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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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Wrist strength will increase over time but part of it could be bad form. You aren't suppose to have your wrists 'curl back' as you are lifting, if that makes any sense.
Yeah that makes sense I don't think so but I'll be extra conscious of it.

Was conscious of making sure my grip was the right length last time but there was about 400 bro's in my tiny gym, making it kinda hard to be focused.
 

Mr.City

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Well, I've never failed... but when I get to a certain weight (like 245-265 depending on how I feel that day) my knees have a tendency to want to buckle inward on the way up once I get to parallel. Usually I force them out with concentration but they do travel on some reps. So I've been really slow to really push myself to higher weights because I don't feel like I have the lift under control like I do in other lifts.



What? Why?

It sounds like you can squat more, but this phobia is holding you back.
 

rage1973

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I read the OP, hallelujah - praise be to the OP forever and ever!
Tremble, O earth, at the presence of the OP!
May the enemies of the OP be vanquished for their wickedness and blasphemy against the name of the OP... AMEN!

So I've been doing the Overhead Press in addition to the other fun stuff our Lord and Savior, the OP has told me.

But my wrists have been getting real tight afterward and they kinda hurt. Will my dainty wrists strengthen over time or am I doing something wrong?

Bless you all - vessels of the great OP!

Make sure the weight is resting on your upper chest rather than on your wrist.
 
One you sent me. I'll do one from the sacred OP when I'm done cutting.

Do one of them for at least 6 months :p

Anyone have good experience with hip flexor stretches? I've tried the 90/90 stretch and the kneeling lunge stretch, whatever its called. Neither are very effective, I'm been very tight for a while now, not sure how to get rid of it.

Tightness is right here:

hip-pain-hip-flexor.jpg
 

Cheeto

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It sounds like you can squat more, but this phobia is holding you back.

Probably but not much more... its still very difficult for me to lift what I can. I'm going to switch in some front squats and do some more accessory work for a couple weeks and see how that goes.
 
Just in case anybody is interested, the new Fitocracy challenge for the gaf group is up. Cardio focus for this one so not sure many here will enter.
 

goldenpp72

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Anyone have any input on my last post? (post 10765), I don't like to bump responses, but I think I might be misunderstanding my diet a bit and maybe am not a 'hard gainer', but having never gained a lot of mass in this area I still feel I don't have the idea of what to expect yet. thanks again :)
 

kylej

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My body is oh so beat up. I feel like I am coming down with something. I just want to finish out this week strong then take it easy next week. Lift lighter and then go back to my normal routine the following week.

I'm skipping back day today to give my tendons a rest. Haven't missed a gym session in 10 weeks or so, so the extra recovery should be good.

Think I'm going to do some weird hybrid back/shoulder thing on Saturday to make up for it.

Listen to your body yo.
 
Do one of them for at least 6 months :p

Anyone have good experience with hip flexor stretches? I've tried the 90/90 stretch and the kneeling lunge stretch, whatever its called. Neither are very effective, I'm been very tight for a while now, not sure how to get rid of it.

Tightness is right here:

hip-pain-hip-flexor.jpg

I have APT, so I've been using the stretches here. The lunge stretch works well, but also the standing quad stretch works if you push your hip forward while stretching.
 
Do one of them for at least 6 months :p

Anyone have good experience with hip flexor stretches? I've tried the 90/90 stretch and the kneeling lunge stretch, whatever its called. Neither are very effective, I'm been very tight for a while now, not sure how to get rid of it.

Tightness is right here:

hip-pain-hip-flexor.jpg
That's the psoas, huh? I get that a lot. Have you tried swinging your leg back and forth and side to side? Aggressive static stretching will often make it tighter.
 

Revoh

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Figure out how many calories you've been eating to maintain whatever your current weight is. That's maintenance.

Don't think too hard about the diet. Eat as many grams of protein as your desired bodyweight (you want to be 200 pounds of rippling muscle, eat at least 200 grams of protein a day.) The fat requirements will probably be met while eating the protein, assuming the skin stays on the chicken and the milk is uncut. Eat some good carbs every day, like sweet potatoes, and don't eat very many bad carbs like white bread, sugar, candy, or anything else that's just garbage.

Getting to that protein number and not eating garbage will clear up the diet for just about anyone.

This. Don't worry too much about specifics, just eat clean, and make sure you get enough protein. The rest should take care of itself. You're a beginner, your body wants to grow.

