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[Petrie]

Yeah, I tried doing them in the past with no results. I saw more improvement when I was playing basketball 1-2 hours per day, but the weather is horrible as of late. I can only stand to jog in the morning.

Something like basketball for 2 hours will do more for weightloss than any number of crunches you could feasibly do.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Still waiting to hear back about the job. Interview went well. They even fingerprinted me and showed me a video of the physical test I'd have to take in Glynco Georgia. I should hear a yes or no in the next week and a half.

Reset my programming and starting 5/3/1 fresh this week. Squats are low as expected, my FS is even out pacing my back squat atm. Finished today with 295x8 for benchpress and three sets of 10 weighted dips wearing 90 lbs in plates. Felt good.

 

[Petrie]

did I ever say its possible to spot reduce fat? anywhere in my post?

in fact I think I said a complete workout routine does the trick to fix the form of the body

here:

You said crunches help. They don't. No matter what you said after, you're spreading false information.

Following false info up with something correct doesn't take away the false info, it actually just makes the correct info less credible.

 

[beanman25]

Something like basketball for 2 hours will do more for weightloss than any number of crunches you could feasibly do.

I'll try to tough it out in the middle of the day even though it'll be super cold. Am I correct in thinking that you burn more fat while it's cold? Because you're body is trying to stay warm?

 

[Petrie]

I'll try to tough it out in the middle of the day even though it'll be super cold. Am I correct in thinking that you burn more fat while it's cold? Because you're body is trying to stay warm?

No idea about that, and if so it'd be a negligible amount, but your main focus should be cleaning up your diet. That's where the results will come from.

 

[sphinx]

You said crunches help. They don't. No matter what you said after, you're spreading false information.

Following false info up with something correct doesn't take away the false info, it actually just makes the correct info less credible.

Petrie, I am trying to keep this civil but you make it really hard.

crunches HELPED ME, are you fucking blind?? can't you see the before pic I posted with belly and the after pic where there is no belly?? Like I said, I started jogging 30 minutes at 7.5 mhp, together with that, I started doing crunches and push-ups, not many but a few. After a month, my belly was gone and instead of a belly I had a normal torso shape, I didn't do any dieting.

What is my proof that crunches helped?? that I had been jogging on and off for the last 10 years and the belly always remained, it was only by adding crunches and push-ups that my body got in another (better) shape.

I suggested NOT to do crunches alone because that won't bring him anywhere, the only part I could maybe change from my post is where I say " It's better than nothing, I guess" (and I even said, I guess)

you are acusing me of spreading nonsense when there is clear proof that I went through it and saw the changes in my body as they happened? and with pics?? lol, in another thread that would get you banned. You sound really butthurt, get over yourself.

 

[ArachosiA 78]

Is it more difficult to burn fat that has been on your body for a longer period? I started getting fat when I was 11, and unlike most men, most of that accumulated in my lower body. It seems like no matter what I do, the lower body fat just won't budge, but I wonder if it's ebacsue I've had it for 22 years now. Is it ever going to be possible to get rid of this or will I need to resort to liposuction?

 

[Petrie]

Petrie, I am trying to keep this civil but you make it really hard.

crunches HELPED ME, are you fucking blind?? can't you see the before pic I posted with belly and the after pic where there is no belly?? Like I said, I started jogging 30 minutes at 7.5 mhp, together with that, I started doing crunches and push-ups, not many but a few. After a month, my belly was gone and instead of a belly I had a normal torso shape, I didn't do any dieting.

What is my proof that crunches helped?? that I had been jogging on and off for the last 10 years and the belly always remained, it was only by adding crunches and pull-ups that my body got in another (better) shape.

I suggested NOT to do crunches alone because that won't bring him anywhere, the only part I could maybe change from my post is where I say " It's better than nothing, I guess" (and I even said, I guess)

you are acusing me of spreading nonsense when there is clear proof that I went through it and saw the changes in my body as they happened? and with pics?? lol, in another thread that would get you banned. You sound really butthurt, get over yourself.

Anecdotal evidence is not proof. The science disagrees with you, and unless you tracked every single thing you ate, every activity, everything, all you can tell us is you were doing crunches and also lost belly fat. Correlation is not the same as causation. I could tell you I played Halo 4 all day for a week and lost 5 lbs. That does NOT mean Halo 4 caused the weight loss, just like you doing crunches doesn't mean they are the reason for the weight loss. This is how misinformation like this spreads.

