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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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balddemon

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Protein drinks gone bad have to be the worst smelling thing I've ever smelt in all of eternity. Just found my missing blender bottle under my bed....wow. SO bad
 
Protein drinks gone bad have to be the worst smelling thing I've ever smelt in all of eternity. Just found my missing blender bottle under my bed....wow. SO bad
I finished the leftover drink from Friday for breakfast this morning, but it was refrigerated. Smelled like funky milk but tasted fine.
 

ezrarh

Member
Louie Simmons wrote the book on brute strength. He called it the Westside Barbell Book of Methods. Totaling Elite over 50 years old gives him that right, lol. It's almost like a novice should read Starting Strength by Rippetoe, an intermediate may follow the Texas Method, and if you have any future in totaling Elite you should listen to Louie. If I had any plans on it I would.

Yeah, it's definitely something I will look into in the future. Thanks for the recommendation. While I'm only at advance at squats and near advanced on the others (based on the Crossfit standards), it should be useful. I will hopefully end linear progression eventually.
 

mr stroke

Member
Are burpees and other random body weight exercises a good form of cardio in place of running? Having muscles and a crappy heart isn't an aim for me really. Haven't done proper cardio for a while.

Burpees are fantastic. I will do 50 of them on leg days and it gets my heart pumping and produces more sweat than running on the treadmill
 

X-Frame

Member
Thanksgiving in a couple days.

Perfect time for an over-reaching phase in anyone's program and then deload/week off while eating like a mastodon.

I think I am going to do some hill sprints and jumping rope on all my off days this week to prime this furnace to put down all that food. CAN'T WAIT.
 
Thanksgiving in a couple days.

Perfect time for an over-reaching phase in anyone's program and then deload/week off while eating like a mastodon.

I think I am going to do some hill sprints and jumping rope on all my off days this week to prime this furnace to put down all that food. CAN'T WAIT.
Holy crap, it's TG this week? Wow, bad time for me to make a 10 lb pork loin for the week. I should have christmased up my avatar so I would remember these things.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
All dat turkey/ham/eggs etc is gonna feed my machine to make that 350 3x3. It's just a shame it can't be thanks giving for the next 4 weeks.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
I can't emphasize how important it is to overcome those mental hurdles that prevent you from achieving whatever goal you have in mind. Today I overcame every single one and now I am itching to get back into the gym on Wednesday and try to conquer my next goal(s).

It's all about progress, right?
 

X-Frame

Member
I can't emphasize how important it is to overcome those mental hurdles that prevent you from achieving whatever goal you have in mind. Today I overcame every single one and now I am itching to get back into the gym on Wednesday and try to conquer my next goal(s).

It's all about progress, right?

I was beginning to doubt that I'd ever be able to do pull-ups again after 2+ years of physical therapy and rehab because my shoulder after my 2nd surgery was not healing .. and today I actually did weighted pull-ups, 3x5 with 5 pounds around my waist and smashed it.

Very happy about that. Baby steps. I am making sure to not neglect the smaller muscles that are so important for shoulder health along the way.
 
I can't emphasize how important it is to overcome those mental hurdles that prevent you from achieving whatever goal you have in mind. Today I overcame every single one and now I am itching to get back into the gym on Wednesday and try to conquer my next goal(s).

It's all about progress, right?

Baby steps!
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
I was beginning to doubt that I'd ever be able to do pull-ups again after 2+ years of physical therapy and rehab because my shoulder after my 2nd surgery was not healing .. and today I actually did weighted pull-ups, 3x5 with 5 pounds around my waist and smashed it.

Very happy about that. Baby steps. I am making sure to not neglect the smaller muscles that are so important for shoulder health along the way.
Baby steps!
Bingo. Anyone that works out for the "short-term" isn't really doing themselves any favors. I'm not looking a month ahead, I'm looking six months ahead, a year ahead, two years, four years, eight years -- whatever. This is a lifestyle change and not a short-term thing.

