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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Weighted squat jumps with a barbell? That doesn't sound safe, no.
That is unless you're using a weighted vest or dumbbells maybe.
Edit: Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2E4NJQV_pE
I see it too. I'll pass. If you can jump with the weight of what you squat with maybe you should up the weight?
Yeah but I saw a guy do that with 45lb plates on.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Sounds like an express route to snap city to me. If he's comfortable doing that, more power to him.
cuevas. PhD.
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Well, haven't been following this thread as closely lately, but here is an article the more hardcore of you may find interesting. Glycogen, not just for your muscles!
http://bigthink.com/ideas/42663?utm...campaign=Feed:+bigthink/main+(Big+Think+Main)
Looking for some more detailed information now.
http://bigthink.com/ideas/42663?utm...campaign=Feed:+bigthink/main+(Big+Think+Main)
Looking for some more detailed information now.
Price Dalton
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It works when it comes naturally packaged in grass-fed meat and dairy, but supplemental CLA has spotty and often negative results. Isolated CLA isomers that might perform well in in vitro studies act totally differently when you actually feed it to animals or humans.
This is a pretty good overview.
Or do power cleans. Unless I'm missing something here.
Psychotext
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Saw this one linked from that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=wUH_Bg7fesA
Looks uncomfortable.
Chittagong
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Thanks for the link, damn, they sound like utter crap. Yeah, that answers my question.
Diatribe1974
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Sorry if I seem a bit lost, but from what I understand (as was posted in the OP) that (essentially) for strength training (as my line of work rewards strength as well as brains) is that I should do a 3 set of 5 reps each set with a 4th for the "until exhaustion" or is the 3rd set the exhaustion set? Am trying to put together my "List o'shit" for when I get signed up at my local Anytime Fitness.
cuevas. PhD.
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If your plan is 3x5 you do 3 sets of 5 at your work weight. Most strength programs with linear progression don't have "till failure" sets. You may not get the whole 3x5, 5x5, 1x5, or whatever but that's a different story.
hawkshockey11
Banned
Definitely glad I took Friday off to rest my knees. They are much better now.
Its a linear training program, you aren't training to failure.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Just figured out I'm doing 350 for reps for the first time tomorrow (squats). Time to store up some energy!
Hopefully I can get 10, but looking at last cycle that's unlikely. Still gonna give it all I got.
Hopefully I can get 10, but looking at last cycle that's unlikely. Still gonna give it all I got.
Good luck! What foods do you typically go to for that "stored energy"?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Eating peanut butter right now. I don't know if it really works, but it feels like it does. (probably mental).
entremet
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It's also not the best at predicting professional success. Especially, since everyone ''crams'' for the combine since the ''events'' are all well known. They're are trainers who just specialize at helping hopefuls get good numbers.
I've always thought the combine was dumb. For example, Jerry Rice ran a pretty slow 40 yard dash as receiver.
Diatribe1974
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What would you recommend to me for a routine for pure strength? Don't get me wrong, I AM shooting for strength that helps me at work (I move appliances, furniture, ect) and want to be as self sufficient as humanly possible. While I know I'll get some size along with the simple fact of adding muscle from my current setup, I want to be the guy that others say "Man, he's strong as an ox...."
cuevas. PhD.
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Starting Strength and StrongLifts 5x5 are both great for beginners. The only mistake you could make with those two is having a big ego and starting too heavy. I'd go with 5x5 just because it gets you more practice and it's hard to mess up the rows than to mess up power cleans.
Volume and intensity are not the same things
Diatribe1974
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Correct me if I'm wrong, if I remember correctly, to figure out the weight you start out for building strength, you find your "max" for whatever you're working on (chest, arms, legs, ect) then scale it back to 2/3's of that? Been a very, very long time since I had to think about this stuff. (should've never stopped to begin with)
hawkshockey11
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You start with the empty bar regardless and add at least 5 lbs every workout.
That might be the instruction for Strong Lifts but it's not for Starting Strength. From memory, the process described in the book is to do a number of sets, increasing the weight until it feels like the next set would be too challenging and that's your first session and starting point.
Strong Lifts also has a calculator in the spreadsheet for calculating starting weight if you've already been doing the lifts wih alternate sets/reps.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Ok, curling in the squat rack no longer bothers me at all. This group of 6 middle aged fuck holes were super setting bench press, skull crushers, and 5 separate sets of some half rep fucked up looking dumbbell tricep extension/press thing. Using not one but 2 squat racks. I fucking raged hard core.
On top of that I only got 350 for 5 reps on my last set. I guess my legs were already pretty burned out from the last two weeks.
On top of that I only got 350 for 5 reps on my last set. I guess my legs were already pretty burned out from the last two weeks.
Submaximal barbell squats are fucking hard. If nothing else you're probably thankful that you kept with deadbeef's advice to stick with the 5/3/1 cycles and not get ahead of yourself.
Also, I witnessed one lifter spotting another during sets of curls for the first time. Multiple sets, not one. It was quite peculiar, though likely commonplace for many people reading this thread but since I lift in the early afternoon these things escape me most of the time.
Also, I witnessed one lifter spotting another during sets of curls for the first time. Multiple sets, not one. It was quite peculiar, though likely commonplace for many people reading this thread but since I lift in the early afternoon these things escape me most of the time.
FallingEdge
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lol. That shit sucks. Would hate having to deal with that ish. 350 is still a pretty good squat. Keep trucking along.
