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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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childplease
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First full day of my water fast. 24 hours no food and strangely no hunger. Will try to keep this up until Tuesday.
Anyone have any tips ? Also is chewing gum ok ?
BTW I am of healthy weight I am only doing this to see if I have the will power to.
Anyone have any tips ? Also is chewing gum ok ?
BTW I am of healthy weight I am only doing this to see if I have the will power to.
catotheyounger
Member
Same here. I was the super skinny dude in college. Now, after 11 months of going to the gym, I put on 35lbs of muscle and am filling out all my shirts and having to flex my self-modesty whenever I go out with friends. I plan to start crossfit in the new year, but I feel a bit intimidated by it all. I pay 10$ a month for my gym membership, and a crossfit monthly membership is 120$/month. Might as well buy a bike and try a cardio training path for that price. Is crossfit THAT worth it? Or should I just keep on the path that I am on. I'm well self-motivated as it is, not too sure how a group dynamic would change my workout.
This is idiotic.
You're only drinking water until tuesday? Doesn't really sound healthy to me...
childplease
Banned
:/ most of the stuff I read online suggest it was. Detoxifies the body. If anyone here has attempted this and had bad results I would gladly go get some tacos right now.
Could never fast. Damn diabetes.
Dude, eat something.
Yeah, eat something.
You'll probably end up gaining weight the week after you're done fasting.
childplease
Banned
Fine I guess I am eating some tacos.
I was under the impression that this was a healthy thing to do. Guess it isn't.
I was under the impression that this was a healthy thing to do. Guess it isn't.
I fast for 16-20 hours daily, but I give myself a 4-8 hour window where I can eat. And I usually have 1 huge meal post workout, then they get smaller as I get closer to fasting again. Also, I don't eat until after I've left the gym.
What you're doing is basically just starving yourself. If you really want to fast, look into the Warrior Diet, it's a 23-1 split, but when you eat your meal it has to be massive.
parrotbeak
Member
Wiped out bodysurfing and hyperextended it. It was no big deal, I don't think, but it's just so much more sensitive now.
It's actually kind of interesting, because normally I feel fine hyperextending and will do so throughout the day to relieve the pain from sitting all day, but right now since I have this hyperextension strain or whatever, it hurts that way. So I just have to stand as neutral as possible.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
How do you guys go about alleviated DOMS. I had a pretty intense P90X session on Wednesday and I'm still sore. Heating pads and hot baths only work temporarily.
parrotbeak
Member
Work out again. As long as it's just DOMS, it goes away for me once I get warmed up.
fredrancour
Member
I don't alleviate it because DOMS is a glorious sensation and should be revelled in to the fullest.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
I have a love-hate relationship with it. It lets me know I had a good workout but if I can barely walk or drive, its a bit of a problem.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It eventually becomes less severe and you learn to deal with it. Also, like Parrot said, if it's just DOMs you're dealing with it will go away when you work out again. In fact, it may be less later after your second workout too.
parrotbeak
Member
Are you still up from the night before or up early?
Gonna start doing the OP routine after a month of SL5x5 and few weeks of just squat/dl/bp/chin-up.
I figured I need to deload on my weights as Rip suggest, but I'm not totally sure how much. I'm 185cm and 79kg. My current worksets are as follows:
Squat 3x5x67,5kg
BP 3x5x52,5kg (had some trouble with with the last set, but managed to pull it through barely)
Deadlift 5x100kg
Chin-up 4x,3x,3x (usually)
With the OP routine, I'm adding the press, power cleans, row (Pendlay row was what I had in mind), and maybe pull-ups.
I did press when I was doing SL5x5 but started having problems with it when I passed 35kg. On Pendlay Row I also was having trouble when I got to 50kg+ but on both cases it was probably due to not eating enough of the right foods and skipping too far ahead too early but I'm not sure.
