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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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mr stroke

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I was thinking about buying a Prowler. Anybody here ever use one, own one? Looks like it can fit in my trunk if I take it to a park or to a track somewhere.


I also want to get an equipped medicine ball (medicine ball w/ rope attached) and plyoboxes. There are some parks and school playgrounds close by me with good soccer fields and stuff ... summer is coming and I can do this stuff outside .... was thinking of getting a resistance chute for running too ... how funny will i look when people drive by eh? i don't really care though becuase i want to do stuff outside when i can. Figured I can do these things on conditioning days ... plus I really need to improve my conditioning.

prowler is awesome, but IMO too much of a pain to lug around.


I push my car instead. Find an empty parking lot and go(even better if it has a slight incline)
 

Go_Ly_Dow

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Question about bread.

I've heard conflicting opinions on bread and gaining weight. Some people have told me eating it makes you fat and one weight trainer told me not to eat bread because it lacks proper nutrition and it's pointless.

I'm trying to gain weight by the way. I need to put on a bit of fat as well as muscle.
 
Question about bread.

I've heard conflicting opinions on bread and gaining weight. Some people have told me eating it makes you fat and one weight trainer told me not to eat bread because it lacks proper nutrition and it's pointless.

I'm trying to gain weight by the way. I need to put on a bit of fat as well as muscle.


Bread "makes you fat" because carbs are the easiest nutrient to ingest a stupid-large amount of. Having chicken for dinner? Drop the chicken breast on a bulkie roll to make a sandwich and bam, 200 more calories or so in your meal. Order a medium fry at McDonald's? You have 350 calories of carbs as a side dish.

Carbs are the easy thing to control the volume of for gaining/losing weight. Just pick something with fiber and not Wonder Bread.
 

F#A#Oo

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Question about bread.

I've heard conflicting opinions on bread and gaining weight. Some people have told me eating it makes you fat and one weight trainer told me not to eat bread because it lacks proper nutrition and it's pointless.

I'm trying to gain weight by the way. I need to put on a bit of fat as well as muscle.

Everything in moderation...

I eat a bread called "Burgen" which is soya and linseed...I spread humous/hummus on it...each slice is roughly about 5-6g of protein. I eat maximum of 2 a day...
 

Mr.City

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Question about bread.

I've heard conflicting opinions on bread and gaining weight. Some people have told me eating it makes you fat and one weight trainer told me not to eat bread because it lacks proper nutrition and it's pointless.

I'm trying to gain weight by the way. I need to put on a bit of fat as well as muscle.

There's not evil about bread or carbs. The problem is that carbs are delicious and are easy to overeat. For a lot of people who don't train hard, their diet is just loaded with carbs from shitty sources, like candy, junk food, etc.

Bread, unless you eat half a loaf of it a day, will not make you fat by itself.
 

bananaman1234

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I found this text document with a list of lit reviews/studies for common fitness questions from another site. Just thought I'd share.

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Full text file download: http://www.mediafire.com/?2t7m0xulh08784m
 
Edit: I just saw the best ad I've ever seen on youtube. (it's long), but worth watching if you haven't seen it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7I7iasuIdw&feature=pyv

ugh that quote in the video just annoys me ("our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure").

can someone explain how that makes sense? inadequacy is definitely our biggest fear, to not be able to handle what comes our way. that's why our greatest ambition is to be powerful beyond measure, to be untouchable. quote just seems backwards.
 

Izick

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ugh that quote in the video just annoys me ("our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure").

can someone explain how that makes sense? inadequacy is definitely our biggest fear, to not be able to handle what comes our way. that's why our greatest ambition is to be powerful beyond measure, to be untouchable. quote just seems backwards.

Yeah, I was never a fan of that quote either. It seems to be hot in a lot of those "inspirational" videos. It doesn't really make any logical sense, or hold any profound meaning.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
ugh that quote in the video just annoys me ("our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure").

can someone explain how that makes sense? inadequacy is definitely our biggest fear, to not be able to handle what comes our way. that's why our greatest ambition is to be powerful beyond measure, to be untouchable. quote just seems backwards.

You're afraid that you're powerful beyond measure, but will never live up to that potential. That's the meaning in my interpretation.
 
