The longer I train, the more I realize just how fat and out of shape most people are. It sickens me to think what I used to be satisfied being.
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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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The longer I train, the more I realize just how fat and out of shape most people are. It sickens me to think what I used to be satisfied being.
You shoulda known by the thread title what was going on in there. "omg Brad Pitt in Fight Club" Omg muscles are so bulky and gross, omg omg omg.
Well, it is to some people. Shit, if you're fat and you're aiming to look like Pitt you're better off than not doing it.
My issue is people see Brad as point "B" and them as point "A" and think "fuck, I'll never look like that" and just give up.
different strokes for different folks, it's not brainwashing.
I think their is some objectivity to aesthetics, but come on. The guy is a handsome motherfucker, he's lean/otter mode and not really intimidating. Now if we're talking fit, I'd agree he wasn't really all that fit or athletic, just lean. Not everyone's goal is to be swole. Not everyone can appreciate big ass quads with nice outer quad sweeps like Darth's for example(I'm mirin brah). Guys who put time in the gym are undoubtedly going to have an appreciation for that though!
*recalls that abercombie workout program.
*shudders.
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A More Normal Bird
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I'm not sure they've been brainwashed into thinking it's desirable, but there's certainly misconceptions about what that sort of build indicates in terms of physical ability, which then extends into negative myths about muscular frames. The way some people talk, if someone is big AND lean they may as well be an invalid; they're slow, inflexible, tire too easily, aren't as strong as they look and lack functional/practical/hard/real muscle. Who ever said you shouldn't judge a book by its cover?
I hear from those people that cardio burns muscle. So, when you cut you can't do too much endurance work or all your muslces will go down.
Oh.
Wait.
Of course not, bodybuilding and fitness aren't mutually exclusive.
CARDIO KILL GAINS
half true
LSD, yeah, because it's counter intuitive. However, most people aren't training enough or focused enough for it to matter.
So, there's that.
DirkDiggler
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I get annoyed when I see folks walk in wearing these.Not sure why.Anyone else?
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Rabbitweed
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Do you think those cyclists are natural? I'm having hard time believing they have never used PED's no matter how many times they have been tested. Those legs are just huge, even a bodybuilder would be jealous of those quads..
Anyway, tested my bench max for the first time in +10 years. My chest training for the last few years has basically constituted of push-ups, push-ups and more push-ups but now I have started going to the gym once a week to do some heavier lifts (i.e. bench, power cleans, deadlift & squat). Managed to bench 254lb (I weigh ca 195) for which I was really pleased. Probably gonna aim for 280-300 by the next summer. Feels good to be benching again.
Anyway, tested my bench max for the first time in +10 years. My chest training for the last few years has basically constituted of push-ups, push-ups and more push-ups but now I have started going to the gym once a week to do some heavier lifts (i.e. bench, power cleans, deadlift & squat). Managed to bench 254lb (I weigh ca 195) for which I was really pleased. Probably gonna aim for 280-300 by the next summer. Feels good to be benching again.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Damn, the programming I have for lifting is definitely good for conditioning. I just ran a mile after not running for a pretty substantial amount of time (maybe a month or a little more?) And it wasn't bad at all.
Also, good article, but a bit long (and old).
Education-of-a-Powerlifter
http://articles.elitefts.com/traini...s/efs-classic-the-education-of-a-powerlifter/
Also, good article, but a bit long (and old).
Education-of-a-Powerlifter
http://articles.elitefts.com/traini...s/efs-classic-the-education-of-a-powerlifter/
ohhthegore
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I get annoyed when I see folks walk in wearing these.Not sure why.Anyone else?
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If I saw The Rock or that hot ass chick wearing those I would not be annoyed. Everyone else though yeah sure
Did 195 ATG on squats today. Working my way up.
So accessory stuff. Does anyone ever do it on off days? Between my compounds and accessory stuff, I'm at the gym for like 1.5-2 hours. I wouldn't mind just going on an off day and doing things like flyes and leg curls but always good to check here first if they should really only follow your compounds.
So accessory stuff. Does anyone ever do it on off days? Between my compounds and accessory stuff, I'm at the gym for like 1.5-2 hours. I wouldn't mind just going on an off day and doing things like flyes and leg curls but always good to check here first if they should really only follow your compounds.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I've got no problem with people dressing like that at the gym IF they have the body to go with it. I do get tired of seeing fat fuckers in cut offs and skinny fuckers the same way.
Fat chicks in booty shorts and small tops, don't even get me started.
But hell, this shit happens outside the gym too, so it is what it is.
Sometimes you have to step back and remind yourself that accessory work is exactly what its name implies. It's just there to fix weak spots. I'm re-evaluating what I do for accessory work right now because along the way I've forgotten this. Most people do WAY too much accessory work. (should be noted "health" type exercises should probably be though of as "other than accessory work" since they keep you from breaking) Examples of those would be face pulls, band pull aparts, external rotations, scarecrows, rear delt flys, lateral raises, etc.
Although in regard to body building, I guess it could be different.
Fat chicks in booty shorts and small tops, don't even get me started.
But hell, this shit happens outside the gym too, so it is what it is.
Sometimes you have to step back and remind yourself that accessory work is exactly what its name implies. It's just there to fix weak spots. I'm re-evaluating what I do for accessory work right now because along the way I've forgotten this. Most people do WAY too much accessory work. (should be noted "health" type exercises should probably be though of as "other than accessory work" since they keep you from breaking) Examples of those would be face pulls, band pull aparts, external rotations, scarecrows, rear delt flys, lateral raises, etc.