It's great you've seen results, but science says the crunches are not the reason, and spreading that false info is the issue here.

You'd need to change any part of your post indicating crunches are going to be beneficial to losing belly fat, otherwise you are spreading misinformation. Common misinfo, but misinfo nonetheless.

Correcting false info would not get me banned. That's just silly.

 

[fredrancour]

Is it more difficult to burn fat that has been on your body for a longer period? I started getting fat when I was 11, and unlike most men, most of that accumulated in my lower body. It seems like no matter what I do, the lower body fat just won't budge, but I wonder if it's ebacsue I've had it for 22 years now. Is it ever going to be possible to get rid of this or will I need to resort to liposuction?

It might be harder to shake long-lasting weight because bad habits will be more ingrained, but physiologically, I don't think it'll work that way. I have no idea what determines where fat settles on you, but a clean diet, cardio, and strength training applied properly should still be able to get rid of it. I'm confident you can do it.

If you want more detailed help, tell GAF what you do for food and exercise.

 

[Tashi]

Something like basketball for 2 hours will do more for weightloss than any number of crunches you could feasibly do.

Yea basketball can seriously kick your ass. Definitely looking to play at my Gym myself this winter. I usually do tennis outside in the sprint and summer.

 

[Petrie]

Is it more difficult to burn fat that has been on your body for a longer period? I started getting fat when I was 11, and unlike most men, most of that accumulated in my lower body. It seems like no matter what I do, the lower body fat just won't budge, but I wonder if it's ebacsue I've had it for 22 years now. Is it ever going to be possible to get rid of this or will I need to resort to liposuction?

Your lower body fat is going to be just like the belly fat of other posters on this page. That's genetically where you store first, and will then be the last to go. Clean up the diet more, keep at it, and results will come.

 

[ArachosiA 78]

It might be harder to shake long-lasting weight because bad habits will be more ingrained, but physiologically, I don't think it'll work that way. I have no idea what determines where fat settles on you, but a clean diet, cardio, and strength training applied properly should still be able to get rid of it. I'm confident you can do it.

If you want more detailed help, tell GAF what you do for food and exercise.

Thanks. My diet is about 1,900 calories per day. Consists of eggs, oatmeal, chicken breasts, sweet potatos, broccoli, blueberries, almonds, skim milk and whey protein.

For weight training, I follow the 5X5 Stronglifts program

For cardio, I do both HIIT and long-distance lower intensity cardio.

 

[sphinx]

Anecdotal evidence is not proof. The science disagrees with you, and unless you tracked every single thing you ate, every activity, everything, all you can tell us is you were doing crunches and also lost belly fat. Correlation is not the same as causation. I could tell you I played Halo 4 all day for a week and lost 5 lbs. That does NOT mean Halo 4 caused the weight loss, just like you doing crunches doesn't mean they are the reason for the weight loss. his is how misinformation like this spreads.

It's great you've seen results, but science says the crunches are not the reason, and spreading that false info is the issue here.

Correcting false info would not get me banned. That's just silly.

we are not even talking about the same thing.

I have never said crunches will help you lose body fat or weight, I meant they help a person change the form of their torso/upper body, and that they help when put in context of a proper diet (when truly overweight, which I wasn't) and a decent cardio routine (what I meant complete workout routine), and so much is true.

you are not correcting me, you are accusing me of spreading nonsense because you somehow decided to understand from my post that I suggested he should do 1000 crunches each day and lose pounds that way, which is some fucking nonsense and I never said that.

but the most laughable thing is your attitude, dude, you don't have all the truth and again, get over yourself and get down of your high horse already, you have scared enough people from here since you've been here.

 

[fredrancour]

Thanks. My diet is about 1,900 calories per day. Consists of eggs, oatmeal, chicken breasts, sweet potatos, broccoli, blueberries, almonds, skim milk and whey protein.

For weight training, I follow the 5X5 Stronglifts program

For cardio, I do both HIIT and long-distance lower intensity cardio.

My first guess is that you're overestimating your body fat percentage and that stronglifts is adding enough muscle that your legs haven't changed in appearance yet. Maybe the muscles have gotten bigger and the fat's gone down but not heavily enough to give definition. How long have you been doing this?

 

[Petrie]

we are not even talking about the same thing.

