haha .. crossfit has gotten so weird
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haha .. crossfit has gotten so weird
They suck if you like to have good performance in the gym. My opinion of course. Great for results though if you are looking to lose fat. I would look into the targeted ketogenic diet maybe.
Or just do Ultimate Diet 2.0 and be done with it in 8 weeks.
entremet
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I've been reading a lot of this blog
http://waroninsulin.com/
He's not a strength athlete, though. He's a marathon swimmer who subsists on an ketogenic diet. He does take in 4500 calories per day, given his higher activity level.
http://www.fitocracy.com/register/?invite_code=I26J9
couple hundred+ invites left on this code I believe
TheKaeptain
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That guy in the first video looked like he was about to blow a knee...
I was only speaking from experience not authority.
entremet
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There's a guy in the background who looked worse. Near the end of the video.
I wasn't refuting you.
I'm just wondering if keto diets are beneficial for strength athletes. Endurance athletes have different aims in mind.
I tried it years ago, when I first started getting serious about healthy eating and I do remember the adaptation process was rough. I didn't exercise as much as I did now, so I could imagine performance being hindered.
Live Free or Die
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Hello fitness GAF, I have a couple questions. I wanna start working out to get into better shape and to lose some weight. I have a weight set and bench. I'm fairly new to lifting weights so what would be a good "beginner" workout routine to get me started? Also when is it a good time to workout? Mornings, afternoon, evenings or doesn't it matter?
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
TheKaeptain
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Read the OP.
HarryHengst
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Never stop working out. Thats the best time to workout.
HarryHengst
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Haha, oh god this is horrible. How are the people who instructed those people even allowed to train?
I've read the OP and am working out a, er, work-out.
Problem is I wanna do everything. Lose a bit of weight (I'd say about 7/8kg) and get a lot stronger (I'm quite a big chap anyway). I need a bit of focus. At the moment I'm doing the following:
Cardio for circa 45 minutes (but I get bored of just running so will swap between treadmill, x-trainer, bike etc.)
Then weights for an hour+ which is generally: chest/back/legs, shoulders/arms on alternate days.
Probably go to the gym between 5/6 times a week.
Huh. Not really very well planned IMO so I'll post my new thoughts in here later on for some feedback if you folk wouldn't mind.
Problem is I wanna do everything. Lose a bit of weight (I'd say about 7/8kg) and get a lot stronger (I'm quite a big chap anyway). I need a bit of focus. At the moment I'm doing the following:
Cardio for circa 45 minutes (but I get bored of just running so will swap between treadmill, x-trainer, bike etc.)
Then weights for an hour+ which is generally: chest/back/legs, shoulders/arms on alternate days.
Probably go to the gym between 5/6 times a week.
Huh. Not really very well planned IMO so I'll post my new thoughts in here later on for some feedback if you folk wouldn't mind.
HarryHengst
Member
Either do weights before cardio, or cardio on a day where you dont do weights.
also, post what exactly you do for weight lifting, as 'chest/back/arms' isnt really helpful for others to give advice.
also, post what exactly you do for weight lifting, as 'chest/back/arms' isnt really helpful for others to give advice.
DyslexicAlucard
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Hey guys, I'm just looking to start getting into shape and lose a decent amount of weight.
Here's my chart:
Age: 25
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 215lbs
Goal: 180lbs~
Current Training Schedule: Nothing yet, but I'm available between and after classes and some evenings when I don't work.
Current Training Equipment Available: When between and after classes, I have the school gym. When at home, I have a weight-lifting bench at home and a sportsplex (literally) next door with a pool and skating rink.
Comments: I'm looking for help in a few areas:
--My goal is to lose weight and, as a secondary goal, increase strength--though the latter is not a big deal.
--Dietary tips/plans are very welcome. Keep in mind, though, I'm a university student, so money may be a bit of an issue. If anything, offer what you would ideally, and then possibly a cheap alternative.
