Maybe try heavy one arm db rows.
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Maybe try heavy one arm db rows.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Real squats are of course irreplaceable, but if you don't have access to a squat rack, then one-legged squats are a really good alternative. Takes a lot of balance and core strength, and they hit your quads like a motherfucker.
Throw on a weighted vest and have fun. It's unfortunate that people STILL believe that all those who do calisthenics/gymnastics have weak legs. That's just not true. There's so much you can do with your body.
Jason's Ultimatum
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::thumbs up::
The problem isn't lifting for aesthetics, nor people who want to get huge or ripped. The problem is dude's coming into this thread and moaning because "JuiceheadGAF" is too darn mean after they're told to stop kipping onto the toilet to take a shit and instead lift a weight. People get really offended over fitness advice, it's weird.
Mecha_Infantry
Banned
For when girls ask to feel on their biceps and they say "God Allah Buddha Rippletoe said no point in isolation exercises!! But I can deadlift 140lbs!!!....watch!"
Smh
muntersaur
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I'm interested in both aesthetics and strength but am enthused when I meet people only into aesthetics or people only into strength. For me fitness is fitness, and this thread would be far more interesting to read if I didn't have to constantly roll my eyes at others who think they are better than others just because they do not share the same goals.
Silphonica
Banned
I'm a skinny bastard and hit my first gym session today.
I can't do proper sets of 25kg without failing on the bench. But I can do it on the "w" bicep bar.
Any tips?
I can't do proper sets of 25kg without failing on the bench. But I can do it on the "w" bicep bar.
Any tips?
Spiritreaver
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Hate to interrupt this thrilling conversation about aesthetics vs functionality, but I've got a problem.
I just had my first lifting session with my new buddy, we had to lift in the morning to fit our schedules, way earlier than I usually workout. Things went alright, but all my lifts were down about 10-15%. Kinda expected, number of factors, not having the usual 2-3 meals before the workout, not properly warming up, body not used to it.
Should I just stick it out and hope my body adjusts, or should I eat more ahead of time? Eat the night before? Today I woke up about an hour and a half before lifting and ate my usual breakfast, high carbs and protein, not unlike what I have before a workout.
Gut is telling me I need to just wait it out, I had enough energy to complete a full workout and even do cardio, just my strength was down. Sounds more like my body wasn't ready, but resources were there. Maybe wake up earlier, warmup longer.
I just had my first lifting session with my new buddy, we had to lift in the morning to fit our schedules, way earlier than I usually workout. Things went alright, but all my lifts were down about 10-15%. Kinda expected, number of factors, not having the usual 2-3 meals before the workout, not properly warming up, body not used to it.
Should I just stick it out and hope my body adjusts, or should I eat more ahead of time? Eat the night before? Today I woke up about an hour and a half before lifting and ate my usual breakfast, high carbs and protein, not unlike what I have before a workout.
Gut is telling me I need to just wait it out, I had enough energy to complete a full workout and even do cardio, just my strength was down. Sounds more like my body wasn't ready, but resources were there. Maybe wake up earlier, warmup longer.
Here we go ...obviously the end goal of all training is either the obese powerlifter or a bodybuilder. And there are weight classes at all in powerlifting, so everyone is obese. Everyone.
As for working out for those aztecs, most women just appreciate a man who isn't a sack of a shit or a flabby little thing.
Depends on how you manage stress in your current program. You mentioned a number of things that could have attributed, so it could be a bad day.
I'm assuming that's 25kg added to the bar, so the total, with the bar added, would be around 100 lbs/ 45 kg. The ez curl bar (the w bicep bar in your words) weighs around 10 kg or so.
I would....
1. work on your chin ups
2. learn how to bench since you're just starting out. There plenty of good videos on youtube by Mark Rippetoe on the bench
3. use less weight on the bench. What made you pick out 25 kg for your first time?
As for working out for those aztecs, most women just appreciate a man who isn't a sack of a shit or a flabby little thing.
Depends on how you manage stress in your current program. You mentioned a number of things that could have attributed, so it could be a bad day.
