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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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despire

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So today I tried squatting again. Everything went pretty much ok even though I had some discomfort at first. And again when I moved up in weight it stopped bothering so much. Don't really know what's up with that.

Here's what I did (not counting bodyweight squats):
Barbell Squat:

20 kg x 5 reps (+35 pts)
20 kg x 5 reps (+35 pts)
30 kg x 5 reps (+41 pts)
40 kg x 5 reps (+48 pts)
50 kg x 5 reps (+55 pts)
60 kg x 3 reps (+52 pts)
70 kg x 3 reps (+60 pts)
80 kg x 3 reps (+70 pts)
90 kg x 5 reps (+101 pts)
90 kg x 5 reps (+101 pts)
90 kg x 10 reps (+119 pts)


So far so good with my "hip adductor/flexor" but holy shit my upper inner thighs/groin are sore as hell :D
 
Do you guys still get DOMS? I don't. I could probably spend an entire day at the gym without getting them.

I'll get a SLIGHT case the day after squatting, but it's more like my legs are drained than being sore.

It's kind of bittersweet in a way, no pain is nice but you don't quite feel like you did as much.
 
I only ever get DOMS now if I try a new lift or if I take a week or more off from working any specific muscle group. In case you're worried, DOMS do not indicate whether you just had a "good" or "bad" work out.
 

despire

Member
I didn't use to get them but nowadays I get them more often since I started doing assistance lifts with hypertrophy in mind.

It's not bad though..
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Do you guys still get DOMS? I don't. I could probably spend an entire day at the gym without getting them.

I'll get a SLIGHT case the day after squatting, but it's more like my legs are drained than being sore.

It's kind of bittersweet in a way, no pain is nice but you don't quite feel like you did as much.

Up your volume, you'll get DOMs, lol.

I still get DOMs every single time.
 

Eidan

Member
Do you guys still get DOMS? I don't. I could probably spend an entire day at the gym without getting them.

I'll get a SLIGHT case the day after squatting, but it's more like my legs are drained than being sore.

It's kind of bittersweet in a way, no pain is nice but you don't quite feel like you did as much.

I tend to feel it a bit after a particularly rough day of squats. Every once in a while I'll feel them after bench as well. Always two days afterwards.
 
Do you guys still get DOMS? I don't. I could probably spend an entire day at the gym without getting them.

I'll get a SLIGHT case the day after squatting, but it's more like my legs are drained than being sore.

It's kind of bittersweet in a way, no pain is nice but you don't quite feel like you did as much.
Pretty much the same unless I do some crazy supersets with massive volume.
 
Up your volume, you'll get DOMs, lol.

I still get DOMs every single time.

I do a ton of volume, but I do more of a bodybuilding routine while it seems like most people here do a max strength routine. I'm on a 5/6 day split and I spend an hour or more on a single body part, without much rest between sets (between 1-2 minutes). I focus on compound lifts though.

Example:

Bench press:
warmup set
work set x10
work set x8
work set x6

Incline dumbell press:
work set x10
work set x8
work set x6

Decline press:
work set x10
work set x8
work set x6

Dumbell or Cable Flys:
work set x 12
work set x 12
work set x 12
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I do a ton of volume, but I do more of a bodybuilding routine while it seems like most people here do a max strength routine. I'm on a 5/6 day split and I spend an hour or more on a single body part, without much rest between sets (between 1-2 minutes). I focus on compound lifts though.

Example:

Bench press:
warmup set
work set x10
work set x8
work set x6

Incline dumbell press:
work set x10
work set x8
work set x6

Decline press:
work set x10
work set x8
work set x6

Dumbell or Cable Flys:
work set x 12
work set x 12
work set x 12

That's not a ton of volume IMO. Also, weight has to increase with the volume. You can do a shit load of sets, but if the weight isn't challenging you're only holding yourself back. (Not saying that's what's happening with you)

I do so much volume with such an intensity that I get fantastic cardio from lifting. I've gone weeks (up to a month) without running and my 1 mile - 1.5 mile time never takes a hit because of my programming. I'm also sore as shit the next day, especially on leg day.
 