--Walking/running laps at the sportsplex next door isn't an option for now, as it's -30c with snow.
--I can swim, but it's been a long time and I was never a dolphin or anything. I am always willing to learn and I do like swimming recreationally quite a bit, but should I only go when it's a specified time for people swimming laps, or should I just go when the general public is there? I'm a tad worried of going when the hardcore swimmers are doing laps and looking like a buffoon.
--I want to have a program that can start easily enough, but ramps up. Motivation is an issue as well, so any tips on this would be much appreciated.
--Looking for tips on the best time and frequency for a routine would also be very helpful. Should I do it in between classes--will this wear me out for later classes?--or after, or in the evening? Or should I try to wake up super-early to do it? See below for a possible issue there, though...
--My sleeping schedule is erratic as hell, and I don't really know how to straighten it out w/o the use of drugs. Tips are very welcome here, as this is a problem I've had since I was 18ish.
If I think of anything else, I'll post it later. Thanks again, guys and gals, for your help! If I find I'm enjoying the routine and it's working, I'll post some before and after pics at a (likely much) later date.
Here's my chart:
Age: 25
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 215lbs
Goal: 180lbs~
Current Training Schedule: Nothing yet, but I'm available between and after classes and some evenings when I don't work.
Current Training Equipment Available: When between and after classes, I have the school gym. When at home, I have a weight-lifting bench at home and a sportsplex (literally) next door with a pool and skating rink.
Comments: I'm looking for help in a few areas:
--My goal is to lose weight and, as a secondary goal, increase strength--though the latter is not a big deal.
--Dietary tips/plans are very welcome. Keep in mind, though, I'm a university student, so money may be a bit of an issue. If anything, offer what you would ideally, and then possibly a cheap alternative.
--Walking/running laps at the sportsplex next door isn't an option for now, as it's -30c with snow.
--I can swim, but it's been a long time and I was never a dolphin or anything. I am always willing to learn and I do like swimming recreationally quite a bit, but should I only go when it's a specified time for people swimming laps, or should I just go when the general public is there? I'm a tad worried of going when the hardcore swimmers are doing laps and looking like a buffoon.
--I want to have a program that can start easily enough, but ramps up. Motivation is an issue as well, so any tips on this would be much appreciated.
--Looking for tips on the best time and frequency for a routine would also be very helpful. Should I do it in between classes--will this wear me out for later classes?--or after, or in the evening? Or should I try to wake up super-early to do it? See below for a possible issue there, though...
--My sleeping schedule is erratic as hell, and I don't really know how to straighten it out w/o the use of drugs. Tips are very welcome here, as this is a problem I've had since I was 18ish.
If I think of anything else, I'll post it later. Thanks again, guys and gals, for your help! If I find I'm enjoying the routine and it's working, I'll post some before and after pics at a (likely much) later date.
If you want to drop 15lbs and get "a lot" stronger I would just lift. Drop the cardio. Your numerical bodyweight might not drop 15lbs but you'll lose the fat.
I just bought a regular, hard rubber bouncing ball in a toystore just to try out trigger point massaging. It feels sooo good! My hamstrings, quads, glutes, legs and shoulders have always been very tight, and stretching doesn't seem to help much. A good session of lying on that ball really helps loosen everything up, though. Hurts like hell, but feels so great afterwards. It's so inexpensive, too - you guys should try it.
I have a bunch of things on the way from TPTherapy, including a "proper" trigger point ball. I have to wonder if it's really going to work better than the plain rubber ball I use now - it cost ten times as much...
I have a bunch of things on the way from TPTherapy, including a "proper" trigger point ball. I have to wonder if it's really going to work better than the plain rubber ball I use now - it cost ten times as much...
mr stroke
Member
LOL at the guy in the back
To be fair the guy had terrible form and was probably disqualified
Are there any decent bodyweight programs that you can do at your home without any equipment? I'm trying to convince my gf to join me at the gym doing SS but in the meantime I'd like to get some recommendations on bodyweight programs which doesn't require you to buy massive amounts of rubber bands etc. We have some light dumb bells here though..
