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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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FallingEdge
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Gym time baby.
More weights equals more dates.
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More weights equals more dates.
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Jason's Ultimatum
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Post pics of yourself, then.
I love working out and having women hug me and saying how hard my body is.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I love working out and having women hug me and saying how hard my body is.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
MjFrancis said:
Yeah, that's a given. I more meant only using machines. Which there is a startling amount of people who only do machines for some reason.
FallingEdge said:
Yeah, I use leg extension and leg curl machine, that's it.
Definitely a startling amount. People are stubborn, too - I never recommend a single machine, but people will listen to my advice (that they asked for, nonetheless) and proceed to do circuits on the machines for an hour and a half. It's the allure of "the pump." It has to be. People think if they don't leave the gym half dead they're not doing it right. I blame P90X.Alienshogun said:
Not really, though. Well, maybe a little.
Fun story, today I saw someone Smith machine back squatting with the bar over the front of their toes. It looked awkward, and I wouldn't dare watch them barbell squat for fear of watching them fall headfirst into the mirrors by the squat racks. Or maybe they knew what they were doing for all I know.
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But yeah, I leg press on occasion and rarer still use the leg curl machine. I try to do good mornings every time I feel the urge to supplement with leg curls. Other than that it's all barbell and bodyweight resistance.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
MjFrancis said:
How the hell did they squat with the bar over their toes? The angle of their back was that steep?
Maybe he was doing good mornings, haha.
parrotbeak
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That reminds me of a video....MjFrancis said:
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
parrotbeak said:
Diesel Weasel?
parrotbeak
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No, was thinking about this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6vcyQqx_QAlienshogun said:
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
parrotbeak said:
lol, forgot about that one.
Luscious LeftFoot
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Dash27 said:
Nice. Do you own, or just lucky enough to go to a facility that has one?
I've considered purchasing one, but lugging it around (plus weights) would probably be a bitch.
parrotbeak
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Lol, I just saw that on Sunday when I was reading the OP again.MjFrancis said:
FallingEdge
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Jason's Ultimatum said:
Only one I care about putting on mass for is my gf
Implementing this for pullups in my workouts. Another forum I visit suggested this and said they got solid results after 6 weeks. I will try it that long and see what happens.
That's what I was doing. It took me off guard when I noticed the user name change. But hey, at least we are reading the OP. A crash course refresher never hurt. That way, when I ask someone to read the OP I'll have a vivid understanding of it myself. It's about a ten minute investment, so it's not asking much.parrotbeak said:
Bearded Dudebro
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Anyone got any recommendations for calf exercises that doesn't put the weight on your back? I'd do the Seated Calf Raise, but I don't like the way that your ankle can be allowed to return to less than a 90 degree angle at the bottom of the exercise. I could do it seated with the weight on my knees, but I need way more weight so that's not really feasible. I've tried the calf raises using the leg press machine and even getting enough weight up, I don't want to hurt my back any further.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/seated-calf-raise
http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/seated-calf-raise
parrotbeak
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I rarely do calf raises but when I do, I use the seated. What's the objection to the ankle flex at bottom?Bearded Dudebro said:
Bearded Dudebro
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Too much pressure on the arch of my foot.
parrotbeak said:
Hey everyone, I started training at university since about September to today, and I have a couple of questions. First of all I should mention I've never done any weight training prior to this, so I'm pretty much a beginner. Oh, might as well fill this up:
Age: 19
Height: 5'9
Weight: around 169 pounds
Goal: Strength increase, something like bench more is a goal I'd like to accomplish
Current Training Schedule: ---
Current Training Equipment Available: A gym, so everything I guess
Ok, so I've been training with friends since the beginning of school. They all follow the same training routine, which is a different muscle group from monday to friday. First question is, is this really the best way to go? I feel like benching once a week isn't enough for what I want to accomplish, so I'm wondering if I should go for full body workouts or split. The beginner workout in the first post looks good, but I have weak arms which limits my potential in a lot of exercises (I always feel as though my triceps fail before my pecs in any benching exercise) so doing arms once a week might be too little...
Also, I'd like to lose a bit of fat, nothing too unrealistic just love handles and a bit of stomach fat (I'm guessing maybe around max 10 pounds). However, should I do cardio everyday or 3 times a week? I plan on alternating between jogging and quick walk for 35-40 minutes as my cardio workout. Anyway, thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this. Oh, I also take a protein shake after each workout (30g), is this ok?
Age: 19
Height: 5'9
Weight: around 169 pounds
Goal: Strength increase, something like bench more is a goal I'd like to accomplish
Current Training Schedule: ---
Current Training Equipment Available: A gym, so everything I guess
Ok, so I've been training with friends since the beginning of school. They all follow the same training routine, which is a different muscle group from monday to friday. First question is, is this really the best way to go? I feel like benching once a week isn't enough for what I want to accomplish, so I'm wondering if I should go for full body workouts or split. The beginner workout in the first post looks good, but I have weak arms which limits my potential in a lot of exercises (I always feel as though my triceps fail before my pecs in any benching exercise) so doing arms once a week might be too little...
