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m0dus

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Long post incoming. I wrote this over the last few days, coming up on the 1 year mark of initiating substantial weight loss. Ignore if you like



I have been fat as long as I can really remember.

Thinking back, I can distantly recall my mother warning me about my weight when I started the 3rd grade, something which became a continuous theme whenever the subject of food or exercise came up throughout my adolescent and teenage years. I wasn't 'chubby' until I hit high-school. For the most part, my overeating was limited to what was readily available at school or around the house, since without an independent income or means of ready transportation, fast food was fairly unavailable to me until I turned 17, got a car, and got a job.

At that point, the doors flew wide open: fast food, social eating, late-night meals became the order of the day.

By the time I completed college, my peak weight was 226-227 lbs. At a height of 5'5.3", that placed my BMI squarely at 37.7, in the category of morbidly obese.

In my 4th year of medical school, spurned on by the newly reinforced fear of developing type 2 diabetes, I had attempted weight loss through exercise and some caloric restriction (drinking milk in the morning, a slim fast for lunch, then fish / protein for dinner). My results were initially encouraging, dropping my weight to a nadir of 195 after 3-4 months of hard work.

I maintained that for about 2 months before creeping back up to > 200 lbs.

Upon starting my internship, my exercising had about ceased entirely. The combined stress of the medical resident lifestyle (long hours, inconsistent meals, fatty foods, sedentary living) coupled with an increasingly cavalier attitude toward my general health created a situation that, within a year, left me back at a steady weight of 218-225 lbs. A brief stint with the South Beach diet dropped my weight to 213-14, but this was short lived.

By the time I graduated and moved on to fellowship, I was again back at my peak of 226 lbs.

I feel it important to note that, throughout this time of my life, I was aware that I was fat, however I was in a state of denial with regards to the degree of my obesity. To put it another way, my physical self image was so distorted that I literally could not see it in front of my face; Looking back, I have found surprisingly few pictures of myself to illustrate how large I was. I feel this is because seeing photographs of myself seemed at odds with my own distorted self image, and this conflict increased my subconscious anxiety about my weight to the point that I avoided the camera altogether.

6 months into my fellowship, I had lost all motivation to eat regular meals, restrict my dietary intake, or exercise. In addition, I was consumed by a slowly-burning depression that darkened my overall outlook beyond my next meal. I wore the same faded shirts and pants that I had in medical school (as I had no motivation to shop for fat-person clothes) . Type II DM was an inevitability, given my strong family history and my persistent obesity. I was developing shortness of breath, pain in my knees, and I was unable to sleep comfortably on my back because of trouble breathing when I did so.

There was no 'eureka' moment. I was a creature of habit, and not even my field of study (endocrinology and metabolism) motivated me to affect any changes to my lifestyle. I was well aware of the irony that I would be a morbidly obese physician telling his patients that they had to lose weight.

Thinking back on it now, the turning point came shortly after my 33rd birthday, which falls in mid-November. Thanksgiving with my family (my own on the day of, and my wife's extended family the following weekend) was a difficult time for me, as I was becoming more and more self conscious about my body. I gained little satisfaction from the lovingly prepared food placed before me, though I still overate when my hunger got the better of me. Losing weight was, at this point, the furthest thing from my mind.

Over the course of the last few months, I had become increasingly aware of how much money we were spending on food on a weekly basis. That, coupled with the surprising amount of spoiled food we had to throw away every week, had created a real concern that was at the forefront of my mind on our ride home from my extended family's thanksgiving weekend.

On the ride home, I discussed this concern with my wife, and we decided the best way to save money was to only buy the food we needed for the week (since most of our meats/veggies would expire in that time.). The next question was obvious: how would we determine how much food was enough? The simple answer was, if we started eating regular meals daily, and created weekly meal plans based around single servings of those foods, we could easily estimate how much we needed to buy each week. We created a list of those dinners we liked the most (Tacos, chili, rice dishes, etc), and did our shopping based upon how much beef / chicken / turkey / rice would be needed to create a 1 serving meal for each person each night for dinner. This generally equated to 2-3 16 oz packages of meat per week, and a bag of rice per month.

