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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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Bealost

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I'd take the cashews over a banana, but such a small choice like that between two good foods is hardly something to fret over.
 
Bealost said:
I'd take the cashews over a banana, but such a small choice like that between two good foods is hardly something to fret over.

I'm more curious as to whether or not switching to a banana offers some sort of nutritional "disadvantage."
 

ezrarh

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The sugar you're getting from a banana won't make a big deal if you're doing starting strength. Since you're cutting, you'll want to get as much protein as you can while limiting excess carbs so cashews would be better overall. Although having both would also be an equally fine option.
 

~Kinggi~

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Such fucking ungodly frustration i have to go through with this crap. Stop working out for 5 days and i feel like i undid a month of work. Im having an incredibly difficult time balancing gaining weight and gaining muscle. Cant not stop gaining fat around my midsection while i try and bulk up. I really hate working out.
 

MjFrancis

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One missed day shouldn't be that detrimental for most training regimens. You should be able to pick up where you left off on the next day and keep on truckin'. It's like an extra rest day. That's one of the things I appreciate about Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 system: it's no problem to go from 4 days a week to 3 and back to 4. It's built for that.

Missing five would be more troublesome. It effectively stops a bulk in it's tracks, since eating in caloric excess without training is just getting fat. I typically try to eat at maintenance levels in the above scenario, say, during a vacation where my training halts and I'm effectively just "working out" to keep from falling behind. I don't expect progress in the above scenario but I don't anticipate losing much, either.
 

Gvaz

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I think I'm gonna stay on this cut until I'm thinner.

I was 228 last week and this week I'm 224, I hope it's not vanity pounds or me not eating much that day. I weighed myself around the same time and day of the week both times after my workout.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Gvaz said:
I think I'm gonna stay on this cut until I'm thinner.

I was 228 last week and this week I'm 224, I hope it's not vanity pounds or me not eating much that day. I weighed myself around the same time and day of the week both times after my workout.


4lbs could be nothing more than water weight.

The mirror and how your clothes fit is the best indicator of progress imo. (in relation to cutting/getting thinner)
 

Gvaz

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Alienshogun said:
4lbs could be nothing more than water weight.

The mirror and how your clothes fit is the best indicator of progress imo. (in relation to cutting/getting thinner)
I know, I need to measure myself I haven't done it in a while.

I'm pretty sure I drank enough water every day though, I drink like around 32oz a day of just straight water not counting other liquids like coffee or whatever. Not always but rarely I drink 64oz.
 

Mr.City

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~Kinggi~ said:
Such fucking ungodly frustration i have to go through with this crap. Stop working out for 5 days and i feel like i undid a month of work. Im having an incredibly difficult time balancing gaining weight and gaining muscle. Cant not stop gaining fat around my midsection while i try and bulk up. I really hate working out.

Wut. Whenever you gain muscle, there's always a little fat to go with it.
 

X-Frame

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I have a 32 oz Nalgene bottle I carry with me everywhere. I fill it up at minimum 5-6 times a day. So I'm easily getting 150 oz of straight water per day.
 

Gvaz

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X-Frame said:
I have a 32 oz Nalgene bottle I carry with me everywhere. I fill it up at minimum 5-6 times a day. So I'm easily getting 150 oz of straight water per day.
I have the same thing, but I don't drink nearly that much water ever. I also only workout 3 days a week. I walk about 45 minutes 5 days a week if that even counts.
 
You know what is really fun? Eating. I just hate cooking. If I could have all my meals prepared for me, I would be a beast I tell you. A beast!

RPT going well. I really like the idea of going hard right away and then scaling down. Slowly trying to gain the muscle I had from pre-Vegas. Been doing a lot of pullups/chinups. Same with pushups. This bulk, I really want to focus on my chest and shoulders. I always feel like I have to work harder when it comes to these two areas. Got my legs on lock as squatting 2x a week plus the additional leg exercises are getting me there. My gf says that I lost my booty so I am desperately trying to get that back haha.

;_;
 

Gvaz

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I hate cooking as well!

Like in the morning I wish I could have cereal because I'm not even really awake until 10am and until then I don't feel like waking up to actually cook.
 

Esch

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Cooking is awesome, just dont always have the time sadly so i resort to uni cafeteria stuff. The food's alright there though i suppose.
 

Zalasta

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I'm not seeing much gain in my deadlifts compared to the other exercise. Currently doing 5x10 each time (for 3 days a week). Am I doing myself a disservice by performing too many reps (I understand that the OP recommend 1x5 for a beginner)?
 

X-Frame

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Zalasta said:
I'm not seeing much gain in my deadlifts compared to the other exercise. Currently doing 5x10 each time (for 3 days a week). Am I doing myself a disservice by performing too many reps (I understand that the OP recommend 1x5 for a beginner)?
The DL is one of the most stressful movements for the body. You are most certainly doing too much work or working at too low of an intensity (% of maximum strength).