I'm assuming that's 25kg added to the bar, so the total, with the bar added, would be around 100 lbs/ 45 kg. The ez curl bar (the w bicep bar in your words) weighs around 10 kg or so.
I would....
1. work on your chin ups
2. learn how to bench since you're just starting out. There plenty of good videos on youtube by Mark Rippetoe on the bench
3. use less weight on the bench. What made you pick out 25 kg for your first time?
muntersaur
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When I work out early in the morning I don't have breakfast. I have some protein powder with water beforehand, and take a bit of caffeine powder. During workout, I have creatine mixed with a few grams of BCAAs. If I have eaten enough food the day before I have more than enough energy to work out to my full potential and have found out that I actually work out better on a relatively emptier stomach. After training fasted, I find that I want to eat as much as possible, and probably eat more on these days because of this.
Silphonica
Banned
Fuuuuuuck...you must be a beast...
I'm not up to the advanced stuff yet...but I'm progressing well and have yet to hit a block or motivational barrier especially as a lot of exercise can be done 10-20 mins per day.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Man, I thought 3 plates got a lot of attention (squats). I did some heavy singles after my main sets today on 3 week of 5/3/1 and went up to 435 and when I got under the bar with 4+ plates people fucking stopped everything, even the people out in the treadmill area were craning their necks. Shit's hilarious.
Gotta love the bend the bar really takes when you start getting over 4 plates though, makes you feel like a baus.
I figured you would!
Edit: Oh, and I'm now to the 5th notch in my lifting belt, started at 3 being tight. Still hovering at 238-240lbs. Shit's strange.
Gotta love the bend the bar really takes when you start getting over 4 plates though, makes you feel like a baus.
I figured you would!
Edit: Oh, and I'm now to the 5th notch in my lifting belt, started at 3 being tight. Still hovering at 238-240lbs. Shit's strange.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
What's this debate about aesthetics vs. strength? You guys serious? Gymnasts settled this question a LONG time ago, and by that I mean why not have both?
What's funny is I don't even look that strong:
So it's always fun to surprise people when they see what I'm capable of. My muscles are very dense, which is the most important thing for the various repetitive and endurance-based exercises of calisthenics and gymnastics programs.
What's funny is I don't even look that strong:
So it's always fun to surprise people when they see what I'm capable of. My muscles are very dense, which is the most important thing for the various repetitive and endurance-based exercises of calisthenics and gymnastics programs.
Because apparently gymnasts are short/chicken legged and can't bench past 230...
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
"Dat mountain, gonna be my bitch."
Seriously though this back and forth needs to stop. It serves no purpose and doesn't motivate anyone. Go back to answering questions and posting how awesome we all are lift and looks wise.
Asthetical strength GOOOOOOO!
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Haha, yeah, it's a ridiculous misconception.
Gymnasts have ridiculously powerful legs (floor work, anyone? flips, lunges, etc.), they're just not as swoll as a powerlifter's, of course. And believe me, I've read enough stories about people shocked by just how strong gymnasts are in the gym when it comes to deadlifts, squats, and benching--surprisingly so--to call bullshit on the second point (I know you're being sarcastic, but there really are people who doubt their strength).
I saw some 20 year old kid doing sets with 435 and going below parallel.
That was pretty impressive as he was probably about 5'8'' and 180 lbs.
Made my sets of 350 look like nothing.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yeah, that's good for his weight, I wonder how long he had been training. I can't wait to get some more time under my belt to see how strong I really am!
Don'tBeWeird
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So, um.
I've been out of the gym for over a year thanks to some bowel problems giving me troubles. I've lost pretty much all of the muscle (and strength) I gained.
The doctor recently told me I might have Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Would that prevent me from reaching the body/strength/fitness of my dreams, anyone know? I just want to get back in shape again. I feel so weak. Ugh.
I've been out of the gym for over a year thanks to some bowel problems giving me troubles. I've lost pretty much all of the muscle (and strength) I gained.
