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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Draft

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Basic rule to follow: never lock any joints in any exercise? Even with pullups? What about bench press?
Total bullshit. Hyper extension is to be avoided, but every big lift ends with a lockout. Deadlift ends with a lockout, press ends with a lockout, bench press ends with a lockout, squat ends with a lockout, etc.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Milk, nuts (almonds and walnuts are best), eggs, greek yogurt, edamame, cheese, Kashi GoLean cereal and oatmeal, fortified bread are the ones off the top of my head.

Keep in mind, you'll have to eat A LOT if you don't drink a lot of milk.

Damn,I just couldn't handle the fiber contenti Kashi GoLean and it ripped my stomach to shreds every afternoon with bad gas pains. Never again.
 

Draft

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Quick one folks, can you recommend how a non meat eater would get enough protein without resorting to shakes? Thanks
Start eating meat.

Do you realize how many small woodland critters died to get those leafy greens onto your plate? There is no way to eat anything without death. Embrace your place at the top of the food chain.
 

ianp622

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Damn,I just couldn't handle the fiber contenti Kashi GoLean and it ripped my stomach to shreds every afternoon with bad gas pains. Never again.

You gotta work up to it. I once made the mistake of having GoLean with wheat germ on top of it. Once I became comfortable with the GoLean by itself, it was fine though.
 
How long should i stay with the same weight before adding more? Does it vary with different exercises?
It really depends on what lifts you're doing, but I try to add at least 5 lbs. per workout. It will plateau eventually, and that's when iso, drop sets, neg sets, etc. come into play.
 
Start eating meat.

Do you realize how many small woodland critters died to get those leafy greens onto your plate? There is no way to eat anything without death. Embrace your place at the top of the food chain.

It's not so much that I don't like eating things with faces (taste delish) its the difference in my energy levels/general well being that non meaterism brings. Started out dropping the meat due to fiscal reasons (it's called the breadline for a reason, ya know?) but noticed a huge improvement in my mood with a commensurate reduction in my waistline with an overall abundance of energy so I stuck with it.

Now I'm slim and trim I went back to the gym and know I need to find some kind of protein source, I eat fish but there's only so much of that that you can eat per week so I need to add something in the mix in the interim. If it comes down to shakes I was thinking of getting this.
 

Clott

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Total bullshit. Hyper extension is to be avoided, but every big lift ends with a lockout. Deadlift ends with a lockout, press ends with a lockout, bench press ends with a lockout, squat ends with a lockout, etc.

Nope, you should always stop 5% before lockout. Your joints should never take the blunt of the weight.


Edit: if you do lockout on a dead, I wouldn't recommend longer than 1 second.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Knocked another 15 seconds off my run time. I only need 14:31 and I'm at 13:16. I got so into my run today that I knocked my knuckle on the treadmill and bled all over the side of it, but didn't know till I was finished, lol.

1 month of running and I've made some pretty good headway.
 

Decado

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What is everyone's favourite blended low-calorie drinks/meal supplements? I just picked up some natural whey protein powder and plan to buy a blender and am looking for ideas. I've heard frozen bananas are awesome.

I'm sure this has been covered somewhere, but couldn't find a consolidated resource.
 

JB1981

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You gotta work up to it. I once made the mistake of having GoLean with wheat germ on top of it. Once I became comfortable with the GoLean by itself, it was fine though.

Some people are intolerant of grains. Fuck Kashi. I cant eat it either. You can get fiber from other sources anyway (fruits, veggies)
 
It's not so much that I don't like eating things with faces (taste delish) its the difference in my energy levels/general well being that non meaterism brings. Started out dropping the meat due to fiscal reasons (it's called the breadline for a reason, ya know?) but noticed a huge improvement in my mood with a commensurate reduction in my waistline with an overall abundance of energy so I stuck with it.

Now I'm slim and trim I went back to the gym and know I need to find some kind of protein source, I eat fish but there's only so much of that that you can eat per week so I need to add something in the mix in the interim. If it comes down to shakes I was thinking of getting this.
That may be fine if you're just dieting but if you're hitting the gym too you're going to need a solid source of protein. You can do it on veggies but it's hard as hell.

