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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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Bearded Dudebro said:
I'm just starting out with them, so It's very possible I haven't nailed the form yet. And honestly, my quads were killing me the first couple times I worked them. You know that initial soreness after working out a muscle you haven't worked in a while. It's hard not to focus on that ache. I was still able to complete the exercise in a controlled fashion, though. I should be able to keep my form under scrutiny.
If you're quads were hurting, it may be that you just need to get stronger doing body weight first. The quads are usually the hardest thing to make sore doing squats, at least for me. Usually my hips get sore first, and then maybe my hams if I haven't done them in a while. I need assistance work to get my quads near hypertrophy.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Man, the golds gym in charleston south Carolina is way nicer than the one at home. They even have climbing ropes in the weight room attached to the celing the only bad thing was they only had 1 squat rack and 1 power cage. But a ton an I mean a ton of sexy ladies. Going back again Wednesday for sure!!!!
 

Veezy

que?
Harry Potter said:
Any recommendations on how to make stretch marks less visible?
Tanning, skin darkening lotion, and working out. Impossible to get rid off for good, without surgery. Little story, if you're board:

Back in my bodybuilding days I did an eight week cycle of D-Bol and Anadrol, not including PCT. Got up to 220 lbs at 15% bodyweight. I'm 5'10, so I was huge. Like most body builders just getting big to get laid, cause I was stupid back then, I spent a lot of time on my upper body. My chest was massive. Still is, despite not being on any chems. I'm a sexy man, don't let anybody tell you that you can't keep your gains, if you're smart. (EDIT: I'm down to 180 and still at 15%, I'm not that big anymore. I did keep it aroud 210 for a while)

Anyways, I got these stretch marks right under the front of my armpit under both arms. Impossible to see with my arms down and difficult to spot otherwise. The only way I've found to obscure them is tanning. Yes, it's quite body builderish, but that's how they get rid of the problem, too. If you don't want to tan, you can try using a skin darkening lotion.

They look better now than they did when I first got them, and keeping my chest and lats built keeps them pretty well hidden, but they'll always be there. If you work out and darken your skin a bit they'll fade out some and look smoother, but the skin damage will always be done.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
Hey guys. Question about rest periods between workouts.

What would be the optimal rest day ratio for every workout? I do the same routines each workout. Is it every other day? Or is it suggested that I workout multiple continuous days and then take a day off between sets. Ive been working out for quite some time but i never really respected the idea that my muscles are building while healing on rest days.

I just started whey protein about a week and a half ago and im already seeing some slight effects. I basically just want to maximize muscle growth.
 
twofold said:
If anyone needs a pair of weightlifting shoes, it's super cheap to buy a pair directly from the do-win factory in China. I got a pair for $32 delivered - absolute bargain.

Send an email to do-win@263.net and they'll let you know what shoes/sizes are available.
Which model did you order?
 
Start off just doing squats with your body weight, then move up to squatting just the bar. I had to start off like that to improve my flexibility. I still start my Squat warmups with bar/95/135 to get up to the range of motion I want for squats.

Nothing makes you feel better than a workup of heavy squats with good form.
 

JB1981

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So I bought some swim goggles and swim at the pool at my LA Fitness tonight. I am an OK swimmer but have never had any real lessons. I ran into this guy who was using one of the other lanes and he gave some pretty good tips on how to breathe during a freestyle swim. I really enjoyed it and I ended each lap breathing hard as hell. My cardio has suffered for a while and I want to focus on greater lung capacity and overall cardiovascular conditioning. Anyone else here swim?
 
I keep getting conficting results when it comes to chicken and cancer causing agents. Grilled chicken causes carcinogens when it gets burnt, and cooking chicken in temperatures over 350 degrees isn't safe. Other studies have linked to eating boneless skinless chicken breasts bring healthy and reduces cancer.

I eat my boneless skinless chicken breasts with olive oil, basil, paprika, and oregano. I cook it at over 350 degrees (425 degrees for 30 minutes to be exact) .

I would love to continue eating two chicken breasts a day, but the HCAs is what has me worried.
 

JB1981

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Jason's Ultimatum said:
I keep getting conficting results when it comes to chicken and cancer causing agents. Grilled chicken causes carcinogens when it gets burnt, and cooking chicken in temperatures over 350 degrees isn't safe. Other studies have linked to eating boneless skinless chicken breasts bring healthy and reduces cancer.

I eat my boneless skinless chicken breasts with olive oil, basil, paprika, and oregano. I cook it at over 350 degrees (425 degrees for 30 minutes to be exact) .