I know Insanity is one that in my knowledge doesn't require any equipment but are there more?
I know Insanity is one that in my knowledge doesn't require any equipment but are there more?
Thanks!
Heh, my old workout routine is done so I didn't wanna waste anyone's time with it! I'll just pop the new one, when I have it worked out, in here.
Cheers.
Just tried this:http://www.leangains.com/2011/02/birthday-cheesecake-mastery.html
I had about 2lbs of a flourless chocolate cake that is nothing but sugar, heavy cream, and dark chocolate with coconut milk vanilla ice cream and about 12 gluten free macaroons. I haven't eaten any sugar in about three months in the form of fruits and dessert. For some reason I don't feel too bad just that I don't want sugar in any form.
My muscles also feel real pumped like I just finished a workout. Is this a good idea from time to time like every few months or is shit going to go wrong soon?
Also, prior to this, I did a backbreaking 9 hour shift closing out a very popular restaurant (the last day of the restaurant)staying on my feet throughout and constantly deadlifting about 30lbs of dishes out of a floor level dishwasher and transporting the shit about nonstop. Could it be I just depleted my glycogen and and the sugar went right to that?
Also, I preceded this with a typical meal. About 8oz of steak cooked in the fat of a duck breast I also ate. The steak I surrounded with five strips of mangalitsa bacon which is pure fat(it turns translucent) and covered with blue cheese. I cooked up about a pound of brocolli and covered it with tons of gruyere. Then I made a three egg omelet cooked in about a quarter inch of bacon fat which I also loaded with gruyere. Then the sugar came, and I felt fine, but I wanted more just because. Damn, what a sexy meal.
I had about 2lbs of a flourless chocolate cake that is nothing but sugar, heavy cream, and dark chocolate with coconut milk vanilla ice cream and about 12 gluten free macaroons. I haven't eaten any sugar in about three months in the form of fruits and dessert. For some reason I don't feel too bad just that I don't want sugar in any form.
My muscles also feel real pumped like I just finished a workout. Is this a good idea from time to time like every few months or is shit going to go wrong soon?
Also, prior to this, I did a backbreaking 9 hour shift closing out a very popular restaurant (the last day of the restaurant)staying on my feet throughout and constantly deadlifting about 30lbs of dishes out of a floor level dishwasher and transporting the shit about nonstop. Could it be I just depleted my glycogen and and the sugar went right to that?
Also, I preceded this with a typical meal. About 8oz of steak cooked in the fat of a duck breast I also ate. The steak I surrounded with five strips of mangalitsa bacon which is pure fat(it turns translucent) and covered with blue cheese. I cooked up about a pound of brocolli and covered it with tons of gruyere. Then I made a three egg omelet cooked in about a quarter inch of bacon fat which I also loaded with gruyere. Then the sugar came, and I felt fine, but I wanted more just because. Damn, what a sexy meal.
Holy shit that's a mega meal (the steak stuff)!
If anything I would be more worried about that
Meh the odd treat wont kill you. Gotta enjoy life. No point in exercise if your life is gonna be boring and shitty as hell (unless if you enjoy being 100% strict).
The Last Wizard
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Started Gomad on Thursday and was just wondering how long should it take my stomach to adjust to drinking a gallon a day?
Cause the stomache pain is really annoying, thinking about quiting.
Cause the stomache pain is really annoying, thinking about quiting.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
I'd stop just because GOMAD is stupid.
The Last Wizard
Member
Only reason I'm considering gomad is because I'm a horribly picky eater and it'd be difficult for me to reach 3500 calories, not to mention I rarely get hungry throughout the day.
Right, this is what I'm doing but, of course, happy to take advice. I know it's a bit unstructured and very unscientific. Or at least it feels that way. I'll check back later to see if there have been any initial reactions. As I say it feels... wrong on a number of levels.