What I was thinking with the deload, is that I probably need to drop my squat to somewhere around 40-50kg atleast, bench press to somewhere around 30-40kg and deadlift to about 60-70kg. I'm gonna start pressing and power cleaning at 20kg ie. with only the bar.
Any suggestions on the weights I should be using after the deload or do these numbers seem reasonable?
I figured I need to deload on my weights as Rip suggest, but I'm not totally sure how much. I'm 185cm and 79kg. My current worksets are as follows:
Squat 3x5x67,5kg
BP 3x5x52,5kg (had some trouble with with the last set, but managed to pull it through barely)
Deadlift 5x100kg
Chin-up 4x,3x,3x (usually)
With the OP routine, I'm adding the press, power cleans, row (Pendlay row was what I had in mind), and maybe pull-ups.
I did press when I was doing SL5x5 but started having problems with it when I passed 35kg. On Pendlay Row I also was having trouble when I got to 50kg+ but on both cases it was probably due to not eating enough of the right foods and skipping too far ahead too early but I'm not sure.
What I was thinking with the deload, is that I probably need to drop my squat to somewhere around 40-50kg atleast, bench press to somewhere around 30-40kg and deadlift to about 60-70kg. I'm gonna start pressing and power cleaning at 20kg ie. with only the bar.
Any suggestions on the weights I should be using after the deload or do these numbers seem reasonable?
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Stop. Why are you doing this? All of these programs are designed to be long term commitments not flavor of the month. Stick to something.
Yes, I know they are long term commitments and I am going to be committed to them for a long time. The reason I quit SL5x5 was that I felt I needed to cut first and couldn't recover enough between workouts because of the 5 sets. Around then I started LeanGains and used Andy Morgans Cut-method with it. He recommended doing the Big 3 with RPT style and thats what I've been doing.
But recently I've thought about going in body recomposition direction and upped slightly my calorie intake. I just thought that the OP routine would be "more complete" than just training the Big 3 but I'm no expert. I should've just startes with SS originally but unfortunaly I found SL first.
But suggestions are allways welcome
But he's gotta confuse the muscles...and shock the monkey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo9riZYUpTw
Like most people who post in here at first, it's good to know what your goals are. I'm guessing increased strength and less body fat. The Big 3 is really the Big 5 (Squat, press, bench press, power clean, and deadlift) Other than that, stick to the program and don't do anything drastic. Good luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo9riZYUpTw
Like most people who post in here at first, it's good to know what your goals are. I'm guessing increased strength and less body fat. The Big 3 is really the Big 5 (Squat, press, bench press, power clean, and deadlift) Other than that, stick to the program and don't do anything drastic. Good luck.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Yes, I know they are long term commitments and I am going to be committed to them for a long time. The reason I quit SL5x5 was that I felt I needed to cut first and couldn't recover enough between workouts because of the 5 sets. Around then I started LeanGains and used Andy Morgans Cut-method with it. He recommended doing the Big 3 with RPT style and thats what I've been doing.
But recently I've thought about going in body recomposition direction and upped slightly my calorie intake. I just thought that the OP routine would be "more complete" than just training the Big 3 but I'm no expert. I should've just startes with SS originally but unfortunaly I found SL first.
But suggestions are allways welcome
Again you are trying too much stuff. A simple clean diet and strong lifts should be enough to make you cut fat and get stronger. By the way you change workouts and diets it makes you seem like you want immediate results and aren't getting them, you are setting yourself up to fail every time.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Night before, fucking skyrim, lol.
I think I'm being fairly reasonable in my expectations in that I don't set them too far. I know this is a long term thing. And I'm not trying to shock my muscles or any of that shit. I've also gotten some results and I'm happy that I can see some change already. It's not about wanting immediate results or not getting results. I too think its stupid to be fiddling around with all these programs..
But, like I said I found SL5x5 first which is basically the same as SS but more sets. I started doing the Big 3 because I was eating less and I wanted to be able to recover in time.