I would love to continue eating two chicken breasts a day, but the HCAs is what has me worried.

can you please explain to me what you mean by two chicken breasts? do you literally mean like two single breasts of chicken?
 

kehs

Banned
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I keep getting conficting results when it comes to chicken and cancer causing agents. Grilled chicken causes carcinogens when it gets burnt, and cooking chicken in temperatures over 350 degrees isn't safe. Other studies have linked to eating boneless skinless chicken breasts bring healthy and reduces cancer.

I eat my boneless skinless chicken breasts with olive oil, basil, paprika, and oregano. I cook it at over 350 degrees (425 degrees for 30 minutes to be exact) .

I would love to continue eating two chicken breasts a day, but the HCAs is what has me worried.

Cooking chicken above 350 isn't safe....wut?
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I keep getting conficting results when it comes to chicken and cancer causing agents. Grilled chicken causes carcinogens when it gets burnt, and cooking chicken in temperatures over 350 degrees isn't safe. Other studies have linked to eating boneless skinless chicken breasts bring healthy and reduces cancer.

I eat my boneless skinless chicken breasts with olive oil, basil, paprika, and oregano. I cook it at over 350 degrees (425 degrees for 30 minutes to be exact) .

I would love to continue eating two chicken breasts a day, but the HCAs is what has me worried.
are they still frozen when you cook them for 30 minutes? I cook chicken breasts around 400 for just over 20 minutes if they're totally unthawed and 25ish minutes if they're frozen in the middle.
 

JB1981

Member
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Two boneless skinless chicken breasts that comes in a package at a grocery store. Don't know what you're trying to get at.
Ok. I am just surprised that you think that is a lot of chicken. I had 4 chicken breasts tonight just for dinner. I think you are worrying for nothing
 
Copernicus said:
Cooking chicken above 350 isn't safe....wut?

Heterocyclic amines supposedly shows up cooking over 350 degrees.

are they still frozen when you cook them for 30 minutes? I cook chicken breasts around 400 for just over 20 minutes if they're totally unthawed and 25ish minutes if they're frozen in the middle.

Naw, I let them sit out to thaw. I also read that marinating chicken 15 minutes before cooking reduces the HCAs by as much as 90%.

EDIT-Fuck I don't actually grill my chicken. I bake them in the oven.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
JB1981 said:
Ok. I am just surprised that you think that is a lot of chicken. I had 4 chicken breasts tonight just for dinner. I think you are worrying for nothing

Anorexic chicken?

If anyone needs a pair of weightlifting shoes, it's super cheap to buy a pair directly from the do-win factory in China. I got a pair for $32 delivered - absolute bargain.

Send an email to do-win@263.net and they'll let you know what shoes/sizes are available.

Thanks for that. Visited their website and I might order another pair. I paid over $100 for my Do-Wins...
 
JB1981 said:
Ok. I am just surprised that you think that is a lot of chicken. I had 4 chicken breasts tonight just for dinner. I think you are worrying for nothing
That's a lot of chicken man....I've heard that eating that much protein at once is not good for you since your body just can't digest/metabolize it that fast
 

kehs

Banned
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Heterocyclic amines supposedly shows up cooking over 350 degrees.

Just did some light reading over it......don't think it's something to worry about, unless your straight bbqing your chicken to leather for every meal you really shouldn't worry about that.


What you should be worried about is the amount of protein your forcing your body to deal with it.
 
Yeah. I'd love to see a long-term study conducted on athletes/bodybuilders who ate more than one chicken breast a day to see if there were any health related issues from eating them.

What you should be worried about is the amount of protein your forcing your body to deal with it.

I don't eat both at the same time. I eat one for lunch and another in the late afternoon. Hell, I probably only eat around 150g of protein or a bit more a day. Plus, I drink plenty of water a day.
 

balddemon

Banned
JB1981 said:
So I bought some swim goggles and swim at the pool at my LA Fitness tonight. I am an OK swimmer but have never had any real lessons. I ran into this guy who was using one of the other lanes and he gave some pretty good tips on how to breathe during a freestyle swim. I really enjoyed it and I ended each lap breathing hard as hell. My cardio has suffered for a while and I want to focus on greater lung capacity and overall cardiovascular conditioning. Anyone else here swim?


I'm about to start, but it will be short lived since I don't want to pay 40 bucks a month to use a pool.....especially since I work at a gym. For now I'm just going to live off guest passes I get from my friends that work there haha. I've got decent form for the freestyle, and I might try to teach myself the breaststroke and fly since I've learned the basics for those strokes previously.
 

JB1981

Member
MrToughPants said:
Anorexic chicken?



Thanks for that. Visited their website and I might order another pair. I paid over $100 for my Do-Wins...
I don't get it. When I grill chicken I usually buy a pack of perdue breasts. Are you guys telling me that two chicken breasts is a lot to you, particularly if you are training ? WTF
 
I normally eat 4 or 5 meals a day. Each consisting of a protein combined with either vegetables, carbs, or some healthy fats.

