Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Mr. Snrub said:Am I going fucking nuts or is that a really bad head photoshop?
Twins?
New page /flex.
Mr. Snrub said:Am I going fucking nuts or is that a really bad head photoshop?
Alienshogun said:Twins?
New page /flex.
Anything is possible my friend.Mr. Snrub said:Twins with the exact same smile, eyes, and hairline? Maybe I am going insane.
Alienshogun said:Holy hell, I think I overdid it on deadlift today, I just wanted to keep going till I couldn't anymore.
Back is sore as all hell, someone come rub it.
Luscious LeftFoot said:Do you have a foamroller? Get one, works wonders after heavy deads.
Be careful when foam rolling your lumbar spine. It can help, but if you feel anything beyond moderate pain, it's time to stop. That being said, foam rolling is probably the second best item I've ever bought thanks to how effectively it reduced my hip, knee and lower back pain.Alienshogun said:I'll be honest, I need to google it.
Edit: gonna get one, thanks for the tip.
Alienshogun said:I'll be honest, I need to google it.
Edit: gonna get one, thanks for the tip.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28864141&postcount=1086Alienshogun said:I'll be honest, I need to google it.
Edit: gonna get one, thanks for the tip.
Awesome. Pics?Saadster said:So today I have run out of weights on my home barbell set. So that's a problem, because I don't know how I'll progress. So guess what genius me did! I took two buckets, put 2.5 pound dumbbells in them and hung them on the barbell. Like a boss. (Probably extremely dangerous).
parrotbeak said:Awesome. Pics?
X-Frame said:I need to upgrade my foam roller. At first it hurt like a mother but now I can pretty much withstand any amount of pressure during any movements. I've moved onto single-leg only too recently but now it's quickly become too easy.
I need like a wooden cylinder now.
Price Dalton said:
Mr. Snrub said:Fitness GAF, let's start a G+ Circle for info sharing: http://gplus.to/MrSnrub
That looks completely safe and very innovative.Saadster said:http://i56.tinypic.com/2lv0ls2.jpg
Excuse my messy basement. Two more plates went on the sides of the buckets, to "Secure" them. Extra awesome is that the buckets are arm and hammer, motivation breh.
Check the OT but one of the biggest features is that you can make different circles of people to share specific information with. Its very intuitive, I like it. There are a few GAF groups.Price Dalton said:How does this work?
I'm pretty sore from my first Crossfit workout today.parrotbeak said:I started using a tennis ball on my feet, legs, shoulders, and upper back. Holy crap, it hurts so much yet feels so good.
My legs are really sore after jumping back into 5x5 squats and stair runs this week. Might treat myself to an ice bath before going out tonight.
parrotbeak said:That looks completely safe and very innovative.
The only thing is that it looks like the post on your left might get in the way if you need to do the "roll bar to hips and deadlift" to escape from a failed bench. And if you dump you might hit the water heater on your right.
X-Frame said:Yeah, forgot about PVC pipe.
HOLY HELL that Rumble Roller looks like medieval torture.
Alienshogun said:Curious how people feel about running around leg day.
I've always heard not to run before leg day, not running during leg day would also seem to be a no brainer. What about the day after? I would assume that day needs to be left for your legs to "rest," but I don't want to go 3 days without running.
Looking for some insight.
Maxim726X said:Personally, I don't think running before leg day is a sin. If you're used to running it shouldn't be that much of an issue. But running the day of and the day after kills me... I have a hard time standing the day after a leg workout.
Alienshogun said:I don't even know what to think of that thing.
On the issue of these rollers, do they really hurt that much?
I'm watching youtube of people using them, and I can't see how it would hurt, hell, I don't even see how it works!
Mr. Snrub said:Check the OT but one of the biggest features is that you can make different circles of people to share specific information with. Its very intuitive, I like it. There are a few GAF groups.
I generally don't do serious runs on lift days (I work my legs one way or the other every time I go to the gym).Alienshogun said:Curious how people feel about running around leg day.
I've always heard not to run before leg day, not running during leg day would also seem to be a no brainer. What about the day after? I would assume that day needs to be left for your legs to "rest," but I don't want to go 3 days without running.