For the DL you want to, on average, train it once a week. Use the other days to do less intense but supplemental exercises that'll support the DL such as RDL's, Glute/Ham Raise, Hypertextensions, Good Mornings, etc.

Do 1x5 with the 1 as your PR attempting set but do 2 ramp-up sets before hand to warm up. Don't just jump into 1 maximum set of 5.
 

kehs

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Zalasta said:
I'm not seeing much gain in my deadlifts compared to the other exercise. Currently doing 5x10 each time (for 3 days a week). Am I doing myself a disservice by performing too many reps (I understand that the OP recommend 1x5 for a beginner)?

5x10 Deadlifts are a waste of ATP.


Step up the weight and bring down the reps.
 
This is kind of Off Topic but me and my wife have been training for a marathon the last 2 months and holy hell no one told me how boring that can be. Running for 2+ hours 3 times a week means losing your damn mind. Plus I just started realizing how terrible running long distances is for your overall body image. You retain a ton of fat since your body thinks your chasing down a damn wildabeast or something and so you don't get hard and tone but kind of soft since everything you eat your body stores. Bleh I will be happy to get this ish over with.
 

Draft

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Running is the worst.

Distance running? It's crazy. The first man to run a marathon died. It probably wasn't a pretty death, either. The body just shutting down? I bet that toga had a few embarrassing stains.

Sprinting? Hell yeah. A 5k? Maybe once a year. Anything longer than that and you're out of your damn mind. It's not surprising the first thing man invented was the wheel. Even cavemen knew running from place to place was stupid.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Draft said:
Running is the worst.

Distance running? It's crazy. The first man to run a marathon died. It probably wasn't a pretty death, either. The body just shutting down? I bet that toga had a few embarrassing stains.

Sprinting? Hell yeah. A 5k? Maybe once a year. Anything longer than that and you're out of your damn mind. It's not surprising the first thing man invented was the wheel. Even cavemen knew running from place to place was stupid.


Technically it wasn't a marathon yet. ;)
 
Draft said:
Running is the worst.

Distance running? It's crazy. The first man to run a marathon died. It probably wasn't a pretty death, either. The body just shutting down? I bet that toga had a few embarrassing stains.

Sprinting? Hell yeah. A 5k? Maybe once a year. Anything longer than that and you're out of your damn mind. It's not surprising the first thing man invented was the wheel. Even cavemen knew running from place to place was stupid.

Hahahaha so true. How did I let myself get talked into this. Its not even a physical thing either. Once you can run 6 miles you can basically run forever(barring injury) but like you said who the hell wants to?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
BruceLeeRoy said:
Hahahaha so true. How did I let myself get talked into this. Its not even a physical thing either. Once you can run 6 miles you can basically run forever(barring injury) but like you said who the hell wants to?


I ran 11 every so often in the Army just to give the new privates the thought that I was a fucking monster. Glad those days are over.
 

LuCkymoON

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Hi All,
My local rec center has a smith machine and not a squat rack. Should I try to use the smith machine for squatting or use two dumbbells instead?
 

X-Frame

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I've always been terrible at running, but awesome at sprint-related activities.

For example, I used to own at the shuttle run in grade school, but would get 10+ minutes in the mile run. I was fast, quick, but had terrible continuous endurance. It didn't affect me in basketball though, since that is mostly sprints back and forth.

And I am fine with that. :)

LuCkymoON said:
Hi All,
My local rec center has a smith machine and not a squat rack. Should I try to use the smith machine for squatting or use two dumbbells instead?

Don't use the Smith Machine.

Instead, try single-leg squats. YouTube "Bulgarian Split Squats" which you can do holding 2 DB's at your sides, 1 DB/kettlebell at your front. Safer and very effective.
 

IceCold

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Quick question guys: Is it good to do a bunch of push ups a day (like 100-200) while working out? Or is it better to just let your muscles rest when you are not at the gym?
 
X-Frame said:
I've always been terrible at running, but awesome at sprint-related activities.

For example, I used to own at the shuttle run in grade school, but would get 10+ minutes in the mile run. I was fast, quick, but had terrible continuous endurance. It didn't affect me in basketball though, since that is mostly sprints back and forth.

And I am fine with that. :)

Sprinting is definitely where its at.

IceCold said:
Quick question guys: Is it good to do a bunch of push ups a day (like 100-200) while working out? Or is it better to just let your muscles rest when you are not at the gym?

If your already doing a really intense chest workout its best to rest your muscles. You can definitely do it a couple days after chest though to switch things up.
 

exarkun

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I'm at the point where I just can't physically lose any more weight without losing strength, but I'm not very cut. Im down to 175, with what I think is the best weight for me being at 173.

These last two pounds, I have no clue how to lose them without just not abandoning heavy lifting and running almost exclusively. Any tips? I've even started to eat a very healthy calorific amount with pretty good proteins, carbs, and fats going into the body.
 