I'm the complete opposite though. I cut out so many carbs and ate more meat and I feel fantastic and energetic and lost almost 70 lbs. Everyone is different though I guess. I'd just reevalute your diet and work some meat in there.
 

deadbeef

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Knocked another 15 seconds off my run time. I only need 14:31 and I'm at 13:16. I got so into my run today that I knocked my knuckle on the treadmill and bled all over the side of it, but didn't know till I was finished, lol.

1 month of running and I've made some pretty good headway.

Do you have to take some sort of test? You might want to see how you do on actual pavement, instead of the treadmill. In my experience, there is a big difference between the two.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Do you have to take some sort of test? You might want to see how you do on actual pavement, instead of the treadmill. In my experience, there is a big difference between the two.

Yeah, it's for a test. I'll be fine. I did the same thing in the Army (remember I used to be a runner), being at 13:16 on a treadmill won't translate to 14:32+ on pavement. I know it will be a little slower, but not significantly slower. The most important part is to establish a pace and understand fatigue.

This is only for a mile and a half anyway, it's not even like it's a big run.
 

OG Kush

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What is everyone's favourite blended low-calorie drinks/meal supplements? I just picked up some natural whey protein powder and plan to buy a blender and am looking for ideas. I've heard frozen bananas are awesome.

I'm sure this has been covered somewhere, but couldn't find a consolidated resource.
low calorie, yet also a meal supplement? how does that work?! anyway a good shake is your whey protein powder, a frozen banana, a few ice cubes, one tablespoon peanut butter and milk. blend it all up. Pretty damn good.
Experiement, search youtube for some good ones. Berries are good in a shake as well.
 
That may be fine if you're just dieting but if you're hitting the gym too you're going to need a solid source of protein. You can do it on veggies but it's hard as hell.

I'm the complete opposite though. I cut out so many carbs and ate more meat and I feel fantastic and energetic and lost almost 70 lbs. Everyone is different though I guess. I'd just reevalute your diet and work some meat in there.

Noted, wouldn't a couple of those shakes per day (22 gram per serving) handle it? What about fish?
 

kylej

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PR on OHP and PR on squats yesterday. only day I do two body parts is Friday. I'm walking around like a sore corpse right now
 

Mr.City

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Basic rule to follow: never lock any joints in any exercise? Even with pullups? What about bench press?

No, that's idiotic and silly. It's a belief in the academic world of exercise science that anything places stress on a joint is bad. If this were the case, no one would be able to get out of bed without their legs collapsing under them like a rotten wicker chair.

Quick one folks, can you recommend how a non meat eater would get enough protein without resorting to shakes? Thanks

By becoming a meat eater. You're setting yourself up for a rough one with no shakes or meat. I suppose there are things like Quinoa, Kale, beans, milk, nuts, and cheese.

I don't know if it's permanent, I'm going to a doctor soon to get it checked out. I hurt it back in October, but when I went to a doctor he told me to let it rest because it didn't seem like anything was broken. Now it's been 8 months and I figure it's time for a second opinion. It hurts at the very left of my left wrist (around the bone). So yeah, not sure if it's permanent but I hope not. It's gotten better and it only hurts if I supinate it and put pressure on it.

I can't do chinups, unless I'm doing them in the hammer position.

Edit: I've been doing a split for a while (chest/tri, legs, back/bi, shoulders), and I've actually seen some pretty good gains on it. Do you guys think it's worth switching back to compound lifts? My gains have been slowing down so I feel like I'm coming up to a plateau and I figure it's time to switch things up.

8 MONTHS? Good lord, and you're worried about your gains?

no, not really counting, I am trying to have a more natural approach to eating properly. I don't have any overweight, but I have a loose belly because life is cruel and I am 34. I just want to eat more consciously.

randomly thinking, I'd eat:

morning: 2 slices of breat with a bit of ham and cheese
Midday: meat, rice and vegetables. or soup instead of one of the complements.
afternoon: cereal or one can of tuna with a bit of tomato and onion, a spoong of mayo to keep my body greased.

is that good or bad?

Life is not cruel, you just eat like a 12 year old child. There's no dinner, and you're eating cereal for lunch. What's going on here? What are your goals?
 
Nope, you should always stop 5% before lockout. Your joints should never take the blunt of the weight.


Edit: if you do lockout on a dead, I wouldn't recommend longer than 1 second.

Real strength comes from strong tendons and ligaments, and to train them you must lockout. If you never train the full range of motion then only the muscle will become strong but the tendons and ligaments will still be weak, and this is more likely to lead to injury if the muscles become much stronger than the tendons or ligaments. This is why partial lockouts are popular assistance exercises in strongman and powerlifting.