So assuming my maintenance calories are 2000 per day, I need to eat +500 on top of that every day to gain 3500 calories at the end of the week that hopefully turns to a pound of muscle. Am I right?

Protein intake is going to be high. How should I split the remaining calories between fat and carbs? Does it matter or am I over thinking this too much?
 

kylej

Banned
So assuming my maintenance calories are 2000 per day, I need to eat +500 on top of that every day to gain 3500 calories at the end of the week that hopefully turns to a pound of muscle. Am I right?

Protein intake is going to be high. How should I split the remaining calories between fat and carbs? Does it matter or am I over thinking this too much?

You're overthinking shit, but your calorie count is pretty sound. Just be aware that there's no way in hell your body will put on a lb of muscle every week. 4lb a month = 48lbs of lean muscle in a year. If you're crushing it in the gym and eating right you'll gain maybe 10-15lbs of muscle your first year of lifting. That's still a shitload though.
 

Lamel

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So since in starting strength you do Squats every workout, how do you guys deal with doing squats and deadlifts on the same day? As the weight is getting higher, the soreness from the previous workout's squats already effects my deadlift, and it becomes super hard to also squat on the same day. Any tips?
 
So since in starting strength you do Squats every workout, how do you guys deal with doing squats and deadlifts on the same day? As the weight is getting higher, the soreness from the previous workout's squats already effects my deadlift, and it becomes super hard to also squat on the same day. Any tips?

Once the weight got so heavy they adversely affected each other, I started doing deads every other week, alternating them with rows or power cleans.

True, you're not deadlifting too much, but the squat is the focus of SS.
 

Khal_B

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I went on Amazon intending to purchase some Protein powder since my stocks will most likely be depleted in about 2 months only to find out that the price of the stuff has doubled all over the place.

Since I most likely won't be able to afford it until prices are reduced, are there any alternatives that I can use in place? I'm thinking a chicken breast with an egg and a glass of milk. I dunno, I'm really at a loss here.
 

Lamel

Banned
Once the weight got so heavy they adversely affected each other, I started doing deads every other week, alternating them with rows or power cleans.

True, you're not deadlifting too much, but the squat is the focus of SS.

I will try to go one more week and see what happens. I mean I did just get out from 3 weeks of no SS (I was at home with only 90 lbs). But returning back, I somehow did not lose any strength.

IF the squats and deadlifts continue to detriment each other, I will do deads every other week.
 

Darklord

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I've been trying to get fit since late November. Nothing full on, no P90X or anything but I started at 122.5kg. Today I weighed myself and I'm 113.6kg. That's 270 down to 249 for you Americans. :)

It's the lightest I've been in a long time. 10 years or more. I couldn't really notice it but looking at some old pics I realized I look massive in those now when before they looked normal so I guess that means something, I guess.
 
ok guys this is my weekly fitness workout.

Mon: Shoulders

Tue: Rest

Wed: Back/Biceps

Thur: Legs

Friday: Rest

Saturday: RPM(This is an intense cardio workout on bikes aimed at endurance and lower body strength)

Sunday: Chest/Triceps

Now the thing is I had to work around other factors like my erratic job hours and my hobbies.

My hobbies include:

Tennis on Monday,

Badminton on Tuesday and

Football on Sunday.

A question I have is, how does my sport activities affect my resting from weight training?
 

Szu

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ok guys this is my weekly fitness workout.

Mon: Shoulders

Tue: Rest

Wed: Back/Biceps

Thur: Legs

Friday: Rest

Saturday: RPM(This is an intense cardio workout on bikes aimed at endurance and lower body strength)

Sunday: Chest/Triceps

Now the thing is I had to work around other factors like my erratic job hours and my hobbies.

My hobbies include:

Tennis on Monday,

Badminton on Tuesday and

Football on Sunday.

A question I have is, how does my sport activities affect my resting from weight training?

Just from looking at your schedule without any knowledge of your actual routines.

Tennis will work out your forearms and shoulders. It will also affect your joints, mainly the elbow. I don't know the intensity of your tennis games, but your shoulders might get really sore. If it's just some light fun, then I wouldn't worry about it.

Badminton on Tuesday shouldn't be an issue. It's less intense than tennis (depending o how you play), so your shoulder will probably be fine.

As for football on Sunday, it depends. I don't know how intense you will play (touch or tackle), but your legs and lower body will be getting most of the action from the football games. That Sat RPM might be detrimental to your performance on the field depending on the position that you play.
 