I'm not looking to be a bodybuilder or anything, but this shit takes time, patience and dedication. What I couldn't do three months ago, I can do now. What I can't do now, I can do three months from now.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Bingo. Anyone that works out for the "short-term" isn't really doing themselves any favors. I'm not looking a month ahead, I'm looking six months ahead, a year ahead, two years, four years, eight years -- whatever. This is a lifestyle change and not a short-term thing.

I'm not looking to be a bodybuilder or anything, but this shit takes time, patience and dedication. What I couldn't do three months ago, I can do now. What I can't do now, I can do three months from now.



Yep, in a little over a year I've gone from benching 225 5 times to benching 350 for a 1 rep max and 330 3x3 (which means my 1rm is probably more than that).

It's definitely about the long term goals and the commitment to the change. You can go back through these threads and see the ones who want instant results dropping like flies, or any gym across the country from January 1st to Feb 28th.
 

Petrie

Banned
Finally hit 1.5x my bodyweight on squats tonight with 280x5 on my last set, felt fucking awesome.

Also, you guys are absolutely right, a mixed grip will definitely allow me to progress way better on my deadlifts. I can't believe I've been holding myself back so much.

Bench hit 200 tonight for the first time as well on my final set.

You guys have helped me so much, I just can't express my appreciation enough.
 

Linkhero1

Member
Ok I'm sure I've posted here before but I haven't had much luck with my workout. I do not like the shape of my body at all. I want to lose the gut and the side fat and make my chest look like a real man's chest because I have jack shit. So far I'm trying to fix my diet by dropping out fast food, soda, and random junk food and replacing it with home made meals, water and clif bars/granola bars.

This is what I plan on doing daily from now on.

Situps: 3 Sets 8-12 Reps
Pushups: 3 Sets 20 Reps
Cardio: I play at least 1 hour of Dance Central 2 a day jumping all over the place and I make sure that there is only a minor break between each song. I tried running but couldn't get myself out of bed in the morning to continually do it when I had free time so this is my alternative.

Any suggestions on what I can add to my soon to be routine? I think situps and pushups will really help me shape my body better, but what else can I do besides those two?
 
I'm assuming gyms and weights are a no-go? In any case, it'll be better in the long run to try something a little bit more balanced. Do:
Pullups - do every variation in the book. wide grip, close grip, overhand, underhand.
Pushups - when these get easy, put your feet on a chair or ball.
Dips - Find two parallel bars or a couple chairs or even a counter top.
Planks - So much better than situps, IMO. Hold for time. Once you get up to a minute or two start elevating your feet.
Squats - Get proficient in these (300 in 10 minutes) and start working towards one legged variations
Leg Raises - Also good for the midsection. Careful not to swing as it cheats you out of the full benefit of this exercise.
L-sits - If you can't do a full one then don't worry, they're pretty difficult. Find a couple of parallel bars(or any two parallel surfaces) and lift yourself into the starting position of a dip. Then with your knees bent 90 degrees, raise them to where your thighs are parallel to the ground. Hold for time. When you get good with those make them harder by straightening your legs all the way out and holding them at an acute angle to the floor. Eventually you'll be able to hold your legs straight out and parallel to the ground.

Check the OP for more info on the bodyweight exercises. Also, sprint for short periods of time instead of running for an hour. Like cuevas, PhD. always suggests, sprint all out for 20 seconds and rest for 10 seconds. Repeat this for about 5 minutes. You burn a shit ton of calories in that small amount of time.
 

Rei_Toei

Fclvat sbe Pnanqn, ru?
Quick question about food: I'm cutting back on my bread intake. I like carrots. Basically my breakfast now is a solid chunk of carrot (say around 100-150 gram (0.33 pounds I guess?) together with some fruit (apple or pear or banana or something) and nuts (hazelnuts, almonds, no more then a handful). Is such an amount of carrot just as 'good' or 'bad' as other veggies or would it be better to replace it with something else?
 

Linkhero1

Member
What's wrong with situps? I'm trying to lose my stomach fat and thought that was the way to go. I will look into the OP thanks for the info guys. I do have a gym membership, but I never find time to go because of school, work and my social life.
 