That's not a ton of volume IMO. Also, weight has to increase with the volume. You can do a shit load of sets, but if the weight isn't challenging you're only holding yourself back. (Not saying that's what's happening with you)

I do so much volume with such an intensity that I get fantastic cardio from lifting. I've gone weeks (up to a month) without running and my 1 mile - 1.5 mile time never takes a hit because of my programming. I'm also sore as shit the next day, especially on leg day.

Yeah that's definitely not the case. Granted I have prior lifting experience, but my lifts have gone through the roof for somebody who isn't solely focused on strength.

In just a hair over 3 months I've lost close to 15 lbs (5 in a week from IF), and my lifts have shot up across the board:

Bench: 135x5 > 205 x 10
Dips: 135lbs x 8 (body weight minus 65lbs) > 235 x 10 (bodyweight + 50lbs)
Squat: 135 x 8 > 265 x 5
Deadlift: 225 x 8 > 365 x 5
Dumbell OHP: 40's x 8 > 60's x 10

A clean high protein diet and a little creatine can go a long way. I've also found reverse pyramid training to be highly effective.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Yeah that's definitely not the case. Granted I have prior lifting experience, but my lifts have gone through the roof for somebody who isn't solely focused on strength.

In just a hair over 3 months I've lost close to 15 lbs (5 in a week from IF), and my lifts have shot up across the board:

Bench: 135x5 > 205 x 10
Dips: 135lbs x 8 (body weight minus 65lbs) > 235 x 10 (bodyweight + 50lbs)
Squat: 135 x 8 > 265 x 5
Deadlift: 225 x 8 > 365 x 5
Dumbell OHP: 40's x 8 > 60's x 10

A clean high protein diet and a little creatine can go a long way. I've also found reverse pyramid training to be highly effective.

Well, to be fair, you're gonna see a huge increase in 3 months (hell, probably for a whole year).

I've been lifting for over 2 years now and I'm still getting DOMs, although I push the shit out of myself when I'm in the gym. (have you seen my logs?)

Edit: If not, here's my last one. https://www.fitocracy.com/entry/136...=TE56M&source=share_workout&referrer=facebook
 
Well, to be fair, you're gonna see a huge increase in 3 months (hell, probably for a whole year).

I've been lifting for over 2 years now and I'm still getting DOMs, although I push the shit out of myself when I'm in the gym. (have you seen my logs?)

Edit: If not, here's my last one. https://www.fitocracy.com/entry/136...=TE56M&source=share_workout&referrer=facebook
That's one day? That seems pretty extreme unless you're only lifting 3 days a week.

Near the end your body has to be running on fumes. There's no way you can push anywhere near max weight by the end. I mean go ahead and keep doing what works for you, but it would seem like you'd see similar results with less work.

And as far as my gains go, I lifted all throughout my junior and senior year of high school and never got anywhere close to how strong I am now. Nutrition and rest are pretty key.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
That's one day? That seems pretty extreme unless you're only lifting 3 days a week.

Near the end your body has to be running on fumes. There's no way you can push anywhere near max weight by the end. I mean go ahead and keep doing what works for you, but it would seem like you'd see similar results with less work.

And as far as my gains go, I lifted all throughout my junior and senior year of high school and never got anywhere close to how strong I am now.

Yep, all in one day. I only really lift twice a week. The third "lifting" day is recovery lifting with front squats, pendlay rows and extreme low weight high rep benching.

Also, by the end I'm not going for max weight since my main lift is completed first, everything else is accessory (I.E Not majorly important).

This is a bit of a variation of the 5/3/1 2 days split (training for grey pubes). Most of the stuff in there as "extra" is stuff to keep joints healthy (Band pull aparts, external rotations, lateral raises, rear delt flys etc). So while that stuff doesn't really "count" I still track it on fitocracy. The way it really looks in terms of training for that day is like this.

