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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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MjFrancis

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I got the job.

I'm gonna be a federal correctional officer, AND I'm graduating next month.

Shit's all working out for me.
Nice job! I hope you have fun, kick ass and take names. Congrats, bud.

You guys are the pros so I'll ask you.

I'm a hard gainer and it's been difficult for me to gain just about all my life. However, recently I've found something that's actually been working (to the tune of about 2 Ibs a week!); a ton of weight gainer per day. My question is, is there any reason I can't take this stuff indefinitely? It started off hard on my stomach but I've gotten used to it more a less. I currently take about 1300-1400 cals per day of weight gainer. I'm also thinking about upping that by about 300 calories in about 8 weeks or so. Also, HGH: yay or nay?

(From about 182 to 188 so far)
First, the reason you almost certainly shouldn't take weight gainers indefinitely is because it's not a whole food. You'll want to transition to whole foods as soon as you can maintain your weight with them - meat, veggies, fruits, what have you. I'm delving into a little pseudoscience (that I'll stand by no less), but there's nutrition (not calories) you're missing out when you replace it with powdered supplements.

Weight gainers should be a temporary supplement - an assistance to your eating endeavors. A tool. And you're gaining weight at a good pace - you probably aren't putting on 2lbs of muscle every week so what do you stand to gain by eating more? Lift heavy and transition to whole foods as much as feasible whenever you hit your target weight.

As to the HGH question, nay. It's practically one of those questions that if you have to ask, the answer is probably no. Unless you plan on being an IFBB pro bodybuilder. It's best to stay clear, hopefully someone can post some of the awful side effects of HGH in particular. *cough* roid gut *cough*
 

commedieu

Banned
I just started out and didn't want to post until I finished day 3 of working out and running. Nailed it! Will post body pics soon. We have a lot of work ahead of us fitness gaf.

195 lbs. 6'1 and a visceral fat level of 8. In car now heading to a sensible meal. :)I

Feels Goodman.
 

Cudder

Member
I just started out and didn't want to post until I finished day 3 of working out and running. Nailed it! Will post body pics soon. We have a lot of work ahead of us fitness gaf.

195 lbs. 6'1 and a visceral fat level of 8. In car now heading to a sensible meal. :)I

Feels Goodman.

wut
 
First, the reason you almost certainly shouldn't take weight gainers indefinitely is because it's not a whole food. You'll want to transition to whole foods as soon as you can maintain your weight with them - meat, veggies, fruits, what have you. I'm delving into a little pseudoscience (that I'll stand by no less), but there's nutrition (not calories) you're missing out when you replace it with powdered supplements.

Weight gainers should be a temporary supplement - an assistance to your eating endeavors. A tool. And you're gaining weight at a good pace - you probably aren't putting on 2lbs of muscle every week so what do you stand to gain by eating more? Lift heavy and transition to whole foods as much as feasible whenever you hit your target weight.

Cool man, when available I'll definitely try to eat more well-rounded meals. Still, seeing results after so much futility is just encouraging. I actually don't intend on upping my caloris until I stop gaining weight. I'm aiming for about 200. Thanks for the response.

As to the HGH question, nay. It's practically one of those questions that if you have to ask, the answer is probably no. Unless you plan on being an IFBB pro bodybuilder. It's best to stay clear, hopefully someone can post some of the awful side effects of HGH in particular. *cough* roid gut *cough*

That's all I need to hear. I don't want to lose my abs.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Was doing a seated military press (ceiling is too low to do a standing MP... I know lol) today, and really aggravated my elbow on the last set. Or, rather, a tiny spot just behind my elbow. Feels like tendonitis or something. Hurts like hell if I apply pressure to it. Hope it's not too serious and goes away soon.
 

balddemon

Banned
Cool man, when available I'll definitely try to eat more well-rounded meals. Still, seeing results after so much futility is just encouraging. I actually don't intend on upping my caloris until I stop gaining weight. I'm aiming for about 200. Thanks for the response.



That's all I need to hear. I don't want to lose my abs.

i don't think you'd get roid gut with one cycle of steroids lol.

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my day was exhausting. worked 1130-5, then i did some speed ladder stuff for 20 minutes. then i did the "boot camp" class, and then my lifts for the day (just bi/tri), then i went and played ball for 2 hours. ready to drink this protein, do the dishes, take a shower, and pass the fuck out.
 

Petrie

Banned
You only go on vacation once! Haha nice catch but still I can't get those muscle formations my stomach is just "hard"

You can't get those muscle formations because you have too much bodyfat, which means you aren't eating cleanly enough, or you're eating too much regardless. Abs come from diet. Plain and simple.
 

despire

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Man I wish it were that easy. I'm stuck here, where the food is godawful, for the next mont and I have to force myself to eat 2000 in regular food each day. I can't even imagine wolfing down more.

