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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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ShaneB

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Just had a massive team lunch here at work. Lots of pork, chicken, beef, potatoes and carbs a plenty and veggies.

I can't wait to get to the gym later to lift big. It's the start of holiday over-eating.
 

MjFrancis

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I actually lost weight over that time period, my diet was around 4300 calories a day working out 5 days a week, and I went from 268 to 254 without trying to lose weight. I wasn't a full on beginner when I started, I've lifted off and on for years, but decided to get serious and stick with it. Oh, I have no doubt that the reading was probably off, had the calipers been used on my thighs I'd probably have a much higher reading since a lot of my weight is in my legs. My goal is to be around 220lbs, I'll have before and after pics hopefully in 3-4 months.
Well keep it up abuC, I'm always game for a good transformation. Did you take before pics? Even if you didn't you'll still know how you've changed, and in the end that's all that really matters.
 
One very large meal at night, some people eat fruits and snacks throughout the day, others just fast completely until their next meal.

Oh. Do they at least do protein shakes?


Because of the way my classes were set up this semester plus my knee problems I gained some fat I need to get rid of. Dieting sucks during the holiday season.
 
Probably in shoulders but not too much in neck. Make sure when you raise your chest you are not putting your neck in a compromised position. You get hurt that way. Chest up, eyes forward or down a little. Don't raise your neck with your chest.

The neck soreness is probably because I've gotten in the awful habit of looking up (relatively, i guess) while beginning the pull.

No, it kind of sounds like you may have went too heavy and ended up using more shoulder/upper back than needed (like you ended up trying to shrug it.)

But I'm just spitballing.

The best thing to remember when deadlifting is that you're driving with your heals and bringing the weight straight back into your body to lock out. So in effect you're simply "leaning back" with the weight dragging it up your shins, knees, and thighs, then back down in reverse.. Think of it that way, not that you're bringing the weight up.

I wouldn't think I went to heavy since I've done 335 with mixed grip and I was doing 255 yesterday with double overhand. Regardless I'll stay at the current way just to verify my form isn't becoming poor.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Man, I'm loving DLs more and more.

Today was my first day doing working singles. I warmed up then did 1x315 1x 365 1x405 1x425 then 3 singles of 455.


By the end I was done (nearly blacked out on the last pull) which was funny because I guess people were watching me and some guy came up and asked "how many of those do you have left in you."

I loled.

Feels good man.

I should be over 500 DL in no time!

The neck soreness is probably because I've gotten in the awful habit of looking up (relatively, i guess) while beginning the pull.



I wouldn't think I went to heavy since I've done 335 with mixed grip and I was doing 255 yesterday with double overhand. Regardless I'll stay at the current way just to verify my form isn't becoming poor.



That's the best bet, and try to get someone to watch you or record you on your phone.

Your shoulders shouldn't be sore at all. Your lower traps could be, but not your shoulders.

This tends to make me thing you are pulling with your shoulders and not your legs/hip/back, but I'm definitely not an expert.
 

JB1981

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The neck soreness is probably because I've gotten in the awful habit of looking up (relatively, i guess) while beginning the pull.



I wouldn't think I went to heavy since I've done 335 with mixed grip and I was doing 255 yesterday with double overhand. Regardless I'll stay at the current way just to verify my form isn't becoming poor.

Yes don't do this. Don't want to stick your neck out like that under a heavy load.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
...Bad...ass. Your first warm-up set is probably right around my 1RM. that is monstrous.

My 1st warm up set is 225.

And this isn't that great, especially for my weight, although it IS pretty good for me since I've not trained legs at all in my life (aside from running) until this past summer. In the grand scheme of things though, what I'm lifting ain't shit for my body weight.
 

Natural

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Started my cut bout two weeks ago now, going quite good so far. Only thing I hate is that I'm now 10x more tired during the day! I've tried subsiding my tiredness by having snacks quite regularly during the day with cottage cheese, shakes etc and when all else fails - pro plus. Hopefully my body will get used to the calorie defiency quite soon.. Or it's gonna be a long 3 months. Besides that, had a good shoulders/tri session today, think it might be competing with my back day for favourite workout soon.
 

deadbeef

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Started my cut bout two weeks ago now, going quite good so far. Only thing I hate is that I'm now 10x more tired during the day! I've tried subsiding my tiredness by having snacks quite regularly during the day with cottage cheese, shakes etc and when all else fails - pro plus. Hopefully my body will get used to the calorie defiency quite soon.. Or it's gonna be a long 3 months. Besides that, had a good shoulders/tri session today, think it might be competing with my back day for favourite workout soon.

