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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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Cause it's "I'm better than you for some arbitrary reason" stupidness. Who cares if someone wants to train for pure size, pure strength, or both? Or not train at all. People should be able to do whatever they want to do with their own body without being judged.
entremet
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You're going to get more stabilizer muscle, such as the core and back involved, if you're standing.
I try to avoid sitting down at all for most weighlifting, with the bench variations being the only exception.
Are these things any good? Local shop is getting rid of them for about 50 cents a bar, and they normally go for $2 each, so I thought it'd be worth checking.
Probably full of sugar but for 50 cents a pop who cares.
omega 9 is pointless and omega 6 is detrimental. just get omega 3 and don't take over 3 grams a day.
Are these things any good? Local shop is getting rid of them for about 50 cents a bar, and they normally go for $2 each, so I thought it'd be worth checking.
As far as taste goes, they're not terrible from what I remember.
sebajuNujabes
Member
Cool, thanks for the insight. Once a week, it is.
hawkshockey11
Banned
Are these things any good? Local shop is getting rid of them for about 50 cents a bar, and they normally go for $2 each, so I thought it'd be worth checking.
http://reviews.bodybuilding.com/MetRx/Food_Bars
Lamel
Banned
Alright thank you, I'll head over to the GNC tomorrow and see what they have.
Are these things any good? Local shop is getting rid of them for about 50 cents a bar, and they normally go for $2 each, so I thought it'd be worth checking.
I think they taste pretty good but are probably full of things that aren't good for you.
Fitness candy bar
55g of carbs, but maybe useful for post-workout?
Wow, way too many carbs. Won't even bother then I suppose.
Sure, I eat them if they're on sale. Also good for business trips or times I know it will be almost impossible to get any protein.
That's the only reason I gave them a look. The price is pretty damn good.
Try one and see how they taste.
If it tastes like cardboard, it's still not worth it at 50 cents a pop.
If you need carbs post workout anyway, why not? As long as you're not munching on them all throughout the day seems like an awesome deal.
Lasthope106
Member
Argggg. I'm eating like a mofo, and I'm still hungry. Breakfast, Lunch, Snack, Protein shake, Dinner, Cottage cheese. Is this normal? All my meals have protein, fat, and vegetables.
Looking in the mirror I can already notice a size difference, but I'm still flabby as hell. This bulking phase is really gonna test my patience with putting on even flab, but I'm afraid that if I start out with cutting, I'm gonna be mad at myself later when it's harder to put on muscle cause my body is used to working out again.
Off to the gym!
Off to the gym!
Lamel
Banned
Trust me as you build muscle, your body will take an overall muscular shape, and the flab will be off your mind. And then when you gain a good amount of muscle, you can cut.
cuevas. PhD.
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entremet
Member
Are you doing low carb? I was feeling the same way and took Cuevas advice to add more fat. Its helped ever since.
Damn!
Guh, I did squats again today after a 5 day lay-off from them, and I couldn't go to parallel. My legs are still super sore and I think not healed (from going to exhaustion the last time I did squats). I went to parallel or at least what felt like parallel for 1 rep and I came really close to not coming back up (same weight I did last session going fully down). Should I just do really low weights til they feel healed, or take more time off?
Hey GAF! I'm just checking in here since I'm about to embark on a bulk-up journey, and the information in the OP has been a real help. This post is mostly just to say hi, but I've got some questions for you as well, and any suggestions on what I could add to the workout routine or diet tips would be excellent.
So I went out and bought ten litres of milk to keep at work, and another four for home (I live 5 mins walk from a supermarket, so I can restock regularly) to try the milk diet. I successfully downed my first four litres yesterday, and look set to finish four today, so I'm keen to keep it up and see how my body handles it over the next 2-3 months.
I've also decided to give the beginner routine in the OP a go, though I've actually never done squats or deadlifts before, so I'm looking forward to feeling self-conscious as I try to correct my form.
I have a question : My gym buddy is my brother, and he's not super keen on doing bench presses. He'd prefer to do a dumbbell press instead. Is there much of a difference?
Another question : I've heard a lot about the optimal number of reps and sets. The OT mentions 3 sets of 5, there's the 5x5 program, and I've previously been doing 3 sets of 10. For the majority of exercises, which is best for me, and why?
Age: 24
Height: 5'9
Weight: 70kg
Goal: Me, upscaled by 10-20%. The OT says pick a major and a minor goal, so I'll pick a physical size increase as most important, and strength as secondary.
Current Training Schedule: Haven't put it into practice, but I intend to do the beginner's routine in the OT, at least for the first three months while I'm on the milk diet.
Current Training Equipment Available: Gym membership. I'm pretty sure I'll have access to all the required equipment.
Comments: I'm definitely a skinny dude, but for a skinny dude I feel like I've got an alright starting point. I'd really like to put on a lot of size in my arms and increase the bulk in my chest though, as my arms are pretty damn skinny, and I don't have much of a chest
I've done a lot of running through sport so I've already got comparatively large legs. I don't want to focus exclusively on upper body, but I feel like my legs already get a decent workout.