I have never said crunches will help you lose body fat or weight, I meant they help a person change the form of their torso/upper body, and that they help when put in context of a proper diet (when truly overweight, which I wasn't) and a decent cardio routine (what I meant complete workout routine), and so much is true.

you are not correcting me, you are accusing me of spreading nonsense because you somehow decided to understand from my post that I suggested he should do 1000 crunches each day and lose pounds that way, which is some fucking nonsense and I never said that.

but the most laughable thing is your attitude, dude, you don't have all the truth and again, get over yourself and get down of your high horse already, you have scared enough people from here since you've been here.

Thats not what you communicated. He asked about weight loss and belly fat, and you said that crunches help. What you "meant" isn't the issue. The misinformation conveyed in what you said is.

You want to clarify now, great. But all I did was ask you not to spread false info. I'm sorry that offends you somehow, but I was polite in doing so.

You're bringing attitude, I'm simply bringing facts.

 

[Mully]

we are not even talking about the same thing.

I have never said crunches will help you lose body fat or weight, I meant they help a person change the form of their torso/upper body, and that they help when put in context of a proper diet (when truly overweight, which I wasn't) and a decent cardio routine (what I meant complete workout routine), and so much is true.

you are not correcting me, you are accusing me of spreading nonsense because you somehow decided to understand from my post that I suggested he should do 1000 crunches each day and lose pounds that way, which is some fucking nonsense and I never said that.

but the most laughable thing is your attitude, dude, you don't have all the truth and again, get over yourself and get down of your high horse already, you have scared enough people from here since you've been here.

The only person with the attitude in this thread is you. Besides Twix's outburst, we have been extremely polite with you. The same cannot be said for yourself. On multiple occasions, you have stated how horrible this thread is after we've attempted to advise you on your routine. Again and again though, you come back looking for advice.

Throwing a tantrum and trying to crucify a poster who was only trying to delineate your bro-science as false is not the best way to make friends in this thread. Stop acting like a child.

 

[mooooose]

What does everyone think of the ab wheel? I started doing it on my Deadlift days like Jim Wendler suggested and my abs are on fire.

 

[fredrancour]

What does everyone think of the ab wheel? I started doing it on my Deadlift days like Jim Wendler suggested and my abs are on fire.

Hellishly painful. If you have the willpower to carry out training with it, props to you.

 

[A More Normal Bird]

No one should be doing hundreds of crunches anyway, for a number of reasons. Low strength response, uncommon/inefficient movement pattern, low hypertrophy stimulus and repeated spinal flexion are just a few. Static holds such as planks are much better for beginners. Once abdominal strength becomes a limiting factor in other lifts or activities, something like weighted situps performed as a strength exercise (ie low reps) can be useful.

Recommending crunches to someone whose initial question is about losing weight has a pretty clear implication and sphinx should not have been offended when people dispute that implication, even if that wasn't his actual intent.

EDIT: I made myself an ab wheel using various bits and pieces. When using it after deadlifts knees and a wall become essential pretty quick.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I don't mean to interject, but the only person with the attitude in this thread is you. Besides Twix's outburst, we have been extremely polite with you. The same cannot be said for yourself. On multiple occasions, you have stated how horrible this thread is after we've attempted to advise you on your routine. Again and again though, you come back looking for advice.

Throwing a tantrum and trying to crucify a poster who was only trying to delineate your bro-science as false is not the best way to make friends in this thread. Stop acting like a child.

Glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this.

What does everyone think of the ab wheel? I started doing it on my Deadlift days like Jim Wendler suggested and my abs are on fire.

It's a great tool, and you can make one yourself dirt cheap.

 

[Petrie]

Thanks for letting me know I wasn't crazy or out of line guys. I was rereading to see where I might have offended and couldn't find anything out of line given what he had said.

I reiterate to the poster: doing something and seeing a result does not mean the thing you did brought the result unless you very carefully monitor all other variables. This is very important to realize.

 

[ArachosiA 78]

My first guess is that you're overestimating your body fat percentage and that stronglifts is adding enough muscle that your legs haven't changed in appearance yet. Maybe the muscles have gotten bigger and the fat's gone down but not heavily enough to give definition. How long have you been doing this?

That would make sense, except I'm operating at a calorie deficit, thus shouldnt be gaining muscle. I've been doing this for about 6 months, with a few mess ups along the way.