In order to be certain we weren't burning through our ingredients early in the week , we began using measuring cups, measuring spoons, and a kitchen scale to estimate actual serving sizes. I want to emphasize here that we still ate foods we liked, we merely exercised tighter portion control, and adhered to at least one scheduled mealtime.

I was in for a bit of a shock, then, when I stepped on our bathroom scale 1 month later and saw that I had lost 13 lbs.

Now, I had seen my weight fluctuate before, up to 6-7 lbs. As such, I didn't place too much stock in what was happening. We had stopped hemorrhaging money with our meal plan ( I refused to call it a 'diet,' since we were still eating out on a weekly basis) so I saw the weight loss as a welcome, if unexpected, side effect that would likely be fleeting.

I lost 10 lbs more the following month.

At this point, my weight was approaching 200 lbs, and I began to take notice. I began to wonder just how far this would go, given that prior experience (in my patients and myself) had shown me that restrictive diets simply didn't work (and if they did, they didn't last). So, I began keeping a food diary on my smartphone. The one I chose had the additional perk of setting a caloric limit based upon your current weight and your body's basal metabolic needs (utilizing the Harris-Benedict formula). I decided my goal would be a weight less than 200 lb.

When my weight dropped below 195 (my previous benchmark for weight loss 6 years prior) I began noticing a difference in how I felt on a day-to-day basis. My outlook was better. I was sleeping and breathing better. My knees stopped hurting. As such, I began a program of regular, low impact exercise which was comprised of walking on a 5% incline for 30 minutes 6 days a week. Still, I kept the knowledge of my weight loss between myself and my wife.

When my weight dropped below 185, I went wardrobe shopping for the first time in 5 years.

It was more out of necessity than anything else, as my work clothes no longer fit well, and it had begun to show. I asked my wife to come with me, to help me pick out a couple of dress shirts and a pair of pants with a new belt.

Prior to this I had been wearing a size 42 waist, which had been fairly tight (my actual waist size was likely closer to 43-44.) By our best estimates, we decided on a size 38 pants and a Large shirt.

Our estimates turned out to be too conservative, however, as the size 38 was too big. So was the size 36. We finally settled on a size 34, much to my continued shock and awe. My shirt size had dropped to a medium, meanwhile, which was a surprise unto itself.

This pattern of weight loss continued steadily over the subsequent 6 months. In addition to the meal plan we already had in place, I began purposely cutting out very calorie and carbohydrate dense foods, such as rice and pasta. We had long ago switched to whole grain foods, and I increased the proportion of protein and fresh fruits and vegetables in my diet. Whereas, previously, I never ate things like apples, carrots and broccoli, they became daily staples. I made a conscious effort to reduce my sodium intake as well, reducing my intake of processed / preserved foods. I also stopped salting my meals altogether.

I also steadily increased my activity level: I began walking for an hour daily on a 15% incline, and incorporating daily calisthenics into my regimen (push ups, sit-ups and, for the first time in my life, pull-ups).

The entire time, I continued my daily tracking of my calories, eating a regular breakfast, lunch, and dinner, without any 'grazing' behavior. I stepped on the scale daily, becoming intimately familiar with how certain foods might effect day-to-day fluctuations in my weight. I avoided restaurants and fast-food altogether. I packed my lunches (in a Scooby-Doo Mystery-Machine lunch box, much to the bemusement of my colleagues). Over the course of a a few months, this behavior evolved from something requiring focused effort toward lifestyle modification to a simple matter of habit.

Within 8 months, my BMI dropped below 25.

To say my life changed would be an understatement. People around me (especially those I did not see on a daily basis) began to take notice, offering words of encouragement and congratulations. On more than one occasion, I was regarded initially as a stranger by patients that I had taken care of only 6 months before, and by colleagues I hadn't seen in over a year. One of my attendings even pulled me aside to ask, bluntly, if I had cancer, so rapid was my weight loss.

