently doing.

Regardless which program you choose, your numbers are all quite good, taking a step back in the intensity will have them skyrocket.

MjFrancis · Nov 2, 2011

Keep us posted, Mully. Let us know what intermediate program fits your bill. And always consider that your best gains will come after you cease your fat loss - gaining strength on a caloric deficit is even more difficult, though far from impossible.

TheKaeptain · Nov 2, 2011

Ok so I am back in the gym after three months off (pulled my hammy and strained my MCL). So I will be posting in here more often. Since I couldn't even lift anything my deadlift and squat has gone down a lot.

I'll work back up though. I've taking it slow this last week.

Weird question. WTF is HGC? It seems like a very popular over the counter drug of choice. A bunch of dudes I know take it and I have no clue what it does? Is it a scaled down version of HGH?

Mully · Nov 2, 2011

MjFrancis said:
Keep us posted, Mully. Let us know what intermediate program fits your bill. And always consider that your best gains will come after you cease your fat loss - gaining strength on a caloric deficit is even more difficult, though far from impossible.

Will do. I'm definitely taking tomorrow off and just doing cardio. Friday and Saturday I will most likely take off to, and try to read up on some routines.

MjFrancis · Nov 2, 2011

CaptYamato said:
Weird question. WTF is HGC? It seems like a very popular over the counter drug of choice. A bunch of dudes I know take it and I have no clue what it does? Is it a scaled down version of HGH?

Are you referring to hCG?

TheKaeptain · Nov 2, 2011

MjFrancis said:
Are you referring to hCG?

No, I know what that is. That is what I thought they were talking about. What my friend talking about is called Human Growth Complex.

MjFrancis · Nov 2, 2011

If you are talking about UltraLab Nutrition Human Growth Complex then that product is a self-described homeopathic remedy and I'm skeptical enough to call it snake oil before I even know what's in it. Homeopathy is bullshit.

parrotbeak · Nov 2, 2011

Ultra Lab Nutrition Human Growth Complex said:
Somatotrophine(gh) 12x, insulin-like growth factor-1, (igf-1) 12x, alfalfa 3x, arnica montana 15x, arsenicum album 15x, baptisia 15x, glesemium sempervirens 15x, lacticum acidum 15x, lycopodium clavatum 15x, , phophorus 15x, rhus toxicodendron 15x, ruta graveolens 10x.

So wiki tells me those x's mean the dilution ratio, so that first thing is 1/1,000,000,000,000 somatotrophine. Probably more growth hormone in tap water.

TheKaeptain · Nov 2, 2011

parrotbeak said:
So wiki tells me those x's mean the dilution ratio, so that first thing is 1/1,000,000,000,000 somatotrophine. Probably more growth hormone in tap water.

Lol can't believe people buy shit like this.

MjFrancis · Nov 2, 2011

Your acquaintances might actually be better off with the hCG, lol. Tell them to look up homeopathy and save 'em a few bucks. Unless you don't like them, of course.

reilo · Nov 2, 2011

Buying anything homeopathy is literally buying a watered-down product and believing it does anything. /mindfuck

parrotbeak · Nov 2, 2011

I think a lot of people just don't know what the word means. They think it means "natural" or "home remedy." Not that other medicines don't have a lot of placebo effect working for them also, but at least they actually have active ingredients in them. The idea behind homeopathy is literally magical thinking -- that by having contact with certain things, the water takes on those properties and then passes them into your body. It's pure bs.

Jason's Ultimatum · Nov 2, 2011

Yup.

My standing OHP sucks. I can only do 135 for 3.

TheKaeptain · Nov 2, 2011

MjFrancis said:
Your acquaintances might actually be better off with the hCG, lol. Tell them to look up homeopathy and save 'em a few bucks. Unless you don't like them, of course.

I asked him why he just doesn't do HGH. It not like we don't know people that can easily get him some.

dgenx · Nov 2, 2011

hey guys , I did back and biceps today.Then like half an hour after the gym I started t ofeel a sore spot on my spine, its located in the middle, it just feels unconfortable but it hurts when i push it, is it too bad? or i should just have some ibuprofen and rest?

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 2, 2011

Welcome back Yam, I've been asking about you!

Jason's Ultimatum said:
Yup.

My standing OHP sucks. I can only do 135 for 3.

That's not terrible. I see guys doing way less and making loud fucking stupid noises when they do it.

parrotbeak · Nov 2, 2011

dgenx said:
hey guys , I did back and biceps today.Then like half an hour after the gym I started t ofeel a sore spot on my spine, its located in the middle, it just feels unconfortable but it hurts when i push it, is it too bad? or i should just have some ibuprofen and rest?

What exercises did you do?

dgenx · Nov 2, 2011

parrotbeak said:
What exercises did you do?

Lat pulldowns
a pull up machine
Seated Pulley Rows

parrotbeak · Nov 2, 2011

dgenx said:
Lat pulldowns
a pull up machine
Seated Pulley Rows

Did you keep your spine neutral the whole time? Hopefully it is just a muscle. If it continues to hurt or interferes with your normal activities or you get any weakness, tingling or pain outside of that area, you probably want to see a doctor. Otherwise, I'd ice it and rest for a few days.

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This video made me lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwsEdKxYKeY

dgenx · Nov 2, 2011

parrotbeak said:
Did you keep your spine neutral the whole time? Hopefully it is just a muscle. If it continues to hurt or interferes with your normal activities or you get any weakness, tingling or pain outside of that area, you probably want to see a doctor. Otherwise, I'd ice it and rest for a few days.