Bench 5/3/1 or Press 5/3/1 (alternate each week)
BBB Bench or press (alternate based off of main work)
Pullups (100 reps)
Tbar row (100 reps)

The main thing I added was more tricep work and it's a no brainer to add in curls for superset there.

Squat/dead is a similar template. I do that twice a week, then like I said, third day is recovery.


You're gonna notice as you progress, you're going to need (want) to add volume to keep progressing.

If I recall correctly, Alien does two days of really heavy lifting followed by one day of light lifting.

Yep, maximum work, maximum rest.
 
If I recall correctly, Alien does two days of really heavy lifting followed by one day of light lifting.

Oh OK, that makes sense then. Yeah I mean If I did that kind of volume on a split (working out 5-6 days a week) I'd probably die.

I'd like to trim it down to 4-5 days a week, but I just don't usually have time to put in 2 hours a night. 1 hour - 1 hour 20 minutes is plenty.
 

Mully

Member
Anyone have an idea of what that contusion on my right quad might be from? I still have it this afternoon. I got it yesterday after a leg workout.
 

despire

Member
Can someone help me convince my GF to start using creatine? I've been trying to get her to try it but she's worried that the water retention will make her look fatter (even if the water goes to the muscles)..

So some good arguments would be helpful. Or some good article explaining creatine :)
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Anyone have an idea of what that contusion on my right quad might be from? I still have it this afternoon. I got it yesterday after a leg workout.

Probably just a burst blood vessel. If there's no pain, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I got one a while back behind my knee, nothing ever came of it.
 

Sadsic

Member
I want to drop into this. My health is getting fucking fixed starting today

Age: 22
Height: 5'4
Weight: 195 lbs of FAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Goal: 135 lb
Current Training Schedule: Not Sure
Current Training Equipment Available: None
Comments: What should I be doing? I'm starting an 1800 calorie a day diet, and I can walk definitely, but I have no money so a gym or any equipment is off the table. I can probably start doing yoga in my house, although it might be difficult.

Thoughts?

update: weighed myself today, and im 188! i lost 7 pounds in like 3 weeks
 

Veezy

que?
Do you guys do chin-ups and pull-ups on the same day?

I don't, but it's not like it'll hurt. Then again, pull ups are superior to chins for strength/hypertrophy, so you may just want to go HAM on your pulls and then kinda superset, if you will, with your chins.

EDIT: Another option is do body weight chins for max reps one day and then a few days later do weighted chins for max reps.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
Do you guys still get DOMS? I don't. I could probably spend an entire day at the gym without getting them.

I'll get a SLIGHT case the day after squatting, but it's more like my legs are drained than being sore.

It's kind of bittersweet in a way, no pain is nice but you don't quite feel like you did as much.

Do walking lunges with anything over 225 then come back and tell us you're not sore the next few days. ;)

FallingEdge said:
NOPE! Slim fit jeans

Ewwww
 

sphinx

the piano man
a little late to the DOMS talk, but is it a sign of anything to not have it anymore?

particularly on my legs, I remember feeling them sore some months ago but ever since I started with the pistol squats I never get sore thighs again.. using the equipment at the gym gives me slighlty sore legs immediately after finishing all the sets but then nothing more... I wonder if that means anything.. like, can it be a sign that I am not lifting enough with them?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
a little late to the DOMS talk, but is it a sign of anything to not have it anymore?

particularly on my legs, I remember feeling them sore some months ago but ever since I started with the pistol squats I never get sore thighs again.. using the equipment at the gym gives me slighlty sore legs after immediately after finishing all the sets but then nothing more... I wonder if that means anything.. like, can it be a sign that I am not lifting enough with them?