My waist size subsequently dropped to 30, and my shirt size plummeted from medium, to small, to extra-small. I gave my entire wardrobe (including the size 34 pants and medium shirt I had been so proud of only a few months before ) to Good Will, and purchased designer clothes for the first time in my life. I stopped being camera-shy, and finally began to enjoy taking trips and taking pictures with my wife.

Fear of re-gaining the weight remained ever-present on my mind. I was well aware of weight loss trials which had demonstrated a strong propensity for those who lose weight through behavior modification to relapse within 3 to 5 months. As such, I continued to track my meals on a daily basis (if a diabetic on insulin could do it, why couldn't I?).

Looking back, I feel that, on the whole, beyond giving up a few of my favorite foods, I had to make few sacrifices along the way. The hardest part, to be honest, was giving up 'social eating' for a time. Going out to eat lunches and dinners with friends and family had to fall by the wayside, as the food was either too calorie rich, too difficult to measure or track. There was always the looming temptation to fall off course as well, and I felt the best remedy was to remove myself from the situation entirely.

9 months after my journey began, I finally reached my ideal weight for my frame.

I have loosened my restrictions on my meals to a small degree: once to twice a month, my wife and I have what we call an 'independence day' which consists of eating out at a restaurant, enjoying sweets, and not tracking the day's meal. This has revealed an unexpected benefit of our structured meal plan: Food, especially restaurant and even fast food, has become an event to be savored and enjoyed, without the post-meal guilt that used to taint eating out in the past.

Regardless, I've made a conscious decision to remain vigilant. Exercising every day with little to no exception, tracking my portions as a matter of maintaining rather than as a means of losing weight. I share this leg of life's journey in the hopes that it may prove useful to someone in a situation similar to my own.
 

blackflag

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Awesome man. Not gonna quote that huge post lol.

I agree with you and I think this is where many people go wrong. You don't need to give up that much to lose weight and get fit. You don't gotta starve yourself, you don't gotta do cardio for 2 hours everyday.

I was in your situation and once I realized this, the weight melted off.

Serious props man.


Best thing to do ever is track calories. And know what you need to maintain current weight and then subtract like 500. That shouldn't make anyone go through the day super hungry
 

MjFrancis

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Good read m0dus.

It's important that you've identified some behaviors that weren't in your best interest, and have continued to maintain some positive habits to prevent relapse. I hope you are able to enjoy this Thanksgiving guilt-free as you have with eating out at a restaurant now. With the your dietary needs kept in check, these excursions have to be so much more enjoyable for you.

Congrats on the size 30 waist, and setting an example that people can change life-long habits for the better.
 
Damn modus that is a pretty incredible story.

I pretty sure I need to start measuring my food i can cut the rest of my lingering body fat. Want to get from 18% to 13%.
 

mooooose

Member
I didn't read all of m0dus's post (I assume he was successful because of the posts following, so congrats, I'll read it after I finish my post), but I want to say something and this isn't directed at you, but ANYONE who needs to lose weight or has lost weight.

"Dieting" doesn't fucking work. It never will. It never has. You know why? Because eating well for six months and then continuing to eat like shit will never work. Eating like a bird or some fucking idiot for six months to lose a shit ton of weight fast, and then going back to eating burgers once a day will NEVER WORK.

Eat like a fucking normal person. Make your DIET into DIETING. Eat oatmeal and/or an egg or two in the morning. Eat a salad for lunch but add some shit you like. Who cares if you use a dressing high in carbs or calories or whatever. Just don't use a lot. Avoid eating a ton of bread or pasta or starches. But if you want it every once and awhile, eat it. Eat bad like 3 times a week for a MEAL and make it a small meal.

I'm still "cutting" and I just had a donut and a coffee. I SHOULDN'T have had it but if I didn't I'd be miserable and end up gorging myself on shit later. So I had it. If I eat badly once every other day in moderation, I will still lose weight (and have, but not at a constant and rapid pace as I once did).