Where exactly is "here"? The North Pole? Why can't you get any decent food?


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I got the job.

I'm gonna be a federal correctional officer, AND I'm graduating next month.

Shit's all working out for me.

Gratz! What is it exactly that federal correctional officee does? Something to do with prisons I presume but what?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Where exactly is "here"? The North Pole? Why can't you get any decent food?




Gratz! What is it exactly that federal correctional officee does? Something to do with prisons I presume but what?

Thanks, basically everything to do with the prisoners.

Correctional Officers enforce the regulations governing the operation of a correctional institution, serving as both a supervisor and counselor of inmates.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
I have decided to move onto 5/3/1 this week.

One quick question though. When they say "move up 5lbs for upper body and 10lbs for lower body per cycle", that means on all of the warm-ups, too, correct?
 

despire

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I have decided to move onto 5/3/1 this week.

One quick question though. When they say "move up 5lbs for upper body and 10lbs for lower body per cycle", that means on all of the warm-ups, too, correct?

Wendler recommends the warm up to be sets of 40%, 50% and 60% of your 1RM. My Excel calculates them automatically every month according to the 1RM I've listed. So I don't bother with them.

I'm not personally doing 5/3/1 but my GF is.
 

Carbonox

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Thanks for the help on my sausage question, folks.

Aside from this, I'm curious, since there are a lot of people in this topic, I've always wondered - what are your goals? Especially for those who wish to compete in whatever field you're working towards (strength-based like powerlifting or something like bodybuilding, etc.). Darth wants to compete in bodybuilding I believe (and doesn't Mecha want to/does so as well?) so I'm interested to hear what others wish to do down the line. Do you hope to compete in the future? Or do you prefer to do it just because it makes you feel good and because it's a great passer of time?
 

despire

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Thanks for the help on my sausage question, folks.

Aside from this, I'm curious, since there are a lot of people in this topic, I've always wondered - what are your goals? Especially for those who wish to compete in whatever field you're working towards (strength-based like powerlifting or something like bodybuilding, etc.). Darth wants to compete in bodybuilding I believe (and doesn't Mecha want to/does so as well?) so I'm interested to hear what others wish to do down the line. Do you hope to compete in the future? Or do you prefer to do it just because it makes you feel good and because it's a great passer of time?

Always been skinnyfat. Lovehandles and bit of a gut. Looked ok with clothes on but I never liked how I looked naked. Though my GF sees/saw nothing wrong I've always disliked my body.

Now I've been on this fitness journey a year and I'm looking the best I've ever looked. Gotten stronger and I have more muscle than ever before though it's not much yet. Goal is to be the best man I can be. Strongest I can be and looking awesome as fuck in the meanwhile :p No particular interest in competing in any way.

Ultimate goal is to look something like this


Edit:

Had a funny moment at the gym today while doing bench. The previous weight/PR of my heaviest work set with RPT is 6 x 160lbs. Did my warm up like usual and started with the work sets. The result was that I only managed 4 reps and was pretty pissed off that I'd lost strength during my cut since so far it has gone well. Then I though that even though I got two reps less I still managed 4 reps which is ok. Not six reps but ok anyhow.

Then I checked the weights and lol'ed since I had loaded the bar 5lbs too heavy. So I was benching 4x165lbs which is a new PR!
 
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Dumbbell squats. :lol
 

Noema

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It's like he is trying to intentionally keep his back as curved as possible.

Somewhere, an orthopedic surgeon just came watching this.

Aside from this, I'm curious, since there are a lot of people in this topic, I've always wondered - what are your goals? Especially for those who wish to compete in whatever field you're working towards (strength-based like powerlifting or something like bodybuilding, etc.). Darth wants to compete in bodybuilding I believe (and doesn't Mecha want to/does so as well?) so I'm interested to hear what others wish to do down the line. Do you hope to compete in the future? Or do you prefer to do it just because it makes you feel good and because it's a great passer of time?


I just want to be strong. I'd like to be able to one day squat 500lb and Deadlift 600lb, without fat-fucking myself up in the process. By my calculations, it'll take between 4 to 6 more years to achieve that goal. I'm in no hurry.

I also want teh big Gunz.
 

Tess3ract

Banned
I had a whole thing written up but fucking site logged me out.

Basically I do masonry construction 3 days a week from 5-5 which wipes me out. I don't eat much:
(things said "or" means in lieu of)

b:
oatmeal+coffee
l:
chicken sandwhich, or egg salad
s:
beef/potatoes, or slices of a small pizza once a week, or a few chicken tenders once in a while

I don't drink soda except things that don't have calories, carbs, sugars (or "fake" sugars) such as diet Moxie. I don't drink much alcohol, I drink water mostly

Do I just do cardio once in a while on my off days? It's too cold to go out and run and I want to do something that will help me lose fat
 

balddemon

Banned
Aside from this, I'm curious, since there are a lot of people in this topic, I've always wondered - what are your goals? Especially for those who wish to compete in whatever field you're working towards (strength-based like powerlifting or something like bodybuilding, etc.). Darth wants to compete in bodybuilding I believe (and doesn't Mecha want to/does so as well?) so I'm interested to hear what others wish to do down the line. Do you hope to compete in the future? Or do you prefer to do it just because it makes you feel good and because it's a great passer of time?

right now i'm working on becoming more explosive. i want to be able to jump and run higher, faster, and be quicker.

ultimate goal is to make the basketball team at my "college".
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I have decided to move onto 5/3/1 this week.