32 years old
I think about 1.76m tall
95kg
The aim is go lose a bit of weight, although the fat is carried well(!) and build more strength. I feel I should be lifting more for my size.
I'm currently going to the gym 5/6 times a week. The gym has every type of equipment I'd like. All types of machines, dumbbells (starting at 5lbs all the way upto 120lbs I think), bars (and weights to put on there far beyond what I could ever lift). Squat racks and fixed/adjustable benches. The only thing it doesn't have is a rowing machine and a swimming pool! I am splitting things like this:
Day 1: run 30mins, cycle 15mins (either can drop or rise depending on how I feel/other commitments and I change up the cardio to x-trainers etc to avoid boredom). But it's fair to say I do about 35/45 mins of cardio a day.
Then I change my t-shirt (because it will be dripping with sweat) and hit the weights. I've recently stopped using machines so do... dumbbells. I'll try to make this concise but I already realise it'll ramble on:
Chest...
Incline press: 50lbs x 2 and then increase by 10lbs every set til I reach my max of 80lbs. So that's 8 sets of about declining reps. At 50 I do around 16/18 reps (it feels like a nice warm-up) and at 80 I'll do around 8/10 reps. 80 is my max cos I struggle to get anything heavier into position! I'm sure I can press more quite easily though. I can't easily ask for assistance as when I go it's quiet and there are very few gym staff around; the time I have asked the assistance was more a hindrance than help. The dude was holding my hands around the knuckles!
I could use the bars and free weights I s'pose but I think it's something psychological stops me. And I just realised whilst writing this I've never gone up by 10lbs each set; instead I'll do bigger jumps by 20lbs or something. Hmm.
Flat press: same routine but I'll start heavier @around 60lbs and stop at around 80lbs again. This almost feels like an afterthought behind the incline press. Weird. So in total 4 sets of around 8/10 reps.
Incline flies: Just 3/4 sets x 8 reps @45lbs.
In all the above I'll throw in occasional bicep curls, one of various tricep machines or shrugs @60lbs to distract myself. 30lbs on the biceps as I don't wanna fail on the bigger muscles.
Yep, I'll just move straight onto back. I'm not sure if I should perhaps mix the two together but I do know I enjoy the antagonisitic nature of doing chest and back on the same day.
Back...
Lat pull downs: Nearly all machines... and all lat pull downs of various descriptions. They all do feel different though and I vary my grip trying to change up depth and width on the back. On the regular lat machine I'll go to, I think, around 90lbs. I'll do it in the same way as chest too: starting lower then moving on. So 6 sets of 8 reps. But on other machines I'll stay on lower weight: 60lbs max. So 2 more lat pull down machines with 3 sets of 8/6 reps. I'm missing a lot of detail on back but again... it feels like an afterthought. Chest seems to get most focus.
Incline dumbbell row: is that the right name? Basically bent forward raising my elbow up beyond my back with a dumbbell in my hand. 4 sets x 8 reps @ 45/50lbs.
I'm going on a bit. My shoulders, arms and legs are set up the same way. So just a quick rundown...
Day 2! Start with the same/similar running and then...
Shoulders...
Shoulder press: Much like chest incline press I have to stop at 70lbs as I struggle to get anything more into position! Start at 40lbs x 2sets x 14/16 reps through to 70lbs x 1 set x 8 reps. So in total 8 sets x 8 reps (aside from the starting 40lbs sets). God, this must be hard to follow...
Lateral and rear lateral raises: 4 sets x 6/8 reps at varying weights. 25 (x2)/30/35lbs.
Upright cable rows: 6 sets x 8/6reps of increasing weight to 100lbs.
Bicep and hammer curls: 10 sets x 10/8 reps of 40 - 80lbs although anything past 50lbs is usually on a machine...
Legs...