 

[Petrie]

That would make sense, except I'm operating at a calorie deficit, thus shouldnt be gaining muscle. I've been doing this for about 6 months, with a few mess ups along the way.

This will be true later, but a beginner can build muscle, even at a deficit.

 

[Pavaloo]

Is it bad that my deadlift and squat are the same weight?

 

[Petrie]

Is it bad that my deadlift and squat are the same weight?

Not bad, just means you have imbalances to likely work on.

 

[sphinx]

seeing how many have taken a side, I will stop now after saying two things, one, that I was misunderstood and two, I have taken advice from many guys here and have been grateful for it, I hope they know it.

EDIT: and yeah, I should definitely use this thread in a different way if I want to stick around.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

I haven't done cardio in 2 months. Bulking till at least December 1st. It's strange looking at myself in the mirror. I haven't lost definition much in my abs, but I am clearly holding more subcutaneous fat than before, even got a little bit of a muffin top going :/. Urge to cut rising.

 

[Pavaloo]

Not bad, just means you have imbalances to likely work on.

Would you recommend that I deload on squats and just continue deadlifts at their current weight? I'm thinking fixing the imbalances would help with comfort in the long run.

 

[MrToughPants]

What does everyone think of the ab wheel? I started doing it on my Deadlift days like Jim Wendler suggested and my abs are on fire.

Tried them once and cracked the wheel with 90+lbs stacked on my back.

I'd get one that was metal with a proper bearing that can support a heavy load.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

seeing how many have taken a side, I will stop now after saying two things, one, that I was misunderstood and two, I have taken advice from many guys here and have been grateful for it, I hope they know it.

EDIT: and yeah, I should definitely use this thread in a different way if I want to stick around.

It's not about sides man. Just move on its not worth the headache. This is a place where you definitely have to roll with the posts though, it's just te nature of the culture.

 

[Petrie]

It's not about sides man. Just move on its not worth the headache. This is a place where you definitely have to roll with the posts though, it's just te nature of the culture.

Yep. We all want the best information possible in order to achieve our goals, and that's what matters at the end of the day. Nobody is taking sides, we're just trying to continue a culture here that debunks broscience and encourages real facts and science.

 

[Nemo]

Anyone here use bee pollen? A good friend of mine who is like a fitness guru recommended it as a super, almost perfect, food. I'm definitely willing to try it out since it also seems to reduce hay fever which I have

 

[sphinx]

It's not about sides man. Just move on its not worth the headache. This is a place where you definitely have to roll with the posts though, it's just te nature of the culture.

thanks.

I just don't understand why is this thread so complicated for me, I just wanted to share my story with the guy that wanted to get rid of the belly, nothing more nothing less, I mentioned I did crunches among other things and yet again another uproar, after the incident of a few days. I have to wonder, what is going on here, am I doing something wrong? am I writing too much?? maybe I am too sensitive and like you say, just have to roll with the posts?

it's sad because I really like to share and read and learn but I don't know, it's hard, I want to stay here and enjoy this passion (new for me) that we have in common but I have to reconsider, if it happens to me then most probably I am the one who has to make a change.

anyway, I feel like I owe the regulars that have tried to help me in the past an apology for saying one too many times this thread is bad or horrible, in one way or another. I am sorry.

 

[kylej]

one arm db rows make me so damn tired

 

[Petrie]

thanks.

I just don't understand why is this thread so complicated for me, I just wanted to share my story with the guy that wanted to get rid of the belly, nothing more nothing less, I mentioned I did crunches among other things and yet again another uproar, after the incident of a few days. I have to wonder, what is going on here, am I doing something wrong? am I writing too much?? maybe I am too sensitive and like you say, just have to roll with the posts?

it's sad because I really like to share and read and learn but I don't know, it's hard, I want to stay here and enjoy this passion (new for me) that we have in common but I have to reconsider, if it happens to me then most probably I am the one who has to make a change.

anyway, I feel like I owe the regulars that have tried to help me in the past an apology for saying one too many times this thread is bad or horrible, in one way or another. I am sorry.

The issue is how you presented it. He asked about losing his belly, and the first words of your response were that crunches help. When you begin a statement with something that is false, is makes anything else you say suspect. It ruins your credibility. This is made worse because the other info you provided was good and solid, but you make all the info seem bad because how can you trust info when the first part of it is flat out wrong?