Enco

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I went on Amazon intending to purchase some Protein powder since my stocks will most likely be depleted in about 2 months only to find out that the price of the stuff has doubled all over the place.

Since I most likely won't be able to afford it until prices are reduced, are there any alternatives that I can use in place? I'm thinking a chicken breast with an egg and a glass of milk. I dunno, I'm really at a loss here.

You want more stock with 2 months left?

Seems lik a while to me.

Chicken/beef/cheese/milk are all great alternatives.
 
So since in starting strength you do Squats every workout, how do you guys deal with doing squats and deadlifts on the same day? As the weight is getting higher, the soreness from the previous workout's squats already effects my deadlift, and it becomes super hard to also squat on the same day. Any tips?

If you're doing SS you shouldn't really be having problems with recovery with the weights you are doing. How much weight did you start with? Maybe try eating a bit more on your workout days.
 

Petrie

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I went on Amazon intending to purchase some Protein powder since my stocks will most likely be depleted in about 2 months only to find out that the price of the stuff has doubled all over the place.

Since I most likely won't be able to afford it until prices are reduced, are there any alternatives that I can use in place? I'm thinking a chicken breast with an egg and a glass of milk. I dunno, I'm really at a loss here.

I'm told prices won't be coming down too much, but this stuff is pretty damn affordable with subscribe and save:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GC7DKC/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 

gdt

Member
Took a rest day yesterday, got rid of all the soreness (which was mostly gone by wednesday in the first place). Was at the gym for about 1:15, feel awesome.
 

Khal_B

Member
You want more stock with 2 months left?

Seems lik a while to me.

I don't live in the States and locally the price of supplements here is about 1.5x to 2x higher than US prices. So when I order Supps, I do so in bulk and relative of a friend ships it down to me, but the process takes a while, hence why 2 months is not that long in my case.

Chicken/beef/cheese/milk are all great alternatives.

Yeah, I'll have to go this route, but I'd just like to know how much of that would be equivalent to 3 scoops of protein.
 

Petrie

Banned
Was thinking about buying this since ON prices jumped. How does this taste? 30$ for 5lb sounds like a steal.

It's pretty damn good. I honestly don't taste much difference between it and the ON brand. The chocolate is a bit too rich for my taste, so I use one scoop of vanilla and one chocolate, but that's just more me not being a big fan of chocolate in general.
 
I don't live in the States and locally the price of supplements here is about 1.5x to 2x higher than US prices. So when I order Supps, I do so in bulk and relative of a friend ships it down to me, but the process takes a while, hence why 2 months is not that long in my case.



Yeah, I'll have to go this route, but I'd just like to know how much of that would be equivalent to 3 scoops of protein.
75 grams of protein is roughly 2,5 litres of milk or 0,65 gallon (36 grams per litre). Of course you also get a whole extra bunch of carbs and fats and calories, depending on what kind of milk you drink, so keep that in mind.

Chicken has usually 18-22 grams of protein per 100 gram, soooo thats quite a lot of chicken every day.
 

Kwhit10

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I'm told prices won't be coming down too much, but this stuff is pretty damn affordable with subscribe and save:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GC7DKC/?tag=neogaf0e-20


I also buy the Twinlab 5lb chocolate.

I bought it from vitamin shoppe online with free shipping, they also periodically send me 20% off, so whenever I get that e-mail from them I order another Twinlab product. I actually got the 20% off e-mail from them this morning and got the powder for $27 with free shipping.

discount only works on my account I think.
but here is the link

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=TL-2298
 

TheFatOne

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It's pretty damn good. I honestly don't taste much difference between it and the ON brand. The chocolate is a bit too rich for my taste, so I use one scoop of vanilla and one chocolate, but that's just more me not being a big fan of chocolate in general.

Thanks. I think I'm going to do the subscribe and save with amazon. Not a bad deal for me since I have amazon prime as well.
 

Cheeto

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I don't live in the States and locally the price of supplements here is about 1.5x to 2x higher than US prices. So when I order Supps, I do so in bulk and relative of a friend ships it down to me, but the process takes a while, hence why 2 months is not that long in my case.



Yeah, I'll have to go this route, but I'd just like to know how much of that would be equivalent to 3 scoops of protein.

Drink Poundstone shakes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB7Ed_DPXNM&feature=player_embedded#t=4m19s
 

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Not sure if this goes in the weight loss thread or this one...so let's try here first.