Also, I'd like to lose a bit of fat, nothing too unrealistic just love handles and a bit of stomach fat (I'm guessing maybe around max 10 pounds). However, should I do cardio everyday or 3 times a week? I plan on alternating between jogging and quick walk for 35-40 minutes as my cardio workout. Anyway, thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this. Oh, I also take a protein shake after each workout (30g), is this ok?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
entrement said:
Uh, change it up? Add more weight, etc?
Jason's Ultimatum
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entrement said:
Get your dick really hard and fling it up using your waist band while working out.
I've definitely had a few rough days at the gym. I think I may have to take a break for a week. Even though I've taken 3 days off in the past 2 weeks, my body is not recovering as well as it should. I can barely do 205 on the bench right now and that's my normal bench weight. It's even becoming difficult to stay at my normal shoulder press weight of 90lbs.
Does it sound like I need a break?
Does it sound like I need a break?
Jason's Ultimatum
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Do you get enough sleep? How's your diet? What are your sets/reps like?
cuevas. PhD.
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I don't get how that happens :/Van Owen said:
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I get about 5-8 hours of sleep daily. My diet is pretty good. I eat atleast 4 pieces of fruit a day, plus a large helping of carbs, and I always have my Big 100 Bar and a protein shake after every workout (about 100g of Protein).
When I workout, I normally do 4 sets of 12 reps. If I'm trying to up my weight, I'll do 3 sets of 10.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
cuevas said:
Probably too much weight.
ezrarh said:
I'm thinking about that. I'm already on track to lose the weight I wanted to, in the time I want to. I go to the gym atleast 4 days a week, most of the time 5. When I go, I normally do a full workout of upper, back, legs, and cardio. It's been working, but like I said I'm really struggling with my normal lifts and even my runs. (Calf and Hamstring Cramps)
My usual workout goes as follows:
1. Shoulder Press
2. Bench
3. Skull Crushers
4. Bicep Curls
5. Lateral Raises
6. Seated Row
7. Pec Deck
8. Delt Deck
9. Squats
10. Seated Calf Raises
11. Atleast 30 minutes of cardio
12. 5, 2 Minute Plank Holds with 1 minute rests.
13. Ab Coaster
Thing is, if I were to split up my days into leg days, chest, back, etc. I would feel uncomfortable. I don't like the feeling of leaving the gym after a 45 minute workout.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Mully said:
You do that in one day?
Not only is it too much, but you have shit mixed in there that doesn't really make sense to me.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Mully said:
I'm not you, I'm not going to tell you what to do (lifting wise).
If I were you, I would read the OP.
If you've been lifting for only 1.5 years you could literally do anything and see results, that's not indicative of doing "it" correctly.
entrement said:
What exactly are you doing and how long is 'a bit now'?
Last cycle I did SS for about 6 months which was too long looking back. Maybe a bit boring but the personal record on every lift every other day kept it interesting enough.
This time around we switched it up a bit. Squats last instead of first, Squats 2x a week instead of 3, added power cleans, added curls to alternate with chins/pullups, and added a conditioning workout on Mondays which keeps things interesting. Stuff like using a prowler sled, farmer carries, box jumps, short sprints... stuff like that.
Alienshogun said:
Sorry if I came off condescending. I had no intention to. I'm just looking for some advice and criticism of my routine and what you guys would change about it.
I'm 6'2, 205. I'm trying to lose weight while still gaining muscle. I have been doing this routine for a year and a half and I'm starting to see myself losing strength. I did my max for most of my lifts this morning in a weight training class that I take 2 times a week. My maxes are up, but I feel like my normal lifts are becoming more difficult.
I know a lot about training for soccer and running a lot, when it comes to lifting I know very little. I know how to do lifts and how to gain muscle, but beyond that it's pretty confusing on what to do and how to do it. Would you suggest that I remove some of my lifts? Or take more rest? Etc.
That's what he was doing a month ago. Four to five times a week. Now, don't tell me that some cat who can bench 185lbs for 12, two sets of 205lbs for 12 and a 215lbs set for 12 4-5 times a week wouldn't be benching 300lbs within 3-6 weeks by scaling it back. He might even be able to rep that weight now!Mully said:
Alienshogun has shown you the right direction Mully. You have strong discipline and a good physical base, but you're an intermediate/advanced lifter now. You can't just fuck around and expect results anymore.
I thought I responded to you before, Mully, but I guess I passed on it. Probably because of the numbers you posted, I figured you knew what you wanted to do and since it worked for you no one could change your mind. And why should they if it was working? Since it's not anymore, you require a method to your madness.
Seriously, you've got potential. Don't get discouraged, just find a solid program written by an expert on strength and work from that.
MjFrancis said:
Thanks I appreciate that. Should I look at the books that the OT suggested?
BTW, that routine I posted is what I was told to do before my Freshman year of college prior to preseasons for soccer. I really haven't been reading much about working out, I've just been elevating from that routine. I was lucky enough to restart that routine a few years ago and not lose much from where I stopped after my injury.
I do have to say though that I've stopped benching 215 at 12 reps since I posted that. You guys were right when you said that I would burn out too quickly. By the time I would get to rows I would be done. I've changed most of my sets to 3, on a good day I'll go to 4 and scaled my lifts down a little. I'm now benching 205 at 12, for 3 consecutive sets. Squats I've scaled down to 295 at 4 sets a piece.
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