What's wrong with situps? I'm trying to lose my stomach fat and thought that was the way to go. I will look into the OP thanks for the info guys. I do have a gym membership, but I never find time to go because of school, work and my social life.

Spot reduction does not exist no matter what you've heard to the contrary. Re-read that sentence fifty times until it becomes seared into your brain for all time. If you were trying to troll a fitness forum, you could use that belief to troll to great effect because it's a super-popular fitness myth.

When you lose fat from your body, you don't get to control where it's lost from. Exercises that target certain muscles target, well, muscles. They don't directly affect the fat in that area. If you want to lose stomach fat, diet and exercise until your overall body fat goes down. Yes it's hard to lose belly fat and the weight might very well leave everywhere else first. Training to do a ton of situps will give your abs a bit more strength and some endurance and that's it.

You can build some muscle without weight training, but basic pushups and situps won't cut it very far. Do stuff like elevate your feet on pushups, or work towards one-armed pushups long term. There are whole workout plans designed around bodyweight exercises, building you up from the basic stuff through different progressively harder variations. I don't know what to recommend as I've never used them.
 

Petrie

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What's wrong with situps? I'm trying to lose my stomach fat and thought that was the way to go.

You can't target specific fat. Fat is lost all over your body, and diet is how most of that is done. Again, read the entire OP.

but I never find time to go because of school, work and my social life.

Excuses. If you can't find 3 hours a week to take care of your body, we can't help you here.
 

Linkhero1

Member
Spot reduction does not exist no matter what you've heard to the contrary. Re-read that sentence fifty times until it becomes seared into your brain for all time. If you were trying to troll a fitness forum, you could use that belief to troll to great effect because it's a super-popular fitness myth.

When you lose fat from your body, you don't get to control where it's lost from. Exercises that target certain muscles target, well, muscles. They don't directly affect the fat in that area. If you want to lose stomach fat, diet and exercise until your overall body fat goes down. Yes it's hard to lose belly fat and the weight might very well leave everywhere else first. Training to do a ton of situps will give your abs a bit more strength and some endurance and that's it.

You can build some muscle without weight training, but basic pushups and situps won't cut it very far. Do stuff like elevate your feet on pushups, or work towards one-armed pushups long term. There are whole workout plans designed around bodyweight exercises, building you up from the basic stuff through different progressively harder variations. I don't know what to recommend as I've never used them.

Thanks for the info.

You can't target specific fat. Fat is lost all over your body, and diet is how most of that is done. Again, read the entire OP.



Excuses. If you can't find 3 hours a week to take care of your body, we can't help you here.
I guess I will have to manage my time then. I'll just start off by changing my diet for now.
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
Is it true that high reps/low weight will tone your muscles?
If so, i'd want to add more high reps low weight to my exercises.
yesterday, I finished with light weight reps using the curl machine for biceps/back. but i have no idea what is considered 'high reps'.

edit: it is also really frikking hard to find protein in today's world, seriously, it's ridiculous. Looks like I am going to have to make a few grilled chicken breasts enough for the next two days, when I get home. because i can't keep rendering all my efforts at the gym fruitless like this :/
 
Is it true that high reps/low weight will tone your muscles?
If so, i'd want to add more high reps low weight to my exercises.
yesterday, I finished with light weight reps using the curl machine for biceps/back. but i have no idea what is considered 'high reps'.

edit: it is also really frikking hard to find protein in today's world, seriously, it's ridiculous. Looks like I am going to have to make a few grilled chicken breasts enough for the next two days, when I get home. because i can't keep rendering all my efforts at the gym fruitless like this :/


Toning isn't really a thing. You can either lose body fat or build your muscles, or neither, or both. There's no magical special kind of "toned flesh" that grows if you do the right rep range. If you do 100 reps of a light weight you're just doing really inefficient cardio. You want firmer, more defined muscles? lose fat and lift heavy for moderate to low reps. You won't turn into a rippling wall of muscle on accident. If you reach a point where you are content with how much muscle you have, just stop pushing yourself harder.
 