Although in regard to body building, I guess it could be different.
http://www.allthingsgym.com/2011/10/jim-wendler-on-assistance-lifts/
I try to fit one from each group after my compounds. Key word is try. Going ATG definitely takes it out of me and I rest 3-5 min between sets. You're looking at like 20 min of rest during squats alone.
I just wouldn't mind doing compounds one day and then the next day doing one exercise from each of those groups.
I try to fit one from each group after my compounds. Key word is try. Going ATG definitely takes it out of me and I rest 3-5 min between sets. You're looking at like 20 min of rest during squats alone.
I just wouldn't mind doing compounds one day and then the next day doing one exercise from each of those groups.
I do like 9 sets total per day of my 4 day split and I'm in and out of the gym in 45 minutes. To quote the twins, I have been making "all kinds of gains".
Interesting article about super low volume at EXRX http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/LowVolumeTraining.html
to each their own though.
Interesting article about super low volume at EXRX http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/LowVolumeTraining.html
to each their own though.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
After so long away I would forget my 5rm for the initial day and work up from the bar to see where you are, and how you feel. Throw "ego" out the door and simply start with the bar and add weight incrementally to see how you feel, then base your next squat workout off of that.
I would also do an extended warm up with super low weight/body weight.
The one on the left is (I think) Robert Förstmann, who squats 484lbx8 high bar
This. Also: you will be entering a world of pain the next day.
I don't see why get annoyed, If I had beats, I'd wear em'. The only thing annoying about them is people act like they're quality headphones when really they're more of a fashion accessory/statement.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
That's another thing.
I couldn't imagine trying to work out with OTE head phones. How does that shit not get in the way? I don't "hate" on people doing it, I just wonder, "WHY?!?"
I can't imagine lifting with a damn headphone cord ever again. My bluetooth headphones are the best workout accessory I've ever purchased.
I think I'm going to stop doing cable rows. I've been doing them on Wednesdays for assistance / hypertrophy purposes but they are starting to bother my shoulders for some reason. I guess I could switch to Pendlay Rows but I have no idea how to program them: my lower back is usually roasted after squats / deadlifts, which is the reason I started doing Cable Rows in the first place instead of rowing with a barbell.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I just tuck the cord under my shirt. It hardly ever gets in the way anymore.
I'd get pissed off buying batteries for those (wireless).
You will get used to it. Simply add them at low weight. I do pendlays after squats AND deads and it's fine, but I also do low weight higher rep because I do Tbars and pullups earlier in the week.
That's another thing you can add. Tbar and/or DB rows.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
IMO "where you are" with them isn't important since they are there as assistance. The important thing is you aren't sacrificing form (the entire purpose of "pendlay rows" for weight).
They are a fantastic back exercise, so long as you're doing them correctly.
Good to know.
Yesterday I started at 135, and my form was completely off after two reps. I stopped, put the weight back on the parallel, changed the weight to 95lbs, and stayed there.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Just remember your torso should be near parallel to the ground and your low back should be arched as hard as you can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKg
That's exactly the video I watch prior to every back session. Thanks for the help again!!!
Yeah, that's the thing. It was pretty hard for me not to feel my form was awful. I think I'm gonna do them on Wednesdays after pressing. I'll start at 135lb and go from there, maybe 5lb a week.
From the man himself. Awesome.
Yeah I think I'll do this. I'll add weight for as long as it feels good and start from there.
DirkDiggler
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Batteries? Just charge them up once in a while (about 7 hours of use per charge) and you're good to go. I don't even think they make them with those type of batteries anymore!
Just throw them on the charger like once a week myself.
Syphon Filter
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I have been doing all body parts except abs. I thought i should wait till i lose some body fat[not that i am overweight] and then do abs. Is this a good idea?
It shouldn't matter since you're doing abs without even knowing it. If you're doing deadlifts, squats, bench, overhead press, etc, you're working on your abs.
L0st Id3ntity
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What are you doing? If you're doing compound lifts you are doing abs.
what grip are you using with cable rows? v-bar? lat pulldown bar? etc
You could do T-Rows.
Syphon Filter
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TheDarkStark
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I personally use Motorola S-10 bluetooth. Quality sound and sweatproof.
I had those like 4 years ago and I returned them because the sound kept cutting in and out on my Iphone 3G.
I bought a pair of these instead: http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/products/mobile-phones-gps/RF-MAB2.html and they work much much better, and they used to be a lot cheaper (The Sony's use to cost $100), however they're not quite as good for working out.
GAF, I was hoping to mimic Christian Bale's weight loss program with certain modification. Trust me, losing weight has been very difficult for me and I tend to hit plateau very soon. Also I don't have time to hit the gym everyday. As such, here's the idea:
Do you think it'll work for losing weight? At 5'4" I am currently 170LBs (when I first came to Canada eight years ago, I was around 125LBs).
- Keep solid food limited to just 2-3 fruits (banana, apple)
- One egg per day
- Lots of water
- Protein shake (to both replenish and compensate) during long walk (on treadmill) and workout regiment almost everyday (for either one of the regiments)
- Fruit juice either once every day or every two days
- Vitamin B12 suppliment injection (once every month)
Do you think it'll work for losing weight? At 5'4" I am currently 170LBs (when I first came to Canada eight years ago, I was around 125LBs).
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Holy shit, I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole.
fredrancour
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I am not aware of any circumstances under which a diet this drastic is advisable. You're always better off finding something realistically sustainable. tell the thread what you've
been trying in the past that's failed so people can help figure out how to give you a sustainable thing.
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