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[CliqWriter]

Those of you who do incline dumbbell press, how do you get the weight up on the first rep?
I always have it go as slow as possible, then pause, then press up. Any other way seems unstable. But getting to 90 pounds it's getting increasingly harder to put up the first rep. (While I have no problem doing the other 8) HELP !

 

[BadTaste]

Might go to the park tonight and do chin ups. Current temperature is like 1-4 degrees outside and it's snowing.. Oh well =p

 

[HollovVpo1nt]

Those of you who do incline dumbbell press, how do you get the weight up on the first rep?
I always have it go as slow as possible, then pause, then press up. Any other way seems unstable. But getting to 90 pounds it's getting increasingly harder to put up the first rep. (While I have no problem doing the other 8) HELP !

Get someone to help you. I usually sit on the bench, put the weights on my knee, and then boost them/lift them with my knee and lie down. Usually someone is behind me helping. Once it's up, its all me.

 

[abuC]

Those of you who do incline dumbbell press, how do you get the weight up on the first rep?
I always have it go as slow as possible, then pause, then press up. Any other way seems unstable. But getting to 90 pounds it's getting increasingly harder to put up the first rep. (While I have no problem doing the other 8) HELP !

I use the momentum from kicking them up off my knees, then I arch my back and press my shoulder blades into the bench. I've never had a spot for DB press, so I've always had to do it myself.

 

[Cudder]

If you get a spot on a lift, and set a new PR, do you count that at all as youhaving set a new PR?

Most I've done on freeweight bench is 5x225. Today I asked for a spot and did 6. I guess I shouldn't be prancing around being all like "I can do 6 reps at this weight" right? lol

i should add that the spot he gave was very light, just guided me. thing is, I would never try doing 6 reps on my own, so I actually don't know if I could do it without a spot.

 

[Petrie]

If you get a spot on a lift, and set a new PR, do you count that at all as youhaving set a new PR?

Most I've done on freeweight bench is 5x225. Today I asked for a spot and did 6. I guess I shouldn't be prancing around being all like "I can do 6 reps at this weight" right? lol

i should add that the spot he gave was very light, just guided me. thing is, I would never try doing 6 reps on my own, so I actually don't know if I could do it without a spot.

If all he did was give you a safety net, it counts.

If he helped with the weight at all, it doesn't.

 

[BadTaste]

Determined but struggling to finish this

Sigh..

 

[HollovVpo1nt]

I can finish it for you? That looks delicious. I've just eaten and I'm hungry already because of that

 

[Gilby]

If you get a spot on a lift, and set a new PR, do you count that at all as youhaving set a new PR?

Most I've done on freeweight bench is 5x225. Today I asked for a spot and did 6. I guess I shouldn't be prancing around being all like "I can do 6 reps at this weight" right? lol

i should add that the spot he gave was very light, just guided me. thing is, I would never try doing 6 reps on my own, so I actually don't know if I could do it without a spot.

Spotting doesn't involve touching the bar.

 

[despire]

http://yle.fi/urheilu/esko_on_ruutiukko_-_ikaa_71_vuotta_mutta_rautaa_nousee_yli_200_kiloa/6479919

Hopefully you can see the video behind the link. The Finnish national broadcasting company did a story of an 71 year old man who deadlifts over 200kg. Squats 230kg also. Holds world records in both lifts for over 70 year olds. It's in finnish but they show him deadlifting 202,5kg in the end. He's also planning on breaking his own records again next fall in Hungary.

Impressive nonetheless but he also trains outside all year long and it's -8 celcius when they shot that video. Says that outside air has more oxygen and clothes have been invented anyhow He also teaches teenagers to lift and is an musical instructor as well.

 

[blackflag]

If you get a spot on a lift, and set a new PR, do you count that at all as youhaving set a new PR?

Most I've done on freeweight bench is 5x225. Today I asked for a spot and did 6. I guess I shouldn't be prancing around being all like "I can do 6 reps at this weight" right? lol

i should add that the spot he gave was very light, just guided me. thing is, I would never try doing 6 reps on my own, so I actually don't know if I could do it without a spot.

If he touched the bar other than to help you lift it off the rack then I wouldn't count it.