Have you tried an unhealthy amount of caffeine?
 

deadbeef

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My 1st warm up set is 225.

And this isn't that great, especially for my weight, although it IS pretty good for me since I've not trained legs at all in my life (aside from running) until this past summer. In the grand scheme of things though, what I'm lifting ain't shit for my body weight.
What is your body weight?
 
I didn't update the other day because I couldn't find a good place to record myself and the gym was sparsely populated, but on Tuesday I finally got 120 up for 3 sets of 5 on ohp. Felt good! I was trying to pay attention to my form and I think it was pretty good. I've also been making an effort to eat more, so it could have been as simple as that. I guess we'll find out on Saturday when I go for 125..
 

rage1973

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I think I strained my neck doing some overhead press today.
That seems to happen about once a twice a month. Do you think I should go see a specialist and have it checked out?
 

X-Frame

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I think I strained my neck doing some overhead press today.
That seems to happen about once a twice a month. Do you think I should go see a specialist and have it checked out?

Symptoms?

When it comes to neck/back -- I'd always be more safe than sorry. Maybe you just need a massage?
 

rage1973

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Symptoms?

When it comes to neck/back -- I'd always be more safe than sorry. Maybe you just need a massage?

After the strain, it just feel sore and I lose some range of motion moving my head back and turning side to side. It usually takes one or two days to feel better again. It just seems to happen more frequently than I like and I am wondering if there is something wrong.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I think I strained my neck doing some overhead press today.
That seems to happen about once a twice a month. Do you think I should go see a specialist and have it checked out?

Do you ohp standing? I'm trying to figure out how you strained your neck. I keep coming back to thinking you do it sitting and you used your neck for leverage ( you pressed it into the seat). If that's true, dont do that. And also I it's true I would see a doctor to be sure oh didnt damage anything

Postin from my phone so sorry for shitty post
 

Bealost

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My 1st warm up set is 225.

And this isn't that great, especially for my weight, although it IS pretty good for me since I've not trained legs at all in my life (aside from running) until this past summer. In the grand scheme of things though, what I'm lifting ain't shit for my body weight.

MY bad, I miss read your post, I thought you were warming up with 315, silly brain not working sometimes.
 
A girl I'm friends with is studying to be a sports therapist, she's offering free massages as a way to get lots of practice. Would you guys go for it or pay for a fully qualified masseuse?
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
A girl I'm friends with is studying to be a sports therapist, she's offering free massages as a way to get lots of practice. Would you guys go for it or pay for a fully qualified masseuse?

Depends.

Is your friend hot?
 
Depends.

Is your friend hot?

Extremely. Obviously it sounds like a no brainer but I didn't know if a shit massage could do more harm than good
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ezrarh

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If it's a shitty massage, you can make her feel guilty and she'll make it up to you.

Also, I started alternating heavy deadlift and lower weight high rep deadlifts to work on grip like suggested earlier and it's helped me a lot. I improved my pr by like 25 lbs today.
 
Only shitty massages I've gotten were just too weak pressure. It won't do any harm, but won't do much for you either.

Also where do you live?
 
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Finally deadlifted 315 for 5 today. I tried it last week with 3 plates on and I think it psyched me out because I only managed 4 and had to regrip twice. Today I used a 25 and 2 10's instead of the 45 and had no real problem. I did have to regrip before #5, but there was no break. Anyway, feels good to break through a mental/physical barrier. Pretty excited to keep moving up.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Took the hash-brown idea and mated it with some breaded chicken tonight. mmmhmmm.
 

Cheeto

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A girl I'm friends with is studying to be a sports therapist, she's offering free massages as a way to get lots of practice. Would you guys go for it or pay for a fully qualified masseuse?

Why is this question even asked? lol

Oh yeah, HEY GUYS THIS HOT GIRL WANTS TO GIVE ME FREE MASSAGES GIVE ME YOUR INTERNET POINTS
 

MjFrancis

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Ten Great Books to Expand Your Horizons
by Martin Berkhan

Expand Your Horizons

After years of study and reading about nutrition and training, you reach a point where gathering any more information on these topics will be of very little practical consequence to your results. There is only so much you can learn about insulin, carbs, whey protein and body fat percentages.

Before you reach this point of diminishing returns, you would be well advised to invest your time on topics where you have lots of room to learn and grow.

Being able to eat sensibly, count calories, lift weights and track your progress, is merely scratching the surface. To come full circle and reach "fitness zen" - a state where you feel content, balanced and in control of your body and mind - you must seek to understand yourself on a deeper level. Knowing the workings of your mind is just as important as understanding the workings of your body, in order to get them to cooperate properly.