You didn't present it as a story. You didn't say "I did this and this and this and lost my belly", you said "crunches help". How you present info matters. I'm genuinely happy you are getting results. Seriously. That's fucking awesome. I'm even more stoked you want to help others get results. That's fantastic. You just need to make sure you're bringing them credible info and not anecdotal evidence, or broscience, as we call it.

I'll say it once more because it's really important: doing something and seeing a result does not mean the "something" caused the result. This is the no. 1 most important thing here. You need carefully controlled variables to reach such a conclusion.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

one arm db rows make me so damn tired

I recently added them back in. Love them turns me into a sweat factory.

 

[LeroyPantwether]

so, the handstand-pushup is officially in my repertoire, I did 4x10 last time. I had no problems going up and down, but the move is really hard on the wrists... something I really don't like considering I play the piano for a living...

For wrist pain --> stretch more, or get/build a small set a PVC parallel bars to do them on, bonus the parallel bars add way more range of motion to the exercise, but obviously only go as low as comfortable on your shoulders

something like this

https://www.google.com/search?q=pvc...AQ&biw=768&bih=928#biv=i|11;d|CWktVyFMgzeHRM:

 

[sphinx]

The issue is how you presented it. He asked about losing his belly, and the first words of your response were that crunches help. When you begin a statement with something that is false, is makes anything else you say suspect. It ruins your credibility. This is made worse because the other info you provided was good and solid, but you make all the info seem bad because how can you trust info when the first part of it is flat out wrong?

You didn't present it as a story. You didn't say "I did this and this and this and lost my belly", you said "crunches help". How you present info matters. I'm genuinely happy you are getting results. Seriously. That's fucking awesome. I'm even more stoked you want to help others get results. That's fantastic. You just need to make sure you're bringing them credible info and not anecdotal evidence, or broscience, as we call it.

I'll say it once more because it's really important: doing something and seeing a result does not mean the "something" caused the result. This is the no. 1 most important thing here. You need carefully controlled variables to reach such a conclusion.

I agree with this, you are right, I guess I just have to give more thought to what I write... not just impulse-post something I think could/might be helpful.

and everyone, I hope we are cool and that there are no hard feelings over this. I'll try and do my part to keep this a nice place.

Could you use some sort of push up handles so that your wrists are straight? That would eliminate any strain on the wrists.

For wrist pain --> stretch more, or get/build a small set a PVC parallel bars to do them on, bonus the parallel bars add way more range of motion to the exercise, but obviously only go as low as comfortable on your shoulders

something like this

https://www.google.com/search?q=pvc...AQ&biw=768&bih=928#biv=i|11;d|CWktVyFMgzeHRM:

I have three options here, I can use the one double bar machine we have in the gym (see pic, the middle handles a perfect for it)

but I am a bit afraid.. of falling on my face, I may try it if there's noone around, otherwise it might be dangerous for everyone.

there are some black cushions to lay on them and do crunches P) and other bodyweight things, I tried the HS-PU on them because I thought that my wrists would feel more comfortable but no, I tried them on plain floor and was better. Tomorrow I'll do them again and see how it goes. I think the most important thing is not to do them while I am almost at the end of the session, that is one move I don't want to do while exhausted...

Thanks for your help.

 

[Petrie]

Reposting from the last page:

Fitgaf, I need your help:

My brother has been trying to lose weight and get in shape, and having seen my results, is finally willing to incorporate weight training into his work. However, he has only a Planet Fitness with their typical equipment available, and I'd like to help him with a beginner linear routine using what he has until he can financially manage something better.

Is such a routine available somewhere, or could someone help me build one for him?

Thank you as always Fitgaf.


As a side note, I must say, the first 6 months or so I bulked without concern for what or how much I ate has given me a real complex. I'm at a net 2850 cals a day and the scale is going up very slow, my machine has my body fat around 13%, yet I'm still afraid of raising my calories. Sucks. Going to go up to 3000 regardless, but man it worries me.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

one arm db rows make me so damn tired

Tell me about it. It's especially difficult after having done pendlay rows, dead lifts and t-bar rows x_x.

so much volume on back days.

 

[Petrie]

Tell me about it. It's especially difficult after having done pendlay rows, dead lifts and t-bar rows x_x.

so much volume on back days.

If I'm doing 5/3/1 BBB, with accessory work, do you think there's a day it'd be worth incorporating these?

I really want to work on my back size and that nice V.