The golden rule is to realise that strength in ligaments and tendons are slower to develop than in muscles, and therefore one must be careful not to overstress them too quickly; however, if one takes the time to develop them, it will pay off massively in the long run.

Look at a gymnast doing an ironcross - many gym-goers may acquire the necessary muscular strength, but it is the gymnasts incredibly strong tendons and ligaments at lockout which enable them to perform the manouever.
 
Noted, wouldn't a couple of those shakes per day (22 gram per serving) handle it? What about fish?
fish would be fantastic. Shakes will do it but real food should always be considered first. The difference between how I felt and progressed on my lifts were night and day when I replaced shakes with real food.

I personally eat two cans of tuna a day. 200 calories and 52 grams of solid protein. You can eat other fish, tuna is just the only fish i can stomach (i hate fish). Just get creative. As long as it's not junk food and you get a decent amount of protein youre okay. Your diet will evolve over time as you find what works for you.
 

Decado

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low calorie, yet also a meal supplement? how does that work?! anyway a good shake is your whey protein powder, a frozen banana, a few ice cubes, one tablespoon peanut butter and milk. blend it all up. Pretty damn good.
Experiement, search youtube for some good ones. Berries are good in a shake as well.
Well, maybe used as part of a meal supplement. I guess it depends on what is considered low calorie.

I was thinking of something filling for 400 - 550 calories to replace a smaller dinner meal.
 

MDR1750

Neo Member
Quick one folks, can you recommend how a non meat eater would get enough protein without resorting to shakes? Thanks

dairy products (whey protein, milk, cottage cheese, plain flavoured high protein yogurts. try to get low or fat free versions)
egg whites if you allow them
beans (black, pinto, red kidney)
quinoa
lentils


for any non dairy, non meat protein source it would be a good idea to mix together with different things since they tend to be incomplete proteins by themselves (lots of people mix lentils with rice for example but I have no idea what proportions give you a complete protein per serving).


meat makes life so much easier though. If you are willing to eat egg whites, fish, and dairy then I think it's doable.
 

bro1

Banned
Nope, you should always stop 5% before lockout. Your joints should never take the blunt of the weight.


Edit: if you do lockout on a dead, I wouldn't recommend longer than 1 second.

That is the dumbest thing I have read in a long time. Top of the squat, top of the bench press, top of the OHP, etc.
 

OG Kush

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Well, maybe used as part of a meal supplement. I guess it depends on what is considered low calorie.

I was thinking of something filling for 400 - 550 calories to replace a smaller dinner meal.

Shit, I thought you wrote meal replacement, not supplement. Thats why I thought how can it be low calorie yet replace a whole meal? Even though I wrote supplement in my post as well...
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
To be safe I will only lockout for .98 seconds. Safety first bro

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bro1

Banned
Home gym! Squat rack, bench, pull up bar, dip bars, weight probably ran me $2000. My old gym was $125 a month in the Philly burbs (main line health and fitness)
 

TheOMan

Tagged as I see fit
Just checking in here as I love these threads and my training has been going well. I stopped updating Fitocracy unfortunately, as I got a bit annoyed with the logging of my workouts, wish it was easier somehow. Maybe I'll make an effort to go back to it next week.

My diet has been a little lax, and I still want to lose about 30 lbs over the next 6 months along with getting to about 15% bodyfat, so I definitely have to tighten that up.

Strength goals (lifting heavier and heavier things ;-) ) have been coming along nicely, squats, deadlifts, olympic lifts, etc are all increasing month to month. Sprints and running in general has improved. Ring dips and pull ups still need a lot of work, losing weight will help with that I'm sure.

Hurt my wrist doing a heavy high pull about 3 weeks ago (strain/sprain), and only last Thursday did it feel good enough to get to a 265# power clean. It's still not 100% as there's still some pain, hopefully it doesn't take too much longer. I actually got acupuncture done on it and my knee for the first time, I think it helped quite a bit.

I did go through a few weeks where it seemed my strength was decreasing and I wasn't sure why. I found adding bananas back into my diet and fixing the sleep schedule worked wonders, so for those that mentioned similar issues, that may help.

Quick question for the people with lots of pullups. What do you do for your hands besides chalk/tape? I've been doing this for 2 years and my hands still haven't toughened up enough.
 
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