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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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nomis

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1 pull-up followed by 2 push-ups
2 pull-ups followed by 4 push-ups
3 pull-ups followed by 6 push-ups

And so on.

By the end of the pyramid you'll have done 100 pull-ups and 200 push-ups.

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abuC

Member
Just woke up a little a while ago, will be going to the gym later, no gas so I have to walk 4-5 miles each way to get there.
 

Petrie

Banned
Women's ideas of how lifting weights works are so silly. My g/f this morning at the gym:

"You're looking strong and athletic, I don't want you to get John Cena huge"

Yes sweetie, now that I have some muscle on me, I better slow it down because obviously the next step is:
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Big concern of mine.
 

Enco

Member
Women's ideas of how lifting weights works are so silly. My g/f this morning at the gym:

"You're looking strong and athletic, I don't want you to get John Cena huge"

Yes sweetie, now that I have some muscle on me, I better slow it down because obviously the next step is:
elddopov.jpg


Big concern of mine.
Everyone (EVERYONE) that has never lifted thinks this. Even those who aren't big into lifting think this.

"I only go gym once a week because I don't want to be bulky"
 

Cudder

Member
I see them doing curls with like 1-2 lb dumbbells all the time. What's the point of that??

My girlfriend does that and it makes me sad. I try to get her to up the weight a little bit but we go to different gyms so she ends up doing what she wants most of the time.
 

sphinx

the piano man
"You're looking strong and athletic, I don't want you to get John Cena huge"

Yes sweetie, now that I have some muscle on me, I better slow it down because obviously the next step is

Big concern of mine.

well, in theory you could get as big, the only bit of info your girlfriend is missing is that it takes years and years of dedication and commitment to that.

she probably doesn't care if it takes long or not, she just doesn't want you to get too huge, I thinks that's the reason why she says that, not because she thinks muscles will suddenly begin appearing in your body out of nowhere :D
 

Stridone

Banned
So is Starting Strength still the #1 recommendation for beginners? I used to do the SS routine but after a year or so I lost motivation and quit, in part because it got very repetitive and I stalled on most of the exercises.

Looking to get back into lifting now, any other beginners routine you would recommend or should I just get back to Starting Strength? My general goal is pretty much putting on alot of size with a nice chunk of strength (but some emphasis on size).
 

despire

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So is Starting Strength still the #1 recommendation for beginners? I used to do the SS routine but after a year or so I lost motivation and quit, in part because it got very repetitive and I stalled on most of the exercises.

Looking to get back into lifting now, any other beginners routine you would recommend or should I just get back to Starting Strength? My general goal is pretty much putting on alot of size with a nice chunk of strength (but some emphasis on size).

You could consider Greyskull LP. Similar to SS but there's some tweaks. There is some info on it in the OP.
 

Petrie

Banned
well, in theory you could get as big, the only bit of info your girlfriend is missing is that it takes years and years of dedication and commitment to that.

she probably doesn't care if it takes long or not, she just doesn't want you to get too huge, I thinks that's the reason why she says that, not because she thinks muscles will suddenly begin appearing in your body out of nowhere :D

I truly don't believe I have the genes to ever be that big. Period. Lol

Also keep in mind Fitgaf that it is now November, meaning most grocery stores will have whole turkeys for dirt cheap. I stock up and take care of my protein needs for months ahead. So great.
 

Noema

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You could consider Greyskull LP. Similar to SS but there's some tweaks. There is some info on it in the OP.

I think Greyskull LP is great for someone who has already stalled on SS but isn't quite yet ready for something like Texas Method or 531.

The AMRAP set actually makes me look forward to resets. Nothing like doing 12 or 13 reps with a weight you could barely do 3 or 4 reps on a month before.
 

Petrie

Banned
So is Starting Strength still the #1 recommendation for beginners? I used to do the SS routine but after a year or so I lost motivation and quit, in part because it got very repetitive and I stalled on most of the exercises.

Looking to get back into lifting now, any other beginners routine you would recommend or should I just get back to Starting Strength? My general goal is pretty much putting on alot of size with a nice chunk of strength (but some emphasis on size).

I'd ask, how long have you been away from the gym?

Makes a big difference.
 
hey guys I feel bored and weak and not in the mood.

I was talking to the nutritionist at the gym who advised that you may wanna speak to your doctor and get blood test to check testosterone levels.