Looking at things from another perspective, not merely "as is", will also make your reading and study of nutrition, physiology and training, more interesting. Unlock other perspectives of looking at things and you can take it to the next level. A level that lies above and beyond insulin, carbs, whey protein and body fat percentages.

The red thread that runs through most of these books, is that they expand your horizons. They add a little something towards improving our understanding of ourselves: why we think they way we think, why we feel the things we feel, and why we do the things we do. They show you ways of doing things in a more efficient way, whether that means training better, eating better, thinking better or simply handling yourself better.

Not every book on this list comes with a profound message that will change your life. Some books are simply good reads, that I found interesting, informative or insightful - and I think you will too.

I've hand-picked each one of these books and I hope that you will enjoy these books like I have. Here we go.

(This is not a ranked list; the order is completely random.)

  1. The End of Overeating
  2. Starting Strength: 3rd Edition
  3. Beyond Brawn
  4. Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers
  5. Mindless Eating
  6. Never Let Go
  7. How We Decide
  8. The Selfish Gene
  9. Getting Things Done
  10. Advanced Nutrition and Human Metabolism
Bonus: Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human
 
Why is this question even asked? lol

Oh yeah, HEY GUYS THIS HOT GIRL WANTS TO GIVE ME FREE MASSAGES GIVE ME YOUR INTERNET POINTS

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It really wasn't like that. As I said, I was worried if a shit massage could do more harm than good but that's apparently not the case so everybody's happy. She gets to practice, I get a free massage.
 

Munin

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My standing press went to shit this week...went from 3x5x100 to 3x4x100 on Monday and today 2x4x100, 1x4x95. Had to take the weight down on the last set since my form was just breaking apart. Since the standing press has been the fluke of my lifts anyway (bench and squat still hovering around 135-145) I'll just blame it on sleeping and eating not very well this week.

I have finally switched to SS though since 2 weeks ago, so I am hoping it will go up again soon.
 

ShaneB

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Earlier this morning I ate the complete tin of cookies I got at the team lunch that we had yesterday, tasty as hell, but damn...

In total...
700 calories
35g of fat (20g saturated)
200mg Sodium
90g Carbs
35g Sugar
5g Protein

Meh.
 
My standing press went to shit this week...went from 3x5x100 to 3x4x100 on Monday and today 2x4x100, 1x4x95. Had to take the weight down on the last set since my form was just breaking apart. Since the standing press has been the fluke of my lifts anyway (bench and squat still hovering around 135-145) I'll just blame it on sleeping and eating not very well this week.

I have finally switched to SS though since 2 weeks ago, so I am hoping it will go up again soon.

Deload time.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
Earlier this morning I ate the complete tin of cookies I got at the team lunch that we had yesterday, tasty as hell, but damn...

In total...
700 calories
35g of fat (20g saturated)
200mg Sodium
90g Carbs
35g Sugar
5g Protein

Meh.

I'll pig out sometimes since my diet isn't very strict. A box of chicken wings here or a bag of chips there.

Got the 100s on flat DB fly yesterday, since I can't do any pressing yet it's the only chest exercise i'll be doing. I've always stopped at 90s but since I'm not benching first I think I have more in the tank. My back has been getting thicker too with the amount of pendlay rows i've been doing twice a week. After those I elevate my flat bench with a bunch of bumpers and finish off with laying rows which absolutely destroy my back.
 
My standing press went to shit this week...went from 3x5x100 to 3x4x100 on Monday and today 2x4x100, 1x4x95. Had to take the weight down on the last set since my form was just breaking apart. Since the standing press has been the fluke of my lifts anyway (bench and squat still hovering around 135-145) I'll just blame it on sleeping and eating not very well this week.

I have finally switched to SS though since 2 weeks ago, so I am hoping it will go up again soon.

If you're going to deload, do what cuevas said and just for that exercise.

If I recall correctly, OHP is the first move you usually stall and deload on. It's also the first move where adding 5 pounds a jump starts to become less possible. Maybe you should try adding less weight per jump like 2.5 pounds total or even less if you have fractional plates? It's called microloading and might be beneficial in your case, but I'm not sure of your specifics of whether you should or not. http://stronglifts.com/microloading-small-fractional-plates-iron-woody/

Past that, check the basics including form or maybe do some accessory work if anything is holding you back? The muscles involved in the press (according to exrx.net):

Target

Deltoid, Anterior

Synergists

Deltoid, Lateral
Supraspinatus
Triceps Brachii
Trapezius, Middle
Trapezius, Lower
Serratus Anterior, Inferior Digitations

Dynamic Stabilizers

Triceps, Long Head

Stabilizers

Trapezius, Upper
Levator Scapulae
 
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