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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Mully

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For the first 5 years of squatting, I never used a neck pad. I started using it last year because some random big guy told me that I should. He basically scared me into it.

I'll have to ween myself off of it again.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Anyone watching Olympia tonight? I would start a thread but I know we would get a lot of people who don't understand the sport and can only talk shit.
 

Zyphos

Neo Member
Okay GAF, quick question.

Back in December, I tried doing standing presses for the first time; something "dinged" in my arm, whole arm went numb, etc. Stayed that way for ~half an hour, then was fine. Went to doctor, said it was a torn ligament, give it time to heal, etc.

Now, 10 months later, I still feel the "ding" if I do presses with more than ~30 pounds of weight, though I can bench 120+ easily enough. It's only with the standing presses.

Doc's have no idea what it is, and I'm mostly certain form isn't an issue. Anyone have any idea what it could be?

Standing presses, both military and not, with a barbell.

Arm_with_Median_Nerve.jpg


Basically, I feel like a from the wrist to the elbow that gets tight, or strained in some way (really hard to describe how it feels) that lines up really well with the Median nerve in the picture. Between that and the numbness I felt when I kept trying the first time that led to the whole arm going numb, I'm thinking that something in the standing presses is causing the nerve to get compressed or something that I don't get when I do benches. Just my guess though, anyone have advice or suggestions on what it could be?
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
So I had that deep tissue massage I mentioned last night. Oh god, my body is so sore right now.

I haven't had a massage in two years, and because I solely train calisthenics/gymnastics, my workouts are absolute hell on my shoulders and back. For the past couple months, every time I would stretch, I felt a crack every which way. I finally decided to do something about it, and boy did that ****ing woman work me in. She straddled me, and with elbows, fists, knuckles, and fingers, put a goddamn beating on my body. I had her go to town on my shoulders especially, right around the rotator cuff (which has been giving me issues), and I can't even describe how painfully euphoric it was.

Icing on the cake was that after the massage, she was like, "You exercise too much." ;)
 
It's a lot of work for little payoff done by people who don't have the strength to do that type of showing off. And, it's a giant tire. There's no point to do that type of lift.

Basically, they just want to say "I lifted this tire" instead of doing actual heavy squats. Plus, it's a big fucking tire. Thems for flippin'. Stones and logs are for liftin'.

I highly doubt that squatting the tire would be part of anyone's permanent routine, and of course I agree that there is no real point to do that lift for progressive strength training, but some of the best fun you can have in lifting is trying to lift awkward heavy objects every now and again just to test yourself and for no other reason.

Recently I was jogging through a field and came across a bunch of cut up logs for firewood. I stopped my jog and proceeded to try to lift the heaviest log I could over my head. It scratched me to hell, was incredibly difficult to clean and press at a much lighter weight than I would use with a barbell, and there was definitely no point to it other than to say "I lifted this log", but it sure was fun!
 

OG Kush

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Started university a week ago... what a week its been. haven't been to the gym once, and just been drinking, eating and smoking like crazy. Dominoes hand out free pizza coupons for the first week of Uni here and since I can't be bothered to cook anymore my diet is shit. A week off may have been good though as I am fucking pumped for freshers week to be over and get back onto routine! I don't think I've even gained much weight as burning a lot of calories on the dance floor.
 
I'm looking to get a cheap and tiny gym backpack. My college gym doesn't allow full-sized backpacks into the weight room, so I really just need something that can hold two 1.25lb plates and nothing more. Any recommendations?

