Spiritreaver
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Yeah, I'm on the other end. Great calves/legs, "okay" traps. I've been working them hard, and they've grown but not as much as I'd like. Sucks.
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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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iAmMaximus
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Can anyone recommend decent lifting straps?
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Started a slightly modified Greyskull this week. Damn, it's simple but it seems to be working. Feeling gooood today.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Sheik dowel straps.
Best "snack" I've ever made:
Get popsicle molds.
Combine: any mix of sugar free jello pudding, 2 cups milk (I use skim), 4 scoops of unflavored whey.
Mix.
Place in molds.
Enjoy feeling like you're cheating even though you aren't.
Sometimes I throw in some PB2 with the mix if I'm feeling spunky, combine that with the white chocolate pudding variety and if becomes a much more rich dessert.
HisshouBuraiKen
Member
Former fat guy calves are the biggest calves you can buy. But what do you define as high-rep? I'm doing the 5/3/1 BBB 3 month challenge and doing 10 sets of 5 DB shrugs on my squat/deadlift days.
Also my lower abs are sore as fuck (like, checked about 20 times yesterday to see if I had a hernia) after doing the ab wheel/roll with a barbell yesterday. I always thought that thing was just a gimmick!
Recently i got a tub of syntha 6 orange smoothie, I grab a small bowl, add a cup of almond milk and a scoop of the protein, throw in some frozen berries and pop in freezer for a couple hours, tastes like an orange/berry sherbet ice cream, so good
Spiritreaver
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How heavy? Usually I start with a heavy set, going for reps as I'd do with any other lift (depends on program). Then increase the volume for the next two exercises, 10-15 reps, 3 sets of drops sets (4 drops).
Not doing that now though. My trainer didn't even included a trap isolation exercise, so I had him shoehorn one in and it's just a heavy set of shrugs.
Spiritreaver
Member
Man, I feel like the only person who doesn't own straps or a belt. I should probably get on that.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0030FY0GM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I use those. They're nice because you can velcro them tighter or looser without doing the whole fancy wrapping procedure. Very comfortable and very strong.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Straps not wraps bruh.
Also, update on this prison thing.
Completed all the email forms they wanted and just completed a giant packet they sent in the mail including fingerprint waiver, firearm stuff and some other shit. Hopefully this is a good thing. Last time I filled out that much shit I was getting hired, but I haven't even been in to the interview yet. They do have my Resume, my dd214 (military information) and my EMT transcript though.
I don't know what to think. I really need friday to get here.
Both.
Do GMs on squat day and RDLs for assistance on DL day. Or swap them for days for "balance'" work.
But I'd do both.
FallingEdge
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I don't have either! However, I don't need them... yet.
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RDL or Good Mornings for glutes?
Spanking.
It's been a while since I've posted here. I got sick during a trip out of town, and that kept me out of the gym for 2 weeks. The first week back is always the roughest.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Can we all agree that a pull-up is one of the greatest exercises of all time?
Today alone I had two different people ask me what my bicep routine was, and they seemed dumbfounded when I told them that pull-ups are pretty much all I do. I did a pyramid set of 100 pull-ups today (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1) and I can't remember the last time my biceps and forearms burned so much. Toward the end I was literally hanging by the tips of my fingers, but thankfully my grip strength held up enough for me to complete the routine. And of course I got an excellent back and lat workout as well. No amount of dumbbell curls or lat pull-downs can compare, in my opinion.
So for those of you who are serious about developing rock-hard biceps and forearms (while still adding size, albeit probably smaller than doing tons of curls), then please consider throwing pull-ups into your routine.
Today alone I had two different people ask me what my bicep routine was, and they seemed dumbfounded when I told them that pull-ups are pretty much all I do. I did a pyramid set of 100 pull-ups today (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1) and I can't remember the last time my biceps and forearms burned so much. Toward the end I was literally hanging by the tips of my fingers, but thankfully my grip strength held up enough for me to complete the routine. And of course I got an excellent back and lat workout as well. No amount of dumbbell curls or lat pull-downs can compare, in my opinion.