So I went out and bought ten litres of milk to keep at work, and another four for home (I live 5 mins walk from a supermarket, so I can restock regularly) to try the milk diet. I successfully downed my first four litres yesterday, and look set to finish four today, so I'm keen to keep it up and see how my body handles it over the next 2-3 months.
I've also decided to give the beginner routine in the OP a go, though I've actually never done squats or deadlifts before, so I'm looking forward to feeling self-conscious as I try to correct my form.
I have a question : My gym buddy is my brother, and he's not super keen on doing bench presses. He'd prefer to do a dumbbell press instead. Is there much of a difference?
Another question : I've heard a lot about the optimal number of reps and sets. The OT mentions 3 sets of 5, there's the 5x5 program, and I've previously been doing 3 sets of 10. For the majority of exercises, which is best for me, and why?
Age: 24
Height: 5'9
Weight: 70kg
Goal: Me, upscaled by 10-20%. The OT says pick a major and a minor goal, so I'll pick a physical size increase as most important, and strength as secondary.
Current Training Schedule: Haven't put it into practice, but I intend to do the beginner's routine in the OT, at least for the first three months while I'm on the milk diet.
Current Training Equipment Available: Gym membership. I'm pretty sure I'll have access to all the required equipment.
Comments: I'm definitely a skinny dude, but for a skinny dude I feel like I've got an alright starting point. I'd really like to put on a lot of size in my arms and increase the bulk in my chest though, as my arms are pretty damn skinny, and I don't have much of a chest
I've done a lot of running through sport so I've already got comparatively large legs. I don't want to focus exclusively on upper body, but I feel like my legs already get a decent workout.
entremet
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We told you not to go to failure on the big lifts
Soreness is normal since you haven't been working out, but go to lower weight, but challenging enough weight to get your form right. And don't go to failure on squats, guy.
Are you eating enough? If there's nothing amiss you should probably go down in weight or just stop squatting completely until your legs get back in commission.
Hey GAF! I'm just checking in here since I'm about to embark on a bulk-up journey, and the information in the OP has been a real help. This post is mostly just to say hi, but I've got some questions for you as well, and any suggestions on what I could add to the workout routine or diet tips would be excellent.
So I went out and bought ten litres of milk to keep at work, and another four for home (I live 5 mins walk from a supermarket, so I can restock regularly) to try the milk diet. I successfully downed my first four litres yesterday, and look set to finish four today, so I'm keen to keep it up and see how my body handles it over the next 2-3 months.
I've also decided to give the beginner routine in the OP a go, though I've actually never done squats or deadlifts before, so I'm looking forward to feeling self-conscious as I try to correct my form.
I have a question : My gym buddy is my brother, and he's not super keen on doing bench presses. He'd prefer to do a dumbbell press instead. Is there much of a difference?
Another question : I've heard a lot about the optimal number of reps and sets. The OT mentions 3 sets of 5, there's the 5x5 program, and I've previously been doing 3 sets of 10. For the majority of exercises, which is best for me, and why?
Age: 24
Height: 5'9
Weight: 70kg
Goal: Me, upscaled by 10-20%. The OT says pick a major and a minor goal, so I'll pick a physical size increase as most important, and strength as secondary.
Current Training Schedule: Haven't put it into practice, but I intend to do the beginner's routine in the OT, at least for the first three months while I'm on the milk diet.
Current Training Equipment Available: Gym membership. I'm pretty sure I'll have access to all the required equipment.
Comments: I'm definitely a skinny dude, but for a skinny dude I feel like I've got an alright starting point. I'd really like to put on a lot of size in my arms and increase the bulk in my chest though, as my arms are pretty damn skinny, and I don't have much of a chest
I've done a lot of running through sport so I've already got comparatively large legs. I don't want to focus exclusively on upper body, but I feel like my legs already get a decent workout.
Start with 3x5.
It's the perfect amount to get the most out of noob gains and still build muscle out of 3 main lifts.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
That machine is right near the water fountain at my gym, there's mirrors on the walls and stuff.......... eye's just float up to the ceiling.
Is there any way to calculate what weight I should be doing on each set to get to 5 reps on my last set? On a few excercises of stuff tonight on my final set I ended up doing like 8 or 9 reps to get to almost failure (on last set only, and definitely didn't go this far on squats). Or do I just need to calibrate it over a couple weeks?
No take three.
Welp, let me break it down. Waiting until you're not sore to train is a good way to make sure you're still sore after you train each time. To me, it sounds like you went too heavy with too much volume your first time squatting and are now paying the price.
http://www.70sbig.com/blog/2012/01/the-repeated-bout-effect/
Hey GAF! I'm just checking in here since I'm about to embark on a bulk-up journey, and the information in the OP has been a real help. This post is mostly just to say hi, but I've got some questions for you as well, and any suggestions on what I could add to the workout routine or diet tips would be excellent.