But now I know how much I'm eating (BMR +20%/-20%) as LeanGains suggests. I'm just trying to figure out the best program in which to commit myself and in my knowledge SS (or the OP routine) is superior to SL5x5.
Lasthope106
Member
I think I overdid it yesterday. I was out of the gym for a month, and went back for squats and deadlifts on the same day. My entire body from the chest down is done for the next two days.
Well, I'm hoping you went easy on the poundage and the volume.
And despire seems to have his head on straight. He'll be okay
cuevas. PhD.
Member
You are worrying too much about stuff you don't need to worry about. Beginners are going to make progress on any program given that they eat right. That's all you have to worry about, eating right. You don't have to worry about getting 212g of protein and 196 g of carbs on workout days and replacing 50g of carbs with 50g of fat on off days to replace the macronutrient.
Your best friends for the next year will be protein and deloading, enjoy yourself.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Maybe this is the wrong thread to ask because it's more of a medical question but I've been diagnosed with hypogonadism which basically means I don't produce enough testosterone. Not just low for my age but low for any age male. Would lifting basically mean nothing for me because I can't build muscle or get stronger? I feel like I'm getting stronger but it takes a lot of time and work to gain even small changes. Sucks because it would be one thing if I was lazy but it's like my body is telling me work as hard as you want buddy I ain't changing.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
I'm no doctor but you probably just can't get as big as some guys naturally can. That doesn't mean you can't get strong as fuck, yes it will take longer but if you want to get stronger you can. I don't want to offend you but there are (natural) women out there who lift way more than most guys but don't look like it because they are just not built to get huge.
I'm surprised that your doctor isn't treating this with TRT.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Got a compliment on my press weight today by a regular. He even recognized it as a strict press too. Feels good man.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
It's okay, MIDNIGHT. At least you won't lose your hair.
So me and my younger brothers were bored today and came up with a ranking system. They made the ranks, I came up with the numbers and then we did a fitness test
# Rank Req
1 Baby Start
2 Newb 10 pushups
3 Wimp 15 pushups/3 pullups
4 Adolescent 20 pushups/5 pullups
5 Tough Wimp 30 pushups/8 pullups/ 45s plank
6 Teenager 40 pushups/10 pullups/45s plank
7 Omega 50 pushups/10 pullups/60s plank
8 Weak Hero 75 pushups/13 pullups/60s plank
9 Hero 100 pushups/15 pullups/90s plank
10 Omega Hero 200 pushups/25 pullups/180s plank/5 1h pushups/3 1h pullups
The one handed stuff needs to be done on each arm. My brothers (11 and 8) are both Newbs and I am starting out at Omega. The pushups is what killed me for sure lol. What do you guys think of the numbers? I realize it rises very steeply towards the end haha but I feel like Omega Hero is not a rank to be taken lightly!
Also, you guys should try it! I bet most of you are in the rank 7-9 area, I'd be surprised if there's anyone at 10.
PS - Do it in the order listed, i.e. pushups --> pullups --> plank --> 1h pushups --> 1h pullups. I am thinking about adding pistol squats just to make it a full body workout. Maybe around rank 7 or 8, since pistol squats are pretty advanced imo?
# Rank Req
1 Baby Start
2 Newb 10 pushups
3 Wimp 15 pushups/3 pullups
4 Adolescent 20 pushups/5 pullups
5 Tough Wimp 30 pushups/8 pullups/ 45s plank
6 Teenager 40 pushups/10 pullups/45s plank
7 Omega 50 pushups/10 pullups/60s plank
8 Weak Hero 75 pushups/13 pullups/60s plank
9 Hero 100 pushups/15 pullups/90s plank
10 Omega Hero 200 pushups/25 pullups/180s plank/5 1h pushups/3 1h pullups
The one handed stuff needs to be done on each arm. My brothers (11 and 8) are both Newbs and I am starting out at Omega. The pushups is what killed me for sure lol. What do you guys think of the numbers? I realize it rises very steeply towards the end haha but I feel like Omega Hero is not a rank to be taken lightly!