 

[blackflag]

I haven't squatted or deadlifted in over a week. I miss that feel.

Trying to let my back heal for real this time and not just start back up once the pain isn't too bad.......

 

[BadTaste]

I can finish it for you? That looks delicious. I've just eaten and I'm hungry already because of that

I wish I had your appetite

After about 50 minutes I've eaten 3/4 of it, still going. I don't know if eating slow has a negative effect on your weight gain but whatever Lol.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I wish I had your appetite

After about 50 minutes I've eaten 3/4 of it, still going. I don't know if eating slow has a negative affect on your weight gain but whatever Lol.

You don't want it bad enough.

i should add that the spot he gave was very light, just guided me. thing is, I would never try doing 6 reps on my own, so I actually don't know if I could do it without a spot.

Doesn't count.

 

[Cudder]

Spotting doesn't involve touching the bar.

How else would you spot a bench press?

 

[BadTaste]

You don't want it bad enough.

What do you mean?

 

[Veezy]

How else would you spot a bench press?

They help with lift off, they help with racking the bar, and they help if the bar stops ascending. Otherwise, they stand back and watch. Helping to move the bar could be dangerous and takes some of the effort away from the lifter.

 

[Petrie]

How else would you spot a bench press?

Spotting just means being there to help if you fail. It doesn't mean touching or helping in any way until failure occurs.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Dude came up and tried to compete with me in squats today. Proceeded to do 1/4 rep squats.

What do you mean?

See, you don't want it bad enough. If you really wanted to gain weight you wouldn't be posting about failing, you would be posting about how you ate all the food in your house and you're on your way to costco to get more.

Man the fuck up.

 

[Poindexter]

How else would you spot a bench press?

??

A spotter is just there in case you fail. If you succeed he shouldn't really be doing anything.

 

[Cagey]

They help with lift off, they help with racking the bar, and they help if the bar stops ascending. Otherwise, they stand back and watch. Helping to move the bar could be dangerous and takes some of the effort away from the lifter.

This. A bad spotter turns the bench into an exercise for himself.

 

[Cudder]

They help with lift off, they help with racking the bar, and they help if the bar stops ascending. Otherwise, they stand back and watch. Helping to move the bar could be dangerous and takes some of the effort away from the lifter.

And helping when the bar stops ascending means they touch the bar. I know you're not supposed to touch the bar until they struggle.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

And helping when the bar stops ascending means they touch the bar. I know you're not supposed to touch the bar until they struggle.

Which also means that rep doesn't count.

 

[Petrie]

And helping when the bar stops ascending means they touch the bar. I know you're not supposed to touch the bar until they struggle.

And you said he helped with it. Not our fault you spoke wrong,

 

[Dash27]

Spotting just entails watching them lift. If the bar is on the ascent and starts to drop, you grab it and the lift is failed. Otherwise hands off. That's how I do it anyway.

 

[blackflag]

I tell them don't even think about touching the bar until I shake my head.

I don't usually use a spotter though even for max effort. We have a lower set of hooks I've always been able to get it to if I fail.

 

[asdad123]

I hate asking random people to spot me when I'm benching. Sometimes when I max, I pause fr about a second half way up and then lock it out. I always tell the spotter not to touch unless it falls on my chest. I got a spot two weeks ago, and as soon as I paused he pulled the bar up with all his strength... And I knew I could have finished the rep no problem (315). That just screwed me up for the rest of the workout and I didn't try going higher.

Maxed again with someone who knows how to spot the week after and got a new PR of 325.

Edit: anyone have recommendations for wrist supports? I broke my left wrist during high school, and when I bench over 275, I feel pretty bad pain in it. The pain doesn't occur during the actual bench press,but once I rack the weight, I just feel a sharp pain in my wrist for a couple seconds.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

something something double post.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I hate asking random people to spot me when I'm benching. Sometimes when I max, I pause fr about a second half way up and then lock it out. I always tell the spotter not to touch unless it falls on my chest. I got a spot two weeks ago, and as soon as I paused he pulled the bar up with all his strength... And I knew I could have finished the rep no problem (315). That just screwed me up for the rest of the workout and I didn't try going higher.