 

[kylej]

if you think crunches will help you lose fat I've got a penis pump to sell you that'll make your dick 14 inches long

 

[Veezy]

Reposting from the last page:

Fitgaf, I need your help:

My brother has been trying to lose weight and get in shape, and having seen my results, is finally willing to incorporate weight training into his work. However, he has only a Planet Fitness with their typical equipment available, and I'd like to help him with a beginner linear routine using what he has until he can financially manage something better.

Is such a routine available somewhere, or could someone help me build one for him?

Thank you as always Fitgaf.


As a side note, I must say, the first 6 months or so I bulked without concern for what or how much I ate has given me a real complex. I'm at a net 2850 cals a day and the scale is going up very slow, my machine has my body fat around 13%, yet I'm still afraid of raising my calories. Sucks. Going to go up to 3000 regardless, but man it worries me.

Do you have an idea as to what equipment he has available at this location?

 

[Petrie]

Do you have an idea as to what equipment he has available at this location?

Dumbbells up to about 80lbs, benches, no olympic bars or equipment you'd need to squat or deadlift. Only machines and the smith. It's sadly very limiting. I'm checking if they have anything else, but its the typical pulldown stuff, pullup areas, etc, most planets fitness's have.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

If I'm doing 5/3/1 BBB, with accessory work, do you think there's a day it'd be worth incorporating these?

I really want to work on my back size and that nice V.

Yea, I'd do them on deadlift day, I think they're well worth it. Personally my lats and entire backside responds well to high volume. I've never done bbb myself, so on my split these exercises are done on my back and biceps day. I'm trying to improve my v tapper as well, although I think having a naturally wider waste kind of stiffles my efforts.

 

[LeroyPantwether]

I have three options here, I can use the one double bar machine we have in the gym (see pic, the middle handles a perfect for it)


but I am a bit afraid.. of falling on my face, I may try it if there's noone around, otherwise it might be dangerous for everyone.

there are some black cushions to lay on them and do crunches P) and other bodyweight things, I tried the HS-PU on them because I thought that my wrists would feel more comfortable but no, I tried them on plain floor and was better. Tomorrow I'll do them again and see how it goes. I think the most important thing is not to do them while I am almost at the end of the session, that is one move I don't want to do while exhausted...

Thanks for your help.

Spotter! get one, that seems a bit sketchy, and falling on your face with no one around seems pretty dangerous . I am sure someone at your gym would be happy to hold your feet. Furthermore, there are loads of other inverted exercises if you dig being upside down .
I really like pincha mayurasana pose ( forearm stand) ..easy on the wrists, and will make you feel like a ninja
--> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O41EbjcIwo

^ best example i could find , but imo the demonstrator should tuck his head in better, but you get the idea

 

[black_13]

How important is protein intake on a daily basis?

Right now I'm doing 2 day work out program
Day 1: 30 min running and 30 machine weights
Day 2: mix of weights and dumbells.

I go to the gym about 6 days a week but my weight loss has stopped. Protein intake is rather weak. I take about half a glass of protein shake a day. Even with it I think its low as I don't eat any meat and just a bit of chicken.

Should I find a better program or up my protein?

 

[Imm0rt4l]

How important is protein intake on a daily basis?

Right now I'm doing 2 day work out program
Day 1: 30 min running and 30 machine weights
Day 2: mix of weights and dumbells.

I go to the gym about 6 days a week but my weight loss has stopped. Protein intake is rather weak. I take about half a glass of protein shake a day. Even with it I think its low as I don't eat any meat and just a bit of chicken.

Should I find a better program or up my protein?

As far as building/maintaining muscle mass is concerned it's the most important macronutrient.

 

[mooooose]

I'm still a beginner and I started 5/3/1 BBB after doing SS for a little under a year and I like it much better. I was seeing less gains wtih SS. Am I wrong for thinking this way?

 

[Cudder]

How important is protein intake on a daily basis?

Right now I'm doing 2 day work out program
Day 1: 30 min running and 30 machine weights
Day 2: mix of weights and dumbells.

I go to the gym about 6 days a week but my weight loss has stopped. Protein intake is rather weak. I take about half a glass of protein shake a day. Even with it I think its low as I don't eat any meat and just a bit of chicken.

Should I find a better program or up my protein?

Wait, you are on a 2 day program and workout 6 days a week? Meaning you train your whole body 3 times a week?

How do you even train your whole body in 2 days (one of those days being 30mins worth of machines?)