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This video made me lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwsEdKxYKeY

i think i feel some weakness, but i dont know if its cause of the pain or it something serious, waht could it be? hernia?

also yeah lol video

parrotbeak · Nov 2, 2011

dgenx said:
i think i feel some weakness, but i dont know if its cause of the pain or it something serious, waht could it be? hernia?

also yeah lol video

Can't say without an mri, but if you just worked out today you'd likely have weakness from having just worked out. I'd see in the next few days. Could just be an irritation in the soft tissues. How often do you do those?

parrotbeak · Nov 2, 2011

Holy shit, I think this is the worst gym fail video I've seen so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Uv7IoVPUZPE

reilo · Nov 2, 2011

parrotbeak said:
Holy shit, I think this is the worst gym fail video I've seen so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Uv7IoVPUZPE

WHY WAS HE NOT USING HIS THUMBS?!

Oh my god.

deadbeef · Nov 2, 2011

parrotbeak said:
Holy shit, I think this is the worst gym fail video I've seen so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Uv7IoVPUZPE

Did he die right after that?

TheKaeptain · Nov 2, 2011

parrotbeak said:
Holy shit, I think this is the worst gym fail video I've seen so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Uv7IoVPUZPE

0_0 who taught him how to bench?

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 2, 2011

parrotbeak said:
Holy shit, I think this is the worst gym fail video I've seen so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Uv7IoVPUZPE

LOL, I'll be honest though, now that I bench like a mother fucking man, I worry about that shit happening all the god damned time.

reilo said:
WHY WAS HE NOT USING HIS THUMBS?!

Oh my god.

There's a lot of guys who use the suicide grip for some reason.

Also, bonus points for the cowboy and paully D in the background.

That one wasn't even painful to watch.

Check out what happens when Humpty Dumpty gets smashed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv7I...list=ULWisUYRRO4VE&lf=mfu_in_order&playnext=1

Rookje · Nov 2, 2011

What iPhone app do you guys use to track your lift max history?

parrotbeak · Nov 2, 2011

Alienshogun said:
Check out what happens when Humpty Dumpty gets smashed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv7I...list=ULWisUYRRO4VE&lf=mfu_in_order&playnext=1

? that's the same vid I posted.

Splash Wave · Nov 2, 2011

I have a very particular and probably trivial diet question:

My daily snack consists of a protein bar and a serving cashews, and I'm thinking of substituting the latter for a banana because they taste better, contain less calories, and are more filling. But the banana also contains more carbohydrates and sugar. Does it matter?

If it helps to know, I'm currently cutting while doing SS.

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 2, 2011

parrotbeak said:
? that's the same vid I posted.

Weird, here.

http://youtu.be/WisUYRRO4VE

I'm pretty sure you hear his ribs break.

parrotbeak · Nov 2, 2011

Alienshogun said:
Weird, here.

http://youtu.be/WisUYRRO4VE

I'm pretty sure you hear his ribs break.

Oh shit, ya, I heard bones cracking. Goddamn.

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 2, 2011

Rookje said:
What iPhone app do you guys use to track your lift max history?

Imemory, or Inotebook, but usually Imemory.

MjFrancis · Nov 2, 2011

I winced.

I did so on both of them, but moreso with the video AlienShogun posted since I'd never seen that one before.

Ouch.

reilo · Nov 2, 2011

MjFrancis said:
I winced.

I did so on both of them, but moreso with the video AlienShogun posted since I'd never seen that one before.

Ouch.

And he had three spotters that failed to catch the bar.

ezrarh · Nov 2, 2011

This was the first time I saw Shogun's vid and holyyyshiiiiit.

TheKaeptain · Nov 2, 2011

When I would go to the gym in the morning I would see a guy bounce 205 off his chest and I swear by his last rep I thought he would drop it. Fucking gross.

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 2, 2011

CaptYamato said:
When I would go to the gym in the morning I would see a guy bounce 205 off his chest and I swear by his last rep I thought he would drop it. Fucking gross.

There's a guy that tried to recruit me to bench with him (even though I'm way stronger than him) and that's how he does reps. Every one he bounces off his fucking chest like it's legit.

kehs · Nov 2, 2011

bouncing off chest? what is that?

Cudder · Nov 3, 2011

Copernicus said:
bouncing off chest? what is that?

on your way down, making the bar tap your chest and then immediately pushing the bar up again. it kinda helps with keeping the momentum of the reps.

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 3, 2011

Cudder said:
on your way down, making the bar tap your chest and then immediately pushing the bar up again. it kinda helps with keeping the momentum of the reps.

Or in the case of what we are talking about not just tapping it, but letting it hit hard enough to act like a trampoline.

Kind of like bouncing your reps on a dead lift.

deadbeef · Nov 3, 2011

Alienshogun said:
LOL, I'll be honest though, now that I bench like a mother fucking man, I worry about that shit happening all the god damned time.

What does this even mean

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 3, 2011

deadbeef said:
What does this even mean

I'm a man, and I bench.

parrotbeak · Nov 3, 2011

His wife is also a mom.

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 3, 2011

parrotbeak said:
His wife is also a mom.

There is that too.

kehs · Nov 3, 2011

So bouncing basically it's for power bottoms.

Brolic Gaoler · Nov 3, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB7Ed_DPXNM&feature=feedrec_grec_index

He needs to start supplementing beefaroni.

Splash Wave · Nov 3, 2011

Jimmy Stav said:
I have a very particular and probably trivial diet question:

My daily snack consists of a protein bar and a serving cashews, and I'm thinking of substituting the latter for a banana because they taste better, contain less calories, and are more filling. But the banana also contains more carbohydrates and sugar. Does it matter?

If it helps to know, I'm currently cutting while doing SS.

Tomorrow's snack hangs in the balance! Help!

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