Dash27

Member
Now we all need to post some good motivational vids. This is one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdd31Q9PqA


Last night I did 305# on squats 3x5. Felt strong but I effed up the first rep of my last set. I managed to fight through it and get it, then go on to do 5 more solid ones for a total of 6. I feel more confident now that I was able to just purely muscle through that rep. Feels like I have more room for error.
 
I really feel like I need to eat more. There are times where I don't feel consistent with my meals. Is there a way where I can make oatmeal in bulk? Where I just have to warm it up and that's it? I feel like that would make things easier. I also need to make more noodles and just eat that. Same with hard boiled eggs.

Love eating but hate preparing the food. It isn't that it is hard, but more time consuming than anything.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Who needs motivational videos?

I was expecting to see youtube vids of sexy women, not that stuff.

My own brain is my motivational video. I am better, I know I'm better, so I prove it.

;)
 
I really feel like I need to eat more. There are times where I don't feel consistent with my meals. Is there a way where I can make oatmeal in bulk? Where I just have to warm it up and that's it? I feel like that would make things easier. I also need to make more noodles and just eat that. Same with hard boiled eggs.

Love eating but hate preparing the food. It isn't that it is hard, but more time consuming than anything.

I like to make oatmeal shakes( just cooked oatmeal pulverized in a blender) and refrigerate them. Anytime I'm in a hurry, I just pour some in my thermos and warm it up; that way, I can drink it in the car on the way to school.
 

ShaneB

Member
Seeing all these big numbers for any bench press work makes me realize how far behind I am in my chest strength. I know a big factor to that is years of bad computer form and poor wrist support and just destroying any sort of consitancy there. Just doing some bench press reps and I know I feel my wrist failing before anything else, therefore hindering any sort of progress.

I would imagine it's a common problem in this day and age, so would love any advice out there.
 

X-Frame

Member
Seeing all these big numbers for any bench press work makes me realize how far behind I am in my chest strength. I know a big factor to that is years of bad computer form and poor wrist support and just destroying any sort of consitancy there. Just doing some bench press reps and I know I feel my wrist failing before anything else, therefore hindering any sort of progress.

I would imagine it's a common problem in this day and age, so would love any advice out there.

Some quick tips:

1) Do push-ups. Regular, feet-elevated, diamond, uneven (1 hand on medicine ball), both on medicine ball. Push-ups are great for developing full upper body strength.

2) Don't neglect upper back work. Do as much, if not more, horizontal rowing variations. Things like seated cable rows, chest-supported rows, barbell rows, and even vertical pulling like pull-ups. Your body doesn't want to grow too far out of proportion or else it senses injuries will follow.

3) Do Close-Grip Bench Press as well. Everything from chest strength to front delts to especially triceps are involved greatly in different positions of the bench press. Make sure you train CGBP heavy as well so 5-8 reps.


And finally, here is a great article overviewing the Bench Press entirely by Mike Robertson.

Bench Press by Mike Robertson
 
That was weird. Fixed it.
Thanks, good article.

Seeing all these big numbers for any bench press work makes me realize how far behind I am in my chest strength. I know a big factor to that is years of bad computer form and poor wrist support and just destroying any sort of consitancy there. Just doing some bench press reps and I know I feel my wrist failing before anything else, therefore hindering any sort of progress.

I would imagine it's a common problem in this day and age, so would love any advice out there.
One of the first things I was taught when benching was to squeeze my pecs before to activate them. I think this is probably a common problem with people who sit at a desk all day. Same with activating the glutes before you squat or deadlift; those muscles just sit inactive in most people all day.

Here's an article on making sure you're working your pecs:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/benching-with-the-pecs.html
 
I'm worried that I may have to give up bench press for a while. I've dropped it from 79.5kg to 62.5kg, had almost 3 weeks off but my costochondritis still makes it feel like my ribcage is going to burst open at the sternum.

Feels bad, man :(
 
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