Looking for some insight.
Alienshogun said:Yeah, there's no way I could run today, it would be like running with granite slapped to my legs.
I'll just go back to running the day before leg day.
I'll just go to the gym and do shoulders today.
Jason's Ultimatum said:Yeah. There's no way I'm doing any kinds of snatches, cleans, etc. I tried doing them and being tall and realizing I'm not that flexible makes me look stupid. Hell, I even tried just keeping the bar with no weights above my head and doing squats to practice, but it was fucking HARD to lower myself. I couldn't even go parallel.
Oh well. I still have squats and deadlifts. Good enough for me.
GiJoccin said:i don't usually pay attention to when leg day is. i definitely won't run right after doing legs, but i grit my teeth and do the run the day after (yeah, my legs feel like stone, but that feeling fades once you get into it, just don't plan on having an up to par run), and if i'm running the day before, i make it a light run.
Jason's Ultimatum said:Yeah. There's no way I'm doing any kinds of snatches, cleans, etc. I tried doing them and being tall and realizing I'm not that flexible makes me look stupid. Hell, I even tried just keeping the bar with no weights above my head and doing squats to practice, but it was fucking HARD to lower myself. I couldn't even go parallel.
Oh well. I still have squats and deadlifts. Good enough for me.
Maxim726X said:Yeah, there's just so much that can go wrong with those exercises, and it has a lot of moving parts... Too risky, unless you play a sport in which explosiveness is important.
Chichikov said:I generally don't do serious runs on lift days (I work my legs one way or the other every time I go to the gym).
I used to be able to do it when I was younger, but the older I get, the more recovery time I need.
But in a more general sense, it all depends on your goals.
Running and lifting is not as mutual exclusive as most people think, but at the end of the day, they are competing for the same headroom under the overtraining bar.
But in my mind, for most people looking to improve their general fitness (as oppose to training for a weightlifting meet or a marathon), running on the off days is fine.
But as always, why don't you just try and see what happens?
Ever person is different (outside Vin Diesel and The Rock, who are the same person, and no amount of fast or fury will persuade me otherwise), just make sure you keep a log of your lifts and your running.
You'll see a pattern emerging one way or the other real quick.
I disagree.Price Dalton said:Yeah. I'd say hang power cleans offer the best reward::risk ratio.
I would consider moving to lifting any other day.Alienshogun said:I don't have "off" days.
My schedual is
Chest, Biceps, Triceps, Back, Legs, Shoulders, Rest.
Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun.
So my "off" day is only sunday, and I'll run on sunday since I don't run after legs.
I run Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Then again on Sunday. I'll probably start running on Thursday now too.
A bit of info, I just recently broke up my schedual from 3 days of 2 parts a day to 1 part a day over 6 days and incorporate running. 2 part days was taking 2 hours a day.
SeanR1221 said:How far/what speed do you run?
Is there a "wrong" speed to be running at post lifting?
Alienshogun said:You don't schedule your workout days?
Chichikov said:I would consider moving to lifting any other day.
It's not impossible to build an effective 6 days a week program, but it can be difficult to train hard like that without risking over-training (though obviously, that varies greatly from person to person).
As for you specific program, I don't have too much first hand experience with that type of a routine (6 days body splits), but it would make sense to me to run on days when you don't work your legs.
But again, I think your bigger concern here is over-training.
If you even remotely half serious about running, you should at the very least log your miles per week.GiJoccin said:i do for lifting, not really for running. i keep that flexible - i need to keep lifting on a set schedule, but i find that running i can do whenever i have time. i lift 4 times per week and run 3+ (usually 4) - so at the very least run on every off day i have.
Don't assume more gym time = better results.Alienshogun said:Yeah, last time I did this routine I over trained, so I need to keep myself reigned in, however, I realize the potential of splitting the way I have to maximize effort for each muscle group (like having a day between bicep and back). Also, as you can see I've got my running schedual revolving around leg day. This was my first week doing this routine since I changed to 2 parts over 3 days and it kicked my ass. It's definitely working me as much as I want it to and it's exhausting, but I think this is the kind of routine I'm going to need to get the results I want. I just (like you said) need to be wary of overdoing it.