Your diet is a lifestyle. Make your lifestyle not eating french fries, and burgers, and spaghetti, and candy, and soda and you will lose weight. Add meat and eggs and you will have extra protein.
 

Ravidrath

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Amazing work, Modus. I'd also like to see before and after pics, if you feel comfortable sharing any.

I'm trying to gain weight at the moment, but my experiences have been largely similar: at first eating all the time was a giant hassle, and now it's routine. I didn't like the things I was eating at first, but as I grew used to them, I started optimizing more.

It's all about educating yourself and being consistent.

And, yeah, my attitude about "good food" has changed a lot, too - when I do eat out, I enjoy it a lot more than I did before.
 

Petrie

Banned
Amazing work, Modus. I'd also like to see before and after pics, if you feel comfortable sharing any.

I'm trying to gain weight at the moment, but my experiences have been largely similar: at first eating all the time was a giant hassle, and now it's routine. I didn't like the things I was eating at first, but as I grew used to them, I started optimizing more.

It's all about educating yourself and being consistent.

And, yeah, my attitude about "good food" has changed a lot, too - when I do eat out, I enjoy it a lot more than I did before.



My god this.
 
One week left on my cut. I am down like 20 lbs (albiet I weighed in after a binge, lol). My strength has gone nothing but up, kinda surprising considering I came off of 5/3/1 and a "bulk". All of my main lifts on this program are the highest they've ever been, including squats.

Next week I should be hitting 225 on incline for at least 6-8 reps. Ending my squat sets with 325 (I do 10 sets of squats, increase the weight 10 lbs per set, and decreasing the reps by 1). I just don't know deads as I don't do anything close to that, but my BB rows are at 235 for 7 reps. I'm happy. I'm hoping my trainer either gets me doing big lifts on the next phase, or gives me a week to test out my shit. I wanna see where my bench/squat are at under normal conditions.

It's still not where I should be, but considering the program I'm on. I'm very happy with the results.

It's also nice to have my abs back.
 
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A More Normal Bird

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Great post. It's a very hard truth that even your extensive knowledge about the causes and effects of being overweight wasn't enough by itself to change the situation. People who are ill-informed or misled could only find it more difficult. I never did thank you for answering my questions in the other thread so I'll do that now and also say congratulations and best wishes for your health in the future.

One week left on my cut. I am down like 20 lbs (albiet I weighed in after a binge, lol). My strength has gone nothing but up, kinda surprising considering I came off of 5/3/1 and a "bulk". All of my main lifts on this program are the highest they've ever been, including squats.

Interesting. Do you think it could be due (at least partly) to working with a trainer who might be forcing you to work that extra bit harder?
 

despire

Member
On the topic of fat loss, I'm down 4,2kg/9,3lbs in little under three weeks. Haven't noticed any strength loss and most of it's probably fat since the initial drop was only less than a kilogram (possible due to creatine).

Having a refeed tomorrow after workout. +400g of carbs in five hours :/
 
Right when one injury gets better, another one occurs. My knees finally feel back to normal (had runner's knee) but then I jammed my finger playing basketball and it hurts more than usual. My left shoulder is still clicking so still avoiding presses. Arghsighlakshl -_-
 

crpav

Member
you know... I'm pretty sure bench is my favorite exercise.

Used to be one of my favorite lifts as well. I also like shoulder press....UNTIL INJURIES. Pain in left shoulder for over a year and a half. I had it looked at and was told no surgery needed and that it's shoulder impingement as well as a pinched nerve in my neck. He said no more bench press or shoulder press EVER. I am to rehab it to strengthen my shoulder muscles with certain exercises and may take up to a year. I also went to a chiropractor for a few sessions but even though it's better it still seems like it will never be the same.
 