You're afraid that you're powerful beyond measure, but will never live up to that potential.

that's basically fear of being inadequate >_>

Yeah, I was never a fan of that quote either. It seems to be hot in a lot of those "inspirational" videos. It doesn't really make any logical sense, or hold any profound meaning.

yeah it kinda ruins those inspiration videos for me :(

rocky and mohammad ali quotes on the other hand are win :)
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
that's basically fear of being inadequate >_>

No, the fear of being inadequate is the fear of knowing you will never amount to anything.

The fear of knowing you're powerful beyond measure, but won't live up to that potential is quite different. It's not that you're inadequate, it's that you won't make the most of what you could potentially achieve.

It's the difference between fearing you're a nugget of copper (ultimately worthless no matter how hard you strive to better yourself) and fearing you're a piece of unrefined platinum that will never see the light of day, and thus never become a beautiful piece of jewelry because no one took the time to dig you up and refine you.
 

grumble

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No, the fear of being inadequate is the fear of knowing you will never amount to anything.

The fear of knowing you're powerful beyond measure, but won't live up to that potential is quite different. It's not that you're inadequate, it's that you won't make the most of what you could potentially achieve.

It's the difference between fearing you're a nugget of copper (ultimately worthless no matter how hard you strive to better yourself) and fearing you're a piece of unrefined platinum that will never see the light of day, and thus never become a beautiful piece of jewelry because no one took the time to dig you up and refine you.

Worthless vs. Wasted.

I get the interpretation, but I still think it's a pretty weak motivational line, despite sounding dramatic.
 
No, the fear of being inadequate is the fear of knowing you will never amount to anything.

The fear of knowing you're powerful beyond measure, but won't live up to that potential is quite different. It's not that you're inadequate, it's that you won't make the most of what you could potentially achieve.

It's the difference between fearing you're a nugget of copper (ultimately worthless no matter how hard you strive to better yourself) and fearing you're a piece of unrefined platinum that will never see the light of day, and thus never become a beautiful piece of jewelry because no one took the time to dig you up and refine you.

yeah, you're talking about fear of not living up to potential, that is still fear of being inadequate. we fear we are inadequate to reach our full potential.

your ambition, not fear, is to reach power beyond measure, to reach your potential.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
yeah, you're talking about fear of not living up to potential, that is still fear of being inadequate. we fear we are inadequate to reach our full potential.

your ambition, not fear, is to reach power beyond measure, to reach your potential.

They aren't the same thing, but I'm not going to reiterate.
 
They aren't the same thing, but I'm not going to reiterate.

i understand now. still think its kinda weak tho >_>

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btw, is it possible to get built/ripped just by working out at home, using dumbells and a traedmill?

what are the best exercises for free weight dumbells for arms?
 

mr2xxx

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Creatine recommendations? I'm going to the store later and buy some but like most supplements the suppliers add a ton of shit to it and I have no idea what is good and what is marketing. I was planning on taking a regular creatine monohydrate and drink some apple juice with it after a workout. But you have some that already has all the sugars and other with different types of creatine, whats good?
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Anyone else just doing Calisthenics?

I started doing the Convict Conditioning program...and adding in some gymnastics type stuff with it mostly the balance related work...

I've put on so much more muscle than any weight training I ever did and I'm more ripped. It's truly shocking to me and my friends.

My back is so damn strong now...even my left knee that plagued me with pains and aches for years has all but disappeared and I had physio on it which did next to nothing.

So happy...just wanted to share my happiness...

Yup. Been doing nothing but calisthenics for almost a year now and I'm stronger and in better shape than I ever was, even when I was lifting heavy. I have a naturally small build, so bodyweight routines are perfect for me. Hell, just today I spent nearly three hours doing various exercises at the park because it was so beautiful out. I'd never DREAM of spending that much time at the gym.

Did a cool 25-minute cycle today that consisted of:

50 pull-ups
100 push-ups
100 front lever bicycle kicks hanging from the pull-up bar
80 dips
45 one-legged squats

Killer workout. This was on top of all the other shit I was practicing on, like muscle-ups, handstands, and flags.
 

lenovox1

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No one ever answered my question! ;(

Is there a better thread?