Chichikov said:If you even remotely half serious about running, you should at the very least log your miles per week.
Don't assume more gym time = better results.
It's not nearly as simple.
We don't build muscles when we lift, we build muscles when we rest; your body needs that rest.
I think the majority of people will see better strength improvements by lifting every other day.
Though I admit that body splits are not ideal for that type of program, which is another reason why I'm not a huge fan of that approach.
Alienshogun said:I don't have "off" days.
My schedual is
Chest, Biceps, Triceps, Back, Legs, Shoulders, Rest.
Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun.
So my "off" day is only sunday, and I'll run on sunday since I don't run after legs.
I run Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Then again on Sunday. I'll probably start running on Thursday now too.
A bit of info, I just recently broke up my schedual from 3 days of 2 parts a day to 1 part a day over 6 days and incorporate running. 2 part days was taking 2 hours a day.
X-Frame said:What are you goals in terms of lifting?
I never really heard of people spending a day for Biceps, and then another for Triceps -- but then again you are very strong already so just curious.
I figured you'd really excel at something like a Power/Hypertrophy split. i.e. Monday = Upper Power, Tuesday = Lower Power, Rest, Thurs = Upper Hypertrophy, Fri = Lower Hypertrophy, Rest, Rest.
For someone like you who is already very strong, you can throw around a lot of weight for 8-15 reps in the Hypertrophy phase and grow like a weed, and then you have the Power days for weekly PR's.
Well, I don't really run much, but I run stairs and recently hills. When I was accustomed to doing SL5x5 3x a week, I didn't take my stair runs into consideration at all -- would do them before and after squats, even earlier in the day on squat day, and it was no problem.Alienshogun said:Curious how people feel about running around leg day.
I've always heard not to run before leg day, not running during leg day would also seem to be a no brainer. What about the day after? I would assume that day needs to be left for your legs to "rest," but I don't want to go 3 days without running.
Ya dude. I saw your question on jumping, but tbh I have heard so many things, I don't know what is correct. Whenever I've done them with people who do them regularly, it's hard to separate what people think is best because competitive lifters do it that way vs because it's good anatomical form.Jason's Ultimatum said:Yeah. There's no way I'm doing any kinds of snatches, cleans, etc. I tried doing them and being tall and realizing I'm not that flexible makes me look stupid. Hell, I even tried just keeping the bar with no weights above my head and doing squats to practice, but it was fucking HARD to lower myself. I couldn't even go parallel.
That's good to know. I never stopped all cardio, so I don't know what that feels like, but makes sense. I've read that weights are as good for cardio as traditional cardio since your heart doesn't know the difference between lifting weights and moving your body, but you don't breathe heavy (or at all) during heavy lifts so that's not doing anything for conditioning your lungs.reilo said:One bad thing about focusing solely on strength/muscle gains for two months and cutting out all cardio: when you're asked to run 3 sets of 400m, your lung will be done. That's what happened to me today. Rest of my body was fine, but I was exhausted because my lungs hadn't been run through the grinder for two months.
They were on fire. The rest of my body felt fine, but I needed a good 15 minutes to get my second breath. Once I did and my lungs reset a bit, I was able to power through my workout. I imagine that's what smoking for the first time must feel like.parrotbeak said:That's good to know. I never stopped all cardio, so I don't know what that feels like, but makes sense. I've read that weights are as good for cardio as traditional cardio since your heart doesn't know the difference between lifting weights and moving your body, but you don't breathe heavy (or at all) during heavy lifts so that's not doing anything for conditioning your lungs.
I think the best fast conditioning for lungs I can think of is going to the beach, diving for rocks heavy enough to hold you down, and running with them underwater. No above water cardio feels hard after that.
Haha, it's been a long time since I've smoked but ya, iirc the pain from inhaling smoke and from sucking wind in hard cardio is pretty similar.reilo said:They were on fire. The rest of my body felt fine, but I needed a good 15 minutes to get my second breath. Once I did and my lungs reset a bit, I was able to power through my workout. I imagine that's what smoking for the first time must feel like.