Search for "sinch bag" on Amazon. Second item down would be a good one. I have a handful I got for free from random giveaways over the years. Super handy for small plates, a water bottle, and your ID/phone.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Yeah I just started uni as well and moving from my local gym to the uni gym has been hell. I have to focus solely on one exercise (i.e. 3 sets of squats in a row) with two minutes of rest in between sets just because of how busy it is. If I veer off and try to get another workout in between, I'll lose my place at the first exercise and it just becomes a vicious cycle of 5 minute wait times for every machine. I need to start getting up at like 6 AM to get a good fckn workout in.

holy crap just looked at my before and afters side by side from 3 months ago versus now... i went from an anorexic kid with 18% bodyfat to somewhere closer to built-fat. Think I'm going to keep eating like crazy for another month or two before I start cutting! Up to 175 pounds now from 143 pounds 12 weeks ago.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Yeah I just started uni as well and moving from my local gym to the uni gym has been hell. I have to focus solely on one exercise (i.e. 3 sets of squats in a row) with two minutes of rest in between sets just because of how busy it is. If I veer off and try to get another workout in between, I'll lose my place at the first exercise and it just becomes a vicious cycle of 5 minute wait times for every machine. I need to start getting up at like 6 AM to get a good fckn workout in.

Yeah, that's why I hate going to my gym. I've decided to get myself some equipment and workout at home instead.
 

AngryMoth

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Finally started running again 2 weeks ago after a long hiatus. On my 3 mile route I've gone from 26:43 down to 23:38 this evening which is my 2nd best time ever so very pleased! Now to start upping the distance. Accedently dropped my iPhone 5 whilst checking the time tonight though and got some nasty scuffs on the front edge :C
 

genjiZERO

Member
I've noticed that I've peaked out on my routine and have been getting more tired lately. Sign that I need to switch things up? Thinking of doing suspension style routines for a couple of weeks. Good idea?
 
I think you're fine with plastic shopping bags or an old backpack. Don't waste your money.

The point was that I can't take a backpack into the gym, but I like the plastic shopping bag angle. Should be easy enough to keep on my handlebars for the duration of the ride, and god knows I have enough bags to spare.
 

rififi

Member
Okay GAF, quick question.

Back in December, I tried doing standing presses for the first time; something "dinged" in my arm, whole arm went numb, etc. Stayed that way for ~half an hour, then was fine. Went to doctor, said it was a torn ligament, give it time to heal, etc.

Now, 10 months later, I still feel the "ding" if I do presses with more than ~30 pounds of weight, though I can bench 120+ easily enough. It's only with the standing presses.

Doc's have no idea what it is, and I'm mostly certain form isn't an issue. Anyone have any idea what it could be?

Standing presses, both military and not, with a barbell.

Arm_with_Median_Nerve.jpg


Basically, I feel like a from the wrist to the elbow that gets tight, or strained in some way (really hard to describe how it feels) that lines up really well with the Median nerve in the picture. Between that and the numbness I felt when I kept trying the first time that led to the whole arm going numb, I'm thinking that something in the standing presses is causing the nerve to get compressed or something that I don't get when I do benches. Just my guess though, anyone have advice or suggestions on what it could be?

Where exactly on your arm did the ding occur? closer to the shoulder? closer to the elbow relative to the forearm or the arm? Do you also have any numbness in your hand (around your thumb, the middle, or on the side of the little finger)? When your forearm is numb, can you rotate your wrist toward and/or away from your body?

The muscles innervated by the median nerve have the same actions in both military press and bench press. The only difference between military and bench press is at the shoulder.
So, if it is an issue with the median nerve (or radial nerve), it would be due to compression around the shoulder joint.
 

Imm0rt4l

Member
Man, I was gonna go to the Mr. Olympia Expo today, but out of nowhere my friend got me super drunk last night at Toby Keiths where they literally put half the bottle of whiskey in my drink and the other half in his. Never again.

I was looking forward to just grabbing a bunch of supplements too.
 

Mully

Member
I feel like I failed all of you when I said I got ringworm from the neck pad. Before last June, I never used a neck pad.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
IMO Kai got robbed....if anyone cares. I watched the stream.

Heath over Kai?

I missed the whole thing, but from these "pre" shots I would have picked Kai over everything but forearms.

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Damn and I just bought my 2nd elitefts economy belt because it's all they had

Yeah, I can't wait for it to show up. I never thought in my life I'd be cancelling video game purchases for workout stuff, lol. I guess shit changes as you get older. I can't wait for those rehband warm up pants either.

I feel like I failed all of you when I said I got ringworm from the neck pad. Before last June, I never used a neck pad.