The doctor recently told me I might have Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Would that prevent me from reaching the body/strength/fitness of my dreams, anyone know? I just want to get back in shape again. I feel so weak. Ugh.
FallingEdge
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We have a guy from Switzerland here at work. Knowledge transfer of a project. He's my responsibility so that means we are eating out every day this week.
Not good for me when I am on a cut. Bad eating and no gym at lunch.
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Not good for me when I am on a cut. Bad eating and no gym at lunch.
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Spiritreaver
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Yeah, I'm not sure why I even posted. Pretty much answered my own question. We'll see how the rest of the week plays out.
I've only tried this a couple of times while attempting early morning workouts, not sure if it's quite for me, but if this week doesn't level out, I'll give it a shot.muntersaur said:
Man, thanks for bringing up gymnasts. They completely represent the kinda body I'd like to have, very muscular, but very defined, dense, and strong. They've always been at the top my list of athletes I really admire.
Hey, I have a small question. I just bought a pull-up station (called better body solutions power tower, it was 100$ and fairly cheap but does the job), I use it to do wide-grip, dips, inverted rows and pull-ups/chin-ups. I started doing 3 sets of my max every day, but is this too much? Should I do these exercises one day then take one day off? I stopped going to the gym until my exams are done but I'm thinking about continuing these exercises once I start again (using the station in the morning then going to the gym the after-noon).
any recommendations on doing a situp/push up routine? How many reps? How many times per week?
Right now I run 3-4 times per week, each run is 2 miles.
I want to throw in something else, but don't want to go to a gym or buy weights. Would sit up/push ups be a decent addition?
Right now I run 3-4 times per week, each run is 2 miles.
I want to throw in something else, but don't want to go to a gym or buy weights. Would sit up/push ups be a decent addition?
Hell no...
You might need to change your diet and de-stress...
Find the triggers to your IBS and work to lessen them and or eliminate them completely...not an easy task I know.
You just have to do a lot of exploring for what works and what doesn't...it will take time but as long as you keep and open mind I'm sure you will figure it out.
I have Ulcerated PanColitus. It makes IBS look like a walk in the park. Get yourself properly treated, get on Immuran, Remicade, whatever it takes and you will be fine.
I am currently at 190lbs, benching 265, Squating 300, and deadlifting 405 at 36 years old. You can get in really good shape even with IBS. Just make sure you have emptied your bowels before doing a heavy squat and drink tons of water to keep yourself hydrated.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
LOL
I think I got like 35ish
i would like to see you do this.
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good fucking workout today.
squat - 285x3x5. tough, but got it.
deadlift - 315x1x5. not as hard as i thought it would be.
bench - 160x3x5. easy.
ok a few questions:
1. it seems like my upper body is lagging massively behind my lower body. i would like to get stronger in my upper body so i don't get pushed around so easily playing basketball. my lower body is fine where it is, i will keep squatting 3x a week and moving up 5 pounds a workout til i can't anymore. anyways, what do you guys suggest for some good upperbody workouts/routines? i don't feel like SS has enough emphasis on upper body (only press and bench, for me)
2. mr. city suggested having a light squats day and only deadlifting once a week. i think those are great ideas. i want my light squat day to be wednesday because that's when i play basketball. and i think i'll move deadlifts to friday. anyways my question is: what constitutes light squats? 80%? 50%? and what rep scheme should i do for deadlifts? same 1x5 i've been doing? lower weight more reps? higher weight less reps?
3. i did core work for the first time in a long ass time today, it was great. front and side planks for 1 minute each way (front, left, right), and 3x8 of 50,60,70 lbs on the self-fellash machine. what else do you guys suggest? my abs are pretty worked out right now, but what are some good exercises to mix in?
4. i did those crane thingies today too, to help with my shoulders. lasted about 20 seconds. my wrists hurt like a mofo afterwards. are they supposed to hurt?
Why does eating out mean bad eating? Are you taking this guy to fast food places or something? You can find decent choices at almost any restaurant...well, depends on your area I guess
Yeah, eating out doesnt mean you have to eat like shit, that's a choice you're making.