Your "What's the ideal body weight for a guy my height?" question? That was most definitely answered (and even EviLore weighed in), but honestly that's going to depend on what you eat, how you train, your body type, your ideal body type, your current physical/mental/emotional state, etc.

And as teenager, the sky's the limit for you. Unless you're an aspiring pro weighlifter or you're involved in a sport where you need to make weight, don't focus too much on the scale. Find other goals. The scale is just one of the many tools with which you can measure progress with, but it's most certainly never the be-all end-all when it comes to general fitness.

And, no matter what, you should maintain a balanced routine. I'm sure you're not satisfied with the way your upper body looks right now, but you don't want to be the guy with a bloated upper body supports by two flamingo's legs. The OP of this thread offers a number of tremendous resources. Again, if you're unfamiliar with the gym, start with the beginner's routine as outlined by the OP. And be mindful of form and safety (not the amount of weight you can lift) when first starting out.
 
Creatine recommendations? I'm going to the store later and buy some but like most supplements the suppliers add a ton of shit to it and I have no idea what is good and what is marketing. I was planning on taking a regular creatine monohydrate and drink some apple juice with it after a workout. But you have some that already has all the sugars and other with different types of creatine, whats good?

Just go with the pure creatine. It's cheaper and has more creatine. I bought this last week. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013OXD38/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 

Horse Detective

Why the long case?
Your "What's the ideal body weight for a guy my height?" question? That was most definately answered (and even EviLore weighed in), but honestly that's going to depend on what you eat, how you train, your body type, your ideal body type, your current physical/mental/emotional state, etc.

And as teenager, the sky's the limit for you. Unless you're an aspiring pro weighlifter or you're involved in a sport where you need to make weight, don't focus too much on the scale. Find other goals. The scale is just one of the many tools with which you can measure progress with, but it's most certainly never the be-all end-all when it comes to general fitness.

Oh sorry, I must have missed the posts. I am 18, by the way.

Just trying to be more fit/toned. It would not be a massive transition from where I am currently at, I just came here to ask for an ideal workout regiment, since I have gym equipment at my apartment complex.
 
Oh sorry, I must have missed the posts. I am 18, by the way.

Just trying to be more fit/toned. It would not be a massive transition from where I am currently at, I just came here to ask for an ideal workout regiment, since I have gym equipment at my apartment complex.

it is not easy to put on a lot of muscle so you would not change from your current body very easily. Keep a maintainable diet and don't be afraid of lifting weights.
 

Horse Detective

Why the long case?
it is not easy to put on a lot of muscle so you would not change from your current body very easily. Keep a maintainable diet and don't be afraid of lifting weights.

I lift weights currently, but the workout is usually a random assortment of using different things, I am not quite sure what each does... I would just like to make my process a little more uniform.
 

Izick

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I lift weights currently, but the workout is usually a random assortment of using different things, I am not quite sure what each does... I would just like to make my process a little more uniform.

Do you go to a gym? More likely than not, there should be a little sticker somewhere on the machines that show you what muscle-group(s) you are using for said exercise.
 
Anybody have a good recommendation for seasoning chicken breast. It's a great healthy source of protein as you all know, but I can't stand eating it plain. So what you guys(if any of you guys do it) do to season or improve the taste of chicken breast, but keep it as healthy as possible?
 
Creatine recommendations? I'm going to the store later and buy some but like most supplements the suppliers add a ton of shit to it and I have no idea what is good and what is marketing. I was planning on taking a regular creatine monohydrate and drink some apple juice with it after a workout. But you have some that already has all the sugars and other with different types of creatine, whats good?

There should be no creating sources with sugars. You're probably looking at a mix they theyll sell for a lot

Stick to plain old creative mono
 

Kwhit10

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Anybody have a good recommendation for seasoning chicken breast. It's a great healthy source of protein as you all know, but I can't stand eating it plain. So what you guys(if any of you guys do it) do to season or improve the taste of chicken breast, but keep it as healthy as possible?

Find these Goya marinades. They are godly for flavor.

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kylej

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Maybe the thread title should be changed to Fitness |OT3| READ THE OP!

No because then they'll read the OP but still think they're beautiful unique little snowflakes who think the regular tried, true, and safe techniques for getting fit don't apply to them.