I would say on average I eat 2-3 6 oz. chicken breasts per day. The other proteins usually consist of some combination of tuna, cottage cheese, and a post or pre workout whey shake
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
JB1981 said:
I don't get it. When I grill chicken I usually buy a pack of perdue breasts. Are you guys telling me that two chicken breasts is a lot to you, particularly if you are training ? WTF

You're probably eating tiny chicken breasts if you eat four in one meal. I have a pack in the fridge that is 1.2kg and has 5 breasts.
 
I eat every 2 to 3 hours throughout the day, am never full and never hungry. Diet usually consists of protein, carbs, fruits, vegetables.

Couple of questions. What kind of proteins do y'all take here? I'm taking this for now and so far I'm happy with it, the taste is not horrible (I bought vanilla flavor) and it's quick to make on the blender of even just stirring between 2 cups. Also, what's a good belt for weighted dips? This looks good, but I was hoping to find something for like 20 bucks tops.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
A boneless skinless chicken breast at a store sold individually is a good .5-.7lbs.
 

abuC

Member
Just got back from my ride, it went well but I got punked. I was riding up a hill and about 10 feet in front of me I saw something out the corner of my eye, it was a skunk stomping on the ground with his tail high looking me in dead in the face. He/she was getting ready to turn, do a headstand and spray me, I said "oohhhhh shiiit" hit my brakes hard and went to the middle of the street. That little bastard scared the shit out of me, now all future rides will have me paranoid.


Oh another note, how accurate is Endomondo in regards to calories burned? It said I burned 1600 or so, I did about 22 miles at 12mph, and I weigh 255lbs.
 
MrToughPants said:
Anorexic chicken?



Thanks for that. Visited their website and I might order another pair. I paid over $100 for my Do-Wins...
Dear OpinionatedCyborg,

In currently, we no have online sale for foreign market, all for order produce
outside of China, would you please contact to Do-win agent in Amercia:
www.muscledriver.com

TKS
I dunno if that means they've stopped selling internationally permanently or just temporarily... I would've loved a pair of these shoes for 32 bucks with shipping included (even if the build quality is a little shoddy).
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Strange...thought I posted in this thread, but apparently I didn't.


I need some suggestions for some good, high calorie foods to gain mass.
 

SeanR1221

Member
I think I might start cutting.

I'll keep my calories pretty low (but still high protein, low carb) and change my gym routine into...

- Chest/Tris
- Back/Bis
- Legs/Shoulders

with 2-3 days of Hiit peppered in.
 

X-Frame

Member
SeanR1221 said:
I think I might start cutting.

I'll keep my calories pretty low (but still high protein, low carb) and change my gym routine into...

- Chest/Tris
- Back/Bis
- Legs/Shoulders

with 2-3 days of Hiit peppered in.
Make sure you drop some volume in your routine, keep reps low (3-8) and continue to pursue strength gains and new records. Best way to maintain or even gain muscle on a cut, not the dumb circuit/high rep stuff people usually start doing with their cuts.

Also, 2-3 days of HIIT seems excessive on low calories. I'd drop all HIIT and instead do some brisk walking at an incline for 30-40 minutes a couple times a week. Low-intensity cardio spares muscle.
 

MjFrancis

Member
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I keep getting conficting results when it comes to chicken and cancer causing agents. Grilled chicken causes carcinogens when it gets burnt, and cooking chicken in temperatures over 350 degrees isn't safe. Other studies have linked to eating boneless skinless chicken breasts bring healthy and reduces cancer.

I eat my boneless skinless chicken breasts with olive oil, basil, paprika, and oregano. I cook it at over 350 degrees (425 degrees for 30 minutes to be exact) .

I would love to continue eating two chicken breasts a day, but the HCAs is what has me worried.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cooked-meats

Studies have shown that exposure to HCAs and PAHs can cause cancer in animal models (6). In many experiments, rodents fed a diet supplemented with HCAs developed tumors of the breast, colon, liver, skin, lung, prostate, and other organs (7–12). Rodents fed PAHs also developed cancers, including leukemia and tumors of the gastrointestinal tract and lungs (13). However, the doses of HCAs and PAHs used in these studies were very high—equivalent to thousands of times the doses that a person would consume in a normal diet.

I would like to know what you're reading, since figuring out that cancer rates in rats coincide with radical doses of HCAs and PAHs isn't that frightening. If anything I would figure that more people here would be worried about the nitrates in bacon or preworkoout supplements. There's studies that link nitrates to cancer you know.