Can someone advise?
 

sphinx

the piano man
What's the fastest way to do this gaf?:

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I've never been able to stretch my legs 180°

die, reborn and start doing either martial arts, or gymnastics or ballet before you turn 9 years old and don't ever quit stretching, never, ever.

other than that, if you still have motivation, just stretch daily for around 20 minutes using a high bar to stretch your legs and make sure that all other muscles, specially your back, is active while you are at it.

once your body isn't rusty anymore (were are talking months here) you can begin trying harder positions, like that 180° leg spread.

but is a process as long as any other art or sport thing. it can take years for you to reach that position, if at all. I've been stretching ever since I began workout 5 months ago and while better fliexibity is noticeable, it REALLY takes time.

I have the ambition to do a complete split once in my life and it's a very hard nut to crack... very hard.
 

Veezy

que?
So is Starting Strength still the #1 recommendation for beginners? I used to do the SS routine but after a year or so I lost motivation and quit, in part because it got very repetitive and I stalled on most of the exercises.

Looking to get back into lifting now, any other beginners routine you would recommend or should I just get back to Starting Strength? My general goal is pretty much putting on alot of size with a nice chunk of strength (but some emphasis on size).

I might get crucified for this, but I hate SS. Too boring, has no realistic longevity, and is inferior to Grayskull LP in both motivation purposes and personalization purposes.

Now, the book explains the lifts incredibly well (almost too well) and the program is great for a few months to get the basics down or to kinda force yourself to get close to your max weight on the lifts, but think GS is better overall. That, and Johnny Pain doesn't have the mentality of "just do these lifts and eat 5k calories day and do nothing else."
 

Petrie

Banned
I might get crucified for this, but I hate SS. Too boring, has no realistic longevity, and is inferior to Grayskull LP in both motivation purposes and personalization purposes.

Now, the book explains the lifts incredibly well (almost too well) and the program is great for a few months to get the basics down or to kinda force yourself to get close to your max weight on the lifts, but think GS is better overall. That, and Johnny Pain doesn't have the mentality of "just do these lifts and eat 5k calories day and do nothing else."

I couldn't disagree more. What do you find boring about SS? You constantly up the weight, and there's enough variety, plus you don't do too many sets of anything anyways.
 

despire

Member
I was bored today so I took Wendler's bodybuilding template for 5/3/1 and applied it to Greyskull LP with some minor changes. So it's basically same as 5/3/1 Bodybuilding (all 4 main lifts on different days) but with Greyskull's 5x, 5x, AMRAP rep scheme instead of 5/3/1. Every one of the 4 workout days starts with a compound lift and is accompanied by assistance moves. Split is: Shoulders/Biceps, Back, Chest/Triceps and Legs/Abs as per Wendler.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19470610/Greyskull_BB.pdf

I was thinking that I might start doing this sometime next year when I get my cut out of the way first. Late spring perhaps. Any comments? Would this template work with Greyskull as well? I'm mainly concerned about doing each of the main lifts only once a week (if I can manage to go 4x a week to the gym).


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SS is a fine program but Greyskull is superior after the trainee has trained for a few months IMO. I would switch over to GSLP after the first deload or so.
 

Veezy

que?
I couldn't disagree more. What do you find boring about SS? You constantly up the weight, and there's enough variety, plus you don't do too many sets of anything anyways.

It's five exercises. For five reps. For three sets. When you reset, it's the exact same thing you already did a month or so ago. Eventually, you might add pull ups, to supplement as an alternate to the cleans and deads. So then it's six exercises, at that point for X reps.

No encouragement to do any sort of conditioning. No addition of any accessory exercises. No outside work except for those three exercises you're doing that day. It's just not solid programming for anybody who knows the lifts well as you'll plateau quicker, you have no real technique to get past that point except "start over," and if you want to do anything outside of those lifts then at that point you're not doing the program any more.

To each their own, and I agree it's incredible for learning the lifts and finding a good starting point for other programming, but as a starting program to be dedicated to for the long run I don't like it.


I was bored today so I took Wendler's bodybuilding template for 5/3/1 and applied it to Greyskull LP with some minor changes. So it's basically same as 5/3/1 Bodybuilding (all 4 main lifts on different days) but with Greyskull's 5x, 5x, AMRAP rep scheme instead of 5/3/1. Every one of the 4 workout days starts with a compound lift and is accompanied by assistance moves. Split is: Shoulders/Biceps, Back, Chest/Triceps and Legs/Abs as per Wendler.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19470610/Greyskull_BB.pdf

I was thinking that I might start doing this sometime next year when I get my cut out of the way first. Late spring perhaps. Any comments? Would this template work with Greyskull as well? I'm mainly concerned about doing each of the main lifts only once a week (if I can manage to go 4x a week to the gym).

Why don't you do the standard template, add two accessory exercises after the main two lifts, and only do it three days a week? Then, on the off days, you can either walk for a few miles or do some conditioning?