It's the same as deep tissue/pressure point massage if you ever got one of those. A really good long session will keep you sore for a while. First time I did the tennis ball on my shoulder and in between my shoulder blades, I think I was sore for a couple of days. Same thing when I got a great pressure point massage from a physical therapist. Feels like DOMS.Alienshogun said:On the issue of these rollers, do they really hurt that much?
I'm watching youtube of people using them, and I can't see how it would hurt, hell, I don't even see how it works!
Did he use the barbell to do curls?Luscious LeftFoot said:I find that post about starting strength and similar programs being geared towards the arnold wannabe's amusing.... if anything my body type is much closer to the "abercrombie model" than a bodybuilder.
Infact one of the draw backs to being relatively small compared to the weights I put up, is the lack of proper gym etiquette or respect some of these bigger guys show.
The other day, I was doing deadlifts and warming up at 175lb, guy comes up to me and ask how many sets i have left. No big deal, I tell him i'm just starting out, and i'll be here for a while. So 5 mins later, I'm at 2-something guy comes back again with his buddy now, asks again how many sets I have left. Slightly annoyed, I tell him again I still have a few more to go.
Would you believe this motherfucker came back a third time in a span of maybe 20mins? Of course at this point I was preparing to lift 405 and he didnt say anything, just kind of stood there wide eyed as I repped out.
I was so annoyed, I didn`t even bother to unrack the weight, just said here you go, and walked off.
Luscious LeftFoot said:I find that post about starting strength and similar programs being geared towards the arnold wannabe's amusing.... if anything my body type is much closer to the "abercrombie model" than a bodybuilder.
Infact one of the draw backs to being relatively small compared to the weights I put up, is the lack of proper gym etiquette or respect some of these bigger guys show.
The other day, I was doing deadlifts and warming up at 175lb, guy comes up to me and ask how many sets i have left. No big deal, I tell him i'm just starting out, and i'll be here for a while. So 5 mins later, I'm at 2-something guy comes back again with his buddy now, asks again how many sets I have left. Slightly annoyed, I tell him again I still have a few more to go.
Would you believe this motherfucker came back a third time in a span of maybe 20mins? Of course at this point I was preparing to lift 405 and he didnt say anything, just kind of stood there wide eyed as I repped out.
I was so annoyed, I didn`t even bother to unrack the weight, just said here you go, and walked off.
I see no reason to get worked out over any of that.Luscious LeftFoot said:I find that post about starting strength and similar programs being geared towards the arnold wannabe's amusing.... if anything my body type is much closer to the "abercrombie model" than a bodybuilder.
Infact one of the draw backs to being relatively small compared to the weights I put up, is the lack of proper gym etiquette or respect some of these bigger guys show.
The other day, I was doing deadlifts and warming up at 175lb, guy comes up to me and ask how many sets i have left. No big deal, I tell him i'm just starting out, and i'll be here for a while. So 5 mins later, I'm at 2-something guy comes back again with his buddy now, asks again how many sets I have left. Slightly annoyed, I tell him again I still have a few more to go.
Would you believe this motherfucker came back a third time in a span of maybe 20mins? Of course at this point I was preparing to lift 405 and he didnt say anything, just kind of stood there wide eyed as I repped out.
I was so annoyed, I didn`t even bother to unrack the weight, just said here you go, and walked off.
Luscious LeftFoot said:I find that post about starting strength and similar programs being geared towards the arnold wannabe's amusing.... if anything my body type is much closer to the "abercrombie model" than a bodybuilder.
Infact one of the draw backs to being relatively small compared to the weights I put up, is the lack of proper gym etiquette or respect some of these bigger guys show.
The other day, I was doing deadlifts and warming up at 175lb, guy comes up to me and ask how many sets i have left. No big deal, I tell him i'm just starting out, and i'll be here for a while. So 5 mins later, I'm at 2-something guy comes back again with his buddy now, asks again how many sets I have left. Slightly annoyed, I tell him again I still have a few more to go.
Would you believe this motherfucker came back a third time in a span of maybe 20mins? Of course at this point I was preparing to lift 405 and he didnt say anything, just kind of stood there wide eyed as I repped out.
I was so annoyed, I didn`t even bother to unrack the weight, just said here you go, and walked off.
deadbeef said:Come on man...