kylej

Banned
Used to be one of my favorite lifts as well. I also like shoulder press....UNTIL INJURIES. Pain in left shoulder for over a year and a half. I had it looked at and was told no surgery needed and that it's shoulder impingement as well as a pinched nerve in my neck. He said no more bench press or shoulder press EVER. I am to rehab it to strengthen my shoulder muscles with certain exercises and may take up to a year. I also went to a chiropractor for a few sessions but even though it's better it still seems like it will never be the same.

yeah I do all sorts of preventative shoulder work every single time I lift -- even on leg day. knock on wood I have zero pain in my body even though I lift (for me) heavy
 
Interesting. Do you think it could be due (at least partly) to working with a trainer who might be forcing you to work that extra bit harder?
Yeah pretty much. He tells me, despite cutting and expecting strength/size loss, to still fight to increase your strength every week. So I still have strength progress worked in. I think that's helped quite a bit.
 

kylej

Banned
External rotations, band pull aparts, rear delt flys.

Yep. External rotations are a MUST - whether you do them with cables or lying down with dumbbells.

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I like cuban rotations too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l6fY6EQO74&t=1m15s I do em one arm at a time.

The SmittyDiesel channel has a toooon of good shoulder stuff. Try em out and see what you like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ONHZmsFec

I'd like to try some of their resistance band work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=235RWW0Ih9Y&feature=plcp I really need to start bringing bands with me to the gym. The Snow Angel stretch looks like it feels so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ2n2wvj6mA&feature=plcp
 
Hey, kinda random question here. I was back in a gym for the first time in quite a while (can't make it work with the family, but had a chance on vacation) and a friend of mine that I was lifting with use one of those hex bars for doing deadlifts. I'd actually never used one before, so I tried it with low weight and it actually felt really good form-wise. Are these bars a good idea or bad idea? I don't follow lifting enough to know if these are frowned upon as opposed to the straight bar.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
I'm now second week in my first ever lifting program with my PT. Three lifting days centered around the Big Three barbell moves and some supporting moves for same muscle groups. Two spinning days for cardio. I love doing this barbell stuff with my trainer. Feels like a man, man.

This might be a dumb question, but which of the big three work my abs and guns? Everything else I can easily figure out.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I'm now second week in my first ever lifting program with my PT. Three lifting days centered around the Big Three barbell moves and some supporting moves for same muscle groups. Two spinning days for cardio. I love doing this barbell stuff with my trainer. Feels like a man, man.

This might be a dumb question, but which of the big three work my abs and guns? Everything else I can easily figure out.

Barbell curls on a bosu ball in the squat rack
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
Barbell curls on a bosu ball in the squat rack

Hmm so do I need a separate curl then. Could give it a go, although Martin Berkhan did write that he wants to punch anyone he sees using thise bosu balls. Or might have been his Japan based copy. Hogging a squat rack with a bosu ball for bice.... Haha, got it.
 

balddemon

Banned
i'm like 100% sure shogun was kidding

or you never know, he could have fallen and hit his head while curling on a bosu ball in a squat rack
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
I'm not always a fan of T-Nation, but I thought this article was interesting.

3. Lever Lengths and Body Proportions – Some individuals have lever (bone) lengths and body proportions that give them greater leverage in lifting weights and a greater potential for increasing strength than other individuals.

This can be readily seen in powerlifting. Favorable lever lengths and body proportions in the bench press are a thick chest and short arms (a.k.a. alligator arms), while favorable lever lengths and body proportions in the squat and deadlift are a short torso, wide hips, and short legs. (Long arms also help in the deadlift.)

Everything else being equal, those who have favorable lever lengths and body proportions have a greater strength potential in certain exercises because they don't have to move the weight as far as those who have less favorable lever lengths and body proportions. The end result is that they can lift extraordinarily heavy weights.

Take note all you short mfers that can lift a ton! Yes, I'm talking to you Alienshogun!
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I never kid barbell curls on a bosu ball, breh.

Take note all you short mfers that can lift a ton! Yes, I'm talking to you Alienshogun!

I've made no hint that I'm not "genetically gifted" for lifting. I know it. I'm 5'8" with a 32 inch arm span and a 30 inch inseam for fucks sake.
 