Maxed again with someone who knows how to spot the week after and got a new PR of 325.

Did you tell him you would be pausing? Because if you tell him "don't touch unless it falls on my chest" and you don't tell him you will be pausing, it will appear it "fell on your chest."

I tell them don't even think about touching the bar until I shake my head.

I don't usually use a spotter though even for max effort. We have a lower set of hooks I've always been able to get it to if I fail.

I just have them stand back. The thing I always say is "I probably don't need a spotter, but can you just keep an eye to make sure I don't kill myself?"

If I'm going for a true big PR (1rm) I'll go use the powerrack, yes, even for benching.

Edit: anyone have recommendations for wrist supports? I broke my left wrist during high school, and when I bench over 275, I feel pretty bad pain in it. The pain doesn't occur during the actual bench press,but once I rack the weight, I just feel a sharp pain in my wrist for a couple seconds.

Elite FTS heavy wraps.

 

[Dash27]

I am fortunate in that I know the people who would spot me and we all agree on when to take it. If you dont know the person just ask them before hand what they want or tell them what you want. Some people seem to want to assist them through a few more reps for whatever reason. I dont have a strong enough opinion on it to talk people out of what they are doing.

 

[asdad123]

Did you tell him you would be pausing? Because if you tell him "don't touch unless it falls on my chest" and you don't tell him you will be pausing, it will appear it "fell on your chest."

Yeah. I told him usually I pause and not to touch the bar until it actually falls back down onto me completely. Didn't listen -_-

 

[OG Kush]

I wish I had your appetite

After about 50 minutes I've eaten 3/4 of it, still going. I don't know if eating slow has a negative effect on your weight gain but whatever Lol.

eating slow makes you fuller quicker. Thats why when you have a lot of food its best to eat it quick, before your body realises how much its eaten and starts giving out the "full" signal making you feel "full"

 

[BadTaste]

eating slow makes you fuller quicker. Thats why when you have a lot of food its best to eat it quick, before your body realises how much its eaten and starts giving out the "full" signal making you feel "full"

Alright then, I did finish it after an hour. A week ago I would only eat about a fifth of that meal.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Those of you who do incline dumbbell press, how do you get the weight up on the first rep?
I always have it go as slow as possible, then pause, then press up. Any other way seems unstable. But getting to 90 pounds it's getting increasingly harder to put up the first rep. (While I have no problem doing the other 8) HELP !

I throw it up with my knees.

 

[FallingEdge]

re: spotting

Another thing that can help is if you do decide to put your hands under the bar is to not actually touch it. It sounds dumb but for the lifter, they are thinking mentally that you are helping them so they are able to lift it up when in actuality, they are doing it on their own. I've had it done to me and on others so I feel like it works.

Mind over matter.

 

[throwawayname]

Are ATG squats better than the usual parallel squats?
edit: nvm

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Are ATG squats better than the usual parallel squats?

Only if you do them correctly.

 

[Cudder]

Which also means that rep doesn't count.

And you said he helped with it. Not our fault you spoke wrong,

Yes, I realize if he helps you with the lift those reps don't "count" as being your own. Perhaps my question earlier about it counting was a bit pointless then, I agree.

I was just referring to Petrie saying that spotting doesn't involve touching the bar. If I ask for a spot, that means I'm going to use that help to get a couple more reps than I could do on my own. I expect them to help with the last few reps. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I use a spotter.

I find it a bit weird people here will use a spotter and tell them to only help them if the bar is stuck on their chest. What's the point then? They're not helping you with the reps in any way then.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Yes, I realize if he helps you with the lift those reps don't "count" as being your own. Perhaps my question earlier about it counting was a bit pointless then, I agree.

I was just referring to Petrie saying that spotting doesn't involve touching the bar. If I ask for a spot, that means I'm going to use that help to get a couple more reps than I could do on my own. I expect them to help with the last few reps. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I use a spotter.

I find it a bit weird people here will use a spotter and tell them to only help them if the bar is stuck on their chest. What's the point then? They're not helping you with the reps in any way then.

That's more of a workout partner. If someone asked me to spot, then pulled that shit, I'd be pissed.