Not really, but if you're really pushing yourself you're probably going to get DOMs. That doesn't mean over do it though.
 

sphinx

the piano man
Not really, but if you're really pushing yourself you're probably going to get DOMs. That doesn't mean over do it though.

it's strange because I always feel a bit of soreness in my chest and arms, specially when I stretch them out and that hasn't changed all these months but with the legs in general, calves, thighs, butt, they feel a bit too comfortable when out of the gym. When I use the machines at the gym (those with the metal bars and pins) I really go for the highest weight I can realistically lift in 10 repetitions, so I don't know if I should push harder and risk injury or failure... maybe I should change the weight just to test..
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
My supper since I had nothing to cook and the womanz was working too.

1900+ calories including my milk, those damn raisin & cinnamon toast were 140 cal each. I haven't had them in a while so I indulged, so good with butter/margarine. Eggs are smothered in melted New Bothwell cheddar :S

DSCN1396.jpg
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
^^^^ oh man I love that toast.


it's strange because I always feel a bit of soreness in my chest and arms, specially when I stretch them out and that hasn't changed all these months but with the legs in general, calves, thighs, butt, they feel a bit too comfortable when out of the gym. When I use the machines at the gym (those with the metal bars and pins) I really go for the highest weight I can realistically lift in 10 repetitions, so I don't know if I should push harder and risk injury or failure... maybe I should change the weight just to test..


Smith machine? Do you HAVE to use one? There's nothing wrong with smith machines for assistance work, but you would be better served doing freeweight for the main movements.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Whaaaaaaat?

For reals? You're gonna start lifting?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39123366&postcount=1491

Some of these things can be tweaked, such as pushing your elbows BACK instead of forward, and foot position. But this is the best one I've seen so far.

I actually used to lift, doing deadlifts, squats, and bench pressing mostly, but I sustained a back injury that halted my progress. New gym recently opened up across the street from me, so I decided I would incorporate some weightlifting into my calisthenics/gymnastics routine. Can't hurt. I've always missed doing squats, so I'm eager to begin anew, but I want to do them right.
 

Noema

Member
My supper since I had nothing to cook and the womanz was working too.

1900+ calories including my milk, those damn raisin & cinnamon toast were 140 cal each. I haven't had them in a while so I indulged, so good with butter/margarine. Eggs are smothered in melted New Bothwell cheddar :S

I need to learn how to make eggs look so appetizing. I've been eating 8-10 eggs a day for like a year now and I'm so fucking sick of them at this point. I usually eat them scrambled; I need to change it up.
 

Tess3ract

Banned
My supper since I had nothing to cook and the womanz was working too.

1900+ calories including my milk, those damn raisin & cinnamon toast were 140 cal each. I haven't had them in a while so I indulged, so good with butter/margarine. Eggs are smothered in melted New Bothwell cheddar :S

DSCN1396.jpg
How the flying fuck do you know how much calories that thing has?

If you say you manually added up each ingredient I'm gonna pull my hair out (not literally). If I was to do that, i'd rather shoot myself.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
My supper since I had nothing to cook and the womanz was working too.

1900+ calories including my milk, those damn raisin & cinnamon toast were 140 cal each. I haven't had them in a while so I indulged, so good with butter/margarine. Eggs are smothered in melted New Bothwell cheddar :S

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Xeno/DSCN1396.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

That looks nowhere near 1900 calories. Not saying you're incorrect but I sure hope it was filling lol
 

despire

Member
How the flying fuck do you know how much calories that thing has?

If you say you manually added up each ingredient I'm gonna pull my hair out (not literally). If I was to do that, i'd rather shoot myself.

Well the bread package probably has a label on it that says how many calories one piece of the bread has. Eggs are pretty easy to count calorie wise. And then estimate the cheese if you don't want to weight it. Milk is also easy since it says how many calories and whatnot one desilitre has.

At least that's how it is in Finland, don't know about America. In here there's labels and nutrition information on everything so you don't have to guess it..
 
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