So for those of you who are serious about developing rock-hard biceps and forearms (while still adding size, albeit probably smaller than doing tons of curls), then please consider throwing pull-ups into your routine.
TheFightingFish
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I hang these from the door frame of my office door, do a set of 12 or so when I go in or out.
's been great for my traps and forearms. Plus I do some sets on the small lower holes which don't go very deep and you can only fit three fingers in. Helps with general grip strength quite a bit.
RumblingRosco
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I recently added pull-ups to my routine and I'm at about 4 sets of 5 right now. Going to keep it at 4 sets and just keep adding until I can get up to at least 4x10xbodyweight, at which point I might add some plates. That'll be a while, though.
Do you do them with your palms facing you, or facing away? I've always wondered which one was more effective.
Pull-ups are the ones with palms facing away and chin ups are the ones with palms facing you.
Pull-ups are better albeit harder.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Pull-ups = palms facing away from you
Chin-ups = palms facing toward you
They're slightly different in that chin-ups target biceps more, but pull-ups are widely considered the more effective of the two as they allow for a more versatile range of motion, thus incorporating a wider variety of muscles (particularly lats).
that's what I get for scanning fit-gaf at work
Yeah, I know. I just wanted to sure since sometimes people use the terms interchangeable. But what about grip width? I usually do them with a grip slightly wider than my shoulders. I I think doing a wide grip would hit my back better, but it's a lot harder to do. I've been struggling lately with them though, I think I'll do some assisted pull ups from now on until I'm strong enough.
came to second this, pull-ups are excellent. If you have a wide variety of moves, then it becomes quite clear that complete, well done pull-ups are something to be reckoned with, your body really feels the power. I am not sure how or what but it feels like the whole body is involved, as opposed to machines that focus on bicep, which are of course good but only for that particular muscle.
I am currently at 4 sets with 7 reps and will stay there until strength is there to up the number.
(In summer I used to do 10 reps but I asked a friend to watch and correct me, turns out I wasn't doing them "completely", meaning not low and not high enough, so the move is harder than I thought and thus had to go back to 7)
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Better than photo copying your ass I guess.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Wide-grip definitely hits your back and lats more. Unfortunately, I can only do shoulder-width pull-ups, and no more. I suffered rotator cuff tendonitis a few months ago, and I can no longer do wide-grip pull-ups without aggravating my left shoulder. It sucks, but whatever, I'm grateful I can still do some variation of a pull-up. Some people who've suffered similar injuries are a lot less fortunate.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
We had this discussion of pull-ups vs. chins vs. wide grip vs. narrow grip some time ago. Alienshogun posted some article where they had researched the matter clinically and came to the conclusion that pull-ups stress the biceps as much as chin ups but pull-ups train more muscle mass (in your back) so they are better. Also there was no difference in your lats activation between wider or narrow grip.
So if you can't do pull-ups yet then do chins and it doesn't really matter if you are using narrow or wide grip. Of course it doesn't hurt to mix things up a bit. I personally prefer doing narrow grip but that's just me..
So if you can't do pull-ups yet then do chins and it doesn't really matter if you are using narrow or wide grip. Of course it doesn't hurt to mix things up a bit. I personally prefer doing narrow grip but that's just me..
would you be able to use this machine?
cause it's the only thing we have got in my gym and it pisses me off that I can only do wide-grip with those upper handles to the side, I can't believe there's no way to do shoulder-width pull-ups in that gym
I can use the central handles but I don't like them as much because it feels a bit odd..., other than, that it's definitely my favorite machine, perfect for leg-hip raises and the likes..
Sure it matters. You have more muscles than just your lats. Doing wide grip does increase the stress on the rhomboids.
It's incredibly easy to injure your self and pull a muscle or whatever.
Plus I honestly don't think you will see any progress with it. Maybe I'm wrong but it looks useless to me. I'm no pro though.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Actually that may be a myth.