These are always often neglected but maintain a good tone from the running/x-trainer/cycling.
Leg extensions/hamstring curls: 4 sets of 10 reps at 80lbs onwards.
I'll try to rest for 30/40 seconds between sets but, occasionally, will get interrupted by something trying to talk to me or a pretty girl walking past.
I don't squat or deadlift like I used to in the past. And I'll simply alternate. So day 1 & day 2 repeating until something interrupts or I feel like a break.
Pull it apart GAF, I realise it's a real mess hence me posting it. I'll also try to edit it down to be more concise. Any questions fire away (maybe on my diet?).
EDIT: And lots of tricep stuff that, stupidly, I spread over both days. Extensions (seated to a max of 65lbs, 4 sets x 12 reps)/kickbacks (35lbs 4 x 8 reps), dips and so on... Ugh.
32 years old
I think about 1.76m tall
95kg
The aim is go lose a bit of weight, although the fat is carried well(!) and build more strength. I feel I should be lifting more for my size.
I'm currently going to the gym 5/6 times a week. The gym has every type of equipment I'd like. All types of machines, dumbbells (starting at 5lbs all the way upto 120lbs I think), bars (and weights to put on there far beyond what I could ever lift). Squat racks and fixed/adjustable benches. The only thing it doesn't have is a rowing machine and a swimming pool! I am splitting things like this:
Day 1: run 30mins, cycle 15mins (either can drop or rise depending on how I feel/other commitments and I change up the cardio to x-trainers etc to avoid boredom). But it's fair to say I do about 35/45 mins of cardio a day.
Then I change my t-shirt (because it will be dripping with sweat) and hit the weights. I've recently stopped using machines so do... dumbbells. I'll try to make this concise but I already realise it'll ramble on:
Chest...
Incline press: 50lbs x 2 and then increase by 10lbs every set til I reach my max of 80lbs. So that's 8 sets of about declining reps. At 50 I do around 16/18 reps (it feels like a nice warm-up) and at 80 I'll do around 8/10 reps. 80 is my max cos I struggle to get anything heavier into position! I'm sure I can press more quite easily though. I can't easily ask for assistance as when I go it's quiet and there are very few gym staff around; the time I have asked the assistance was more a hindrance than help. The dude was holding my hands around the knuckles!
I could use the bars and free weights I s'pose but I think it's something psychological stops me. And I just realised whilst writing this I've never gone up by 10lbs each set; instead I'll do bigger jumps by 20lbs or something. Hmm.
Flat press: same routine but I'll start heavier @around 60lbs and stop at around 80lbs again. This almost feels like an afterthought behind the incline press. Weird. So in total 4 sets of around 8/10 reps.
Incline flies: Just 3/4 sets x 8 reps @45lbs.
In all the above I'll throw in occasional bicep curls, one of various tricep machines or shrugs @60lbs to distract myself. 30lbs on the biceps as I don't wanna fail on the bigger muscles.
Yep, I'll just move straight onto back. I'm not sure if I should perhaps mix the two together but I do know I enjoy the antagonisitic nature of doing chest and back on the same day.
Back...
Lat pull downs: Nearly all machines... and all lat pull downs of various descriptions. They all do feel different though and I vary my grip trying to change up depth and width on the back. On the regular lat machine I'll go to, I think, around 90lbs. I'll do it in the same way as chest too: starting lower then moving on. So 6 sets of 8 reps. But on other machines I'll stay on lower weight: 60lbs max. So 2 more lat pull down machines with 3 sets of 8/6 reps. I'm missing a lot of detail on back but again... it feels like an afterthought. Chest seems to get most focus.
Incline dumbbell row: is that the right name? Basically bent forward raising my elbow up beyond my back with a dumbbell in my hand. 4 sets x 8 reps @ 45/50lbs.
I'm going on a bit. My shoulders, arms and legs are set up the same way. So just a quick rundown...
Day 2! Start with the same/similar running and then...
Shoulders...