One quick question though. When they say "move up 5lbs for upper body and 10lbs for lower body per cycle", that means on all of the warm-ups, too, correct?


Uh, wat?

You should get the book or at the very least read more on 5/3/1. Warmup sets are percentage based off of work sets. Everything is based off of the training max THAT is what you increase per cycle.
 

Eidan

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Uh, wat?

You should get the book or at the very least read more on 5/3/1. Warmup sets are percentage based off of work sets. Everything is based off of the training max THAT is what you increase per cycle.

I do have the book, and my "Yep" was based off of increasing the max. Relax.
 

kylej

Banned
workout today consisted of 4 working sets. in and out in 20 minutes. friday will mark the end of my 11th 5/3/1 cycle. think I might move away from heavy lifting for a bit, I'm kinda bored of the program. I dunno.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Wendler recommends the warm up to be sets of 40%, 50% and 60% of your 1RM. My Excel calculates them automatically every month according to the 1RM I've listed. So I don't bother with them.

I'm not personally doing 5/3/1 but my GF is.

Makes perfect sense. Thanks!
 

maxxpower

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Any suggestions on what I could possibly add to my cottage cheese to make it taste better? So far I've tried adding whey to add taste but I honestly thought it tasted horrible. Right now I'm adding the Bear Naked granola and I love it but it has too many calories.

Any suggestions?
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
I interpreted his question as the increase of the max also impacting the amounts in the warm-ups.

My question was more pertaining to how much the increase should be.

And Alien, play nice.
 

Petrie

Banned
Any suggestions on what I could possibly add to my cottage cheese to make it taste better? So far I've tried adding whey to add taste but I honestly thought it tasted horrible. Right now I'm adding the Bear Naked granola and I love it but it has too many calories.

Any suggestions?

Lots of people add peanut butter, but if you're worried about calories, I'm not sure what to tell you. Sorry.
 

despire

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Any suggestions on what I could possibly add to my cottage cheese to make it taste better? So far I've tried adding whey to add taste but I honestly thought it tasted horrible. Right now I'm adding the Bear Naked granola and I love it but it has too many calories.

Any suggestions?

Pineapple is pretty good with cottage cheese.
 

Escape Goat

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What is a good breakfast to eat before a 5k? My last 5k I just had a banana, juice and a slice of toast and I felt okay. Does it really matter what you eat the day of? It starts at 8 so I'm not going to eat a few slices of pizza or anything. Though I will be eating tons of bad food later in the day!
 

Kwhit10

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Any suggestions on what I could possibly add to my cottage cheese to make it taste better? So far I've tried adding whey to add taste but I honestly thought it tasted horrible. Right now I'm adding the Bear Naked granola and I love it but it has too many calories.

Any suggestions?

Hood makes a chive and toasted onion cottage cheese which I really like. Only downside is it only comes in lowfat :/
 

MjFrancis

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It's too cold to go out and run and I want to do something that will help me lose fat
If you want to lose fat it will ultimately come down to your diet. Not to deride running or any other aerobic activity, because those play a great role in cardiovascular health - but eating less calories than you use in a day will be more pertinent to your goal of fat loss.

That's not a greenlight for living sedentary outside of work, but check out some of the nutrition resources in the OP and ask any follow up questions that may arise.
 

Noema

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Any suggestions on what I could possibly add to my cottage cheese to make it taste better? So far I've tried adding whey to add taste but I honestly thought it tasted horrible. Right now I'm adding the Bear Naked granola and I love it but it has too many calories.

Any suggestions?

Cantaloupe. It's the best shit ever.
 

IceCold

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What's the best way to fix an uneven chest (specifically outer pecs). BB bench? My left pec is noticeably larger than my right one and it's starting to piss me off.
 
What is a good breakfast to eat before a 5k? My last 5k I just had a banana, juice and a slice of toast and I felt okay. Does it really matter what you eat the day of? It starts at 8 so I'm not going to eat a few slices of pizza or anything. Though I will be eating tons of bad food later in the day!

5K really should not be that big a thing food wise. It's probably just best to stick with what you eat on a normal day, so you won't be introducing some odd diet change the day of the race. Could do a lot more harm than good if you try to eat some specific "race day" meal that is not normal for you and you get sick off it.
 
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