So I went out and bought ten litres of milk to keep at work, and another four for home (I live 5 mins walk from a supermarket, so I can restock regularly) to try the milk diet. I successfully downed my first four litres yesterday, and look set to finish four today, so I'm keen to keep it up and see how my body handles it over the next 2-3 months.
I've also decided to give the beginner routine in the OP a go, though I've actually never done squats or deadlifts before, so I'm looking forward to feeling self-conscious as I try to correct my form.
I have a question : My gym buddy is my brother, and he's not super keen on doing bench presses. He'd prefer to do a dumbbell press instead. Is there much of a difference?
Another question : I've heard a lot about the optimal number of reps and sets. The OT mentions 3 sets of 5, there's the 5x5 program, and I've previously been doing 3 sets of 10. For the majority of exercises, which is best for me, and why?
Age: 24
Height: 5'9
Weight: 70kg
Goal: Me, upscaled by 10-20%. The OT says pick a major and a minor goal, so I'll pick a physical size increase as most important, and strength as secondary.
Current Training Schedule: Haven't put it into practice, but I intend to do the beginner's routine in the OT, at least for the first three months while I'm on the milk diet.
Current Training Equipment Available: Gym membership. I'm pretty sure I'll have access to all the required equipment.
Comments: I'm definitely a skinny dude, but for a skinny dude I feel like I've got an alright starting point. I'd really like to put on a lot of size in my arms and increase the bulk in my chest though, as my arms are pretty damn skinny, and I don't have much of a chest
I've done a lot of running through sport so I've already got comparatively large legs. I don't want to focus exclusively on upper body, but I feel like my legs already get a decent workout.
1. Do a barbell bench press. It's much easier to load
2. You're 5'9 and weigh 154 lbs. Don't worry about upper/ lower body right now.
3. Running and squatting/deadlifting are two different animals.
4. Do 3x5. 5 is a good number that encourages strength and size gains. Strength is going to be vital for you because you're mostly likely very weak. If you don't know how to squat/deadlift, Starting Strength 3rd edtion is available on the Kindle for $10.
You may wish to come up with some programming and a distinct purpose for each movement. Resistance training all abides by the same principles whether that resistance is a barbell, a kettlebell, or just your bodyweight.
Here's a sample program from the Convict Conditioning Super FAQ:
Good Behavior 2.0
MONDAY:
PUSHUPS 2 WORK SETS
LEG RAISES: 2 WORK SETS
TUESDAY:
PULLUPS 2 WORK SETS
SQUATS: 2 WORK SETS
WEDNESDAY:
HS PUSHUPS 2-3 WORK SETS
BRIDGES: 2-3 WORK SETS
Repeat Mon - Wed from Thurs - Sat and take Sunday off.
The idea isn't far off from a bodybuilding split here, but the emphasis is on strength and not muscular hypertrophy. And when he writes down each movement, he's referring to the most difficult variation of each movement you can do for max reps (with good form). So even like Wendler's 5/3/1 you leave one, maybe two good reps in the tank. Quality is emphasized over quantity. If you can only do five reps of the hanging leg raise in good form with a strict controlled cadence then doing those reps twice a week will be emphasized over doing a hundred shitty reps of hanging knee raises. The pushup work sets are one-arm since you're capable. And so forth in this fashion.
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It should be noted that I don't follow a strict bodyweight regimen, never have and most likely never will.
So my suggestion would be to ask yourself why you're doing bodyweight movements to begin with. Find a programming scheme that's aligned with your goals. When you get access to a barbell and squat rack you could even do 5/3/1 with bodyweight assistance work. Convict conditioning programs are all strength-based. Al Kavadlo suggests a lot of circuit work, and while that's not my cup of tea you might dig it. When you have an idea of what you want to do and what your goals are let us know and we might be able to find a good program to fit your needs out there.
J Tourettes
Banned
I'm considering taking up BJJ soon but the classes mainly seem to be M/W/F evenings. Would it be too much of a stretch to do two of these a week after my SS workout? I probably wouldn't be starting until about July.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
BJJ training is intense. It's probably one of the most, if not the most intense cardio you can do, so keep that in mind. You're going to be sore all over, and you're going to be dog shit tired.
Urban Scholar
Member
Do you guys drink coffee to curb hunger when fasting?
If you do strength training and BJJ, you'll probably want to do the strength training before the BJJ on the same days, because you will require a day off afterwards unless you're in really good physical condition (and probably experienced, too). Lots of folks at my old gym would use the weight room in the hour before class started.
Sometimes I can barely walk the day after BJJ. Ensure you have that recovery day, light cardio at the most unless you can really handle it without any trouble.
Sometimes I can barely walk the day after BJJ. Ensure you have that recovery day, light cardio at the most unless you can really handle it without any trouble.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yup. Black.
Urban Scholar
Member
Thanks fellas. My job offers it for free so I was wondering
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Are you doing low carb? I was feeling the same way and took Cuevas advice to add more fat. Its helped ever since.
Damn!
What the shit. Gross.
I know, heaven forbid a woman wants to be in shape!
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