I like to believe their tuna is a decently healthy sandwich. A footlong tuna on wheat with no extra mayonaise and a bunch of veggies is hard to beat. Nobody tell me otherwise!
Pretty bread heavy. I imagine if you get a 6" and load on the veggies it isnt bad, but the stuff I want from there isn't healthy in the slightest.
It doesn't have to be a mystery. Looks pretty shitty if you ask me:
For a 6" whole wheat tuna
Calories 530
Sodium 1010 mg
Total Fat 31 g
Saturated 7 g
Total Carbs 44 g
Protein 22 g
You had to have known there was no way all that bread was going to be a healthy lunch option.
Bet you can make it a healthy lunch by doing the 6" and paying the $2 to double up on the meat though.
It'd still have 40g of carbs from the bread. You can, however, turn anything you want from there into a salad or you can ask the kid at the counter to hollow out the bread before he/she puts in the filling.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Well it looks like the sodium is the worst part of that meal, no? Are the carbs worse? Thought carbs were ok if I have to bulk up? 2$ to double up sounds like a good idea though, I've never done it. My tuna sandwich is going to be exploding.
Other than the bread, the rest of the calories from that sandwich come from the fat in the mayo. You could cut the calories and sodium by going for the oven-roasted chicken, the roast beef, the club (all half the salt, 100+ less calories, more protein per serving) or the smokehouse BBQ chicken (200 mg less salt, 100 less calories, way more protein per serving).
I'm recovering from a mild case of Golfers Elbow (been out of the gym since thursday). Friday was painful, but the pain has subsided, and has been gone since Saturday. I've been stretching daily, mingling w/ trigger points, and taking fish oil/cissus/animal flex. The elbow feels pretty good right now, with no evident pain. I plan on returning to the gym tommorow, but wanted to exercise extra precaution and know which specific exercises aggrevate this injury.
Right now these are my exercises:
Chest/Tricep/Shoulder Day
DB Bench
Dips
BB Close grip Bench
Military Press
DB Standing Shoulder Press
Lateral/Front Raises (fat gripz)
Rear Delt/Reverse Fly(Cables)
Back/Bicep Day
Deadlifts
BB Rows(Fat Gripz)
Pullups
Bicep Curls(Fat Gripz)
Legs/Misc:
Squats (back/front)
Calf Raises
Military Press
DB Bench
BB Curls (fat gripz)
I'd appreciate any advice from someone that has suffered from tennis/golfers elbow injury in the past and knows which exercises agrevate the condition.
Right now these are my exercises:
Chest/Tricep/Shoulder Day
DB Bench
Dips
BB Close grip Bench
Military Press
DB Standing Shoulder Press
Lateral/Front Raises (fat gripz)
Rear Delt/Reverse Fly(Cables)
Back/Bicep Day
Deadlifts
BB Rows(Fat Gripz)
Pullups
Bicep Curls(Fat Gripz)
Legs/Misc:
Squats (back/front)
Calf Raises
Military Press
DB Bench
BB Curls (fat gripz)
I'd appreciate any advice from someone that has suffered from tennis/golfers elbow injury in the past and knows which exercises agrevate the condition.
Avoid repetitive movement with your wrists or elbows. So no curls, presses, raises, pull-ups etc. while you're healing. And my strongest advice would be to get a PT's (physical therapist) approval before doing exercises that might aggravate your injury. I say that because everyone's body is different and heals at different rates. A PT working with your injury directly will be able to help you out a little better than anyone over the Internet can.
Mecha_Infantry
Banned
SO I Was in the gym today hitting back and was tempted to do deadlifts. I started slowly but hit a single pull of 440lbs. It's been a year battling with my two sipped disks and I was glad I could pull what I comfortably doing early last year.
So I hope to be back to my usual 550lbs for reps and sets, but we'll see. I won't rush
OK bulk is done, cutting till September
Protein and bed time..I'm out
So I hope to be back to my usual 550lbs for reps and sets, but we'll see. I won't rush
OK bulk is done, cutting till September
Protein and bed time..I'm out
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