Just get that disgusting shit off of you, don't feel bad for us, feel bad for you. Then never use stuff like that again.
 

b3b0p

Member
Safety bars and a pullup bar, mainly.

One question though...is it going to be stable enough if I can't bolt it to the floor?

edit: oh...you can get safety spotter arms for the S-series. Maybe I should look at that.

Keep in mind you *have* to bolt the full stand to the floor.

I have these on the S2: http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-squat-stand-base-storage.php

Also the dip accessory is pretty sweet. I have the fat/skinny pull up bar.

I don't know why you would need safety bars. But that's my opinion.
 

Ravidrath

Member
So Gaf, while I'm training my chest, I can only feel the burn in this area:

rAlvR.jpg


Is it normal or am I just training my minor pecs?

I'm no expert, but my guess would be that you need to work on your form.

You're pushing up too high and extending your shoulders, so you're working them more than you are your chest.

Keep your shoulders flat, so you're just squeezing your chest and not cheating with other muscles.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
IMO Kai got robbed....if anyone cares. I watched the stream.

Agreed. I watched all that shit. They seemed to forget about legs which Kai wins hands down over Phil. I would say Phil beats in most muscular and side chest but every other pose Kai wins.
 
Guys since this is fitness thread, I posted here several weeks ago.


I need help cooking chicken breast. I have tried roasting it - comes out like brick
I just bought a crock pot, I made it with vegetable broth and it was tasteless.
I put tandoori chicken and the juices escaped and I have 2 pieces of brick after 4 hours on high


I am thinking of cooking it, marinating with Tandoori masala and then putting it in foil paper and then putting it in crock port for 6 hours on low.

Please advise.
 
Sometime late last night I gave in to my wife and went crazy. I ate eight donuts, a quesadilla, sour cream and onion chips, half a 16 inch pizza and a bag of funyuns. I think I want ice cream.
 
Guys since this is fitness thread, I posted here several weeks ago.


I need help cooking chicken breast. I have tried roasting it - comes out like brick
I just bought a crock pot, I made it with vegetable broth and it was tasteless.
I put tandoori chicken and the juices escaped and I have 2 pieces of brick after 4 hours on high


I am thinking of cooking it, marinating with Tandoori masala and then putting it in foil paper and then putting it in crock port for 6 hours on low.

Please advise.
here is how I do mine

Beat it with a tenderizer and then season it with season all and lemon pepper on both sides. Fry in a small amount of bacon grease on medium heat for about 7 minutes on each side. I always get compliments on how juicy it is.
 

Ravidrath

Member
Guys since this is fitness thread, I posted here several weeks ago.


I need help cooking chicken breast. I have tried roasting it - comes out like brick
I just bought a crock pot, I made it with vegetable broth and it was tasteless.
I put tandoori chicken and the juices escaped and I have 2 pieces of brick after 4 hours on high


I am thinking of cooking it, marinating with Tandoori masala and then putting it in foil paper and then putting it in crock port for 6 hours on low.

Please advise.

I marinate it in store-bought marinade (Stubb's) and then just grill it on a George Foreman.
 

Ravidrath

Member
I have a George Foreman grill I am just afraid it will be dry again.

Can you please tell me for how long ?

I throw a bag of chicken into a bag with the marinade, and usually let it marinade for at least a day before I start cooking it up. So, basically, it's completely saturated with marinade by the time I cook it.

I cook it for 5 minutes, after pre-heating the grill.
 
here is how I do mine

Beat it with a tenderizer and then season it with season all and lemon pepper on both sides. Fry in a small amount of bacon grease on medium heat for about 7 minutes on each side. I always get compliments on how juicy it is.

Thanks I will try this method as well.
 

Mully

Member
You could also just boil your chicken. That's what I do. It tastes bland, but if you add an entire package of frozen string beans and some broccoli you won't notice.
 