Hey, kinda random question here. I was back in a gym for the first time in quite a while (can't make it work with the family, but had a chance on vacation) and a friend of mine that I was lifting with use one of those hex bars for doing deadlifts. I'd actually never used one before, so I tried it with low weight and it actually felt really good form-wise. Are these bars a good idea or bad idea? I don't follow lifting enough to know if these are frowned upon as opposed to the straight bar.

I've been told it's a legit exercise, but that the movement pattern is more akin to squatting than deadlifting. Never done it myself.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
I've made no hint that I'm not "genetically gifted" for lifting. I know it. I'm 5'8" with a 32 inch arm span and a 30 inch inseam for fucks sake.

I'm just making fun but there's a ton of truth to that article, imo.

That's why I consider NBA athletes the best athletes in the world... the length combined with the athleticism they exhibit is ridiculous.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I'm just making fun but there's a ton of truth to that article, imo.

That's why I consider NBA athletes the best athletes in the world... the length combined with the athleticism they exhibit is ridiculous.

I have an issue with people being able to come out of highschool as "the best athletes in the world" but that's just me.

There's truth in that article, sure, but that doesn't mean really strong people are strong because of genetics. You still have to work your ass off, it just means the "top end" is higher for someone like me than it is for some lanky dude.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
I have an issue with people being able to come out of highschool as "the best athletes in the world" but that's just me.

Moreso talking about players in their prime that had some years of professional guidance/work ethic/weight lifting experience/diet under their belt.

There's truth in that article, sure, but that doesn't mean really strong people are strong because of genetics. You still have to work your ass off, it just means the "top end" is higher for someone like me than it is for some lanky dude.

Of course. This is all assumed with hard work. On the flipside, achieving a strong baseline is significantly easier depending on genetics.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Moreso talking about players in their prime that had some years of professional guidance/work ethic/weight lifting experience/diet under their belt.



Of course. This is all assumed with hard work. On the flipside, achieving a strong baseline is significantly easier depending on genetics.

Ah, ok, well that makes more sense, but I guess it still depends on what your idea of "best athlete" would be.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Ah, ok, well that makes more sense, but I guess it still depends on what your idea of "best athlete" would be.

A culmination of different things: size, strength, ability to perform certain tasks better than somebody else. Sounds a bit vague. For example, some of the power forwards in the league that weigh 240lbs and have a 35-40" vertical? That's insane to me.
 

Imm0rt4l

Member
I'm just making fun but there's a ton of truth to that article, imo.

That's why I consider NBA athletes the best athletes in the world... the length combined with the athleticism they exhibit is ridiculous.

Yea, tall motherfuckers who can put up serious weight get much props from me. Muscle proportions won't be in their favor either when it comes to bodybuilding.


I kinda envy that they can eat so fucking much though.
 
Yea, tall motherfuckers who can put up serious weight get much props from me. Muscle proportions won't be in their favor either when it comes to bodybuilding.


I kinda envy that they can eat so fucking much though.

That much running will turn you into a human garbage disposal even at average heights.
 

Spinluck

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Age: 20

Height: 6'2"
Weight: Anywhere from 160-165lbs

Goal: I really just wanna put on pounds, I'm just waaaay to skinny.

Current Training Schedule: Haven't started yet
Current Training Equipment Available: Just sets of dumbbells- 25lbs- 30lbs- 35lbs- 40lbs- and 45lbs.

Comments:When I played Football(American) in high school, I actually had some mass to me. But since then, I've eaten less, and lost weight (mainly due to living on a budget). I wanna put some mass in my arms, and beef up my all around appearance. Before starting to work out again, I really wanna get my diet down first, my GF suggest that I eat a shit ton of meat and mash potatoes(starch). But I'm pretty sure I'll need to do more than just that. Since she's not living here she can no longer cook for me O___o. So I really have to make this all happen with a tight budget. Anyways, I wanna make a diet plan before I start working out, I'm willing to buy protein powders, since most people think it's essential.
 
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