The most important thing is to do pullups not chin ups.
http://articles.elitefts.com/traini...ps-does-it-make-a-difference-needs-formatted/
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Hmmm, hard to tell, but I don't think so. That's a little too wide for me. On the way down my left shoulder would almost certainly "click," causing lots of pain after a few reps.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Spiritreaver
Member
I just have never felt the need for straps, everyone I know uses but me. Belts I can see, and i would like my own belt, just never got around to getting one.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Absolutely great for high rep deads. Lets you get more work in especially on the last/heaviest work set without having your grip hold you back. Especially on high volume days.
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A More Normal Bird
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I can't do pullups, they aggravate my shoulder and are none too kind on my hypermobile elbows either. So I'm stuck with chinups until I can rig up some rings for my home setup. Glorious independent neutral grip heaven awaits.
Given the gym in my building got flooded by Sandy and the next available gym has horrible equipment for back, I'm gonna have to double down on the basics and adopt this.
What sort of rest period timing do you use on this?
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
OH MY GOD
POUTINE OVERLOAD
Tried the 90sx20 on shoulder press and failed maybe next time.
POUTINE OVERLOAD
Tried the 90sx20 on shoulder press and failed maybe next time.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Rest, at least early on, isn't too long--maybe 30 seconds.
As I climbed into the higher rep range my rest was anywhere from one to two minutes. The main goal, at least when starting off, is to complete your intended number of reps no matter what. That means resting as long as you need to just to complete the required amount. Then worry about shortening the rest period.
After a while you can try your hand at one of the toughest upper-body routines I've seen (haven't tried it myself). For every pull-up, you do two push-ups immediately after, and rest.
1 pull-up followed by 2 push-ups
2 pull-ups followed by 4 push-ups
3 pull-ups followed by 6 push-ups
And so on.
By the end of the pyramid you'll have done 100 pull-ups and 200 push-ups.
I can't wait to start cutting man. I'm happy that I lost a bunch of weight this year but I'm still not happy with my size. I just don't wanna be fat anymore lol. I will say though that lifting heavy and eating everything in sight is nice bahahaha. Got about another 8 weeks on this bulk before I planned to cut. Don't know if I wanna cut it short or not. Just gonna keep going and see how I feel.
Weird, thought every mcfit had a pull up bar at the cable crossover stations.
Been cutting a week now. Haven't had any problems and been able to lift pretty well. Even managed a few rep increases which is nice even though my calories are pretty low. Yesterday we had a small halloween party which meant that I cheated/binged a bit. But it's just one day so it shouldn't be that big a deal.
This morning I was thinking about going for a fasted walk to burn some extra calories but GF suggested fasted sex instead.
This morning I was thinking about going for a fasted walk to burn some extra calories but GF suggested fasted sex instead.
Didn't go for a walk..
are you a stalker or did you recognize the klitscko advertising? XD
well, I haven't seen a pull up bar anywhere, that thing is the closest there is to that but I'll look around around just to be sure.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Quick question: why not do ladder sets as opposed to pyramids? Bunching all the harder work seems inefficient to me.
Example: if I wanted to do 30 pull ups I'd do 1 2 3 4 5 followed by 1 2 3 4 5. I feel like this would be better than 1234554321 because you aren't bunching up all the hard work thus you'd get to do more reps in less time as your body somewhat recovers during the lower rep sets. What do you guys think?
Example: if I wanted to do 30 pull ups I'd do 1 2 3 4 5 followed by 1 2 3 4 5. I feel like this would be better than 1234554321 because you aren't bunching up all the hard work thus you'd get to do more reps in less time as your body somewhat recovers during the lower rep sets. What do you guys think?
I was itching to suggests ladders as an alternative. Personally I've been a fan as they can fend off fatigue for a little longer quite well. One might not be able to do 100 pull-ups in a pyramid while being able to do a ladder with the same amount of overall reps. It's easier to climb back up at "1-2-3-4.." after rep ten than doing another "9-8-7..." if you aren't able to do as many pull-ups in the first place.
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