I'm there to make sure you don't kill yourself, not help you get bang for your buck while I waste my time. Get a workout buddy for that shit. (frustration not at you, but at all people who pull this shit.)

If you want help "getting more reps" say that, but IMO that's not spotting, that's a workout partner.

I don't touch the bar until it goes "the wrong way" then the only place I guide it is to the pins.

 

[EviLore]

Yes, I realize if he helps you with the lift those reps don't "count" as being your own. Perhaps my question earlier about it counting was a bit pointless then, I agree.

I was just referring to Petrie saying that spotting doesn't involve touching the bar. If I ask for a spot, that means I'm going to use that help to get a couple more reps than I could do on my own. I expect them to help with the last few reps. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I use a spotter.

I find it a bit weird people here will use a spotter and tell them to only help them if the bar is stuck on their chest. What's the point then? They're not helping you with the reps in any way then.

Spotting is for safety, not for other people to do your lifts for you. Hire a personal trainer if you want that crap.

 

[Petrie]

Yes, I realize if he helps you with the lift those reps don't "count" as being your own. Perhaps my question earlier about it counting was a bit pointless then, I agree.

I was just referring to Petrie saying that spotting doesn't involve touching the bar. If I ask for a spot, that means I'm going to use that help to get a couple more reps than I could do on my own. I expect them to help with the last few reps. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I use a spotter.

I find it a bit weird people here will use a spotter and tell them to only help them if the bar is stuck on their chest. What's the point then? They're not helping you with the reps in any way then.

They aren't supposed to help you with reps. They're supposed to help you not kill yourself if you go for a PR or something and end up failing on the last rep. That's what a spotter is for.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Yes, I realize if he helps you with the lift those reps don't "count" as being your own. Perhaps my question earlier about it counting was a bit pointless then, I agree.

I was just referring to Petrie saying that spotting doesn't involve touching the bar. If I ask for a spot, that means I'm going to use that help to get a couple more reps than I could do on my own. I expect them to help with the last few reps. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I use a spotter.

I find it a bit weird people here will use a spotter and tell them to only help them if the bar is stuck on their chest. What's the point then? They're not helping you with the reps in any way then.

What you are referring to is "forced reps", not "spotting", FYI. Forced reps can be valuable depending on your goals, but it is not the same as spotting.

 

[Cudder]

wow, okay

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

wow, okay

Don't worry man, we all make mistakes. Just chalk this up to another learning experience like with the whole smith machine thing.

 

[Anton Sugar]

wow, okay

Just trying to help, don't worry about it. It may seem arbitrary now, but proper spotting is absolutely a skill, especially as the weight gets heavier. A spotter should be one less thing to worry about when you're lifting, not one more. If your understanding of a spotter is "help me get the last few reps" and that is not his/her understanding (or vice versa), it can be frustrating and (at worst) dangerous.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Just trying to help, don't worry about it. It may seem arbitrary now, but proper spotting is absolutely a skill, especially as the weight gets heavier. A spotter should be one less thing to worry about when you're lifting, not one more. If your understanding of a spotter is "help me get the last few reps" and that is not his/her understanding (or vice versa), it can be frustrating and (at worst) dangerous.

Yeah, because as you're going for more reps, he's probably trying to guide it to the pins, lol.

Side note, being one of the bigger guys sucks because of this. You're always the one people go to for a spot.

 

[SeanR1221]

Don't worry man, we all make mistakes. Just chalk this up to another learning experience like with the whole smith machine thing.

Yup. Like how I was gripping incorrectly for a year.

 

[agrajag]

I've been doing pushups wrong my whole life.

 

[SeanR1221]

 

[CliqWriter]

Get someone to help you. I usually sit on the bench, put the weights on my knee, and then boost them/lift them with my knee and lie down. Usually someone is behind me helping. Once it's up, its all me.

I do the same thing but I don't trust a random person helping me, and I go to the gym alone.
I've had bad experiences with people spotting me.

I use the momentum from kicking them up off my knees, then I arch my back and press my shoulder blades into the bench. I've never had a spot for DB press, so I've always had to do it myself.

When I do this I get the weights to my chest but everyone seems to make the transfer of lifting them off faster than I do. Just trying to figure out the secret.