But really now, Jason. Are you going to wall yourself off from every little thing that may cause cancer? I read that promiscuity and television cause cancer in trying to find some links that connected HCAs to cancer in humans. Are you going to stop being a sexual tyrannosaurus who surfs the internet just because I found some correlations between those activities and cancer? I wouldn't worry about it just yet. Unless, of course, you start consuming does of HCAs proportional to what those poor rats where forced to eat. Like, hundreds of charred chicken breasts every day.
 

snoopen

Member
Oblivion said:
Strange...thought I posted in this thread, but apparently I didn't.


I need some suggestions for some good, high calorie foods to gain mass.
Peanut butter, Greek yoghurt are good starters.
 

SeanR1221

Member
X-Frame said:
Make sure you drop some volume in your routine, keep reps low (3-8) and continue to pursue strength gains and new records. Best way to maintain or even gain muscle on a cut, not the dumb circuit/high rep stuff people usually start doing with their cuts.

Also, 2-3 days of HIIT seems excessive on low calories. I'd drop all HIIT and instead do some brisk walking at an incline for 30-40 minutes a couple times a week. Low-intensity cardio spares muscle.

Cool, thanks for the advice. Yesterday while doing Chest/Tris, I did less exercise, but the same weight reps as I would before, so glad I did that right.

I was JUST about to leave to do hiit, but I'll do a long, brisk walk, and throw the tunes on :)

Sounds better to me anyway.

After breakfast and lunch I'm at 540 calories, 80g of protein, 30g of carbs and 15g of fat.
 

Casp0r

Banned
So I decided to buy a blender/smoothy maker ...

Holyshit. Before mixing my protein powder in a glass with a spoon took about 5-10 minutes. Now it takes 2 seconds ...

Only problem is I just got back from supermarket, yet I want to try loads of recipes ... but I have none of the ingredients[/whitepeopleproblems].
 

The Lamp

Member
Casp0r said:
So I decided to buy a blender/smoothy maker ...

Holyshit. Before mixing my protein powder in a glass with a spoon took about 5-10 minutes. Now it takes 2 seconds ...

Only problem is I just got back from supermarket, yet I want to try loads of recipes ... but I have none of the ingredients[/whitepeopleproblems].

You mean smoothie recipes?

Here are some good general guidelines:
* Mixing fruit of the same color together is usually a good idea.
* Don't mix citrus fruits (oranges, lemons, tangerines) with things like milk or peanut butter or ice cream.
* When in doubt, strawberry-banana
* Fruits and/or chocolate go amazing with peanut-butter
* For extra calories, add ice cream (and pick a flavor that goes with your fruit/milk/ingredient scheme)
* Always mix from blade to lid (bottom to top) in the order of fruit/solids/liquids, then powder, then ice.
* Don't forget ice.
* If your smoothie is coming out clumpy and watery, try putting in a banana. It usually evens out the texture.
* Try putting things you normally wouldn't eat in smoothies. I hate eating carrots, but they go nicely with fruit smoothies usually.
* Freezing your strawberries or other berries will make them last much longer, and the crunchy/icy texture of the fruit work well when you blend it.
 
I used to eat two chicken breasts a day until I grew an extra nipple. I only had one nipple to start with, so this brought me up to a nice even pair.
Too bad it grew on my forehead.
I'm often seen wearing a hat.
 

Casp0r

Banned
The Lamp said:
You mean smoothie recipes?

Here are some good general guidelines:
* Mixing fruit of the same color together is usually a good idea.
* Don't mix citrus fruits (oranges, lemons, tangerines) with things like milk or peanut butter or ice cream.
* When in doubt, strawberry-banana
* Fruits and/or chocolate go amazing with peanut-butter
* For extra calories, add ice cream (and pick a flavor that goes with your fruit/milk/ingredient scheme)
* Always mix from blade to lid (bottom to top) in the order of fruit/solids/liquids, then powder, then ice.
* Don't forget ice.
* If your smoothie is coming out clumpy and watery, try putting in a banana. It usually evens out the texture.
* Try putting things you normally wouldn't eat in smoothies. I hate eating carrots, but they go nicely with fruit smoothies usually.
* Freezing your strawberries or other berries will make them last much longer, and the crunchy/icy texture of the fruit work well when you blend it.

Hey thanks a lot!

I've been reading loads of different recipes online, however this was way more helpful. I'm going to get some bananas and strawberries to start with.

I'm alittle wary of peanut butter ... is it really that good? I'm not the biggest fan of it in sandwiches, however liquefied it sounds ... interesting ... bah I'll buy some tomorrow and try it anyway.
 

Petrie

Banned
Casp0r said:
I'm alittle wary of peanut butter ... is it really that good? I'm not the biggest fan of it in sandwiches, however liquefied it sounds ... interesting ... bah I'll buy some tomorrow and try it anyway.

Just be sure you get real PB and not that sugar-laden JIF crap.
 
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