Intermittent fasting. I know what it is. I've done it. I know it's value.

What I don't know is how much working out I can reasonably do while in a fasted state. I've read all over the place that working out with in a fasted state is the absolute best way to roast off the bodyfat. Great.

...but how much working out can I really do while in a fasted state?

I've got tennis lessons later today which is an hour of decent cardio, and then I'll be doing my normal bodyweight routine later which would be about 20 minutes total of push-ups, pull-ups, squats, dive-bombers and core work.

Do I have a prayer in the world of being able to do all of this while fasted? All of these activities are going to be taking place after roughly 24 hours of fasting.

Am I doomed or is this going to rule?

Edit: Eff it, not going to fast and do all that. Likely going to lose too much muscle in the process to make the fat loss worth it.
 

Enco

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I don't live in the States and locally the price of supplements here is about 1.5x to 2x higher than US prices. So when I order Supps, I do so in bulk and relative of a friend ships it down to me, but the process takes a while, hence why 2 months is not that long in my case.



Yeah, I'll have to go this route, but I'd just like to know how much of that would be equivalent to 3 scoops of protein.
Ahh makes sense.

Try out MyProtein.

The mocha flavour is killer.
 

jman2050

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I have a question about injury management.

I'm on SS and on Wednesday tweaked my right neck/shoulder area when completing my sets for the overhead press. The culprit could be bad form or tight lats or just chance, but that's neither here nor there. Point is, while I completed my workout for the day I ended up getting significant pain in that area during that night and heading into the next day. Difficulty sleeping, compromised range-of-motion on my neck, etc.

Fortunately, it seems to only be minor issue, as after some stretching and flexibility exercise the pain has improved considerably in just the one day heading into today, but it hasn't disappeared, just lessened. It seems I'll be good as new before too long, but the issue I'm mulling over is whether to continue my workout plan today. I had only missed days due to sickness up to this point. I'm willing to perform my workout through some pain/discomfort if it didn't lead to any issues, but at the same time I don't want to aggravate that area while there's still a level of pain involved and potentially make things worse.

Am I overthinking this? Is it better to be cautious in this situation? Is it just a 'feel' thing where I simply need to act based on how I know my own body? I dunno, I guess it might seem like common sense to some people but I'm having trouble deciding how to go about this.
 

Enco

Member
I have a question about injury management.

I'm on SS and on Wednesday tweaked my right neck/shoulder area when completing my sets for the overhead press. The culprit could be bad form or tight lats or just chance, but that's neither here nor there. Point is, while I completed my workout for the day I ended up getting significant pain in that area during that night and heading into the next day. Difficulty sleeping, compromised range-of-motion on my neck, etc.

Fortunately, it seems to only be minor issue, as after some stretching and flexibility exercise the pain has improved considerably in just the one day heading into today, but it hasn't disappeared, just lessened. It seems I'll be good as new before too long, but the issue I'm mulling over is whether to continue my workout plan today. I had only missed days due to sickness up to this point. I'm willing to perform my workout through some pain/discomfort if it didn't lead to any issues, but at the same time I don't want to aggravate that area while there's still a level of pain involved and potentially make things worse.

Am I overthinking this? Is it better to be cautious in this situation? Is it just a 'feel' thing where I simply need to act based on how I know my own body? I dunno, I guess it might seem like common sense to some people but I'm having trouble deciding how to go about this.
Depends on how bad it is right now.

Personally I would be cautious. Missing a day of lifting is nowhere near as bad as making an injury worse.
 

Revoh

Member
You're overthinking shit, but your calorie count is pretty sound. Just be aware that there's no way in hell your body will put on a lb of muscle every week. 4lb a month = 48lbs of lean muscle in a year. If you're crushing it in the gym and eating right you'll gain maybe 10-15lbs of muscle your first year of lifting. That's still a shitload though.

OK so is 2 lbs per month more reasonable? I would have to change my calories to end my week with 0.250 lbs of possible muscle gain.
 
OK so is 2 lbs per month more reasonable? I would have to change my calories to end my week with 0.250 lbs of possible muscle gain.
I think the best you can aim for is 70% of your weight gain to be muscles, and 30% to be fat. There is no good way to avoid getting a bit of fat if you want to gain muscles. Just eat a lot, pick up a lot of heavy things and put them down again and stop micromanaging your diet.
 
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