See also: Crossfit.
 

Izick

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YOU GUYS ARE BEING ELITIST. I WANT TONES AND CUTS FOR THE BEACH DURING SUMMER. DON'T JUDGE ME.

Psh, people don't workout to look good! They work out to have as much raw power available for when they need it, for example when they...um they are....when they bring....um...
 

Bit-Bit

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Anyone else just doing Calisthenics?

I started doing the Convict Conditioning program...and adding in some gymnastics type stuff with it mostly the balance related work...

I've put on so much more muscle than any weight training I ever did and I'm more ripped. It's truly shocking to me and my friends.

My back is so damn strong now...even my left knee that plagued me with pains and aches for years has all but disappeared and I had physio on it which did next to nothing.

So happy...just wanted to share my happiness...

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. Did the Starting Strength Routine for a year and wasn't really achieving the results I wanted. (Mostly because of diet) Though I was getting stronger, it wasn't the body type that I wanted to look.

Then started calisthenics in the beginning of this year and now I feel like a beast. Visually I'm not quite there yet, but I'm actually seeing the sort of results I've been looking for. My next step is to add a weighted vest and still try and maintain the high reps.

Though I'm still looking to buy a squat rack. There's nothing quite like squatting that heavy weight.
 
Best way to improve your grip during deadlifts is to just do more deadlifts, right? I was thinking i could do farmers walks or something, but im not sure if doing them with dumbbells that are perhaps 1/3th or 1/2th of my deadlift weight will really help.
 

rando14

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Best way to improve your grip during deadlifts is to just do more deadlifts, right? I was thinking i could do farmers walks or something, but im not sure if doing them with dumbbells that are perhaps 1/3th or 1/2th of my deadlift weight will really help.

Chinups/pullups, deadhangs, farmers walks etc. For deadlifts specifically, I trained myself to use double overhand as much as possible until I get to my highest weights. Then I use chalk. Never gloves, never straps.
 

Mr.City

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Best way to improve your grip during deadlifts is to just do more deadlifts, right? I was thinking i could do farmers walks or something, but im not sure if doing them with dumbbells that are perhaps 1/3th or 1/2th of my deadlift weight will really help.

Are you running into grip problems now?
 

MjFrancis

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I dig the NOV shirt, Shogun.

Also, ab work should be done religiously regardless of belt or not, having a stronger core is like having a stronger back, it can't get too strong.
Agreed, strength in these areas can't ever be overemphasized so far as I am concerned. Unlike the abdominals, though, there is also no such thing as building back muscles that are too large. :p

Though by "religiously" I would emphasize to any novice reading that this doesn't validate your high-rep crunch routine. Train the abdominals and lower back with the same intensity as you would your squat and your deadlift. Profit.

Best way to improve your grip during deadlifts is to just do more deadlifts, right? I was thinking i could do farmers walks or something, but im not sure if doing them with dumbbells that are perhaps 1/3th or 1/2th of my deadlift weight will really help.
There is some carryover with lighter weights, though no getting around deadlifting for reps with as high a weight as you can tolerate the double-overhand grip. I agree with rando14's suggestions. Farmer's walks, bar hangs, chins and pull-ups for reps and shoulder shrugs are all great accessory work for improving grip strength. Make double-overhand the priority, switch only when absolutely necessary. I also don't bounce my reps, for whatever that's worth.

I don't do farmer's walks nearly as much as I want to, but for more information in this regard I'll refer you to two T-Nation pieces on the subject:

Quantifying the Farmer's Walk
The Secret of Loaded Carries
 

despire

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Best way to improve your grip during deadlifts is to just do more deadlifts, right? I was thinking i could do farmers walks or something, but im not sure if doing them with dumbbells that are perhaps 1/3th or 1/2th of my deadlift weight will really help.

One thing I heard recently and something you might want to consider is just to stay in the lockout position gripping the bar for 10 seconds or so during your last rep in deadlifts. One guy at Fitocracy claimed this has helped his grip and I've been trying it also recently. Anyway it's worth a try since it takes hardly any time to stand for 10s longer :)
 
yea i don't know what the fuck i was talking about jumping rope without the rope ain't shit compared to the real thing i just killed myself ugh
 
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