As for me, I just came back from seeing the hand doctor and he told me that I can still go to the gym and as long as my splint is secure, I can grip and do whatever I want. So knowing all that and as much as I want to deadlift, I will remove that from my program for the next 8 weeks. I'm not going to try to put that stress on myself when grip is already an issue. So any back exercises I can do that peeps want to suggest would be greatly appreciated.
I will most likely remove OHP as well. Stick to a seated press via dumbbells. Maybe seated smith machine press. Still keep the bench and chest exercises. Same with squat and other leg related exercises. And fuck it. I'm going to go for a cut as well. Push it hard for the next 8 weeks followed by a slow bulk into the summer.
Damn injuries be changing everything. Time to eat more protein but less food and less crap for my body. Let's do this.
Low Carb Talibans
by Martin Berkhan 2009, February 2nd
Brilliant simplicity, hence the worthwhile repost of an older article. It could be the third absolute weight loss truth, really. The first two, courtesy of Brad Pilon's Eat Stop Eat, are:
Everything else is determining the details, if you're trying to be succinct these two points shall suffice.
by Martin Berkhan 2009, February 2nd
Martin Berkhan said:
Brilliant simplicity, hence the worthwhile repost of an older article. It could be the third absolute weight loss truth, really. The first two, courtesy of Brad Pilon's Eat Stop Eat, are:
Brad Pilon said:
Everything else is determining the details, if you're trying to be succinct these two points shall suffice.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Well it is my 5/3/1 week, so it's not terrible, especially with the last two weeks incredible (for me) numbers.
I think it being my first time with 350 had some impact too. But yeah I said a while back I was going to heed DB's advice
On the subject of curl spots I've always found it odd. Like the odd times I see people spotting for military press.
BlueScrote
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Man, nothing is more frustrating than when a group of people takes up two pieces of the same equipment. Whenever there is a group they always waste time anyways so it is doubly frustrating.
Squatted 205 today and had a guy watch. Good thing too because he said my hips aren't going back enough and my knees are starting to go over my toes. Always good to have someone check your form
http://www.bodybuilding.net/training/knees-over-toes-myth-12253.html
About deadlifts, is my back supposed to hurt like hell for a few seconds after doing a set or am I doing something wrong?
I asked the gym instructor about my form and he said I was doing it correctly. Though he did say lifting too much weight can screw up my back. I have been steadily increasing the weight and I am now at 180 pounds, which is probably not too much.
I asked the gym instructor about my form and he said I was doing it correctly. Though he did say lifting too much weight can screw up my back. I have been steadily increasing the weight and I am now at 180 pounds, which is probably not too much.
HarryHengst
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My back feels a bit uncomfortable for a few minutes after deadlifts, but as long as it's in the centre of my back and it only lasts a short while i'm not too worried.
Exact same happens to me. Thanks for the help, seems it is normal then.
HarryHengst
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Foam rolling my hips is more painful than deadlifting. :lol
FallingEdge
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I wouldn't call it pain. It is more of a sore sensation that I feel in the lower back/ass/quads.
Perhaps pain wasn't the best word to use. It feels sore rather but not always though. My form looks good according my lifting buddy but maybe there's something weird about my physiology.
ChuyMasta
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Age: 27 going 28 in June
Height: 6"2
Weight: 194
Goal: Really vague. Lose at least 10 pounds for a short term goal.
Current Training Schedule: Beginners routine straight from the OP
Current Training Equipment Available: Whatever the Gym has
Comments: I've NEVER weight lifted in my life. I used to do mostly cardio and rutines to lose weight that's it.
I am in terrible shape (Not fat) and I wanna make sure I don't overdo something here. My back is not the best. My lower back curvature is higher than average. This is part of the reason I've never weight lifted before. It is nothing to be alarmed about, just something to be AWARE of.
As for diet, I'd like to slowly transition to the milk diet.
I am giving myself 3 months to see results. Tips will be appreciated and I will constantly seek help on this thread. By the end of that period, I would like to start playing around with the routine and see what best fits me. As it is now, I am following the OP as accurately as I can.
Height: 6"2
Weight: 194
Goal: Really vague. Lose at least 10 pounds for a short term goal.
Current Training Schedule: Beginners routine straight from the OP
Current Training Equipment Available: Whatever the Gym has
Comments: I've NEVER weight lifted in my life. I used to do mostly cardio and rutines to lose weight that's it.
I am in terrible shape (Not fat) and I wanna make sure I don't overdo something here. My back is not the best. My lower back curvature is higher than average. This is part of the reason I've never weight lifted before. It is nothing to be alarmed about, just something to be AWARE of.
As for diet, I'd like to slowly transition to the milk diet.
I am giving myself 3 months to see results. Tips will be appreciated and I will constantly seek help on this thread. By the end of that period, I would like to start playing around with the routine and see what best fits me. As it is now, I am following the OP as accurately as I can.
I had high blood pressure passed on to me from an entire family on medication. Whenever I do squats I get light headed and then feel sick, even at low weights. I can do sets of 10 at 125, anything above makes me feel like my hearts going to explode or I'm going to pass out. This sucks considering I'm a pretty fit 6'3" male at 220lbs.
Just to give a comparison, the rest of my body is pretty strong. I can calf raise a couple hundred lbs and I don't feel the same effect at all.
Just to give a comparison, the rest of my body is pretty strong. I can calf raise a couple hundred lbs and I don't feel the same effect at all.
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