IceCold

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Draft said:
Running is the worst.

Distance running? It's crazy. The first man to run a marathon died. It probably wasn't a pretty death, either. The body just shutting down? I bet that toga had a few embarrassing stains.

Sprinting? Hell yeah. A 5k? Maybe once a year. Anything longer than that and you're out of your damn mind. It's not surprising the first thing man invented was the wheel. Even cavemen knew running from place to place was stupid.

5K as in 5km? That's not a lot. I know a guy who can run that in 15 mins. Usually when I run for max 20 mins on the treadmill and average around 2.4 miles. Half and full marathons are crazy though. The most I ran was 1 hour and I did 5-6 miles. It was boring as hell. Can't do it without music.
 

exarkun

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cuevas said:

What? I'm just saying I'm eating pretty healthy the last few months. Brown rice when I feel like it(eating rice I mean), chicken, tuna, changed it all up. Grains and yogurt. Am I doing something wrong?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
IceCold said:
5K as in 5km? That's not a lot. I know a guy who can run that in 15 mins. Usually when I run for max 20 mins on the treadmill and average around 2.4 miles. Half and full marathons are crazy though. The most I ran was 1 hour and I did 5-6 miles. It was boring as hell. Can't do it without music.

No offense, but I'm calling bullshit.

5km is a little more than 3 miles, what you're telling me is this guy is running sub 5 min miles for more than 3 miles.

It's doable, but the number of people who can do it are few and far between. Even in my best running shape I was running 5:13 min miles, and that wasn't for 3+ miles at a time.
 

ezrarh

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5km in 15 min is doable but very hard. Must have been a college runner or something. Although 16min would be a more realistic time.

I use to be a cross country runner. Quit after I started college and was like, there's no need to be a scrawny dude anymore. Time to do starting strength.
 

IceCold

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Alienshogun said:
No offense, but I'm calling bullshit.

5km is a little more than 3 miles, what you're telling me is this guy is running sub 5 min miles for more than 3 miles.

It's doable, but the number of people who can do it are few and far between. Even in my best running shape I was running 5:13 min miles, and that wasn't for 3+ miles at a time.

He's a cross country runner. He's in the runner's team of my school.

These are his stats:
1k: 2min 32s
1.5k: 3min 59s
3k: 8min 42s
5k: 14min 45s
10k: 32min
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
IceCold said:
He's a cross country runner. He's in the runner's team of my school.

These are his stats:
1k: 2min 32s
1.5k: 3min 59s
3k: 8min 42s
5k: 14min 45s
10k: 32min


If those are actually his stats that's impressive, but I'm skeptical.

Not a lot of people can run like that.
 

kylej

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BruceLeeRoy said:
This is kind of Off Topic but me and my wife have been training for a marathon the last 2 months and holy hell no one told me how boring that can be. Running for 2+ hours 3 times a week means losing your damn mind. Plus I just started realizing how terrible running long distances is for your overall body image. You retain a ton of fat since your body thinks your chasing down a damn wildabeast or something and so you don't get hard and tone but kind of soft since everything you eat your body stores. Bleh I will be happy to get this ish over with.

Yeah, runner bodies are almost universally terrible. Growing up I had a neighbor who would run double marathons at marathon events (ie he would run the Boston one way, then turn around and do it the other way). Sometimes he'd go out early in the morning and just run in the woods til nightfall covering monstrous distances. Dude always looked like a weird twig. Was impressive though.

Shogun I want you doing this shit soon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yiFtDhMHuc
 

moocow

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What do you guys feel is an acceptable amount of strength loss during a cut? I went down from 163 to 148 and I went down about 10-20 pounds in some of my lifts. ie dumbbell press 110's to 100's.
 
Draft said:
Running is the worst.

Distance running? It's crazy. The first man to run a marathon died. It probably wasn't a pretty death, either. The body just shutting down? I bet that toga had a few embarrassing stains.

Sprinting? Hell yeah. A 5k? Maybe once a year. Anything longer than that and you're out of your damn mind. It's not surprising the first thing man invented was the wheel. Even cavemen knew running from place to place was stupid.
Google Ultramarathon for the lulz.

Specifically The Sri Chinmoy Self-Transcendence 6 & 10
 

OG Kush

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Hey guys is there anything wrong with working on the same muscles more than once a week? I'm doing p90x right now and iit only has one day a week for biceps, triceps and shoulders. I kind of want to do this twice a week but not sure if it will be detrimental?
Thanks
 

snoopen

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OG Kush said:
Hey guys is there anything wrong with working on the same muscles more than once a week? I'm doing p90x right now and iit only has one day a week for biceps, triceps and shoulders. I kind of want to do this twice a week but not sure if it will be detrimental?
Thanks
They're fine after 1 days rest.
 
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