Shoulder press: Much like chest incline press I have to stop at 70lbs as I struggle to get anything more into position! Start at 40lbs x 2sets x 14/16 reps through to 70lbs x 1 set x 8 reps. So in total 8 sets x 8 reps (aside from the starting 40lbs sets). God, this must be hard to follow...
Lateral and rear lateral raises: 4 sets x 6/8 reps at varying weights. 25 (x2)/30/35lbs.
Upright cable rows: 6 sets x 8/6reps of increasing weight to 100lbs.
Bicep and hammer curls: 10 sets x 10/8 reps of 40 - 80lbs although anything past 50lbs is usually on a machine...
Legs...
These are always often neglected but maintain a good tone from the running/x-trainer/cycling.
Leg extensions/hamstring curls: 4 sets of 10 reps at 80lbs onwards.
I'll try to rest for 30/40 seconds between sets but, occasionally, will get interrupted by something trying to talk to me or a pretty girl walking past.
I don't squat or deadlift like I used to in the past. And I'll simply alternate. So day 1 & day 2 repeating until something interrupts or I feel like a break.
Pull it apart GAF, I realise it's a real mess hence me posting it. I'll also try to edit it down to be more concise. Any questions fire away (maybe on my diet?).
EDIT: And lots of tricep stuff that, stupidly, I spread over both days. Extensions (seated to a max of 65lbs, 4 sets x 12 reps)/kickbacks (35lbs 4 x 8 reps), dips and so on... Ugh.
Help Fitness-GAF!
I hurt my lower back a couple of weeks ago while squatting. I've since cut out lower back work and lightened up my squats a bit to try and help it heal, but the pain continues to be on and off. In fact, it's causing me discomfort right now even though yesterday I worked out my chest and shoulders, leading me to be confused as to what the injury is.
This is where I feel the discomfort:
What can I do to help the healing process? Should I just go to the doctor?
I hurt my lower back a couple of weeks ago while squatting. I've since cut out lower back work and lightened up my squats a bit to try and help it heal, but the pain continues to be on and off. In fact, it's causing me discomfort right now even though yesterday I worked out my chest and shoulders, leading me to be confused as to what the injury is.
This is where I feel the discomfort:
What can I do to help the healing process? Should I just go to the doctor?
HarryHengst
Member
Start with half a gallon for a while to give your stomach time to adjust and see how your lifts and body react to it. a gallon is like 2500 calories, and i doubt you only eat 1000 calories a day of normal food.
I would say yes, go to a doctor. Dont ever gamble with your back.
I had a pain there though it wasn't very bad. I had it fixed by a deep tissue massage when I was on holiday and it just happened to fix it. Though from the sounds of it a visit to the physio might be best for you.
Holy shit that's a mega meal (the steak stuff)!
If anything I would be more worried about that
Meh the odd treat wont kill you. Gotta enjoy life. No point in exercise if your life is gonna be boring and shitty as hell (unless if you enjoy being 100% strict).
Just so you know, steak is one of the better meats due to it's omega-3 ratio even if it's from a conventionally reared cow. Studies against red meat have been categorically debunked over the last few years. Eat steak and be merry.
I don't mean to sound harsh, but quit being so picky. A ton of the greatest foods for you don't taste super great but you still need to have them.
This whole workout is way too much isolation, way too many reps with too little weight, not enought compound lifts, and just way too much volume. Less is more. You need to really read the OP and take it to heart, because your routine tells me even if you did read it, you chose to ignore almost everything it says.
Haha I have nothing against it. I love red meat and have it a lot.
Huh, simple as that. An outside perspective suddenly makes so much sense. Would you keep the cardio in take that stuff to separate days?
EDIT: Oh and it was because I read the OP that I thought "what the fuck am I doing??" Cheers.
The Last Wizard
Member
No I understand what you mean, It's not always taste with me. It's presentation as well, the way it looks.