MDR1750

Neo Member
So Gaf, while I'm training my chest, I can only feel the burn in this area:

rAlvR.jpg


Is it normal or am I just training my minor pecs?


based on that description I am going to guess your technique is similar to this:
-using dumbells
-keeping shoulders pinned back throughout the lift
-elbows flared out or nearly flared out (ie your torso and arms make a 'T' shape)
-not going past 90 degrees

if so, then yea I'd say that is normal and where you should expect to be feeling it. you will feel soreness the most closer to where your chest connects to your shoulder and not the inner or center part of your chest.
 
Tomorrow starts a new era. Day 1 of my first Phase before contest prep in the spring. I can't really discuss much of what I'm doing, but... I am going to be cutting (yay), I'm on a version of carb cycling, and my training is pretty high volume, but it's unlike anything I've ever done before.

After this phase, I will hit a short bulk through the winter, then move into contest prep if I so choose.

All in all, not holding any judgement until I see the results.
 

X-Frame

Member
I did shuttle run sprints in my backyard this afternoon. Reminded me of elementary school gym class, haha. Then as I was reminiscing, I did jumping jacks too. Those coupled with farmers walks made for a pretty interesting conditioning workout.
 

rando14

Member
Tomorrow starts a new era. Day 1 of my first Phase before contest prep in the spring. I can't really discuss much of what I'm doing, but... I am going to be cutting (yay), I'm on a version of carb cycling, and my training is pretty high volume, but it's unlike anything I've ever done before.

After this phase, I will hit a short bulk through the winter, then move into contest prep if I so choose.

All in all, not holding any judgement until I see the results.

The world is ready for the DarthWufei era of bodybuilding!
 
I wanted to start keeping track of what I eat for awhile to kind of motivate me to drop my body fat percentage. I was wondering what your opinions were of the calorie counter sites out there that you can look up and log. Is there a consensus on what the number one site for this would be?
 
based on that description I am going to guess your technique is similar to this:
-using dumbells
-keeping shoulders pinned back throughout the lift
-elbows flared out or nearly flared out (ie your torso and arms make a 'T' shape)
-not going past 90 degrees

if so, then yea I'd say that is normal and where you should expect to be feeling it. you will feel soreness the most closer to where your chest connects to your shoulder and not the inner or center part of your chest.

I do barbell bench press, I go past 90 degrees. I have really long arms and use my biggest middle finger on the oly bar rings. I feel the burn there only too. It really frustrates me, as I have a large gap between my pecs. Is there anything I can do to work the inside of my pecs more to close the gap when doing bench press?

Also for everyone:

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75 years old.
 
Tomorrow starts a new era. Day 1 of my first Phase before contest prep in the spring. I can't really discuss much of what I'm doing, but... I am going to be cutting (yay), I'm on a version of carb cycling, and my training is pretty high volume, but it's unlike anything I've ever done before.

After this phase, I will hit a short bulk through the winter, then move into contest prep if I so choose.

All in all, not holding any judgement until I see the results.

Out of curiousity dude, how old are you? ANd how long have you been lifting prior to this?
 

Man

Member
Just booked myself a DEXA scan (info) for next Thursday. $159 but I will get a complete breakdown with 1+/-% accuracy (the same test many professional athletes go through). Will get a diagram showing what fat percentage I have over different weights and a full breakdown per limb etc.

Today was my target date for main summer cut and I'm 148.7lbs (target was 149.6lbs / 68KG).
6 weeks ago I was 158.2lbs (71.9KG). I'm 5'5" (165CM).

During those six weeks I have been faithfully following the Beginner Full Body routine in the OP (for the first time) while on a cutting diet (1750kcal per day, 140+ grams of protein). Strength improvements include:
Squats: 3x5 @ 154lbs --> 192.5lbs (87.5KG)
Bench: 3x5 @ 159.5lbs --> 181.5lbs (82.5KG)
Pull-ups: 8-6-4 --> 12-8-7
Deadlift: 1x5 @ 154lbs --> 253lbs (115KG)
Overhead press: 3x5 @ 88lbs --> 110lbs (50KG)
Powercleans: 5 x 3: 110lbs --> 132lbs (60KG)

I have been stagnating a lot (completely in bench & squat) these last two weeks so with my main cutting goal reached I'm increasing my kcals again. Will upload some photos later when I get around to taking some.
 
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