Also, you guys should try it! I bet most of you are in the rank 7-9 area, I'd be surprised if there's anyone at 10.
PS - Do it in the order listed, i.e. pushups --> pullups --> plank --> 1h pushups --> 1h pullups. I am thinking about adding pistol squats just to make it a full body workout. Maybe around rank 7 or 8, since pistol squats are pretty advanced imo?
entremet
Member
Yesterday was deadlift day and one of the trainers, looking to get a client, came up to me and told me that I will kill my back if I continue to do deadlifts. LOL. He said my form was perfect--not that it means much coming from him. I learned most my lifts from SS.
I just find it funny that normal deadlifts are considered terrible for your back, when you have olympic and powerlifters doings them for years, at a much greater frequency, and they don't have an epidemic of back injuries, no more so than any other athlete.
I just find it funny that normal deadlifts are considered terrible for your back, when you have olympic and powerlifters doings them for years, at a much greater frequency, and they don't have an epidemic of back injuries, no more so than any other athlete.
Lasthope106
Member
So me and my younger brothers were bored today and came up with a ranking system. They made the ranks, I came up with the numbers and then we did a fitness test
# Rank Req
1 Baby Start
2 Newb 10 pushups
3 Wimp 15 pushups/3 pullups
4 Adolescent 20 pushups/5 pullups
5 Tough Wimp 30 pushups/8 pullups/ 45s plank
6 Teenager 40 pushups/10 pullups/45s plank
7 Omega 50 pushups/10 pullups/60s plank
8 Weak Hero 75 pushups/13 pullups/60s plank
9 Hero 100 pushups/15 pullups/90s plank
10 Omega Hero 200 pushups/25 pullups/180s plank/5 1h pushups/3 1h pullups
The one handed stuff needs to be done on each arm. My brothers (11 and 8) are both Newbs and I am starting out at Omega. The pushups is what killed me for sure lol. What do you guys think of the numbers? I realize it rises very steeply towards the end haha but I feel like Omega Hero is not a rank to be taken lightly!
Also, you guys should try it! I bet most of you are in the rank 7-9 area, I'd be surprised if there's anyone at 10.
PS - Do it in the order listed, i.e. pushups --> pullups --> plank --> 1h pushups --> 1h pullups. I am thinking about adding pistol squats just to make it a full body workout. Maybe around rank 7 or 8, since pistol squats are pretty advanced imo?
You are seriously overestimating how fit people are. After reading countless magazines articles and books doing 50 push-ups means you are very fit. Of course that is doing them in good form.
That is the number one excuse at my gym for people not doing squats or deadlifts. At the time I'm there, you can really tell who is into fitness and who is there to pass the time.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Well he wants to me to see an endocrinologist first to figure out what is causing it exactly and ultimately it's up to me whether I want to do it or not. It's not really a harmless decision because it could lead me to be sterile or something. But then again, if it's this bad at my young age then who knows what I will be as I get older. No easy answers here.
Haha well baldness is in my family so I'm probably holding it off due to the lack of testosterone, yet another thing to think about before pursuing treatment. Would I rather be a scrawny looking guy with very little T and hair or a bald guy with a kick-ass body.
The one thing I was kind of nervous about putting such high numbers for is pullups. I realize pullups are incredibly tough to achieve, especially for people with higher body weight...for me, the 175lb manchild, they're relatively easy. At one point I could do 25-30 in a row, good form. Now I'm barely able to do 15, not sure what happened lol.
PS - Do body weight routines cut you up? I imagine they would - it's a circuit exercise which keeps your heart rate up, and it's really high reps most of the time. Yes or no?
This guy will make you feel like a wimp at pull ups:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOCVo_gLoCo
Too bad he failed so far hard at fear factor.
Dude is totally over the top.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
He's got an outie. GROSS.
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