But, yea, it'll work. You'll probably want to do larger jumps when you start, and then get a hold of some 2.5lb or 1lb plates to make tiny jumps later on.
 

despire

Member
Why don't you do the standard template, add two accessory exercises after the main two lifts, and only do it three days a week? Then, on the off days, you can either walk for a few miles or do some conditioning?

But, yea, it'll work. You'll probably want to do larger jumps when you start, and then get a hold of some 2.5lb or 1lb plates to make tiny jumps later on.

That is what I'm doing now. Or was doing until I started my cut and reduced the volume to just the main two lifts and one accessory lift/movement.

With this I was just playing around and wanted to see what it would look like or if it would work. Anyway I'm interested in adding more hypertrophy in the future to accompany the strength work. But yeah, I might just be sticking with the 2 main lifts + 2 accessory lifts template. We'll see :)
 
Moving sucks. My diet has been awful and I've haven't been to the gym in 4 days.

On the plus side I've been lifting so much heavy shit that I definitely don't need to do back or legs this week.
 

sphinx

the piano man
Yea they think that if you train like a man, you'll become some sort of androgynous freak of a woman. Not happening without exogenous hormones.

but how come they don't notice their bodies aren't like those that appear in fitness advertising??

I'd question my workout immediately if I went there for some months and didn't see any changes, which would definitely be the case if I only used the smallest dumbbells and the smallest weight possible on every machine.

some people believe "doing something" is what counts, I guess.
 

IceCold

Member
Yea they think that if you train like a man, you'll become some sort of androgynous freak of a woman. Not happening without exogenous hormones.

Which is why it's our duty to educate them about the wonders of doing squats and dead lifts. I hate crossfit for a lot of reasons but at least it makes women do compound exercises.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Any good accessory workouts to improve bench pressing?

Incline, DB press, dips, LTE, CGBP, OHP, floor presses, etc.

Best thing for improving bench is increasing tricep strength imo. But of course that all depends on where your "sticking point" is.
 

Cudder

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Incline, DB press, dips, LTE, CGBP, OHP, floor presses, etc.

Best thing for improving bench is increasing tricep strength imo. But of course that all depends on where your "sticking point" is.

Shoulders too, no? If you think about it that's where all the weight is anyway.
 

despire

Member
My GF is weird (in a good way) in that she can't understand how anyone would think that flailing 2lb dumbbells around would do you any good. So it wasn't that hard to convince her to do heavy compound lifts when she said she wanted to start going to the gym with me.


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I see my best results in increasing my bench when I did high rep dips as an assistance work. 50-100 total reps per workout.
 

sphinx

the piano man
talking about significant others, do you guys demand from your partners to be into fitness like you are??

I am single and I constantly ask myself whether it would be an issue if someone comes to my life but doesn't like to move.. at all.. on one side, I think is a very superficial reason to be dissatisfied, on the other hand, I want someone by my side that understands that good quality life doesn't come for free, specially as we get older.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
talking about significant others, do you guys demand from your partners to be into fitness like you are??

I am single and I constantly ask myself whether it would be an issue if someone comes to my life but doesn't like to move.. at all.. on one side, I think is a very superficial reason to be dissatisfied, on the other hand, I want someone by my side that understands that good quality life doesn't come for free, specially as we get older.

No, "demanding" anything from a SO is a recipe for disaster.
 

Petrie

Banned
talking about significant others, do you guys demand from your partners to be into fitness like you are??

I am single and I constantly ask myself whether it would be an issue if someone comes to my life but doesn't like to move.. at all.. on one side, I think is a very superficial reason to be dissatisfied, on the other hand, I want someone by my side that understands that good quality life doesn't come for free, specially as we get older.

I don't demand that, but I don't think I could be with someone that didn't at least attempt to take care of themselves. Between fitness and my diabetes, I need healthy influences around me, makes a huge difference.

As SeanR and I have discussed in here though, we DO NOT recommend training/lifting together. Recipe for disaster.

This, right here, this. Never ever attempt to train them. Dark paths, that road leads. Encouraging is good though, if they ask for it

And boom, there it is.
 

Dany

Banned
Is cardio/weight lifting the same day a bad thing? As in, I run for 30 minutes to an hour then break and would want to lift afterwards. I'm not trying to be he-man and I've tried alternating days but I dunno, I like doing both in the same day :/
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Is cardio/weight lifting the same day a bad thing? As in, I run for 30 minutes to an hour then break and would want to lift afterwards. I'm not trying to be he-man and I've tried alternating days but I dunno, I like doing both in the same day :/

No. Also, yes.

It all depends on your goals. But in general, no.
 
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