Im not trying to be a dick, it just isn't worth breaking that routine apart, because it is just doing too juch wrong, and needs to be completely thrown away. Is there a reason you aren't doing squats/deads/bench?
If anything do 10-15 minutes of cardio on lifting days, and keep the majority of it to rest days.
mr stroke
Member
scratch that whole routine and make it simple but much more efficient-
Just do this over and over-
(free weights only)
Day 1-Squat, Deadlift, Bench, Press
Day 2-Cardio/HIIT/Circuit Training
Oh no, didn't think you're being a dick. I knew it was wrong I've just been too close to the problem (although it did keep me in quite good shape when I could stick with it). So, yeah, appreciate the comment.
I'd originally said I was gonna post my new routine in here (after having read the OP) but thought I'd share this monstrosity instead.
The reason I'm not doing squats and deadlifts is, bizarrely, the gym is so stacked with equipment there's very little freespace. But, I'll stop being considerate and start those suckers up again.
mr stroke: that day 1 will be tomorrow. I'll have to plan a little more carefully for day 2 of course but I'm looking forward to squats and deadlifts again.
Its a gym, nobody should give a shit if you take up space to do real lifts.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
I really don't like it how people in this thread are so adamant about forcing people on certain programs. Follow this, follow that, etc.. Yes, I know we try to help newbies get on a routine like SS, but fuck that. If something works for you, you can't argue with success.
I've been lifting since 2002, and it literally took me years to figure out that diet was the main variable that would help get me bigger, stronger, and more cut. I've done isolation exercises for all those years. I did a 5 day routine doing back on Mondays, bis/tris on Tuesdays, chest on Wednesdays, shoulders on Thursdays, and legs on Fridays. Now the majority of you people would hate on that routine, but it WORKED. The only reason why I'm not doing that routine anymore is because my right elbow still hurts, and I don't want to take a chance of fucking it up even more.
Seriously, get off your high horse.
I've been lifting since 2002, and it literally took me years to figure out that diet was the main variable that would help get me bigger, stronger, and more cut. I've done isolation exercises for all those years. I did a 5 day routine doing back on Mondays, bis/tris on Tuesdays, chest on Wednesdays, shoulders on Thursdays, and legs on Fridays. Now the majority of you people would hate on that routine, but it WORKED. The only reason why I'm not doing that routine anymore is because my right elbow still hurts, and I don't want to take a chance of fucking it up even more.
Seriously, get off your high horse.
entremet
Member
I hear that. But I'd expect this thread to be full of testosterone! And that said no one should take anything folk say online too seriously.
For example, my posts above? Do I really care what folk'll say about it? Not really - I'm just in the mood to shock my body a bit and thought I'd chat it through.
Anyway, on your point, you're totally right of course. I've always listened to what my body tells me and the results that follow.
How does hitting a body part once a week feel for you? It does kind of work for me but I prefer at least twice a week if I want to stay really taut.
You're right, to an extent. I, myself, am very fit and "cut" basically just doing yoga, Pilates, and dance with the occasional compound lift when I get bored (though I suspect it has more to do with genetics).
But when people come into this thread looking for advice, looking for how to get the best gains quickly, they should be given the best advice for the results they want. Compound lifts are just the most efficient way of getting the results most guys in here want.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
And what kind of results is that? getting stronger? That's it. Good, tell me how your day changes the next day and beyond. People post pics of themselves in this thread, and judging by their physiques, I'm not impressed (Cooter has a nice physique, though). They're big, but have no defintion. I've posted plenty of pics of myself in this thread, and in other threads. Both straight and Gaygaf goes crazy, and I've gotten many PMs asking what my routine is. I've had women say I have an amazing body, and I love the compliments. Makes them more physically attractive to you. But I'm also strong for my weight and height, too.
10 years is a long time. I feel it's our job to point new lifters towards the programs that will help them eat the best and get strongest/biggest in the most efficient and safe way possible.
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